Jamieson! Your attitude annoys me

[Kansuke]

So far I've come across, "Americans should know what I assume none of them know so they can become enlightened like me," and "Go, you Americans, and travel: go now and open your eyes! Don't just stay at 5-star hotels either!" and super-helpful advice to "look up" such arcane mysteries as some of the most famous people and books of history so we can all work towards becoming as worldly and smart as he is.


Instead of making note of this in dozens of separate threads I thought I'd just say right here: **** off.


That is all.

[BoulderDawg]

Isn't it time this guy went Bye Bye?:D

[Kansuke]

Isn't it time this guy went Bye Bye?:D



But you ****ting up a martial arts forum with hundreds of pages of your whacky political views is ok?

[Yum Cha]

Jamieson, looks like that young'un calling you out...

[golden arhat]

Instead of making note of this in dozens of separate threads I thought I'd just say right here: **** off.


That is all.

this made me LOL

just because i like swearing, i quite enjoy DJ's posts

[EarthDragon]

why dont we all just put this (kan of suke yaki) guy on the ignore list.. thay way when he posts you dont have to read the stupid $hit he says....worked for me...

[EarthDragon]

DJ, LOL your the best!

[Kansuke]

Looks like EarthDragon still has English grammar on his ignore list as well.

[Kansuke]

so bitter. who hurt you so badly?


Oh, *sob* you're right! One time *keep it together, keep it together...* there was this teacher *sob* who told me to capitalize the first word of a sentence! Oh, the trauma!

[BoulderDawg]

Kansuke is a kid........at least I surely hope so. I would hate to think an adult would write stuff like this.

[IronWeasel]

so bitter. who hurt you so badly?




Lol!

Hug it out, fellas...:o

[Drake]

don't confuse smarmy and aloof with enlightened, and you'll be fine. :D

[Kansuke]

Kansuke is a kid........at least I surely hope so. I would hate to think an adult would write stuff like this.



Even worse would be someone ****ting up the forum with 100 pages of idiotic political nonsense.

[Kansuke]

don't confuse smarmy and aloof with enlightened, and you'll be fine. :D




Ah, maybe that's where the confusion lies.

[EarthDragon]

as I have this dirt merchant on my ignore list and can only read what he said through others posts........ should we just have the moderators ban him?

[Drake]

as I have this dirt merchant on my ignore list and can only read what he said through others posts........ should we just have the moderators ban him?

On the grounds that you don't like him?

[EarthDragon]

actually no its nothing personal, he does it to everybody. I dont even know him but every single post he has is disruptive, immature, slander, disrespect etc etc. I went back to read his last 25 posts and all they do is pick fights insult people, act like a 12 year old going through puberty.... He has never conrtibuted anything postitve to the baord so fuk em!The board really donest need people like this so I am having his IP address checked to get his real name and putting a ban request on him...

[lkfmdc]

every single post he has is disruptive, immature, slander, disrespect etc etc.
I went back to read his last 25 posts and all they do is pick fights insult people, act like a 12 year old going through puberty....



you just described your best buddy "hardwork" there :rolleyes:

[Kansuke]

should we just have the moderators ban him?


Wow, you're a very influential fella. :rolleyes:

[AJM]

So far I've come across, "Americans should know what I assume none of them know so they can become enlightened like me," and "Go, you Americans, and travel: go now and open your eyes! Don't just stay at 5-star hotels either!" and super-helpful advice to "look up" such arcane mysteries as some of the most famous people and books of history so we can all work towards becoming as worldly and smart as he is.


Instead of making note of this in dozens of separate threads I thought I'd just say right here: **** off.


That is all.

Roll it in a tube and shove it.

[Drake]

Problem is, ALL of you guys argue more than contribute. I don't even contribute. I just interject. Maybe I should be banned too? :eek:

[Kansuke]

Roll it in a tube and shove it.


Where you from, champ?

[EarthDragon]

actually Ross,
hardwork's posts are no where near this guys. I have read some of hardworks posts and at least he is interested in MA. kansuckit is just a troll. none of his posts talk about, lends advice or furthers other understanding of MA they are all just crap and insults. I dont find this with hardwork.

Drake on the contratry I always help, contribute and lend my understanding to others.. Im a teacher by nature so its what I do. and no i dont think you shouyld be banned. but seriously before you make a judgment click on thsi guys stats and check his last 5 posts he is on every thread calling people names, being billegerant (sp?) and down right rude to everyone....

[Drake]

actually Ross,
hardwork's posts are no where near this guys. I have read some of hardworks posts and at least he is interested in MA. kansuckit is just a troll. none of his posts talk about, lends advice or furthers other understanding of MA they are all just crap and insults. I dont find this with hardwork.

Drake on the contratry I always help, contribute and lend my understanding to others.. Im a teacher by nature so its what I do. and no i dont think you shouyld be banned. but seriously before you make a judgment click on thsi guys stats and check his last 5 posts he is on every thread calling people names, being billegerant (sp?) and down right rude to everyone....

Now, I'm not for or against the fella, but while you are right, most of his arguments seem to be confined in maybe three or four threads. I didn't take the time to read the threads themselves, but it does look like he's going back and forth with someone. It takes two to tango.

[EarthDragon]

Drake,
like I said you need to just go back and read the things this guys posts not the whole thread just click on his name and read his last 10 posts. They are shots at everyone. I realize if it were just 2 guys bantering back and forth that would be different but in all 202 posts there is nothing but insults, name calling, ridicuous stements, things that are not concurrent with the, thread topic and downright offensive and rude. He has never posts anything to be on subject without talking smak about them. We really dont have time for this and people shoud' nt have to read it. I just think we need to clean it up a little thats all.

[golden arhat]

hw isnt exactly polite

and he certainly doesnt help at all as far as the topic of MA is concerned he doesnt further understanding

[EarthDragon]

I'm not sticking up for HW .....I dont know him, but as a neutral person I did go back and read both of thier last 20 posts and while HW is argumentitiave and can be rude as well, his posts are regaurding MA.

kansuke's posts are just insults and nonsense. But I am no longer a moderator so I cannot make the call.

[MasterKiller]

I'm not sticking up for HW .....I dont know him, but as a neutral person I did go back and read both of thier last 20 posts and while HW is argumentitiave and can be rude as well, his posts are regaurding MA.

kansuke's posts are just insults and nonsense. But I am no longer a moderator so I cannot make the call.

Kansuke is the poster formerly known as unkokusai. He generally only offers martially-related quips and retorts when someone dares to question the effectiveness of wrestling or grappling, and even then he usually just resorts to ad hominem attacks.

It's sadly ironic that he is complaining about DJ's political posts when most of his own posts are on political threads.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Seriously, does anyone really care ??

[jow yeroc]

negative, ghostrider...

[lkfmdc]

Seriously, does anyone really care ??

I just find it amusing that he attacks unko/kuko/whatever-cocopops for exactly the same things that "hardwork" does/is but defends his little kung fu buddy :rolleyes:

[wetwonder]

Seriously, does anyone really care ??

Yes, that is the right question.

Whatever Kansuke's behavior, it evidently does not cross the line drawn by the moderators of this forum. I've been in other forums, where he would have been suspended promptly for his posts. I'm not saying that the moderators don't care, but rather that this forum is pretty tolerant of these types of posts. So since there is no authority to stop him, there's nothing that can be done.

[EarthDragon]

David,
dont go there.. I dont defend anyone out here. I dont even know hardwork.

I dont give a fcuk if they both got banned I am just trying saying my peace. you say your peace all the time..... can others do the same? I know you think the board was desgined just for you but thier are others on here that like to voice opinons just as much as you do.

You dont have to attack everyone that disgrees with you do you?

[bawang]

does anyone want to buy my very nice brush five dollaronly it cleans sand from vagina very good

[lkfmdc]

David,
dont go there.. I dont defend anyone out here. I dont even know hardwork.

I dont give a fcuk if they both got banned I am just trying saying my peace. you say your peace all the time..... can others do the same? I know you think the board was desgined just for you but thier are others on here that like to voice opinons just as much as you do.

You dont have to attack everyone that disgrees with you do you?

LMFAO @ you

"attack" him? I've just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes. Is that "attacking him"?

He's the one with all the school yard insults and pathetic rants. If you can't see that, well....... :rolleyes:

[GeneChing]

I'd have to score this all against you, Kansuke. :rolleyes:

[wetwonder]

also, as a point for you to reflect on, do you think that these hateful jabs and attacks at others on the forum is acceptable attitude?



The jabs and attacks are tolerated by the moderators, irrespective of whether or not they show an acceptable attitude. I'm sure that some folks here would ban or suspend, if they had the authority. And apparently, some others here would not.

[lkfmdc]

I'd have to score this all against you, Kansuke. :rolleyes:

but seeing as Kansuke is just another of Gene's many trolling accounts, we'll have to tolerate him a little longer LOL ;)

[EarthDragon]

David,

"attack" him? I've just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes. Is that "attacking him"?

He's the one with all the school yard insults and pathetic rants. If you can't see that, well.......

Again I am not defending anyone.... please understand this.... I dont know how long hes trained or how long his hes been on the forum... thats not what i am talking about.

But I would condsider naming a thread in his name would be an attack .. Im just sayin.....

I simply pointed out that kansuke needs to be warned, his IP suspended or all together banned as he in no way contributes anything postitive to the board. sorry to keep this thread off topic

[lkfmdc]

Jamieson bothers everyone, so there really was need for a special thread about it :D

Still, forgive me for saying, he isn't at all the worst here, far from it. But considering the lax (read nonexistant) moderation standards, and it being a free country and all, you can't ban kanpoopyguy for posting really can you? And as I have already said, every thing you say about him applies 100% equally to "hardwork" who is also extremely unpopular here

[Reverend Tap]

Jamieson bothers everyone, so there really was need for a special thread about it :D

Still, forgive me for saying, he isn't at all the worst here, far from it. But considering the lax (read nonexistant) moderation standards, and it being a free country and all, you can't ban kanpoopyguy for posting really can you? And as I have already said, every thing you say about him applies 100% equally to "hardwork" who is also extremely unpopular here

What's a free country got to do with banning people?

[lkfmdc]

What's a free country got to do with banning people?

you can't ban him because you don't like what he says, or you'd have to have thought police to decide what is the "right thing" to say and think.

you can't ban him for HOW he says it, same basic problem

if you ban him, there is a long list of others, some would argue worse, who would have to be banned

I"ve been around long enough to see what and how he does what he does (back when he was "stink of poop" as well BTW).... he still doesn't interupt the flow of discussion here like others have/are doing currently

[GeneChing]

I ban someone on an almost weekly basis. You just don't see it lkfmdc, because those bans don't concern you. :rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

I ban someone on an almost weekly basis. You just don't see it lkfmdc, because those bans don't concern you. :rolleyes:

I'll believe you, oh great leader and provider of nacho sauce, but it sure doesn't seem like it.... perhaps a great list of those banned ;)

[sanjuro_ronin]

I ban someone on an almost weekly basis. You just don't see it lkfmdc, because those bans don't concern you. :rolleyes:

I don't know how to take this, but I just got this PM:

" Gene bans people everyday, matter of fact, Gene Banned me this morning and it was wonderful".

And it was sent by her:
:eek:

[lkfmdc]

maybe by "ban" he means "pours nacho sauce over their naked bodies" :eek:

[lkfmdc]

some days I feel bad for Gene, he is stuck trying to moderate this board :eek:

[sanjuro_ronin]

You all think you are so smart, with your fancy college education !!
Take this :

[GeneChing]

Don't feel bad for me. Actually all I do is lurk about waiting for the next sanjuro_ronin pic post.

Seriously, in terms of banning, we've always had a very lax policy here. The reason? It's mostly a numbers game. We're like to keep our numbers up. We are funded by a commercial enterprise, so numbers count.

Also, this is a martial arts forum, so I firmly believe everyone should fight their own battles. It amazes me how many people get offended and ask me to step in - people I respect as martial artists - frankly, if you can't take the heat...:rolleyes:

The bulk of the bans are for porn, spam and the occasional legal action. These are all handled as discreetly as possible. After all, discretion is the better part of valor. I generally don't ban people because they are rude or ignorant because I fear that the list of banned people would soon outnumber the members.

I will say this, mostly because lkfmdc is in my face about this: lkfmdc complains the most to me directly via PM and email. lkfmdc, I get about twice as many complaints from you than the entire forum. What is up with that?

Ok, over to sanjuro_ronin. :cool:

[lkfmdc]

Don't feel bad for me. Actually all I do is lurk about waiting for the next sanjuro_ronin pic post.


and




The bulk of the bans are for porn



is there a contradiction there :D




I will say this, mostly because lkfmdc is in my face about this: lkfmdc complains the most to me directly via PM and email. lkfmdc, I get about twice as many complaints from you than the entire forum. What is up with that?



Honestly Gene, I've been here for YEARS (how long, I don't even know?). In all that time I've sent you 4 PM"s that I am aware of, maybe a grand total of 6 (maybe 7?? who knows??)... if that makes me the all time number one then we have quite a passive lot here don't we?

I never had a lawyer call you, did I? ;)

[Reverend Tap]

you can't ban him because you don't like what he says, or you'd have to have thought police to decide what is the "right thing" to say and think.

you can't ban him for HOW he says it, same basic problem

That doesn't actually follow logically. Web forums, no matter how much they get pitched and treated as a commons, are still ultimately private spaces with specific owners. If I had a forum and I decided to ban someone because I didn't like what they were saying, that's basically no different from me kicking someone out of my house for the same reason.

Granted, you get into a lot of difficulties in terms of consistency and deciding exactly how heavy-handed or exclusive to be, but it's nothing to do with free or unfree countries.

[wetwonder]

What is "said" is not solely the problem. What I've seen is that thoughtful posts and thoughtful discussions end up falling off track into personal attacks/exchanges. It's difficult to keep a sincere/serious thread question on track - on track so it can be discussed to its conclusion - before being hijacked.

[GeneChing]

I have yet to see sanjuro_ronin post porn. His pics are risque for sure, but they are not pornographic. You know the difference, right?

You PMed and emailed me about Hardwork just prior to launching your hardwork thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53029). That counts as two within the last month. Now I'm sure there's been more than two more. In that same time, I received only one legal action, which was attended to promptly. I also received two indirect complaints via our moderators, who were just sharing what was going on. Both of those situations seem to be contained.

But more to the point, we (the members of the forum here) are a pretty passive lot when it comes to complaints. When encountering trollish confrontations, most people just click on their ignore function or leave for a spell.

[lkfmdc]

I have yet to see sanjuro_ronin post porn. His pics are risque for sure, but they are not pornographic. You know the difference, right?



you know humor and sarcasm, right? ;)




You PMed and emailed me about Hardwork just prior to launching your hardwork thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53029). That counts as two within the last month.


creating a thread to deride him/ridicule him and harass him is hardly the same thing as complaining to you to ban him! :eek:

I fess up, I did email you when he started to trash talk CTS. Lucky for him he stopped short on that one... but some of us now think there is a better way than banning for him

[Kansuke]

Let me just state for the record that as far I know none of you are "just glorified (fill in blank)," I do not and will not 'decide' who has 'da real kungfu' based on my very limited training in that area, and my chosen area of training does not contain special secrets that make training in other areas corrupting or unnecessary. I don't know what everyone in your countries thinks, does not think, or knows; I do not presume to 'advise' them on where to go or what to do to become more "enlightened," and I have no interest in telling you who to vote for in your country's next election.


Is that so hard?

[Mr Punch]

does anyone want to buy my very nice brush five dollaronly it cleans sand from vagina very good
LMAO! :D That's some funny **** right there.

hmmmn, I gotta give you three full of ****s out of five.LOL... And that's not bad for you Jamieson!

I for one wish Kansuke would post more often: about wrestling and sometimes about its bearing on MMA/da street. His vitriol is sometimes funny, but more often nowadays, it's just boring. And why he or anyone get so uptight about political bs threads is beyond me. I'm passionate about politics, but I'm not gonna get involved with the moronic threads on here about it.

[Kansuke]

and yet, you're so quick to sling the vitriol.





Don't be a presumptuous **** and you won't have to worry about it.

[Kansuke]

I for one wish Kansuke would post more often: about wrestling and sometimes about its bearing on MMA/da street.



Welcome! http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53074

[Hardwork108]

"attack" him? I've just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes. Is that "attacking him"?

THAT WHOLE STATEMENT IS A LIE!

Can you provide any proof for these slanderous statements?

I mean proof besides the posts that you have invented!!!

You seem to be afraid, nervous and very insecure. I mean complaining to Gene and all that!

What is eating you Dave?




He's the one with all the school yard insults and pathetic rants. If you can't see that, well....... :rolleyes:

That comment is very ironic coming from a "man" who instigated a character assassination exercise where he doctored my posts to make me come out as a Nazi, anti-semetic and a criminal. Others who participated in this were Sanjuro ronin and cjurakpt, now posting as Taai Gihk Yahn.

When that charade crumbled around his fat ears he went on to fabricate quotes on my sifu's behalf stating that I had 2 years of kung fu experience and had been thrown out of my school. All feeble attempts at character assassination!

He has been helped in this "exercise" by another of this forum's "respected" members Sanjuro ronin. Their policy is to repeat the lie and try to convince as many posters as possible.

One fact is for sure and that is, you guys are insecure and afraid!

[EarthDragon]

David, I gottcha and I understand you point, I just wanted to let you know that I wasnt trying to defend anyone, just calling out what I had read..

Gene,
when you said if we are more strict and start banning the annoying and rude people out here than the banned would out number the members.... cracked me up!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

its sad but oh so true

[wetwonder]

I've just pointed out that he has 2 years of training and according to his sifu his comments in no way represent what his teacher teaches or believes.


If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court.

However, if your Sifu did make those comments, and lkfmdc is voicing his opinion on that, then there is no claim.

Folks have to truly be careful about spreading lies that they know are false, versus merely expressing opinion, which is usually OK to do.

[taai gihk yahn]

If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court.
not at all, because HW's true identity is unknown and therefore it cannot be proven that the person Dave is allegedly quoting really is his sifu at all; in the "real" world, the one that actually matters to most people, there is no negative carry-over onto his life as a result of what Dave posts, true or otherwise; the only person who might have a case would be HW's alleged sifu, who, if things he did not say are being knowingly misattributed to him, might have a case for misrepresentation, although again, he would have to know which of his students was posting as HW in order to make that claim

[Hardwork108]

If lkfmdc in fact knows that your Sifu did not make negative comments about you, yet falsely mis-represents to the forum that Sifu did make such comments, that meets the element for making a defamation claim in Court.

However, if your Sifu did make those comments, and lkfmdc is voicing his opinion on that, then there is no claim.

Folks have to truly be careful about spreading lies that they know are false, versus merely expressing opinion, which is usually OK to do.

wetwonder,

lkfmdc implies that what he states is a fact. He keeps repeating that lie and others aided on some occassions by Sanuro ronin. They know that they are lying but they know there not much that can be done about it for now at least. So the attempts at character assassination continue.

Another one of their lies was that I supposedly claimed that my sifu had beaten the Gracies in a Bullshido thread. They even provided a link to the thread where all this apparently happened, knowing very well that no one here would bother to read it and hence take their word for it.

As it happens, I did post in that Bullshido thread but all I did was mention that my sifu had fought challenge matches in some of which some wavers were signed. They took this fact to invent a whole story about me claiming that he had beaten Gracies and that I was called out and exposed and banned. All lies!

The idiots who made up all these lies are trying to character assassinate me. People do this when they are insecure and feel threatened!

Take care.:)


So Taai Gihk Yahn got that right about the legal aspect (yes, I am surprised too).

[Lucas]

One of the best things to come out of brazil in forever next to the women and the jiujitsu, is a band named Sepultura. Sadly their lead singer that was with them for years, left the band a few years ago, (they got a new singer from the tribe) but they have this great song called;

Propaganda:

Why dont you get a life and grow up
Why dont you realize that youre ****ed up
Why criticize what you dont understand
Why change my words, you're so afraid

You think you have the right to
Put me down
Propaganda hides your scum
Face to face you dont have a word to say
You got in my way, now you'll have to pay

Dont, dont believe what you
See
Dont, dont believe what you read
No!!!

I know my ways, Im here to stay
I didnt start all this yesterday
Ill prove you wrong all the way
Life teaches me youre always alone

Dont, dont believe what you
See
Dont, dont believe what you read
No!!!

--------

this isnt for anyone in particular, but for the whole ****ed lot of you :p

[lkfmdc]

LMFAO.... you're gonna sue me? Figures, little fairy would **** his pants if he ever had to face me, but he's comfortable from behind his keyboard or getting a lawyer to call me :rolleyes:

Notice how the whole world is wrong, the whole world is lying about him, the whole world is out to get him.... a real head case

Pathetic little troll, you need new material

[lkfmdc]

PS: the letter denouncing him is on three different forums! TWO OF THEM I DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCOUNTS ON....:rolleyes:

[Kansuke]

i know you are but what am I.


I believe I've told you what you are. I haven't tried to tell you what Canadians think, or to advise you on how to cure your nation of ignorance and achieve enlightenment, have I?

[wetwonder]

not at all, because HW's true identity is unknown and therefore it cannot be proven that the person Dave is allegedly quoting really is his sifu at all;

No, that is not relevant to a claim for defamation. It doesn't matter whether or not kansuke actually knows Hardwork's Sifu. It doesn't even matter whether or not Hardwork even has a Sifu.

Rather, to state simply, what matters for defamation is whether:

(1) kansuke based a derogatory statement on a fact that he knew was a lie (claiming the sifu made these remarks yet knowing in-fact that the sifu did not); and

(2) kansuke nonetheless tells forum readers the derogatory remark (about Hardwork) and the falsified fact (that it was said by his sifu); and

(3) one or more of the forum readers sees that the remark was meant to be derogatory and was based on the fact that in reality kansuke knew was false.

The above is called "defamation" and such claims are brought in court and are the basis for settlements everyday.

However, if kansuke did have good reason to believe that hardwork's sifu did make such remarks, than he is just retelling what he believed to be the case and giving his opinion - both of which are OK to do b/c it is for the most part OK to give opinions.

Defamation = $ in the law. Opinions do not.

[wetwonder]

wetwonder,

So Taai Gihk Yahn got that right about the legal aspect (yes, I am surprised too).

No hardwork, Taai Gihk Yahn did not get the law right. Though I'm sure he meant well, his comments are completely wrong.

[BoulderDawg]

That's a little oversimplified. To get any type of settlement you have to prove damages. I could say one of these guys is out in the yard f'ing a sheep. They may not like it but unless they can show some sort of damages they can't collect anything.

Also, all this talk is a bit silly. However one day the chickens will come home to roost on this board or another. You'll get a hothead like this lkfmdc who will decide to have a face to face with somebody on this board and somebody will wind up dead.......then you can talk about damages.

[wetwonder]

That's a little oversimplified. To get any type of settlement you have to prove damages. I could say one of these guys is out in the yard f'ing a sheep. They may not like it but unless they can show some sort of damages they can't collect anything.

Also, all this talk is a bit silly. However one day the chickens will come home to roost on this board or another. You'll get a hothead like this lkfmdc who will decide to have a face to face with somebody on this board and somebody will wind up dead.......then you can talk about damages.


No, you don't have to prove actual damages for a defamation claim. It is called special damages, and proving the defamation itself creates liability in terms of damages as a matter of law. It is tricky - you would have needed to go to law school, studied a lot, and done well in your classes to know the intricacies of this type of law.

And I don't agree that this talk is silly. If you've ever been wronged to the extent that you really felt it, than you know that it's not a good feeling. Civilized people have the right to live in peace. If you want to give up that right and let people screw with you, that's your perogative.

[BoulderDawg]

What law school did you attend?

By the way, everyone has the expectation to live in peace. In this case that can be accomplished by not coming to the web site...it's as simple as that.

[Reverend Tap]

No, you don't have to prove actual damages for a defamation claim. It is called special damages, and proving the defamation itself creates liability in terms of damages as a matter of law. It is tricky - you would have needed to go to law school, studied a lot, and done well in your classes to know the intricacies of this type of law.

And I don't agree that this talk is silly. If you've ever been wronged to the extent that you really felt it, than you know that it's not a good feeling. Civilized people have the right to live in peace. If you want to give up that right and let people screw with you, that's your perogative.

Rather blowing this all out of proportion, don't you think?

If there was a legit claim for a defamation ruling based on every lie told about someone, there would be roughly six people left on the internet while the rest basically lived in court. He|l, even with all the mud and vitriol being slung every which way, this place remains waaay tamer than many forums.

Having lies told about you on the internet may suck, but the only motivating factor for taking it to court without actual damages occurring is pure greed.

[wetwonder]

Hey, I love analyzing and talking law. So sue me.

I'm just pointing out people's rights. Whether or not they want to invoke them is their choice.

[Kansuke]

speaking of ignorance, you do realize this is a "forum" where people are encouraged to express their opinions? right? You do realize that right? right?


Answer my question, you presumptuous ****.

[Kansuke]

your command of the language is substandard



Is that so? Well, I'd sure appreciate any help you could offer in that area. Could you let me know what your qualifications are to so instruct? While you're at it, could you also let me know how you are qualified to advise and enlighten entire nations?

Thanks, champ.

[sanjuro_ronin]

This forum needs an enema !!!

You people all lack chi !!

:p


As for Gene:

[sanjuro_ronin]

You gentlemen have the boorish manners of Yale men !

[sanjuro_ronin]

Yale? Isn't that where retarded wealthy children go? :p

Yes, yes it is.

[Kansuke]

You didn't have a question. You just threw out an insult and didn't ask anything. And anything you did ask was some rhetorical nonsense or what have you.


Nice job contradicting yourself. :rolleyes:


You can't even bring yourself to admit you've been a presumptuous d-bag. You know it's true, but you lack the character to be honest about it. What a surprise.

[taai gihk yahn]

No, that is not relevant to a claim for defamation. It doesn't matter whether or not kansuke actually knows Hardwork's Sifu. It doesn't even matter whether or not Hardwork even has a Sifu.

Rather, to state simply, what matters for defamation is whether:

(1) kansuke based a derogatory statement on a fact that he knew was a lie (claiming the sifu made these remarks yet knowing in-fact that the sifu did not); and

(2) kansuke nonetheless tells forum readers the derogatory remark (about Hardwork) and the falsified fact (that it was said by his sifu); and

(3) one or more of the forum readers sees that the remark was meant to be derogatory and was based on the fact that in reality kansuke knew was false.

The above is called "defamation" and such claims are brought in court and are the basis for settlements everyday.

However, if kansuke did have good reason to believe that hardwork's sifu did make such remarks, than he is just retelling what he believed to be the case and giving his opinion - both of which are OK to do b/c it is for the most part OK to give opinions.

Defamation = $ in the law. Opinions do not.
ok, so here's the scenario: let's assume that Kansuke knowingly misrepresents what HW's sifu said and let's say that HW in fact acknowledges that the person is actually his sifu, and claims that what Kansuke printed is a lie; (TBH, I really have no idea if it's true or not); bear in mind that we still have no idea who HW actually is, meaning that the only negative reflection is on his anonymous internet persona; HW in reality will not suffer at all; in fact he only would have real problems if his true identity becomes known; the only way for that to happen is for HW to reveal it himself, which he certainly would not do, since he knows that while having his on-line rep besmirched is a relatively minor inconvenience, it pales in comparison to what could happen if his true identity were being impugned (negative impact on family, career, etc.); so let's say HW hires an attorney and pursues legal recourse - if it goes before a judge, the judge would want to know in what way this defamation has caused him a loss of some sort; as soon as that judge finds out that the only impact has been on his internet nom-de-plume, what do you think will happen? yeah, buh-bye;

also, you apply a legal definition of defamation - according to what legal statute? HW is in So. America; Kansuke is somewhere else (possibly Japan); the KFMF server is in California - what jurisdiction would you propose handles something like this? it's a non-starter

[Kansuke]

the only douche bag here is you mr.hidy pants can't stand behind what he says. :p

seriously. grow a pair of nads or something.



So this is how you plan to avoid owning up to your ****y attitude? I'm not surprised, you little weasel.

[TenTigers]

wTF is going on, on this board lately? I swear, the moon must be in Biotch, or something. Enough already. Give it a rest. What are you, guys or chix?
I though chix held onto sh1t, but you guys are pathetic.
People stalking each other across the forums, ganging up one each other like school kids, misquoting,bullying, threatening,biching to the mods, arguing over meaningless drivel.
Take a break, and think up a really good topic that we can all enjoy and exchange some info, opinions, etc.
But this sh1t has got to stop. Some of you have recognizable names and you make yourselves look like total azzes. Have you no clue how you are coming across? Wake da fuk up.

[wetwonder]

ok, so here's the scenario: let's assume that Kansuke knowingly misrepresents what HW's sifu said and let's say that HW in fact acknowledges that the person is actually his sifu, and claims that what Kansuke printed is a lie; (TBH, I really have no idea if it's true or not); bear in mind that we still have no idea who HW actually is, meaning that the only negative reflection is on his anonymous internet persona; HW in reality will not suffer at all; in fact he only would have real problems if his true identity becomes known; the only way for that to happen is for HW to reveal it himself, which he certainly would not do, since he knows that while having his on-line rep besmirched is a relatively minor inconvenience, it pales in comparison to what could happen if his true identity were being impugned (negative impact on family, career, etc.); so let's say HW hires an attorney and pursues legal recourse - if it goes before a judge, the judge would want to know in what way this defamation has caused him a loss of some sort; as soon as that judge finds out that the only impact has been on his internet nom-de-plume, what do you think will happen? yeah, buh-bye;

also, you apply a legal definition of defamation - according to what legal statute? HW is in So. America; Kansuke is somewhere else (possibly Japan); the KFMF server is in California - what jurisdiction would you propose handles something like this? it's a non-starter

Taai Gihk,

I understand your intuitioin on this, and yours is actually a pretty reasonable argument, but it's wrong.

First, defamation is not created by statute, it comes from common law.

Second, just by showing, among a few other things, that there was a knowing lie based on some proposed fact that was false will create liability for damages as a matter of law. You don't have to quantify damages or make any other showing. That falls under the special damages doctrine and is covered in an earlier post. The jury will determine what the money damages should be based on their knowledge and values.

Third, the fact that he uses a different name on the forum is not going to effect it. Defamation is tort law, and the point of tort law in to place blame against someone that wrongs another. Hardwork has some type of reputation on the forum, and that's enough.

If you were right with your argument, then you'd be saying that the member would not be wronged no matter how many knowing lies are said, even if there's one done every day, by many people, maliciously. The question is, would a reasonable person feel wronged if subjected to that. If I, for example, put up a post every day claiming your wife or whoever said things to me about you in secret that were very derogatory, wouldn't you be hurt by that? And if I was knowingly lying, didn't even know your wife, but made it seem to the community that I did, wouldn't you feel helpless. You have a right not to suffer that in the American law.

[wetwonder]

wTF is going on, on this board lately? I swear, the moon must be in Biotch, or something. Enough already. Give it a rest. What are you, guys or chix?

Ten Tigers,

People are human. I learned that recently, no joke.

[Kansuke]

I don't have a poor attitude.
My attitude is my own and I stand by it.



Then you admit that your comments were ignorant and ill-advised?

[Kansuke]

If he had any guts at all, he'd put his own name up.



So this is what you're going to go with? You're going to 'hide' behind this utterly transparent little attempt at misdirection to avoid admitting your comments and your attitude were inappropriate? Just "be a man" and own up to it and you won't have to worry about it (until the next time you do it). Case by case, step by step, you can grow up and learn to stop being a d-bag.

[Hardwork108]

....though I am sure that he meant well

I doubt that taai gihk yahn meant well. I believe he was trying to "protect" his forum buddy lkfmdc with whom he actively participated in lkfmdc´s first attempt at character assassination where my posts were doctored to show me as a Nazi, antisemetic and a criminal. At that occasion he was posting as cjurakpt!!!



No hardwork, Taai Gihk Yahn did not get the law right....

I knew it was too good to be true.:D

[Hardwork108]

LMFAO.... you're gonna sue me?

Not really, so relax!

Your fear and insecurity are gaining a legendary reputation in this site.



Figures, little fairy would **** his pants if he ever had to face me,

Yeah, from uncontrolled laughter, no doubt.



but he's comfortable from behind his keyboard or getting a lawyer to call me :rolleyes:

No one is going to call a lawyer on you. You scared little man....lol.


Notice how the whole world is wrong, the whole world is lying about him, the whole world is out to get him.... a real head case

The "whole world" you talk about is the your world of insecure MMA-ist knuckleheads!


Pathetic little troll, you need new material

You took the words out of my mouth. Let´s see now. Oh yes, why don´t you invent some more untruthfull posts and attribute them to someone else I know?

That should keep your simple mind happy for couple of more weeks.

[Hardwork108]

PS: the letter denouncing him is on three different forums! TWO OF THEM I DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCOUNTS ON....:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[Reverend Tap]

Taai Gihk,

I understand your intuitioin on this, and yours is actually a pretty reasonable argument, but it's wrong.

First, defamation is not created by statute, it comes from common law.

Second, just by showing, among a few other things, that there was a knowing lie based on some proposed fact that was false will create liability for damages as a matter of law. You don't have to quantify damages or make any other showing. That falls under the special damages doctrine and is covered in an earlier post. The jury will determine what the money damages should be based on their knowledge and values.

Third, the fact that he uses a different name on the forum is not going to effect it. Defamation is tort law, and the point of tort law in to place blame against someone that wrongs another. Hardwork has some type of reputation on the forum, and that's enough.

If you were right with your argument, then you'd be saying that the member would not be wronged no matter how many knowing lies are said, even if there's one done every day, by many people, maliciously. The question is, would a reasonable person feel wronged if subjected to that. If I, for example, put up a post every day claiming your wife or whoever said things to me about you in secret that were very derogatory, wouldn't you be hurt by that? And if I was knowingly lying, didn't even know your wife, but made it seem to the community that I did, wouldn't you feel helpless. You have a right not to suffer that in the American law.

I talked today to a buddy of mine who is, though not currently a lawyer or working in a legal field, on the Colorado bar. He said that basically, unless real damages could be proven or it could be shown to be reasonable to assume real damages will be caused in the future, the defamation case would get thrown out of court. He also, however, did say that the applicable laws vary considerably from state to state, so it's completely possible that that's not the case where you are. Of course, given that Hardwork is (if I'm remembering correctly) out of the country, you'd be looking at an entirely different set of laws and jurisdictions to begin with, rendering all of this basically moot.

[Hardwork108]

Of course, given that Hardwork is (if I'm remembering correctly) out of the country, you'd be looking at an entirely different set of laws and jurisdictions to begin with, rendering all of this basically moot.

You are right, I am out of the country. I am in Colombia where people making slanderous remarks are taken to justice in much more practical ways.;):D

[Hardwork108]

Taai Gihk,

I understand your intuitioin on this, and yours is actually a pretty reasonable argument, but it's wrong.

First, defamation is not created by statute, it comes from common law.

Second, just by showing, among a few other things, that there was a knowing lie based on some proposed fact that was false will create liability for damages as a matter of law. You don't have to quantify damages or make any other showing. That falls under the special damages doctrine and is covered in an earlier post. The jury will determine what the money damages should be based on their knowledge and values.

Third, the fact that he uses a different name on the forum is not going to effect it. Defamation is tort law, and the point of tort law in to place blame against someone that wrongs another. Hardwork has some type of reputation on the forum, and that's enough.

If you were right with your argument, then you'd be saying that the member would not be wronged no matter how many knowing lies are said, even if there's one done every day, by many people, maliciously. The question is, would a reasonable person feel wronged if subjected to that. If I, for example, put up a post every day claiming your wife or whoever said things to me about you in secret that were very derogatory, wouldn't you be hurt by that? And if I was knowingly lying, didn't even know your wife, but made it seem to the community that I did, wouldn't you feel helpless. You have a right not to suffer that in the American law.


Wetwonder,

Thank you. Your post has been educational.
You write well. :)

[taai gihk yahn]

Taai Gihk,

I understand your intuitioin on this, and yours is actually a pretty reasonable argument, but it's wrong.

First, defamation is not created by statute, it comes from common law.
fine, but again, under what jurisdiction does this fall? HW is posting from So. America; Kansuke is, I believe in Asia; the server is in the US; and again, as a practical matter, where would HW even bring the case to trial?


Second, just by showing, among a few other things, that there was a knowing lie based on some proposed fact that was false will create liability for damages as a matter of law. You don't have to quantify damages or make any other showing. That falls under the special damages doctrine and is covered in an earlier post. The jury will determine what the money damages should be based on their knowledge and values.
and as a practical matter, against whom would they find? Kansuke is also anonymous; does the court have the right to expose his identity in this case? and again, HW would have to reveal his identity to bring suit, so there is really no practical incentive for this;


Third, the fact that he uses a different name on the forum is not going to effect it. Defamation is tort law, and the point of tort law in to place blame against someone that wrongs another. Hardwork has some type of reputation on the forum, and that's enough.
which reputation? amongst some, it is positive, but amongst most others here it is a negative one; if Kansuke's accusations fall under the opinion of the majority, what has he done to practically effect HW's rep.?


If you were right with your argument, then you'd be saying that the member would not be wronged no matter how many knowing lies are said, even if there's one done every day, by many people, maliciously. The question is, would a reasonable person feel wronged if subjected to that. If I, for example, put up a post every day claiming your wife or whoever said things to me about you in secret that were very derogatory, wouldn't you be hurt by that?
dude, it's an internet forum - if I really care about some BS that someone posts about me here, I need to seriously re-evaluate my sense of myself; and remember, one can always turn one's computer off and get back to reality...


And if I was knowingly lying, didn't even know your wife, but made it seem to the community that I did, wouldn't you feel helpless.
no; first, I can post and defend myself; also, an internet forum is somewhat organic: the majority of people here who know me and seem to get along with me, so they would be inclined to believe what I posted as opposed to some noob saying cr@p about my wife; meaning that, the opinions held by others about oneself are typically the result of one's behavior in general; like any community, one has allies and adversaries; if one is socially appropriate, one will have more of the former and less of the latter;


You have a right not to suffer that in the American law.
again, what if I am posting from another country?

[taai gihk yahn]

I doubt that taai gihk yahn meant well.
actually, I had no agenda other than discussing the "case" objectively;


I believe he was trying to "protect" his forum buddy lkfmdc with whom he actively participated in lkfmdc´s first attempt at character assassination where my posts were doctored to show me as a Nazi, antisemetic and a criminal.
there's nothing to protect anyone from; and how exactly would my posting be protection from anything if in fact you actually had legal recourse? if you do, you do, if you don't, you don't, nothing to do with my current postings


At that occasion he was posting as cjurakpt!!!
yes; and?


I knew it was too good to be true.:D
no, actually you didn't;

[taai gihk yahn]

You right well. :)
you, on the other hand...:p

[taai gihk yahn]

I talked today to a buddy of mine who is, though not currently a lawyer or working in a legal field, on the Colorado bar. He said that basically, unless real damages could be proven or it could be shown to be reasonable to assume real damages will be caused in the future, the defamation case would get thrown out of court.
thank you - exactly my point from the get go;



He also, however, did say that the applicable laws vary considerably from state to state, so it's completely possible that that's not the case where you are. Of course, given that Hardwork is (if I'm remembering correctly) out of the country, you'd be looking at an entirely different set of laws and jurisdictions to begin with, rendering all of this basically moot.
again, my point - you are actually dealing with multiple jurisdictions here - Columbia, possibly Japan, and I don't know how to classify the Internet - is it based on the location of the forum server?

[Hardwork108]

actually, I had no agenda other than discussing the "case" objectively;

Yeah, just like you had "no agenda" when you said that you didn´t know wether Kansuke (and lkfmdc) were lying about my sifu and just like you had "no agenda" when you participated in that character assassination exercise instigated by lkfmdc to make me out as a Nazi and an anti semetic, when you were posting as cjurakpt!



there's nothing to protect anyone from; and how exactly would my posting be protection from anything if in fact you actually had legal recourse? if you do, you do, if you don't, you don't, nothing to do with my current postings

I meant that you were trying to cover his @ss in this forum!



yes; and?

Read my first statement in this post!

Furthermore, posting as cjurakpt you participated in the same kind of character assassination and (slanderous) behavior that you are discussing now while doing your best to cover your friends´ Kansuke and lkfmdc´s collective -@sess and by extension your own!

Wetwonder, if you are reading this then please be aware with whom it is that you are discussing this subject.

Taai gihk yahn is a forum buddy of lkfmdc and kansuke and as mentioned, has in the past participated in the same kind of behavior (against me) that you are criticizing/discussing now.



no, actually you didn't;

It was just an expression taai gihk yahn.:rolleyes:

[Hardwork108]

you, on the other hand...:p

Thanks for that taai gihk yahn. I went and corrected my error.

Finally I have understood why the forces that be have adorned us with your presence in this forum (most people having already excluded any possibility of your divine purpose of your forum existance was to make any intelligent kung fu discussion).

[Hardwork108]

again, my point - you are actually dealing with multiple jurisdictions here - Columbia, possibly Japan, and I don't know how to classify the Internet - is it based on the location of the forum server?

What was it you said about spelling things "right"?

Well at least you spelled Japan correctly.:D

[taai gihk yahn]

Yeah, just like you had "no agenda" when you said that you didn´t know wether Kansuke (and lkfmdc) were lying about my sifu
not having followed that thread / topic I really don't know what it was all about - e.g. - there were links to Bullshido, but having no interest, i never followed them; for all I know, they are spreading lies; or they are not; I don't know; I don't really care about what your sifu may or may not have said; but certainly that won't stop wetwonder or any one else who is interested from making up their own minds


and just like you had "no agenda" when you participated in that character assassination exercise instigated by lkfmdc to make me out as a Nazi and an anti semetic, when you were posting as cjurakpt!
you mean you are no longer affiliated with that particular political movement?:rolleyes:


I meant that you were trying to cover his @ss in this forum!
dude, it's a public forum; there's no where to hide, nothing to cover; anyone can read anything that's posted and make up their minds accordingly; you really must be thick if you misconstrue my examining a case on its "legal" merits as a means of providing "cover";


Furthermore, posting as cjurakpt you participated in the same kind of character assassination and (slanderous) behavior that you are discussing now while doing your best to cover your friends´ Kansuke and lkfmdc´s collective -@sess and by extension your own!
sorry, nice try; I make no attempt to cover my asz or anyone else's; you really need to chill on the conspiracy theory (BTW, speaking of "conspiracies, what you didn't know is that I have always aspartame like the plague and ignored my pediatrician's "advice" last year to give my son flouride supplements; now let's see what sort of derogatory remark you can come up with for those comments); bottom line, people will read this post and they can go back and review the entire history of my postings as tgy or cjpt as they like;


Wetwonder, if you are reading this then please be aware with whom it is that you are discussing this subject.
he seems to be doing just fine; see, unlike you, wetwonder is able to engage in critcism of what I write without resorting to name-calling and condescension; you still evidently have not figured out that you come across as a smug, pompous asz, even when someone is trying to have an amicable discussion with you but does not wholesale accept your perspective;


Taai gihk yahn is a forum buddy of lkfmdc and kansuke and as mentioned, has in the past participated in the same kind of behavior (against me) that you are criticizing/discussing now.
I think he gets your message; which is that you will keep whining forever about how poorly you've been treated here :rolleyes:

[taai gihk yahn]

What was it you said about spelling things "right"?

Well at least you spelled Japan correctly.:D
habit; I spelled it like my school;
and changing one letter as opposed to using the wrong word completely; yeah, real comparison

[taai gihk yahn]

Thanks for that taai gihk yahn. I went and corrected my error.

Finally I have understood why the forces that be have adorned us with your presence in this forum (most people having already excluded any possibility of your divine purpose of your forum existance was to make any intelligent kung fu discussion).
"most people"? LOL, do you really believe what you "right"? or do you just throw out these things because you like being completely ridiculous?

[wetwonder]

taai gihk yahn,

Being a legal academic, I could go on about this, but perhaps it's best if you believe what you think is right. (And I will save you the headache of reading about how a foreigner can be sued by an American in a U.S. Court concerning an internet related dispute, b/c I'm sure you'll disagree.) I just find the law interesting and fascinating, and excuse me if I went on too much.

I think I'll change my ID to Kung Fu Attorney (which would probably encourage everyone to put me on their ignore lists).

[Hardwork108]

not having followed that thread / topic I really don't know what it was all about - e.g. - there were links to Bullshido, but having no interest, i never followed them; for all I know, they are spreading lies; or they are not; I don't know; I don't really care about what your sifu may or may not have said; but certainly that won't stop wetwonder or any one else who is interested from making up their own minds

You are being dishonest here and you know it. Lkfmdc´s comments about my sifu started just after the first ugly slanderous prank collapsed around your collective ears!


you mean you are no longer affiliated with that particular political movement?:rolleyes:

You are doing your best to make the character assassination exercise you participated in sound trivial knowing very well that other posters fell for it and at least one demanded that I should have been banned!

You are again covering your asz!



dude, it's a public forum;
That would seem to indicate the gravity of the slanderous prank that you participated in and its "evolution" where my sifu´s name has been dragged across this forum.


there's no where to hide, nothing to cover;

Not as far as you are concerned!


anyone can read anything that's posted and make up their minds accordingly;
That would seem the idea where everything else is on the level, but character assassination, by its very nature is there to influence the readers!!!

you really must be thick if you misconstrue my examining a case on its "legal" merits as a means of providing "cover";

You really must be thick to think that no one would notice you playing innocent by "not knowing" whether my sifu actually made those remarks that lkfmdc keeps referring to.


sorry, nice try; I make no attempt to cover my asz or anyone else's; you really need to chill on the conspiracy theory
The fact is that you, Lkfmdc, kansuke and a couple of others have "ganged" up and participated in an ugly and prank that was nothing but an attempt at character assassination, be it in an internet forum.

When that collapsed, most of you gave up except Lkfmdc and Kansuke who continued by (lkfmdc) bringing my sifus name into another attempt and now you are saying that you have no idea wether what lkfmdc alleges is true or not????

The only thing you don´t have an idea about is MORALITY!



(BTW, speaking of "conspiracies, what you didn't know is that I have always aspartame like the plague and ignored my pediatrician's "advice" last year to give my son flouride supplements;

Is that why you took the time in another thread to discredit what I was implying about the dangers of these substances.

Anyway, on a positive note when your son grows up he will be less likely to make idiotic posts on kung fu forums.


now let's see what sort of derogatory remark you can come up with for those comments); bottom line, people will read this post and they can go back and review the entire history of my postings as tgy or cjpt as they like;

The problem is that most people won´t do that and lkfmdc, Sanjuro ronin,kansuke and YOU, know that when you make your stupid pranks!


he seems to be doing just fine; see, unlike you, wetwonder is able to engage in critcism of what I write without resorting to name-calling and condescension; you still evidently have not figured out that you come across as a smug, pompous asz, even when someone is trying to have an amicable discussion with you but does not wholesale accept your perspective;

Of course he is doing fine because unlike you, he seems to know about the subject area of the discussion.



I think he gets your message; which is that you will keep whining forever about how poorly you've been treated here :rolleyes:

The message is that you, yourself ACTIVELY participated in the same kind of immoral behavior and with the same people, that you are discussing now!!!

[taai gihk yahn]

taai gihk yahn,

Being a legal academic, I could go on about this, but perhaps it's best if you believe what you think is right. (And I will save you the headache of reading about how a foreigner can be sued by an American in a U.S. Court concerning an internet related dispute, b/c I'm sure you'll disagree.) I just find the law interesting and fascinating, and excuse me if I went on too much.

I think I'll change my ID to Kung Fu Attorney (which would probably encourage everyone to put me on their ignore lists).
it's not so much what I believe is right - I do not doubt the law you cite, just trying to look at the pragmatics of it; as far as the whole jurisdiction issue, I would be interested in that - but it's not an American suing a foreigner, it would be the other way around - HW is in Colombia, LKFMDC is in the US;

[Hardwork108]

habit; I spelled it like my school;
and changing one letter as opposed to using the wrong word completely; yeah, real comparison

That one letter changed the location by about a few thousand miles.
That is ok though as your spelling is far better than your "kung fu"!

[Hardwork108]

"most people"?

Sorry, my mistake, I meant most people who practice authentic kung fu!


LOL, do you really believe what you "right"?

It is WRITE and not right. Sheesh, talk about slow!


or do you just throw out these things because you like being completely ridiculous?

Not really. your kung fu knowledge is not up to par.

[taai gihk yahn]

You are being dishonest here and you know it.
hey, whatever; you will believe what you want because either it suits your agenda or because you can't handle the fact that you are actually wrong about something


my sifu´s name has been dragged across this forum.
the funny thing is, I have paid so little attention to it that I don't even know his full name - it's Andrea something, right? that's about all I know except that he supposedly fought some challenge matches in Europe;


You really must be thick to think that no one would notice you playing innocent by "not knowing" whether my sifu actually made those remarks that lkfmdc keeps referring to.
I don't know if he made them or not, I wasn't there and LKFMDC supposedly got his info from Bullshido, and i never went over there to check out the thread in question, so I don't know what they were talking about; was it the thing about how he supposedly disowned you?


you are saying that you have no idea wether what lkfmdc alleges is true or not????
I don't know; and i don't care; whatever happened it's between you and your sifu; if you guys are on the outs whatever; if not, then there is no issue; only you know the truth for certain; I have no capacity to judge that or any interest in it at all


Is that why you took the time in another thread to discredit what I was implying about the dangers of these substances.
no, see, I wasn't criticising the claims per se, i was criticizing the method of delivery of the people making those claims; just because I may agree with certain things doesn't mean I can't find flaws in the delivery; that was my main point; you assumed the rest;


Of course he is doing fine because unlike you, he seems to know about the subject area of the discussion.
yet you still feel the need to "warn" him...:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

The fact is that you, Lkfmdc, kansuke and a couple of others have "ganged" up on me,. wah waaaah waaaaaah glurp glurp



cry me a river :rolleyes:

you're a pathetic troll who would run and hide in a trash can if you ever had to face anyone from here... you know it, the forum knows it....

[taai gihk yahn]

That one letter changed the location by about a few thousand miles.
and still doesn't make what you wrote any less stupid


That is ok though as your spelling is far better than your "kung fu"!
:rolleyes:


Sorry, my mistake, I meant most people who practice authentic kung fu!
:rolleyes:


It is WRITE and not right. Sheesh, talk about slow!
see, this is why everyone thinks you are a pr1ck - because of your continued use of this piszy little tactic of yours where you take someone's obvious sarcasm and try to paint it as if they actually made an error; do you think it's funny or is it that you hope that someone reading it might actually believe it? waitaminit - are you actually trying to unduly influence readers to believe negative things about someone else? wow, that's so, so...immoral!

Not really. your kung fu knowledge is not up to par.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

[taai gihk yahn]

cry me a river :rolleyes:

you're a pathetic troll who would run and hide in a trash can if you ever had to face anyone from here... you know it, the forum knows it....

no Dave, you are wrong - no trash can would ever demean itself by letting him in;

[lkfmdc]

no Dave, you are wrong - no trash can would ever demean itself by letting him in;

"Hardwork" - even a trash can is too good for him!

[taai gihk yahn]

"Hardwork" - even a trash can is too good for him!

I think that this constitutes defamation;

it's also technically a derailment, as this thread is supposed to be devoted to trashing Jameson, not HW;

[BoulderDawg]

"Hardwork" - even a trash can is too good for him!


Dam. why don't you give it up.....Gene has already said you whine in private to him twice as much as the rest of the board does.......I guess you decided to bring that to the open board.

[Kansuke]

Not at all.



Then you're still a d-bag, d-bag.

[golden arhat]

Anyway, on a positive note when your son grows up he will be less likely to make idiotic posts on kung fu forums.
refrain from commenting on peoples children, your barely an adult yourself




Not really. your kung fu knowledge is not up to par.

sheesh really ? **** better get training thankyou oh wise one:rolleyes:

when was the last time you participated in a no holds barred fight?
are you a compettitor?

[Hardwork108]

hey, whatever; you will believe what you want because either it suits your agenda

As I have said this before my "agenda" is to discuss authentic kung fu and obviously that is not going to happen with someone like you nor your kickboxer friends!

Get my drift!



or because you can't handle the fact that you are actually wrong about something

I am wrong about a lot of things but I am not wrong about your dishonesty nor your hypocritic behavior here in the kung fu forum.




the funny thing is, I have paid so little attention to it that I don't even know his full name -

That is because you already knew that it was Lkfmdc's invented BS, or is it that fragile attention span of yours?



I don't know if he made them or not, I wasn't there and LKFMDC supposedly got his info from Bullshido, and i never went over there to check out the thread in question, so I don't know what they were talking about; was it the thing about how he supposedly disowned you?

Let me get this right, you participated in an ugly prank that was made to make me look like a Nazi, antisemetic criminal. Then when the prank collapsed around your ears, Lkfmdc comes out with another story about my sifu disowning me and that I made fraudulent claims and was caught up (this "masterpiece" being fabricated together with Sanjuro ronin) and etc. etc. but that you somehow dont know wether this is true or not???

I must give it to you, you are really trying hard!



I don't know; and i don't care; whatever happened it's between you and your sifu; if you guys are on the outs whatever; if not, then there is no issue; only you know the truth for certain;

You are doing your best to give possible credibility to this story by you "whatever happened" phrase.

Nothing happened Taai gihk yahn!

Everything that Lkfmdc wrote was his own fabrication and you knew it from the start!


I have no capacity to judge that
Even you have the capacity to have "judged" the untruthfullness of Lkfmdc, yes even you!



no, see, I wasn't criticising the claims per se, i was criticizing the method of delivery of the people making those claims; just because I may agree with certain things doesn't mean I can't find flaws in the delivery; that was my main point; you assumed the rest;

My assumption was based on your failed debunking attempt!

The problem with you is that you try to come out as more intelligent than you actually are hence you end up with higher than average "foot in the mouth" moments.



yet you still feel the need to "warn" him...:rolleyes:

I "warned" wetwonder about you and not the subject matter, in which he is doing very well!

[Hardwork108]

cry me a river :rolleyes:

According to Gene, it is you who has been doing all the crying here lately.;)

Taai gihk yahn may be a hypocrit but you Lkfmdc, you really cut the cake. You instigate a character assassination campaign where my posts are doctored to make me appear to be a Nazi antisemetic, a criminal,etc.

Then you go on to invent messages on my sifus's behalf using his real name where he is supposed to disown me.

You together with Sanjuro ronin have spread lies where I am supposed to have lied about my sifu beating the Gracies in a Bullshido thread and supposedly been found out and banned by them.

Then you have enought audacity to go to Gene to complain about me when I exposed your lying @ss.

At least Sanjuro ronin had enough sense to hide his "warrior" butt behind the "ignore" button so that he would not have to answer to me about his lies.


you're a pathetic troll who would run and hide in a trash can if you ever had to face anyone from here
If by "anyone from here" you mean Glorified Kickboxers who are here to market their businesses or to get some much needed attention for their "tough image" by posting Youtube clips of themselves breaking "dangerous" pieces of wood, then I would not even get a chance to run for sure as I would be most likely laughing myself to a cardiac arrest.

You guys are capable of doing this to me by reminding me of any of your "informative" posts on the subject of kung fu.

Who would have thought that Glorified Kickboxers would be the first to make long range dimmak work for real.





... you know it, the forum knows it....


Right now the forum knows a lot more than you think!;)

[Hardwork108]

and still doesn't make what you wrote any less stupid
Nor does it make what you wrote more intelligent!


see, this is why everyone thinks you are a pr1ck - because of your continued use of this piszy little tactic of yours where you take someone's obvious sarcasm and try to paint it as if they actually made an error;

Your "everyone" refers to the MMA-ists who are here to sell the "fact" that MMA is the best, I suppose?

The fact that it was an "obvious" sarcasm then what I did with it would constitute a gag and not an accusation of an error on your part.

You are making enough real errors here without me having to invent some for you!!!



do you think it's funny or is it that you hope that someone reading it might actually believe it? waitaminit - are you actually trying to unduly influence readers to believe negative things about someone else?

As I said Mr Taai "I am intelligent but no one seems to notice" gihk yahn, it was an obvious gag.


wow, that's so, so...immoral!
A gag is not immoral but the slanderous campaign in which you, lkfmdc and sanjuro ronin participated is!


:rolleyes:

It is amazing how you roll your eyes when I mention authentic kung fu. I know that you must find this phrase rather confusing but don't let that little brain of yours worry too much, because as statistics prove most people (and you among them) do not practice authentic kung fu, but rather a superficial versions some of which are better than others.

[golden arhat]

wahhhhhhh i want a bottle cos i'm too ***** to spar for real and do any real work so i'm determined to put everyon else down because of my own insecurities wahhhhhhh:(:(

MMA IS AWESOME AND BY FAR THE BEST ;)
(all arts are mixtures of other arts)




hw i think you should read bawangs posts on the boxer rebellion in the "way kung fu was trained in previous centires" thread might offer up some ideas about what your real and authentic training is

you'll probs say everyone else is wrong anyway :rolleyes:

its not me it must be wait no it can't be i cant believe it......EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT FROM ME IS JUST PLAIN WRONG IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW:rolleyes:

[Hardwork108]

refrain from commenting on peoples children, your barely an adult yourself

First of all, what happened to your ignore button? Oh, you havent found it yet? Ok, think headgear and make your way to www.martialartsmart.com

Secondly, I was not commenting negatively on "people's" children but rather their father.

Thirdly, please make that "realistically trained" punchdrunk brain of your to direct your hand and click on my profile then you will see my age.



sheesh really ? **** better get training thankyou oh wise one:rolleyes:

You are welcome you simple knucklehead.


when was the last time you participated in a no holds barred fight? are you a compettitor?

I don't participate in NHB competitions!

When was the last time you had a brain scan?

[golden arhat]

ok so heres the gang of people that hate HW according to HW
sanjuro
lkfmdc
kansuke

heres the results of the poll
7 people thing its "gene ching trolling the forum" which is obviously tongue in cheek but still recognise you as a TROLL
3 people voted "this forum needs fools like hardwork"
so thats 3 people who think you a fool
4 people said "he's a fool but i have him on ignore"
so thast 7 people who say your a FOOL
and an almight 9 PEOPLE SAY YOUR A FOOL AND SHOULD BE BANNED
ok so lets total this
thats a grand total of 33 people who hold a negative view on you


are they all part of this "mma tough guy gang then?"


33 people on this forum think your a fool and a troll
mr popular arent we :D

[golden arhat]

First of all, what happened to your ignore button? Oh, you havent found it yet? Ok, think headgear and make your way to www.martialartsmart.com

Secondly, I was not commenting negatively on "people's" children.

Thirdly, please make that "realistically trained" punchdrunk brain of your to direct your hand and click on my profile then you will see my age.




You are welcome you simple knucklehead.



I don't participate in NHB competitions!

When was the last time you had a brain scan?

i havent needed one

if your not going full contact then you dont know ****
why dont you realise this

video your REAL KUNG FU or stfu

[Hardwork108]

MMA IS AWESOME AND BY FAR THE BEST ;)
That is fine little boy so why don't you go and post in an MMA forum.


(all arts are mixtures of other arts)

I think everyone here knows that fact yet you are still hopelessly lost when it comes to understanding kung fu.



hw i think you should read bawangs posts on the boxer rebellion in the "way kung fu was trained in previous centires" thread might offer up some ideas about what your real and authentic training is

I seem to have a much better idea of what my real authentic kung fu is than most of the knuckleheads here and that would be because I actually train authentic kung fu!


you'll probs say everyone else is wrong anyway :rolleyes:

It is amazing how you MMAist kickboxers generalize about everyone. When you guys don't agree with someone then it is "everyone".:rolleyes:


its not me it must be wait no it can't be i cant believe it......EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT FROM ME IS JUST PLAIN WRONG IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW:rolleyes:

Correction,"everyone else who is an MMA ists and makes uninformed comments on authentic kung fu is WRONG!" See, that is simple even for you and your legendary "brain"!

Now, be a good boy and stick to your promise and have me on ignore and while you are there say hello to our legendary "warrior" Sanjuro ronin.

[Hardwork108]

Then you're still a d-bag, d-bag.

David Jamieson, I believe that kansuke just referred to you as a Diamond Bag. :)

[Hardwork108]

ok so heres the gang of people that hate HW according to HW
sanjuro
lkfmdc
kansuke

heres the results of the poll
7 people thing its "gene ching trolling the forum" which is obviously tongue in cheek but still recognise you as a TROLL
3 people voted "this forum needs fools like hardwork"
so thats 3 people who think you a fool
4 people said "he's a fool but i have him on ignore"
so thast 7 people who say your a FOOL
and an almight 9 PEOPLE SAY YOUR A FOOL AND SHOULD BE BANNED
ok so lets total this
thats a grand total of 33 people who hold a negative view on you


are they all part of this "mma tough guy gang then?"


33 people on this forum think your a fool and a troll
mr popular arent we :D

That is a good figure considering, and this is a fact, that most people who post here are either Mckung fu trained or Knuckleheads such as yourself.:)

[Hardwork108]

i havent needed one
That is what they all say.

Ok prove it and "find" the ignore button.


if your not going full contact then you dont know ****

Then why don't you go and challenge some kung fu sifus and beat them up and prove it. Dont forget your camera and the vaseline of course.;)



video your REAL KUNG FU or stfu
If you want real kung fu, then do what others do go and practice!!!

You won't learn anything from videos.

[golden arhat]

That is a good figure considering, and this is a fact, that most people who post here are either Mckung fu trained or Knuckleheads such as yourself.:)

how do you know this ?

how can you even claim to know this when you have knowledge of literally no one here :confused:

you were banned once alrady why try again?

[golden arhat]

You won't learn anything from videos.

i'm not interested in learning if you have the balls to go fight a professional martial arts fighter use your real kung fu and prevail then maybe just maybe i'l take what you say seriously

till then stop making a fool of yourself

[lkfmdc]

most people who post here are either Mckung fu trained or Knuckleheads such as yourself.:)

LMFAO... pathetic little troll, now teh entire forum is against him :D

[Hardwork108]

how do you know this ?

how can you even claim to know this when you have knowledge of literally no one here :confused:

It is called the Mcdojo/kung fu phenomenom. It is a well known phenomenom but obviously not by your good self.

There are good kung fu posters here but they are not in the majority and of course you don´t need me to tell you that you, nor your MMA friends here are amongst them.


you were banned once alrady why try again?

Well I am not trying, it is lkfmdc who is doing his best to get me banned and hence save his forum "reputation", by crying to Gene every opportunity he gets.;)


P.S. What happened to your ignore button? Haven´t you found it yet? Maybe you should PM Sanjuro ronin the master in the "art of hiding" to help you find it.

Sheesh! I know there are good people practicing MMA out there but people like you and the rest of your friends make me think that most MMA school require you to be a dishonest prat before you can join them.

Why can´t you be the exception and stick to your word and use the ignore button? How long are you going to make an idiot out of yourself?

I tell you what, it seems that you are happy with your MMA and you "think" it is the "Best". Then good and I am happy for you and your ever diminishing neurons. I am just hoping you and those of your persuasion would go and compare the size of their punchbags in an MMA forum or at least in the MMA threads (not the kung fu threads that you guys turn into MMA!).

That way, you guys will be happy and those of us who practice kung fu for real will also have that same privilage.

[Hardwork108]

i'm not interested in learning if you have the balls to go fight a professional martial arts fighter

Why should I fight a professional martial arts fighter. I don´t train professionaly, as I am not unemployed and living off the state. No one is going to pay me to train professionally full time in kung fu.

Even if I did train full time it would not be to prove anything to you knuckleheads. Try to understand that statement without hurting your head too much.

Who pays for your training, the State?


use your real kung fu and prevail then maybe just maybe i'l take what you say seriously
I have used my kung fu to prevail and in many ways I am using my kung fu to prevail everyday. That is something that knuckleheads like you will never understand.


till then stop making a fool of yourself

By the way, I am still waiting for the video of you challenging a real kung fu sifu in Chinatown and getting your well lubricated video camera installed up your asz by that same sifu (take two cameras, just in case you are confused!).

[Hardwork108]

Hey, why don't you guys get your own hate thread.

this one was made special for me so that kansuke could rant about what a douche bag i am.

show some manners for cripes sake.


:p

Did he mean douche bag and not Diamond Bag? :confused:

Well I knew that it was too much to hope for as for a minute I thought that Kansuke had come to his senses :p

[EarthDragon]

Hey, why don't you guys get your own hate thread.

this one was made special for me so that kansuke could rant about what a douche bag i am.

show some manners for cripes sake.

LOL you frickin kill me sometimes david.. I needed a laugh..thanks brother

[lkfmdc]

Hey, why don't you guys get your own hate thread.

this one was made special for me so that kansuke could rant about what a douche bag i am.

show some manners for cripes sake.


:p

what this thread shows is that "hardwork" is truly the biggest douche bag of all time

(Jamieson runs crying into the other room)

[golden arhat]

Who pays for your training, the State?


my dad pays for me to train, i'm 17 sorry i havent got a full time job and a mortgage

it shouldnt matter if your a professional fighter you have the "real" kung fu right ? so get out there and take names


lol i think its funny that in my gym we've taken half of the students away from kung fu masters (we're right near china town) but i cnat back it up because you dont know the MA community here in manchester

as i've already explained to you here most of the forum are not kickboxers nor are they mma'ists or knuckleheads most people here practise kung fu talk to them maybe they'l tell you and thenm maybe you'l jump to the conclusion and they must really be kickboxers for daring to challenge what you say


and i didnt ignore you because what you say is too funny XD as i already explained

remember this gang of mma'ists who are out to get you doesnt exist
an entire group of 33 people who certainly arent mma'ists dislike you and wish you would dissapear
how does that feel?

[golden arhat]

Well I am not trying, it is lkfmdc who is doing his best to get me banned and hence save his forum "reputation", by crying to Gene every opportunity he gets.;)




oh yes its everyone elses fault you got banned :rolleyes:



define "real kung fu"

[Kansuke]

my dad pays for me to train, i'm 17 sorry i havent got a full time job and a mortgage



You're 17?! You're a well-spoken young man!




You really should at least have a part-time job by now though.

[golden arhat]

You're 17?! You're a well-spoken young man!




You really should at least have a part-time job by now though.

no one can get a job right now, everyones getting laid off

and thankyou! :D

[Kansuke]

Alright then, what the hell is wrong with Man-City? Haven't you people ever heard of steroids?

[wetwonder]

bump . . . . . . . . .

[1bad65]

it shouldnt matter if your a professional fighter you have the "real" kung fu right ? so get out there and take names

Considering he won't even post videos of himself sparring, asking him to step up and fight professionally is a bit of a stretch. ;)

[EarthDragon]

tell me if this helps with all this internet arguing

[golden arhat]

tell me if this helps with all this internet arguing

we have a good 90% of those on this thread all from like one party imparticular

[Exadon]

we have a good 90% of those on this thread all from like one party imparticular

What are you talking about, get a life. You are just pushing an agenda.
-FREEDOM OF SPEECH!-STFU and so on.

[EarthDragon]

LOL I liked the bingo cartoon thought it was approprate

[Kansuke]

There are good kung fu posters here but they are not...


...not you

[Hardwork108]

my dad pays for me to train, i'm 17 sorry i havent got a full time job and a mortgage

Well at least you have a good dad (even if he should wash your mouth with soap once in a while ;)) and hats off to him.


it shouldnt matter if your a professional fighter you have the "real" kung fu right ?
Christ!

You are soooo lost. Do you really think that real kung fu training is about going out and beating people up to "prove" something to some internet nobodies?

Real kung fu refers to how you train your kung fu, that is wether you train it the way it was meant to and to a level where you begin to understand its core essence and hence don´t go on making idiotic statements about it.


so get out there and take names
Take them where? LOL!



lol i think its funny that in my gym we've taken half of the students away from kung fu masters (we're right near china town)

Well they probably did not have the -as you say in Manchester- the "bottle" for authentic kung fu training or maybe they were lacking attention span?;)


but i cnat back it up

So what else is new?



because you dont know the MA community here in manchester

From the little that I have seen, I am not sure if I want to know the MA community in Manchester...:D


as i've already explained to you here most of the forum are not kickboxers nor are they mma'ists or knuckleheads most people here practise kung fu

If most kung fu kwoons can be classified as Mc Kwoons here in the West then most people here would fall within those statistics as well and a lot of the stuff that they post reflects this.

Add to that the fact that besides training Mckung fu most of these people train up to a dozen (often irrelevant to kung fu) martial arts then what you have is MA population of mainly MMA-ists and essenctially kickboxers, with a "flirting" knowledge of kung fu most of whom, by the way, act like knuckleheads.



talk to them
I have talked to them and that is why I am still laughing.


maybe they'l tell you and thenm maybe you'l jump to the conclusion and they must really be kickboxers for daring to challenge what you say

They are what they are and many of them do not even deny that they are MMA-ists. Just like you don´t!

Question is how long are we going to discuss Bjj and kickboxing techniques everytime someone "dares" to raise a question about ACTUAL kung fu training?



and i didnt ignore you because what you say is too funny

But it is funny at your expense.:D


remember this gang of mma'ists who are out to get you doesnt exist

You really should start reading some profiles before you make irresponsible statements.


an entire group of 33 people who certainly arent mma'ists dislike you and wish you would dissapear

Again, I know that you would not know a real kung fu discussion if it fell on your head but you really should check the profiles of the people about whom you are making so many positive assumptions.


how does that feel?

It feels great as I am not here to impress MMA knuckleheads by "proving" my kung fu by posting YouTube video clips:rolleyes:.

There are authentic kung fu practitioners here who recognize the kung fu in my posts and that is because, surprise, surprise they dedicatedly practice kung fu!

They may not be "impressed" by the way I engage in discussions with your kind but they still know that I practise kung fu.

The rest of you are here to sell the "MMA is best" message and it is getting tiring.

What you guys should do is go and post in an MMA forum and exchange your knowledge with others of similar MA practice.

[Hardwork108]

oh yes its everyone elses fault you got banned :rolleyes:

You missed the point yet again.:rolleyes:




define "real kung fu"

I have defined it before and I would define it again but you would not understand. People like you never do.

Besides, the best way to understand the definition of kung fu is by training it and not by reading about it on the internet.

By now we all know that it is not "within" you to train anything as profound as kung fu with any credible dedication, so stick to MMA which makes you happy, but don´t for one minute think that you are practising kung fu!!!

[Hardwork108]

Considering he won't even post videos of himself sparring, asking him to step up and fight professionally is a bit of a stretch. ;)
:rolleyes:

[Hardwork108]

we have a good 90% of those on this thread all from like one party imparticular


What are you talking about, get a life. You are just pushing an agenda.
-FREEDOM OF SPEECH!-STFU and so on.

Thanks Exadon :)

You and I should be impressed that golden arhat has managed to count up to 90! ;)

You are right about the agenda. Him and his forum friends are here to sell the MMA is best agenda.

Funnily enough when I talk about traditional kung fu in this KUNG FU FORUM the MMA ists accuse me (among other things) of having an "agenda".:rolleyes:

HW8:)

[Hardwork108]

we have a good 90% of those on this thread all from like one party imparticular

Then stop posting them, little boy!

[Hardwork108]

what this thread shows is that "hardwork" is truly the biggest douche bag of all time

(Jamieson runs crying into the other room)
And lkfmdc runs crying to Gene....

[Exadon]

Thanks Exadon :)

You and I should be impressed that golden arhat has managed to count up to 90! ;)

HW8:)

hah well I was just making a joke based on that bingo card that was posted. Everything I said came right from the bingo card

but yeah I try not to take sides, unless someone post an "Exadon sucks" thread. Then I will join the band wagon and bash myself to hell

[golden arhat]

thanks exadon :)

you and i should be impressed that golden arhat has managed to count up to 90! ;)

you are right about the agenda. Him and his forum friends are here to sell the mma is best agenda.

Funnily enough when i talk about traditional kung fu in this kung fu forum the mma ists accuse me (among other things) of having an "agenda".:rolleyes:

Hw8:)
ahahahah are you that stupid

can you not recognise sarcasm in its simplest form??? Ahahahah

[Hardwork108]

ahahahah are you that stupid

can you not recognise sarcasm in its simplest form??? Ahahahah

Can you not "recognize" the difference between sarcasm and irony?

[Hardwork108]

...but yeah I try not to take sides, unless someone post an "Exadon sucks" thread. Then I will join the band wagon and bash myself to hell

LOL!

But then I will be taking your side, against you?:confused:

Seriously though, from what I have seen here regarding kung fu calibre, if you ever see a "Exadon sucks" thread, then take it as a compliment.;) :)

[Yum Cha]

must....un...subscribe....from...thread......sucki ng....intelligence.....from....my....mind....


daisy, daisy, giiiivvvv meeeeeeee yourrrrrrr an-serrrrrrrr.......

[David Jamieson]

must....un...subscribe....from...thread......sucki ng....intelligence.....from....my....mind....


daisy, daisy, giiiivvvv meeeeeeee yourrrrrrr an-serrrrrrrr.......

please ...don't do that ....dave


lol

[Yum Cha]

please ...don't do that ....dave


lol

:d

123456789

[Hardwork108]

must....un...subscribe....from...thread......sucki ng....intelligence.....from....my....mind....


daisy, daisy, giiiivvvv meeeeeeee yourrrrrrr an-serrrrrrrr.......


LOL! I know the feeling.

By the way, hats off to you. Pak mei is an awsome style of kung fu.:)

[golden arhat]

LOL! I know the feeling.

By the way, hats off to you. Pak mei is an awsome style of kung fu.:)

not that you know anything abouthim or how he trains....oh well.

[Hardwork108]

not that you know anything abouthim or how he trains....oh well.

Good point.

However he had enough sense to go for a good style of kung fu and is contributing in a KUNG FU forum unlike you MMA-ists who are here to preach the "greatness" of the MMA approach and turn every kung fu thread into a kickboxing one.

You guys should really share your MMA "wisdom" in an MMA forum. It is logical and fare.

Do you understand the point, now?......Oh well.:rolleyes:

[1bad65]

Dude, don't you get it? You have ZERO credability because you won't put up proof you know what you're talking about.

Look at it this way: If I got on car forums and talked about how no one knew the 'real shifting', they were all shifting wrong, and I knew how to do it. If I didn't post video of me racing my car, or timeslips from the track, or had people vouch for me, I'd have no credability.

[Hardwork108]

Dude, don't you get it? You have ZERO credability because you won't put up proof you know what you're talking about.

What you don´t get is that the zero credibility is yours as you and many others here do not practise kung fu and hence do not have the ability to differentiate authentic kung fu practise from a none authentic one.

Furthermore, I couldn´t care less if you and your kickboxer friends do not give me kung fu credibility....lol.

The important point here is that there authentic kung fu practioners here that know what I am talking about by merely reading my posts. That is what is important for me and not what some MMA-ists think about my authentic kung fu.


Look at it this way: If I got on car forums and talked about how no one knew the 'real shifting', they were all shifting wrong, and I knew how to do it. If I didn't post video of me racing my car, or timeslips from the track, or had people vouch for me, I'd have no credability.

That was a bad example, it really was!!!

[Songshan]

Do you see all this trouble you started David Jamieson?....:D

[Kansuke]

What you don´t get is that the zero credibility is yours as you and many others here do not practise kung fu and hence do not have the ability to differentiate authentic kung fu practise from a none authentic one.



The two-year grandmaster speaks again!

[1bad65]

The important point here is that there authentic kung fu practioners here that know what I am talking about by merely reading my posts.

Name one. Then have him come here and vouch for you.

[Kansuke]

well, technically I didn't start anything.




No? I can see that you are in need of enlightenment, like all of your woefully ignorant countrymen. Travel! Travel, you d-bag! I know that no one from your provincial little backwater country ever has, and that is the only hope for you and yours to open your eyes to THE TRUTH! It's not too late, you poor blinded fool, to join the ranks of the worldly and wise.

[Kansuke]

Are you on the way to the airport now? Remember not to fly first class or stay in four star hotels.

[Hardwork108]

mmmm, I remember my summer in France it was sweet. England was lovely too.

where you been?

Man you sure hang onto anger eh? lol. poor you.

anyway, stuff to do ta ta now l:)


Well I happen to know that he has been to China, but didn´t learn any kung fu; He has been to Japan, but didn´t learn Karate; He has travelled most of the world but hasn´t learnt any manners.

I know that he hasn´t been to Colombia though and that is because with his attitude he would have been beaten to death in the airport and wouldn´t have made it through the customs.

Oh unkokusai please visit Colombia, the weather is so good down here.;)

[Kansuke]

mmmm, I remember my summer in France it was sweet. England was lovely too.



Oh, that must have been nice, seeing as you people like to pretend you are European anyway. I wonder what mysteries you uncovered in those exotic lands.

[Kansuke]

I know that he hasn´t been to Colombia though and that is because with his attitude he would have been beaten to death in the airport and wouldn´t have made it through the customs.

Oh unkokusai please visit Colombia, the weather is so good down here.



Oh, it must be dangerous if a terror like you, who has a whole two years of training and has never been in a fight in his life, beyond the struggle with reality you keep losing, can survive there.

[golden arhat]

He has travelled most of the world but hasn´t learnt any manners.



you cant really talk about manners can you....

[Kansuke]

Well it's like when you pretend to be male.



Ah, that must be some of that there 'enlightened' humor. Did you learn that in England, or France?

[golden arhat]

Ah, that must be some of that there 'enlightened' humor. Did you learn that in England, or France?

hey dont drag the motherland into this ahah

[Kansuke]

Your jokes are getting worse and worse, champ. You'd better head over to Paris and watch some more Jerry Lewis films.

[MasterKiller]

actually you're mom told me...after her mouth wasn't full anymore.. She snowball you...?

[Kansuke]

hey dont drag the motherland into this ahah



It's ok, I'm sure he got his hilarious humor and charming attitude in Paris somewhere.

[golden arhat]

It's ok, I'm sure he got his hilarious humor and charming attitude in Paris somewhere.

thats better , when in doubt ridicule the french! ahah the worlds whipping boy

[bakxierboxer]

hey dont drag the motherland into this ahah


"Drag"?
"Motherland"?

I hope this isn't what yer talkin' 'bout....

OTOH, they DID have to show it in "gay Pareee"

[Kansuke]

See this is typical dumb american comments.


the likes of you and your ignoramus comrades.

really, get out there and see the world, educate yourself and you'll be a better person for it



There ya go champ, show everyone exactly what I have been saying about you...

[lkfmdc]

most people on this forum know where i'm coming from.


Canada




They know what I say light heartedly and what I am serious about.


light heated = kung fu

dead serious = aliens, the free mason conspiracy, Bush's nazi past, dictatorship of the proletariat




so me, antagonizing you is done out of gratitude towards this forum, it's members and owners. intention is important in everything. :)



We all know you are just Gene Ching in disguise!

[Kansuke]

most people on this forum know where i'm coming from.



I know I do. You are a self-deluded, pretentious d-bag.

[Kansuke]

It kind of works that way when you have a presence somewhere for a long time.

Myself and a few others have been here since the beginning .




Yeah, I just got here... :rolleyes:

[Kansuke]

so me, antagonizing you is done out of gratitude towards this forum, it's members and owners.


Oh, you are a hero! Being a d-bag, not for yourself, but for the sake of others!


:rolleyes:

[BoulderDawg]

I'm going to dedicate this next song to Kansuke.....I'm sure he can relate...that is if he actually had the guts to say this in public:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48

[Kansuke]

Gee, thanks comrade...