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irontiger1981
09-21-2008, 09:53 PM
About a year ago i bought some strength increasing wine from shaolin brand. It seems to do its job for getting the blood pumping, but tastes like total crap. Any one very familier with this stuff or different herbal wines?????

GunnedDownAtrocity
09-21-2008, 10:58 PM
i notice that when i dont drink beer for a few days my squat drops. if that helps.

GreenCloudCLF
09-22-2008, 04:07 AM
i notice that when i dont drink beer for a few days my squat drops. if that helps.

I notice if I drink beer before I do squats, I drop a load.

uki
09-22-2008, 05:49 AM
green dragon... crush up a bag of marijuana, put into a bottle of vodka, let sit for a month or so... haven't tried it yet. but thats the recipie. depending on the size of the bottle and the bag, the strength and quality of it is up to you.:D

in siberia they also make a fermented drink using bog berries, caribou milk, and the amanita muscaria mushroom...

SimonM
09-22-2008, 05:57 AM
There are herbal wines that increase testosterone and reduce stress hormones as well as improve liver health. They are common and cheap in China.

So is baijiu mixed with methanol. Exercise caution when drinking so-called health tonics.

irontiger1981
09-22-2008, 06:03 AM
:p
green dragon... crush up a bag of marijuana, put into a bottle of vodka, let sit for a month or so... haven't tried it yet. but thats the recipie. depending on the size of the bottle and the bag, the strength and quality of it is up to you.:D

in siberia they also make a fermented drink using bog berries, caribou milk, and the amanita muscaria mushroom...

are you suggesting i buy an illegal substance?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? no j/k i use marijuana daily to rlax after class and meditate

TenTigers
09-22-2008, 06:05 AM
Tiger-bone wine (no longer made with Tiger-or so I'm told) is good for pre-trauma type training.
Triple snake wine is good for ch'i-gung.
Ng Ga Pei (the brand with the chicken on the box) is good for iron palm, body, forearm (it contains some of the herbs used in dit da jow)
Absinthe is good for creativity
Red wine is good for your heart and immune system
Tien Chut in wine, or hot water with honey is great post trauma as well

Mas Judt
09-22-2008, 06:24 AM
"Absinthe is good for creativity?"

Really? Where did you hear that load of sh!t? I make my living doing creative work, and I've tried authentic absinthe. Only folks who aren't creative think the loss of inhibition from inebriation is somehow a 'creative' thing.

monji112000
09-22-2008, 06:34 AM
About a year ago i bought some strength increasing wine from shaolin brand. It seems to do its job for getting the blood pumping, but tastes like total crap. Any one very familier with this stuff or different herbal wines?????
I believe you are referring to this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness
I'v been drinking it my whole life. I can remmber being a little kid and having Mano. I was forced to drink a bottle once in the morning and once at night.

Very good before or after a workout.

another good one is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass

TenTigers
09-22-2008, 06:59 AM
True absinthe contains grande wormwood, the active ingredient being thujone, which is said to be a mental stimlulant. Combined the "loss of inhibition" and of course this does not mean an induced stupor, this "lucid drunkedness" can provide just enough release for some. Many of these folks who aren't creative had names like, Oscar Wilde, Ernest Hemmingway, Modigliani, Toulouse Lautrec,Pablo Picasso, Vincent Van Gogh,Manet,Degas, etc.

although my addition of absinthe to the list was somewhat tongue in cheek, your reaction reveals that you may not be quite as creative as you claim.
Loosen up a bit. Creativity is not simply the ability to draw, paint, or play an instrument. That is a technician. Creativity is the ability to see the unseen, to hear the unheard, and to think outside the box. To see things not only as they are, but how they could be. To be able to shift your perspective.
(out of curiosity, are you an art director?:p)

Lama Pai Sifu
09-22-2008, 07:02 AM
Many of these folks who aren't creative had names like, Oscar Wilde, Ernest Hemmingway, Modigliani, Toulouse Lautrec,Pablo Picasso, Vincent Van Gogh,Manet,Degas, etc.


Pffsst. Those guys were such losers, all old and famous and ****.

TenTigers
09-22-2008, 07:04 AM
-actually, I've seen your work, and enjoyed it emencely.
I like some of the angles you "shoot from."

TenTigers
09-22-2008, 07:05 AM
of course, there's Aliester Crowley as well.
oops.

Raipizo
06-29-2009, 08:27 PM
Lol i prefer not to do things like drinking and drugs :P shaolin morals?

TenTigers
06-30-2009, 07:09 AM
Lol i prefer not to do things like drinking and drugs :P shaolin morals?
hard to say-I've heard some of these,"Monks" are drinking, womanizing, and injesting herbs other than what is found in their dit da jow.:rolleyes:

Raipizo
06-30-2009, 11:55 AM
tsk tsk shame on them! XD they should be setting an example for other martial artists not drugs and alcohol.

foster
07-15-2009, 01:16 AM
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The Karate of a person who is too serious has no flavor.”

-Choki Motobu

GeneChing
05-07-2015, 09:11 AM
A binge drinking contest to promote your booze? Who thought that brilliant idea up?

This is entirely different from our Drunken-Style-Championship (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?68489-Drunken-Style-Championship).




Man dies after binge-drinking contest, organizers to compensate (http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2015-05/05/content_20628567.htm)
Updated: 2015-05-05 17:36
(Xinhua)

ZHENGZHOU - The organizers of an alcohol drinking contest in Central China's Henan province on Tuesday were ordered to pay compensation of over 70,000 US dollars after one participant died.

Wang Qiang took part in the contest in Luoyang city in July with a friend. Both men reportedly said they "felt weird" after the competitive binge-drinking session.

The other man regained consciousness after medical attention, however, Wang was not so lucky. The cause of death was attributed to alcohol poisoning.

Wang's family filed a lawsuit against the organizers of the event: the Henan Alcohol Association, the Henan Alcohol Association Luoyang Office and Luoyang Siyue Trade Co. Ltd., for their active role in Wang's death.

The Laocheng district court of Luoyang ruled that the organizers should pay 447,642.36 yuan to the family.

The defendants did not say whether they will appeal.

Mor Sao
05-07-2015, 10:23 AM
What no reference to Chang Bai Ginseng infused single malt?

herb ox
05-08-2015, 10:31 AM
"Felt weird" after binge drinking eh? I thought that's why it was done to begin with! :D

herb ox

GeneChing
07-07-2015, 10:40 AM
I had a similar situation going into Beijing but instead of chugging it, I had to place it in a briefcase I bought quickly at the airport gift store and check it as luggage. I wrote about that in Shaolin Trips - Episode Two (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=468).



What to do with expensive alcohol before boarding a flight? Why, chug it, of course! (http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/07/03/what-to-do-with-expensive-alcohol-before-boarding-a-flight-why-chug-it-of-course/)

Krista Rogers
5 days ago

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What would you do if you were about to catch a flight but were then told that you couldn’t bring a bottle of alcohol worth approximately 8,000-yuan (US$1,290) onto the plane? Hands up if you’d down it in a matter of minutes!

On June 20, a man at the Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport in southeast China was stopped as he was about to board his plane. The reason? Airport officials had discovered a cute tiger ornament in his possession that had an unscrewable head, which subsequently revealed the animal to be full of a high-grade, revitalizing alcohol.

Now, it might seem strange to seasoned travelers that anyone could commit such a rookie mistake as trying to bring a large quantity of liquid in with their carry-on luggage onto the plane. However, it just so happens that June 20 of this year marked the traditional Duanwu Festival, otherwise known as the Dragon Boat Festival, throughout parts of China. Many people were traveling to be with relatives around that time, including complete airport newbies, so airport security had to deal with an unusually high number of these types of incidents over the past few weeks.

With hardly any time left before the plane’s departure to dash off and store it in his checked luggage, what was the man to do? Rather than dump the precious, 8,000-yuan ($1,290) bottle of liquid down the drain, he began chugging it in turns with his younger brother, who also happened to be a fellow passenger on the flight:

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▼ You go, little bro!

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▼ The tiger-shaped vessel, which could easily be mistaken for a decoration

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Despite warnings from the airport staff that the brothers wouldn’t be allowed on the plane if they were completely drunk, we have to guess that they made it to their final destination safely, although with a bit lighter luggage in tow.

Hopefully this tale will remind everyone to stay well aware of safety regulations before traveling, so that no one else finds themselves in the middle of an impromptu Oktoberfest at the airport like these guys did!

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GeneChing
11-09-2018, 11:08 AM
Centuries-old alcohol discovered in China (https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ancient-wine-found-china-henan-province/index.html?utm_content=2018-11-08T06%3A01%3A23&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_term=link)
Lilit Marcus, CNN • Published 7th November 2018

(CNN) — Bottoms up!
Chinese archaeologists have uncovered a 2,000-year-old bronze pot that contains an alcoholic liquid believed to be wine.
The discovery occurred on November 6 in China's Henan province, west of Shanghai.
Shi Jiazhen, who is head of the Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology in the province's city of Luoyang, tells China's Xinhua news agency that "there are 3.5 liters of the liquid in the color of transparent yellow. It smells like wine."
The maybe-wine was found as part of an excavation of a Western Han Dynasty-era tomb, along with artifacts made from clay and bronze.
Wine has long played in a role in other important archeological digs.
Shards of pottery dating from the Neolithic era (6000-5800 BCE) marked with remnants of grapes were unearthed in the country of Georgia in 2017. They contain some hints about the origin of winemaking there, nearly a full millennium ahead of when historians had previously believed the practice began.
The pottery had traces of tartaric acid, which is what gives wine its tartness.
Meanwhile, the island nation of Cyprus also holds claim to another historical wine accomplishment: Its Commanderia dessert wine is believed to be the oldest named wine in the world.
Other than the as-yet-unnamed liquid, the other major discovery in the Henan province archeological dig this week was a large bronze lamp in the shape of a goose.
Luoyang is rich with historical significance. Its location at the confluence of the Yellow and Luo rivers makes it an important center for trading. It has been the capital of many dynasties, including the Western Jin, Northern Wei and Later Tang.
The city is home to the Shaolin Temple (sometimes referred to as the Shaolin Monastery), which is famed for its connection to kung fu, and the Longmen Grottoes Buddhist rock carvings, both of which are UNESCO World Heritage sites.

THREADS
my kung fu booze (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?52025-my-kung-fu-booze)
Luoyang (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?39381-Luoyang-is-true-source-of-Henan-Internal-MAs)

GeneChing
03-16-2022, 08:15 AM
FILED UNDER: A.M. INTEL
Bay Area Authorities on the Hunt for Woman Who Stole $4K Bottle of Cognac From a Restaurant (https://sf.eater.com/2022/3/15/22979467/san-jose-police-woman-stole-expensive-cognac)

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Wonder if she's drunk the evidence yet...

GeneChing
03-17-2022, 09:08 AM
Mom of six ‘very sorry’ she walked out of CA restaurant with $4,000 bottle of liquor (https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article259454904.html)
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Play VideoDuration -:- Video shows woman stealing $4,000 bottle of liquor from restaurant bar The Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office video shows a suspect it said took a bottle of cognac worth $4,000 from the bar of a restaurant in San Jose on March 8, 2022.
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Still pondering a $4K bottle. How much is that per shot?

GeneChing
11-29-2022, 02:41 PM
Johnnie Walker Unveils 2022 Lunar New Year Bottle (https://beveragedynamics.com/2022/11/28/johnnie-walker-2022-lunar-new-year-bottle-whisky-scotch/)
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2023-Year-of-the-Rabbit (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?72390-2023-Year-of-the-Rabbit)
my-kung-fu-booze (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?52025-my-kung-fu-booze)

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01-19-2023, 10:21 AM
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GeneChing
10-25-2023, 08:18 AM
STYLISH
https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/vera-wang-says-vodka-and-mcdonalds-keep-her-looking-young/
By Kira Gunn Barrett October 23, 2023

https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Vera-Wang-Credits-A-Surprising-Mix-of-McDonalds-Vodka-and-Dunkin-Donuts-For-Maintaining-Her-Youth1.jpg?w=1600&quality=86&strip=all
Vera Wang Gilbert Carrasquillo/FilmMagic

Fans have long wondered how on earth Vera Wang manages to look so youthful. Well, the secret’s out — and the answer is probably not what you would have guessed.

While attending the DKMS gala on Thursday, October 19, Wang, 74, told Page Six that she doesn’t have many restrictions on her diet. “I do eat McDonald’s, absolutely,” she said, adding, “I order it every day, like two weeks on it, and then I’ll change.”

But Wang doesn’t just limit herself to McDonald’s. She’s also a fan of Dunkin’ Donuts. “I like the cream-filled, sugar-coated donut,” she told the outlet. “It’s like a jelly donut, but it’s cream inside, vanilla cream. I like the pink with sprinkles, too.”

In the same interview with Page Six, Wang said she believes that working hard also helps her to feel young. “Basically, I’ve worked my whole life, so it’s really been about work. I think work keeps you young and stimulated,” she said, continuing, “I work very long hours, I’ve raised two daughters. I think keeping busy is the best antidote [for] good health.”

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Courtesy of Vera Wang/Instagram

In 2020, Wang shocked fans when she posted an Instagram photo of herself posing in an orange sports bra and white denim shorts. At the time, she was 70 years old, although readers would be forgiven for mistaking the designer for decades younger.

Fans flocked to the comments to express their awe at her youthful appearance. One commenter wrote, “Impossible, it is biologically impossible not to have a single wrinkle and loose skin after seventy. Don’t make fools of us – or are you a Martian?????😂”

https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Vera-Wang-Credits-A-Surprising-Mix-of-McDonalds-Vodka-and-Dunkin-Donuts-For-Maintaining-Her-Youth3.jpg?w=1200&quality=86&strip=all
Courtesy of Vera Wang/Instagram

In an interview with Elle published on March 16, the designer said that she isn’t seeking out approval for her appearance. “I’m very flattered that people think I’ve aged well, but it was never my goal,” Wang said. “I drink vodka, I sleep, I avoid the sun. But I like to work. I don’t want to be pigeonholed.”

Later in the interview, Wang said that she feels that the public’s focus on her looks “brings up the issue of ageism.” She added, “ I was never really obsessed with aging. I can’t speak for younger generations, but things that exist now did not exist 50 or 60 years ago. There was no such thing as Botox.”

She has her own line of vodka (https://chopinvodka.com/vodkas/)...
Fast-Food-Nastiness (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?65208-Fast-Food-Nastiness)
my-kung-fu-booze (https://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?52025-my-kung-fu-booze)

GeneChing
12-12-2023, 10:24 AM
This New Doritos Liquor Is More Than Just a Cheesy Gimmick (https://www.foodandwine.com/doritos-flavored-liquor-taste-8414617#:~:text=In%20a%20most%20unconventional%20c rossover,ever%20smelled%20or%20tasted%20before.)
We taste-tested it for you.

By Brad Japhe Published on December 12, 2023

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PHOTO: COURTESY OF EMPIRICAL

Nacho Cheese Doritos have been a staple of the snack food aisle for nearly half a century. Now, they’re headed to the liquor shelf.

In a most unconventional crossover, the iconic tortilla chip brand has partnered with Empirical Spirits to release an 84-proof clear liquor that actually smells and tastes like the real thing, minus the signature crunch — thankfully. Which is to say, it’s unlike any alcohol you’ve ever smelled or tasted before. And we don’t mean that in a bad way.

Ensuring the integrity of the new creation is Lars Williams. The former chef and self-avowed flavor expert spent time at Noma before breaking off to co-found Empirical in 2017. Since then, he’s steered the company toward “uncategorized” spirits. This grants him and his team the freedom to experiment without conforming to the well-defined parameters of, say, a gin, a rum, or a whisky.

It’s precisely this sort of unrestrained attitude that led to the serendipitous development of a Doritos-flavored booze.

“In Empirical’s very early days in Copenhagen, a team member returned from lunch with a sandwich and a bag of Doritos,” Williams recalls of the origin story. “Curiosity led me to turn this snack into a spirit. Upon tasting it, the result was amazing, and we burst into laughter. We shared it with friends, especially chefs. We would just give them a little glass without telling them what it was. The sheer joy in their face was amazing to watch.”

Indeed, one sniff of the spirit is enough to reveal its anchor ingredient. The bouquet is brimming with the unmistakable tang of cheese dust. But in the sip, it’s all about cornier elements. It leaves your palate with a drying note, akin to what accumulates on your tongue after you’ve crushed a sizable bag of corn chips. In other words, it’s maybe more Fritos than Doritos.

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COURTESY OF EMPIRICAL

“My goal was to recreate the entire experience of opening a bag of Doritos, getting that signature aroma, followed by its flavor dance across the palate with its unmistakable savory, cheesy, and umami notes,” adds Williams.

To get there, he started with a base of distilled beer — pilsner malt, to be precise. The Doritos were then introduced and allowed to infuse in the liquid, under exacting time and temperature. Vacuum distillation, which operates at lower temperatures than traditional distillation, was used to safeguard flavors collected during maceration. Ultimately, you can think of the product as a nacho cheese-flavored vodka.

The folks at PepsiCo, Doritos’ parent company, were suitably impressed by the mashup. It was Empirical who approached them with the idea of the collaboration. Despite the unlikely commingling of Noma-pedigreed personnel with America’s most popular snack chip, the pairing makes perfect sense when you realize that high-end chefs have a well-known penchant for off-shift junk food.

The release will arrive on shelves next month wearing a cost closer to that of caviar. The limited edition bottle of Empirical x Doritos Nacho Cheese Spirit is set to retail at $65 — nearly twice the average sum of super premium vodkas. The ability to show up at a Super Bowl party offering shots of Doritos, however, is surely priceless. Just don’t hold your breath for a Cool Ranch follow-up. Williams tried that and wasn’t happy with the results. Perhaps some Funyuns rum, instead?

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