No more limits

[sanjuro_ronin]

Maybe it was the election of a Black Man as the President-Elect of the US.
Maybe it was watching Holograms on CNN.
Maybe it was Michale Phelps and Bolt in the Olympics.

As of late I have decide to re-evaluate what I view as "limits".

When I was younger I didn't really believe in human limits, the fire of youth and all that.
I recall when I was a teenager and running the 100 how I was told that I was too short for it and then winning it with a time of 10:68.
Turing down an invitation to run for Portugal to play soccer !
I recall being told I was too small for the military and not only acing the PT tests but qualifying as a sniper AND airborne ( even though I am scared of heights).

As I got older it seemed that I was believing more about limits than I used to.
I chalked it up to being a realist.
IN the MA, even more so.

I fought kyokushin with no weight classes, sometimes fighting guys that were almost a foot taller and 100lbs heavier, sure I lost most but won quite a few too,
Never looked at it as being impossible, never saw sizing mattering more than it did.

SO what changed?
When did I start believing what I was being told over what I had direct experience in?

[SimonM]

People keep talking about these CNN holograms... I was watching CNN a bit last night and didn't see anything that blew my mind...

[sanjuro_ronin]

People keep talking about these CNN holograms... I was watching CNN a bit last night and didn't see anything that blew my mind...

Dude, it was a hologram.
Ever seen one before? a real one?

[SPJ]

As a country of immigrants from all continents, europe, africa, asia, middle east etc.

The demographic is always shifting.

President elect representing many things but mainly the minority.

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some saw it as an event that took too long to be realized.

some saw it as an event that is "first" ever.

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some saw it as another mile's stone that a minority may achieve.

Yes. We may have a woman president someday. Look at Germany and other country, a woman may be the chancelor or leader of a country.

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:D;)

[sanjuro_ronin]

I remember when the UFC first started off and while Royce's victories were not a surprise to me, we had many a discussion on how to "defeat grappling" and the dreaded "anti-grappling".
I recall one of my MA instructors simple saying, "hard to grapple when you are getting punched in the face".
We all laughed but didn't think much of it, we KNEW the LIMITS of striking VS the dreaded grapple.
Then, all of a sudden, those that "didn't know" the limits of striking where countering the ground work with, *gasp* striking, ie: the ground and pound.

We all KNEW the limits of countering the shoot or tackle with the "dreaded knee strike", but then' all of a sudden, the people that "didn't know" those "limits" where stopping the shoot and tackle with, *gasp* a knee strike ! and a flying one at that !!

:eek:

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFJ0CChF8_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD939Q6LxRg&feature=related

:)

[SimonM]

Dude, it was a hologram.
Ever seen one before? a real one?

If you can direct me to what I should have been looking at... because the technology I kept seeing on CNN was just a touch-screen interface on that display of theirs.

[sanjuro_ronin]

If you can direct me to what I should have been looking at... because the technology I kept seeing on CNN was just a touch-screen interface on that display of theirs.

You must have missed it then, try the cnn website

[TenTigers]

we learn to set limitations from our enviornment. When a baby is born, everything is taken care of, everything you did was met with approval-even your first poop.
By the time a child is four, he has heard the word,"No," over 100,000 times.
"No you can't" is something that has been drilled into a child's brain continuously.
Our parents also teach us their fears, and their hatred. When a child gets to kindergarten and elementary school, he interacts with other children, and then they get to share each others' parents fears and hatreds. Social groups are formed from people sharing common interests and values. Your entire life, you are told what you cannot do. After awhile, you start to believe it. As you get older, perhaps you didn't reach certain goals-or reach them at a time in your life that society and peers dictated.
learn to use the word,"Yet."
Instead of saying "I can't do this," say "I can't do this yet."
There is a story about a guy in his fifties who wanted to go to medical school.
His friends said,"You're in your fifties, now, when you come out of medical school, you'll be sixty."
He replied,"I'm going to be sixty, anyway!"
He went to med school, and now he is a doctor, in his sixties.
"Sixty is the new fifty!"
remember,
"If you think you can, or if you think you can't,
you're probably right."
Too many people allow society, peer pressure, enviornment, etc to allow them to set limitations on themselves.
in my school, we have an expression-corny, but it rings true:
"We don't set limitations. We set goals and destinations"

[sanjuro_ronin]

we learn to set limitations from our enviornment. When a baby is born, everything is taken care of, everything you did was met with approval-even your first poop.
By the time a child is four, he has heard the word,"No," over 100,000 times.
"No you can't" is something that has been drilled into a child's brain continuously.
Our parents also teach us their fears, and their hatred. When a child gets to kindergarten and elementary school, he interacts with other children, and then they get to share each others' parents fears and hatreds. Social groups are formed from people sharing common interests and values. Your entire life, you are told what you cannot do. After awhile, you start to believe it. As you get older, perhaps you didn't reach certain goals-or reach them at a time in your life that society and peers dictated.
learn to use the word,"Yet."
Instead of saying "I can't do this," say "I can't do this yet."
There is a story about a guy in his fifties who wanted to go to medical school.
His friends said,"You're in your fifties, now, when you come out of medical school, you'll be sixty."
He replied,"I'm going to be sixty, anyway!"
He went to med school, and now he is a doctor, in his sixties.
"Sixty is the new fifty!"
remember,
"If you think you can, or if you think you can't,
you're probably right."
Too many people allow society, peer pressure, enviornment, etc to allow them to set limitations on themselves.
in my school, we have an expression-corny, but it rings true:
"We don't set limitations. We set goals and destinations"

Excellent, well said.

[SimonM]

I'm going back to school in September. Want my masters degree... international relations. If these wars start to wind down (and if the world wants to avoid more wars) diplomats will be important.

[taai gihk yahn]

SO what changed?
When did I start believing what I was being told over what I had direct experience in?
probably the day before you became a Glorified Kickboxer...


By the time a child is four, he has heard the word,"No," over 100,000 times.
Instead of saying "I can't do this," say "I can't do this yet."
I agree; I have very few "rules" doing PT w/kids - one of them is that no one is ever allowed to say "I can't" - they can say "this is hard", "this is difficult", "this is challenging", "I need help w/this" etc. (and when they say that, I usually reply "I agree!" and smile...); I can't is simply the verbal manifestation of capitulation - but often, they are just on the brink of getting whatever it is we are working on! so I concertedly route that out whenever I encounter it

also, I almost never tell a kid what not to do: for example "don't swing your arms around when walking in the hallway" - according to cognitive behavioral research, the brain "hears" the action "swing your arms out to the sides" and then hears the "don't" which it has to superimpose over it; also, it doesn't actually tell the kid what one does want them to do! so much better to say "keep your arms down at your sides" - try this for a day and see if one can notice how often one tells someone what don't one doesn't want versus what one does - one might notice how hard it is to actually articulate the the latter in certain instances - and if one can't even do that, how can one expect a kid to know what one wants?! (it took me about 6 months of concentrated will to change this pattern in myself, and every now and again I still slip up...);

[naja]

Dude, it was a hologram.
Ever seen one before? a real one?

I've not seen the ones on CNN, but this was on the IT "must see" list a while back.

Cisco Telepresence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfNC_x0VvE)

I remember watching it and thinking "geez, I don't want to do networking my whole life!" I guess I'm burned out on the tech already.

[Hebrew Hammer]

All I can say, is that I'm relieved and hopefully we've turned the corner on all this racial BS, in our society...I'm with you, I like to challenge my limits, test them, and rage against the machine...not that its got me anywhere but I'm very much for the man/woman who challenges the status quo, the one who defeats bureaucracy, overcomes the nay sayers, and have respect for the mavericks.

[SPJ]

For most people, age is the limit

1. when you are too young, you are not able to do so and so.

2. when you are young, you may be able to achieve something.

3. when you are old, you are not able to do so and so.

for most people, we peak at 18 or 20 physically.

;)

[冠木侍]

People keep talking about these CNN holograms... I was watching CNN a bit last night and didn't see anything that blew my mind...

You missed it mate. It caught the one where Anderson Cooper was talking to Will I. Am. and I had never seen anything like that before.


Dude, it was a hologram.
Ever seen one before? a real one?

Not until election night.

[sanjuro_ronin]

probably the day before you became a Glorified Kickboxer...

;

LOL !
Probably !
:D



SPJ For most people, age is the limit

1. when you are too young, you are not able to do so and so.

2. when you are young, you may be able to achieve something.

3. when you are old, you are not able to do so and so.

for most people, we peak at 18 or 20 physically.



Age is a factor, no doubt, but our bodies tend to peak at certain levels for certain physical activites.
Speed tends to peak in the Mid 20's
Strength in the early 30's
Endurance in the 30's too I think.
Flexability in the early 20's

The key is how to HOLD on to those peaks for as long as you can or at least, slow down the downward trend.

[TenTigers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUvjXQHt6QQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcZMXgpKh4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpLKQm3vfM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pwhytj2cQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=96BekJxApsA

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUvjXQHt6QQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcZMXgpKh4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpLKQm3vfM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pwhytj2cQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=96BekJxApsA

Granny !?!?!?!?
My eyes !!!
The horror !!

[TenTigers]

just makin sure you were payin attention.:p

[SimonM]

Not exactly a hologram... yet. (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/11/05/tech-holograms.html?ref=rss)

[David Jamieson]

yeah, there's a huge difference between a real hologram and a green screen surround image overlaid onto the main feed to make it appear as if people are talking to something other than air with a floor mark under it. lol

cnn is lame for calling it a hologram, it isn't and it isn't even really related to actual concepts and theory surrounding hologram technology which is no where near the dev cycle yet.

but then, cnn is lame about a lot of things.

[Lucas]

thats not even kinda a hologram, its different technology.

[sanjuro_ronin]

CNN:
To quote Sean Connery:
Suck it, suck it long and suck it hard

:mad:

[diego]

If you look at some of the southern forms the young masters are fit and highly mobile doing tornado kicks into sweeps all day...but when you see the grandmasters of the style they are slim and pretty swift for their age. When is the limit of kung fu?. You achieve your black belt and you can jump kick . You start teaching black belts and all of a sudden you are old and can only front kick. What's the point? we don't jump kick in real fights...a fight in junior high is gonna be the same as a fight in ufc, a few punches a trip a stomp and a head lock, maybe pull the guys arm off or break his toes...fighting is simple as **** kung fu is complex as ****...why?.

I think kung fu doesn't teach you how to fight, only getting punched in the head teaches you to fight, i think it just helps you fight better, but what are the limits?.

Any of you guys have old sifu who are going through that stage right now where the tornado kick spinning crescent gets streamlined to a flying knee for ease and soon will just be a hopping front kick?.

I mean for real BS CLF clips impress me the most on the net, their black belts look fit as faq...the video's of the gm old timers make me think in a real fight those old timers could fight like a ufc guy if they had a dagger in their hands being they are slim and some what mobile...kung fu doesn't teach you to fight, it teaches you to fight better. I mean shamrock got lumped out by that young guy years ago so ufc limits die around age 45...what's up with 70 year old gf gm's...what are their limits against a crackhead stick up kid?

[naja]

CNN:
To quote Sean Connery:
Suck it, suck it long and suck it hard

:mad:

Here you go...same link I posted before. More of what you're looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfNC_x0VvE

[uki]

in a freewill universe... all things are possible. limitation negates freedom.

[sanjuro_ronin]

To NOT be concsious of our limits is, well, suicide.
We become that kiaijutsu master that gets beat up by some MMA nobody.

We must understand the limits that we do have, not all of us can break the 10 second mark in the 100 meters, nor can we all us of deal with a real violent situation.

Nevertheless, I want to discuss our "self imposed" limits, the limits we find ourselves doing, taking about , based on what we hear or are told, are our limits.

[monji112000]

Dude, it was a hologram.
Ever seen one before? a real one?

was it a hologram? or was it just superimposed for the viewers to see? I really doubt it was a star treck style hologram... it looked like crap anyway... pretty stupid if you asked me. :rolleyes: but what do i know?? the cisco stuff isn't that new.. and its not that cool looking in real life.

[SimonM]

That was resolved. It wasn't a hologram.

[uki]

thought you'd appreciate this... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/31/60minutes/main4560940.shtml and this http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/10/air-forces-amne.html
now thats stretching the imaginations of possibility... just imagine what we don't hear or read about.

[Liddel]

People keep talking about these CNN holograms... I was watching CNN a bit last night and didn't see anything that blew my mind...

It was no hologram, it was a cheap reverse chroma key commonly know as a green screen, similar tech to cgi composite type stuff you see in the movies except its overlaid live.

Tech we've had since the early 70's.

Some john woo stalker wannabe probably called it that for wow factor LOL

Funny thing is they probably added a degraded effect to make it look more 'holographic'.

DREW

[sanjuro_ronin]

Kind of focusing on the dead bark instead of the whole tree, aren't guys?

[SimonM]

That's because the amnesia raygun shooting cyborgs erased my memory of what this thread was supposed to be about. ;)

[sanjuro_ronin]

That's because the amnesia raygun shooting cyborgs erased my memory of what this thread was supposed to be about. ;)

Here, let me restore your memory:

[SimonM]

Rotflmfao

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