health benefits of urine

[Newb]

Yang Liansheng, professor from the Liaoning Institute of Traditional Chinese Medicine sure thinks so! He says "Urine contains no bacterium and is more sanitary than blood".



Three million Chinese drink their own urine
http://www.expressindia.com/news/june1/world5.html



Urine Therapy is pretty popular, just do a search for it and you'll see tons of sites. So....the question remains to you all...will you drink your own warm pee?

[herb ox]

i prefer mine on the rocks, stirred, not shaken :D

Seriously, though, urine of an undiseased human is supposedly sterile, although it is a perfect growth medium for bacteria, so don't leave your pee sitting around for a long time before imbibing.

I have a buddy who's Ayurvedic doctor instructed him to urinate on a persistent rash on his arm. If I remember correctly, the rash cleared up.

Commoners of old in Europe used to hide under the outhouse to catch and drink the urine of the wealthy who were eating the famed Fly Agaric mushroom - the metabolites apparently were still quite potent to produce a hallucinogenic trip.

I'm curious to see if Gene Ching catches this thread... or should I say 'stream'?:eek:

brother ox

[tug]

I do know that if you are stung by a jellyfish, you are supposed to urinate on the sting. (If no other help is available)

But to drink a waste product from your own body? Never. I don't care how many studies are done to prove it safe, I don't care how many people tell me it's good for you, and I don't care who those people might be.

NI!!

[FngSaiYuk]

Urine is great against athlete's foot. Just pee on your feet when you shower... simple and very effective.

[Hau Tien]

Originally posted by herb ox
Commoners of old in Europe used to hide under the outhouse to catch and drink the urine of the wealthy who were eating the famed Fly Agaric mushroom - the metabolites apparently were still quite potent to produce a hallucinogenic trip.


The amanita muscaria is actually safer to consume in the form of the urine of someone (or something.. Russians used to use reindeer urine) who has already eaten the mushroom and filtered out the "bad stuff".

So get yourself a huge cup of psychedelic pee! WOO!

[tug]

I've never had a problem with athlete's foot.:rolleyes:

[Newb]

Originally posted by tug
I've never had a problem with athlete's foot.:rolleyes:


I have! It happens when I don't do the laundry for a while. =P

[herb ox]

so do your laundry... and pee in the shower! :D

[GeneChing]

I'm curious to see if Gene Ching catches this thread... or should I say 'stream'? Thanks herbox (he only said this because we've discussed it during some drunken rant on our adventures, no doubt).

Urine therapy goes back a long way, some even say it's biblical.

"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well. Should your springs be scattered abroad, streams of water in the streets? Let them be for yourself alone, and not for strangers with you. Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth" (Proverbs 5:15-18 RSV) I've always interpreted this as advice against adultery, but within the ****-drinking circles, they say otherwise Of course, they drink ****, so what can you say? There was a great article in Yoga Journal several years ago on this. If you're really interested, that's where I'd look.

And no, I've never experimented with this and have no intention to do so.

[herb ox]

GeneChing's quote:
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"Drink water from your own cistern, flowing water from your own well. Should your springs be scattered abroad, streams of water in the streets? Let them be for yourself alone, and not for strangers with you. Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth" (Proverbs 5:15-18 RSV)
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I don't know how you find this stuff, but you obviously have been reading your chapter a day. Regardless, you're assertions have weight as this article (http://origin.sundayobserver.lk/2002/01/06/fea16.html) sprinkles some golden light on the situation!

3 tumblers a day keeps the doctor away! (and your friends and lovers too!)

:p h.ox.

[FngSaiYuk]

Originally posted by herb ox
... Regardless, you're assertions have weight as this article (http://origin.sundayobserver.lk/2002/01/06/fea16.html) sprinkles some golden light on the situation!

3 tumblers a day keeps the doctor away! (and your friends and lovers too!)


dayum! I hope people use listerine after... ummm... imbibing...

*mental note* be wary of people who's breath smells of urine...

[Newb]

I'm soo tempted to get a mug and have some 'alone time'.

[GeneChing]

Well, Marley's ain't the only one to lift from the Bible. I don't do a chapter a day anymore, but it's one of the great things I enjoy about the internet - multiple translations available and cross referenced. The web is great for scripture, almost as great as it is for porn. ;)

Bless your fountain, everyone!

[Newb]

Anyone know how much urine I should drink?

[FngSaiYuk]

4oz in the morning

[digitalmantis]

I'm torn between should I or shouldn't I? I thought I was pretty extrememe but ...not too sure I want to ingest my own waste.

[Newb]

*puts away 2gallon container*

[tug]

If its already IN you, why put it back? And if you are alone and dehydrated in the desert, wouldn't drinking your urine aggravate the problem?

I guess I will never truly understand as I will NEVER try it.

[GeneChing]

You know, it's not like this is a pressing decision. It's not like you're going to run out of pee...

[FngSaiYuk]

... still waiting to see who's the first to try it and post about it ...

::grin::

[unixfudotnet]

Originally posted by tug
If its already IN you, why put it back? And if you are alone and dehydrated in the desert, wouldn't drinking your urine aggravate the problem?

I guess I will never truly understand as I will NEVER try it.

http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bodily-functions/****ing/drinking-pee/

read that, it has everything pretty much. no, no gross pictures of dead people and stuff, it is all text (mostly, maybe a nsfw drawing on it).

educational anyways... i still will never drink pee, no thanks. i'd have to be deathly ill before that would ever happen, and still then i may not.

if your body needed it, it would keep it.

[FngSaiYuk]

Originally posted by unixfudotnet
http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bodily-functions/****ing/drinking-pee/

read that, it has everything pretty much. no, no gross pictures of dead people and stuff, it is all text (mostly, maybe a nsfw drawing on it).

educational anyways... i still will never drink pee, no thanks. i'd have to be deathly ill before that would ever happen, and still then i may not.

if your body needed it, it would keep it.

Here's the working link- http://tinyurl.com/2x8xu

[Newb]

This thread makes me want to vomit. You're all sick.

[FngSaiYuk]

Originally posted by Newb
This thread makes me want to vomit. You're all sick.

So did you try 4oz, or did you start vomiting at less?

[Newb]

...vomited.


j/k still haven't tried it =P

What happens if you just injaculated? Would you also be drinking sea men as well?

[tug]

Uh, yeah. Ugh. I can't believe we're still talking about this.

[FuXnDajenariht]

yeeshus....do qigong...take vitamins! anything! lol im thinking your body is expelling it for a reason? :o

[herb ox]

...don't even get me started...

:D

[old jong]

Why not use a fermentation process and make wine out of the it?...It could accompany **** very well!:eek:

[kull]

drink away

[Shaolin Dude]

what else can be treated with urine?

[GeneChing]

I remember reading that it was good for sea urchin quills, which I imagine is akin to jellyfish stings mentioned in an earlier post. For some reason, I think I read that in an Ian Fleming James Bond book.

It's also good for hangovers. If your buddy is lying supine with a hangover and you pee on his head, he won't even be thinking about his hangover anymore. I tried it on herbox once, but it was back when he wore full dreadlocks. They acted like a big sponge so it had no effect. He never even woke up. ;)

[tug]

Yeah, I did that once. Once. Then I got my azz handed to me. But he did forget about his hangover!

[herb ox]

Ever wonder why my locks smelled so good?

Now everyone knows....;)

[GeneChing]

...if you ever get a hangover, just give me a ring and I'd be happy to cure it for ya. :p

[herb ox]

Gene....


did you notice how there were no posts in this forum since we had our little exchange about your urinating on my dome... frankly I'm a little concerned ;)

golden ox

[GeneChing]

...maybe we should have kept it our little secret. Just like that time when... oh nevermind. :eek:

[uki]

recently i have been delving into natural remedies that help dissolve blood clots and promote cardiovascular health when i stumbled upon this article... http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html. apparently the kidneys produce an emzyme called urokinase which activates plasminogen directly, which is used to dissolve blood clots in the arteries and veins... unfortunately the only way to naturally ingest this emzyme is by drinking your own urine.

urokinase definition... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/619955/urokinase

plasminogen definition... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/463603/plasminogen

comments anyone?

[SimonM]

I could totally make some sort of comment about Uki's great fondness for watersports here.

Oh wait, I just did. :p

[uki]

I could totally make some sort of comment about Uki's great fondness for watersports here.

Oh wait, I just did. :phardy har har... this was to be a serious thread yo, now you had to go and ruin it. :)

synthetically producing urokinase is a muti-billion dollar industry and yet here it is produced naturally in ones own body. just think of all the people who cannot afford the big pharm brands to treat their problems relating to blood clot formations.

[taai gihk yahn]

recently i have been delving into natural remedies that help dissolve blood clots and promote cardiovascular health when i stumbled upon this article... http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html. apparently the kidneys produce an emzyme called urokinase which activates plasminogen directly, which is used to dissolve blood clots in the arteries and veins... unfortunately the only way to naturally ingest this emzyme is by drinking your own urine.

urokinase definition... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/619955/urokinase

plasminogen definition... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/463603/plasminogen

comments anyone?
the use of urine, either internally or externally, has been documented in various cultures; in Taoist practice, my teacher has mentioned that the "formula" is the urine of a pre-adolescent boy - evidently something to do with it not containing the degree of hormone found later (hey, I don't claim anything, just reporting what I was told); ostensibly this is supposed to be a great "tonic"; others advocate only using one's own urine, not someone else's; personally, although I have never done it, I know of one guy who was a long-time and high-level ba gua practitioner who claimed that he did this on a regular basis; one claim he made was that it helped him one time when he had a tooth go septic and he eschewed the use of anti-biotics, using, as he put it, "formula p" and a combination of herbs such as golden seal, echinacea and myrrh; again, just reporting what I heard, not condoning or condemning either way, just info for the thread;

intuitively, the concept in general does not strike me as inherently implausible - for example, there may be some sort of endocrinological feedback loop associated with ingestion of urine as a way for the system to self-regulate, I don't know - I should get my wife's opinion and do a little Medline research about it perhaps...

[sanjuro_ronin]

*shakes head*
I don't even know where to begin...
First urine, then what?
Eating your own boogers?
Curry layden fecal matter?
Indonesian food ??
:eek:

[uki]

*shakes head*atleast you are keeping your neck in shape... unless of course it is just another knee jerk reaction when starting a post you do not agree with, much like davids lol at the end of every post(i imagine this jolly fellow jiggling in his chair).


I don't even know where to begin...well this and the shaking your head was a start.


First urine, then what?any suggestions? i am sure our girlfriends might be interested in the nutritional value of the other discharge from ones schlong. :)


Eating your own boogers?actually everytime you suck your snot it amounts to eating a booger of sorts...


Curry layden fecal matter?fecal matter is the bodies real waste... if it weren't the case, we'd have thousands of years of cultural proof that it is beneficial to ones health, yet we do not, most people agree it is simply poop.

Indonesian food ??are you knocking indonesian food? i must admit that mei fun is not quite the gourmet food of choice, but it's edible nonetheless.

a few more links to the subject...

http://www.heartlandhealing.com/page...apy/index.html

http://www.biocircuits.info/index_files/urinetherapy.htm

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/urine-therapy

http://www.hps-online.com/hurine3.htm

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm

[uki]

some more info... it seems that drinking urine for health purposes has been practiced for thousands of years...

http://guardians-of-the-earth.blogspot.com/2007/09/healing-cancer-part-6-urine-therapy.html

http://yoga.omgyan.com/cure/Urine-Therapy.html

http://www.garynull.com/documents/spectrum/urine_therapy.htm

http://www.innerself.com/Health/urine.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I7Cj6tRXmE

http://www.detox.net.au/articles/detox/urine-therapy/history-of-shivambu.html

[TenTigers]

well, I wouldn't suggest you do it after eating asparagus. ><

[TenTigers]

I have also heard in TCM using the urine of pre-pubescent boys as an astringent among other things.
If ya don't wanna end up on Gene's "Busted Sifus" thread, I suggest you don't ask your students parents for their kids' pee.
Witch Hazel might be a safer bet.

[AdrianK]

First urine, then what?
Eating your own boogers?
Curry layden fecal matter?
Indonesian food ??

I was actually getting hungry before you mentioned that last one!

[uki]

I have also heard in TCM using the urine of pre-pubescent boys as an astringent among other things.which makes one wonder just how traditional, traditional truly is these days...

[David Jamieson]

There are some drawbacks.

First, let's not forget that it is effluence. It is waste that the body doesn't want. That is the natural thing.

If you have any form of hepatitis, and you never know, you just might in this day and age and not even know it (get a check up) then any usefulness you might of thought urine had as a consumable is rendered inert.

Otherwise, it is fairly sterile but doesn't have anything in it that you don't have in you anyway, and so, there aren't any rock solid and clear benefits to it's consumption.

If there was, we'd all be having a big frothy glass of our own pizz daily don't ya think?

[uki]

It is waste that the body doesn't want. That is the natural thing.actually it is the excess nutrients that the body does not need at the time... the true waste byproducts are absorbed into the intestinal tract and eliminated with your poop. urine is nothing more than filtered blood... as far as what i am reading about the topic anyways.

perhaps modern taboo(most likely due to religious dogma) is a key factor in perpetrating the misinformation? it seems like it is still practiced in certain cultures to this day...

[Doc Stier]

This topic always seems to put people in a pi*sy mood. :D

Doc

[taai gihk yahn]

This topic always seems to put people in a pi*sy mood. :D

Doc

groan

but seriously, Doc - any thoughts on the topic?

[SimonM]

\
perhaps modern taboo(most likely due to religious dogma) is a key factor in perpetrating the misinformation? it seems like it is still practiced in certain cultures to this day...

I am 100% free of religious dogma - being rather anti-religious - and I still think drinking pee is gross.

[uki]

this is the article that i could not link here because the filter takes out the word p!ss... i never knew p!ss was so offensive to people and this site claims to be hard trained tough martial artists... everyone takes a pee for petes sake. grow some thick skin you wimps. :)

Contrary to earlier reports, it now appears that troublesome equipment recently installed aboard the International Space Station (ISS) to reprocess astronaut urine into drinkable water is still not working. Worried NASA chiefs intend to rush replacement golden-beverage equipment into space on the next shuttle flight.


Aviation Week brings the news that the drum-shaped Urine Processor Assembly (UPA) urinal/watercooler combo unit remains recalcitrant. It seems that the new wave of double-strength space station crews will be dependent on water supplies from the space shuttle to survive until new kit can be fitted.

In theory one might ship up drinking-water supplies aboard Russian Soyuz or European "Jules Verne" supply craft - or indeed the new wave of private-industry vessels, such as tech kingpin Elon Musk's planned "Dragon" capsule. However this would involve more extra weight than one might think, as in fact the current shuttles don't need to carry large amounts of water up with them at present.

Rather, the ISS' water tanks are apparently replenished mainly using water produced as an exhaust product of the shuttles' fuel-cell powered electrical systems, an option which wouldn't be available with other visiting spacecraft.

Av Week quotes Mike Suffredini, NASA ISS chief, as saying that shuttle flights will be essential to prevent an upsetting personal-hygiene and/or refreshments crisis among the new six-person crews unless the UPA and its companion water-harvesting machinery can be got working. As the shuttles are planned to retire next year, this presents something of a watershed in the ISS' history.

However Suffredini says that a new and improved UPA golden-barrel unit will be shipped up to the station on the very next flight, STS-119 by shuttle Discovery, currently subject to unrelated delays. This will allow the planned sampling process - held up by the current, unserviceable drinks dispenser - to proceed and the new era of self-sustaining space explorers to be ushered in.

"We'll have to get more water from the shuttle than we would normally require, but that's not an issue," Suffredini told the magazine.

"We need a little time to sort through the anomalies. We'd like to get the distillation system working and processing all the water we can to save upmass."

There was no word on the proposed fate of the original UPA, said to have cost - along with its companion water-harvesting equipment - $250m to develop. ISS astronauts have in the past shown themselves willing to simply dump surplus equipment into the Earth's atmosphere, regardless of any unpleasant contents. ®

all i can say is... wow... now thats a real waste.

[herb ox]

I was going to chime in with some factoids about urophagia (drinking urine) (like only using the middle 1/3 of the stream - the first 1/3 is contaminated with urethral bacteria and the last 1/3 is concentrated... that's the method for gathering the pre-adolescent urine for medicinal consumption.)...

I was going to chime in with some smart-@$$ remarks, too, but I figured I'd just sit back and enjoy the show ;-)

...and wait for Gene to make a comment... (he's expert on these matters, it seems...)

herb ox

PS don't forget about drinking the urine of certain reindeers :D

[uki]

...and wait for Gene to make a comment... (he's expert on these matters, it seems...)i am actually looking forward to it, provided he has not become a victim of being afraid to feed the trolls mentality.


PS don't forget about drinking the urine of certain reindeers.if this were accepted medicine, the job of actually collecting the fresh urine might rank up there with logging and alaskan crabbing. :D

[uki]

whoa now... indias new cow urine soft drink? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article5707554.ece

[Lucas]

whoa now... indias new cow urine soft drink? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article5707554.ece

Yummy!!

I'll definately have to try that out if I can find any in the states when its released. If anything, just so I can say; "ya, i drink cow p!ss, what of it?"

[Lucas]

so i guess drinking your own urine wont only keep you alive longer in the desert, but also if you're stranded in outerspace.

[uki]

so i guess drinking your own urine wont only keep you alive longer in the desert, but also if you're stranded in outerspace.only if NASA's multi-million dollar urine-to-water machine is working. kinda reminds me of all the millions wasted on developing a pen that could write in the weightlessness of space, a feat that russia solved with a 5 cent pencil. :)

[Lucas]

only if NASA's multi-million dollar urine-to-water machine is working. kinda reminds me of all the millions wasted on developing a pen that could write in the weightlessness of space, a feat that russia solved with a 5 cent pencil. :)

lol

everyone knows the germans (http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070919/lepine_320x250.jpg) got the cool pen market cornered anyway

[GreenCloudCLF]

Urine is a waste. It is slightly acidic and made up of urea, it is an irritant which is toxic. If there is an excess of it in the blood stream it can damage organs. Guess what, if you drink it there is a chance for it to get to into the blood stream. Why would you want to drink something that your body doesn't want?

[herb ox]

Urine is a waste product, but not necessarily a waste per se. For example, the new hydrogen fuel cell power generators have a waste product from the reaction of the propane being catalyzed by a platinum mesh. Those products are carbon dioxide and pure water... which also happens to be drinkable.

GreenCloud, there seems to be a bit of a leap in your logic regarding the amount of 'urine getting into your bloodstream'. Ingested, it comes in contact with acid, enzymes and other stuff in the gut, then absorbed slowly thru the walls of the gut itself. The amount of urea actually that makes it into the bloodstream is miniscule for a medicinal dose. However, it is true that urine taken over a period of dehydration (ala Bear Grylls survival style) can alter your electrolyte balance enough to cause organ failure. That's an extreme case, though, and under hydrated conditions, a small cup of pee won't do you no harm :p

have fun with it

herb ox

[GreenCloudCLF]

Urine is a waste product, but not necessarily a waste per se. For example, the new hydrogen fuel cell power generators have a waste product from the reaction of the propane being catalyzed by a platinum mesh. Those products are carbon dioxide and pure water... which also happens to be drinkable.

GreenCloud, there seems to be a bit of a leap in your logic regarding the amount of 'urine getting into your bloodstream'. Ingested, it comes in contact with acid, enzymes and other stuff in the gut, then absorbed slowly thru the walls of the gut itself. The amount of urea actually that makes it into the bloodstream is miniscule for a medicinal dose. However, it is true that urine taken over a period of dehydration (ala Bear Grylls survival style) can alter your electrolyte balance enough to cause organ failure. That's an extreme case, though, and under hydrated conditions, a small cup of pee won't do you no harm :p

have fun with it

herb ox

First: Waste from a manmade machine is different than waste produced by the body.

Second: Your assumption if that the person who is ingesting the urine has a body functioning optimally and is only using small amount of urine of small periods of time. Neither may be true. Consult a physician before starting a urine regimen?

[uki]

First: Waste from a manmade machine is different than waste produced by the body.your right, the man made machine is only as perfect as the man who builds it. :)

Consult a physician before starting a urine regimen?do you ask your doctor when starting a new herbal tea? perhaps herbs are a form of waste from the planet? take a look at digitalis purpurea(foxglove), which is used as source of heart-tonic glycosides. used in modern medicine to increase force of systolic contractions in congestive heart failure; lowers venous pressure in hypertensive heart ailments; elevates blood pressure in a weak heart; diuretic, reduces edema... yet the medicinal dose is 70% of the lethal dose!!

on the upside, you can well imagine that the person who believes his urine to be a form of medicine will most definitely take great care as to what he puts into his body.

[GreenCloudCLF]

take a look at digitalis purpurea(foxglove), which is used as source of heart-tonic glycosides. used in modern medicine to increase force of systolic contractions in congestive heart failure; lowers venous pressure in hypertensive heart ailments; elevates blood pressure in a weak heart; diuretic, reduces edema... yet the medicinal dose is 70% of the lethal dose!!



I would consult with a doctor before taking in a toxic product such as foxglove. How would that be different than urine?

[uki]

I would consult with a doctor before taking in a toxic product such as foxglove.i am quite sure one could manage to figure out the correct dosage without a doctor... they don't call this the information superhighway for nothing and the best part is it's free, besides there are many books on the field...


How would that be different than urine?exactly the point. :)

[GreenCloudCLF]

i am quite sure one could manage to figure out the correct dosage without a doctor... they don't call this the information superhighway for nothing and the best part is it's free, besides there are many books on the field...
exactly the point. :)

Yes I will trust the internet to tell me how much of a potentially deadly item to ingest:rolleyes:

[uki]

Yes I will trust the internet to tell me how much of a potentially deadly item to ingest.i see... you trust the internet when it serves your purpose, interesting.

i am quite sure that anyone who snoops long enough can figure out the correct dosage for nearly everything on the net... for one, there are these things called online colleges, so if someone can pay for brains over the net, i have no doubt someone can also aquire them for free. :)

[GreenCloudCLF]

i see... you trust the internet when it serves your purpose, interesting.

I don't trust the internet. I use it as a source of amusement.


i am quite sure that anyone who snoops long enough can figure out the correct dosage for nearly everything on the net... for one, there are these things called online colleges, so if someone can pay for brains over the net, i have no doubt someone can also aquire them for free. :)

One day perhaps you can be on the list of people with brains.

[GeneChing]

If Lyoto wins, maybe he'll start a trend with UFC fans...

Lyoto Machida’s secret revealed at TATAME (http://www.tatame.com/2009/03/22/Lyoto-Machidas-secret-revealed-at-TATAME) Sunday 22nd of March 2009 01:24 PM
By Guilherme Cruz
Photo Josh Hedges

Undefeated after 14 fights in the career, Lyoto Machida impresses, and it’s the result of hard work. After knocking out Thiago Silva and get his chance for the title against Rashad Evans, the Brazilian revealed his secrets on the trainings to TATAME Magazine’s March issue. For those who think that good trainings happen with academies full of tough fighters, Machida goes for the opposite way.

“My training is with my family, out Karate, and it makes it more easy. If I go out there, maybe I won’t find what I have in Belém any place in the world. I train with guys who live there”, tells Lyoto. Besides telling all his preparation routine, the undefeated fighter revealed a curious tradition in his family, a secret until then: urine therapy. Once in the day, he and his family drinks their own urine. “My father does that for a long time and bring it to us. People think it’s a joke (laughs). I never said it in the United States because I don’t know how the fans will react (laughs). I drink my urine every morning like a natural medicine”, revealed the fighter.

[Dale Dugas]

very common in Indian Ayevedic Medicine.

Not for me though.

I like a nice Oolong in the morning.

[Vajramusti]

very common in Indian Ayevedic Medicine.

Not for me though.

I like a nice Oolong in the morning.
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Not for me either though Ayurveda has many strengths. I am not sure that it is main stream Ayurveda-no pun intended.

Make mine Darjeeling golden orange pekoe,oolong or green tea from China or Japan.

But you can google Morarji Desai. he once was the prime Minister of the Republic of India-was vegetarian and also used urine therapy. he was quite sharp and healthy and lived to be 100!
NOT my favorite politician---too right wing for me.It could be due to the therapy<g>

joy chaudhuri

[photo-master]

http://tcm.cambridgesoft.com/tcm/showcompound.asp?monograph=4475&formgroup=basenp_form_group&dbname=TCM&formmode=edit

I have a dit da jow formula that has REN NIAO (Human Urine) in it. I had to grind it into powder before I brewed the jow.

[TenTigers]

Premarin is the commercial name for compound drug consisting primarily of conjugated estrogens. Isolated from mare's urine (PREgnant MARes' urINe),






hmmm, must be why that chick in the video looks so energetic....

[RonH]

personally, although I have never done it, I know of one guy who was a long-time and high-level ba gua practitioner who claimed that he did this on a regular basis; one claim he made was that it helped him one time when he had a tooth go septic and he eschewed the use of anti-biotics, using, as he put it, "formula p" and a combination of herbs such as golden seal, echinacea and myrrh; again, just reporting what I heard, not condoning or condemning either way, just info for the thread;

TCM is a prescience, but I shake my head at those that choose it over things modern medicine gives, such as antibiotics.


perhaps modern taboo(most likely due to religious dogma) is a key factor in perpetrating the misinformation? it seems like it is still practiced in certain cultures to this day...

Aside from the smell.


If Lyoto wins, maybe he'll start a trend with UFC fans...

Maybe as a way to keep people from fighting you.

'I'm not stepping into the ring with that git. He's got **** on his breath.'


Premarin is the commercial name for compound drug consisting primarily of conjugated estrogens. Isolated from mare's urine (PREgnant MARes' urINe)

But, at least it's sterilized.

[Raipizo]

well ok maybe it is good for you but think about it it's waste everything bad from whatever you ate or drank all the toxins and everything is in there and your drinking it again? lol

[TenTigers]

Aside from the smell.

especially if they've eaten asparagus.:p

[Raipizo]

blech thats nasty lol

[GeneChing]

This thread has dominated this TCM forum for several months now. Should we take that as some sort of comment on TCM? :rolleyes:

February 11, 2009
India to launch cow urine as soft drink (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article5707554.ece)
Welcome to your new vending machine...
Jeremy Page, Delhi

Does your Pepsi lack pep? Is your Coke not the real thing? India's Hindu nationalist movement apparently has the answer: a new soft drink made from cow urine.

The bovine brew is in the final stages of development by the Cow Protection Department of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), India's biggest and oldest Hindu nationalist group, according to the man who makes it.

Om Prakash, the head of the department, said the drink – called "gau jal", or "cow water" – in Sanskrit was undergoing laboratory tests and would be launched "very soon, maybe by the end of this year".

"Don't worry, it won't smell like urine and will be tasty too," he told The Times from his headquarters in Hardwar, one of four holy cities on the River Ganges. "Its USP will be that it's going to be very healthy. It won't be like carbonated drinks and would be devoid of any toxins."

The drink is the latest attempt by the RSS – which was founded in 1925 and now claims eight million members – to cleanse India of foreign influence and promote its ideology of Hindutva, or Hindu-ness.

Hindus revere cows and slaughtering them is illegal in most of India. Cow dung is traditionally used as a fuel and disinfectant in villages, while cow urine and dung are often consumed in rituals to "purify" those on the bottom rungs of the Hindu caste system.

In 2001, the RSS and its offshoots – which include the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party – began promoting cow urine as a cure for ailments ranging from liver disease to obesity and even cancer.

The movement has often been accused of using more violent methods, such as killing 67 Christians in the eastern state of Orissa last year, and assaulting women in a pub in Mangalore last month. It also has a history of targeting foreign business in India, as in 1994, when it organised a nationwide boycott of multinational consumer goods, including Pepsi and Coca Cola.

The cola brands are popular in India, now one of their biggest markets, but have struggled in recent years to shake off allegations, which they deny, that they contain dangerous levels of pesticide.

Mr Prakash said his drink, by contrast, was made mainly of cow urine, mixed with a few medicinal and ayurvedic herbs. He said it would be "cheap", but declined to give further details about its price or ingredients until it was officially launched.

He insisted, however, that it would be able to compete with the American cola brands, even with their enormous advertising budgets. "We're going to give them good competition as our drink is good for mankind," he said. "We may also think of exporting it."

[RonH]

Well, TCM is a prescience that should never go away, just like growing herbs and other plants from folk magick to help treat diseases and ailments. They were the starting point of the mass manufacturing of drugs we have today. The new is equally valid as the old. That's why each new study of sun/skin cancer, ointments, food, etc. still go on today, despite all the ones done in the past already. If one set of data was all that was necessary, it wouldn't still be ging on.

[Raipizo]

i have to say if it was going to be good tasting and safe to drink i might be persuaded to try some lol. Hey it's healthier than Coke or Pepsi.

[uki]

i have to say if it was going to be good tasting and safe to drink i might be persuaded to try some lol. so you would only try something if it suits your tastes? then does that mean you won't do anything unless its good enough for you to try? trying is not doing... be a man... it tastes like pee, big deal, woopie-do... do you have what it takes to survive if the situation arises? big men playing big martial artists afraid of taking a swig of their own urine that came from their own body? some folks crack me up... all talk - nothing but ruffled feathers hiding the skinny little birds. i personally had to see what all the fuss was over... it's just pee man and if you are one of the ones who does it daily for the claimed health benefits, you can be sure you'll pay more attention to what you put into your body knowing that you take a drink of it every morning when you wake up. :rolleyes:


Hey it's healthier than Coke or Pepsi.let me guess... you drink coke and pepsi right? :D

*back to our regular scheduled program*

[Raipizo]

well i wouldn't want to because i heard its actually bad for you because its everything bad your body is getting rid of and no i try to limit my intake of pop maybe 2 cans a month lol. i prefer tea.

[herb ox]

where'd you hear that? :D

[Lee Chiang Po]

Pizz is nasty. Nasty. It is a collection of chemicals that the body creates and must be removed. That is why you will die if your kidneys fail unless you have dialasis. However that is spelled. It will build up and kill you. Drinking it is nasty, and if you will put it into your mouth, you should have no qualms about putting the dispenser into your mouth too.

[uki]

That is why you will die if your kidneys fail unless you have dialasis. It will build up and kill you. if i remember correctly, the kidneys filter the blood of impurities accumulated from breath, skin absorbtion, diet, and biological functions... yet... these toxins are absorbed and passed on to intestines to be exited into the feces... yes?

[GeneChing]

the yucky brine ;)

Astronauts toast with water from recycled urine (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/21/MNTO17O6HS.DTL&hw=urine&sn=001&sc=1000)
Seth Borenstein, Associated Press
Thursday, May 21, 2009
(05-21) 04:00 PDT Houston - --

At the international space station, it was one small sip for man and a giant gulp of recycled urine for mankind.

Astronauts aboard the space station celebrated a space first on Wednesday by drinking water that had been recycled from their urine, sweat and water that condenses from exhaled air. They said "cheers," clicked drinking bags and toasted NASA workers on the ground who were sipping their own version of recycled drinking water.

"The taste is great," American astronaut Michael Barratt said. Then as Russian Gennady Padalka tried to catch little bubbles of the clear water floating in front of him, Barratt called the taste "worth chasing."

He said the water came with labels that said: "drink this when real water is over 200 miles away."

The urine recycling system is needed for astronaut outposts on the moon and Mars. It also will save NASA money because it won't have to ship up as much water to the station by space shuttle or cargo rockets.

It's also crucial as the space station is about to expand from three people living onboard to six.

The recycling system had been brought up to the space station in November by space shuttle Endeavour, but it couldn't be used until samples were tested back on Earth and a stuck valve was fixed on Monday.

So when it came time to actually drink up, NASA made a big deal of it.

The three-man crew stood holding their drinks and congratulated engineers in two NASA centers that worked on the system.

"This is something that had been the stuff of science fiction," Barratt said before taking a sip.

NASA deputy space shuttle manager LeRoy Cain called it "a huge milestone."

On the Russian side of the space station, moisture in the air - not urine - is turned into drinking water.

The new system takes the combined urine of the crew from the toilet, moves it to a big tank, where the water is boiled off, and the vapor collected. The rest of contaminants - the yucky brine in the urine - is thrown away, said Marybeth Edeen, the space station's national lab manager who was in charge of the system.

The water vapor is mixed with water from air condensation, then it goes through filters, much like those put on home taps, Edeen said.

When six crew members are aboard it can make about six gallons from urine in about six hours, Edeen said.

Some people may find the idea of drinking recycled urine distasteful, but it is also done on Earth, but with a lot longer time between urine and tap, Edeen said. In space, it takes about a week, she said.

The technology NASA developed for this system has already been used for quick water purification after the 2004 Asian tsunami, Edeen said.

Wednesday's urine celebration included subtle bathroom humor.

"We are happy to have this water work through the system - we're happy to have it work through our systems," Barratt said.

[uki]

those astronauts are wussy's. :p

[Vajramusti]

Gene said:

"If Lyoto wins, maybe he'll start a trend with UFC fans...".
Now Machida has won!!

I will stick to jow.

Joy chaudhuri

[GeneChing]

I can't wait for Machida to market his own power drink...

[sanjuro_ronin]

i can't wait for machida to market his own power drink...

lmao !!!!!!
:d

[uki]

I can't wait for Machida to market his own power drink...with the words... "bottled at the source" on the label. :D

[mickey]

Greetings,

I have tried my own urine and I am still alive. The only thing is that I have been very apologetic, lately.

mickey

[GeneChing]

Welcome to the China Urine Therapy Association: A hilarious encounter with the leader of club who drinks his own wee every single day, claiming it cures everything from tumours, to broken bones... and his own baldness (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196259/Welcome-China-Urine-Therapy-Association-hilarious-encounter-leader-club-drinks-wee-single-day-claiming-cures-tumours-broken-bones-baldness.html)

China Urine Therapy Association's made up of people who drink urine daily
Bao Yafu, head of Wuhan branch, has been drinking it every day since 1972
Mr Bao, 80, claims it cured his canker sores, constipation and his baldness
It had around 400 members when it was formed in 2008, now has over 1,000
Medical experts say urine is the body's waste and it has no health benefits

By Jamie Fullerton In Wuhan, China For Mailonline
Published: 02:12 EST, 14 August 2015 | Updated: 04:45 EST, 14 August 2015

It's mid-morning in the Kangyuyuan residential area in the city of Wuhan, China. Bao Yafu and Yi Dongshan are about to enjoy their first cups of urine of the day.

Having returned from the bathroom of the cluttered China Urine Therapy Association office, they head to the roof terrace clasping newly-filled cups of dark yellow waste liquid, each with a little head of foam on top.

'Delicious! I want more!' says Mr Yi, 61, after enthusiastically taking a sip of his own effluent.

'Mine tastes like light tea,' says Mr Bao, 80, after drinking his.

The pair polish off the rest of the contents of their cups. Mr Yi, who is sporting a fetching pair of knock-off Playboy shoes, splashes a bit around his face with his hands and dribbles some down his stripy shirt.

Since 2010, Mr Bao has been the head of the Wuhan branch of the China Urine Therapy Association, an organisation comprised of people who drink their own urine every day.

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Morning drink: Bao Yafu (pictured) heads up the Wuhan branch of the China Urine Therapy Association, an organisation made up of people who drink their own urine daily

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Refreshing: MailOnline met Mr Bao (right) and Yi Dongshan (left) - another member - as they began their morning with an early cup of urine

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Miracle: Mr Bao (pictured) was introduced to urine therapy in Hong Kong, where the association's main office is based, and says hair started to grow on his bald head after he started it

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Multipurpose: Mr Bao (pictured) doesn't just drink urine, he also washes his eyes, ears and face with it

The association, which is not recognised by China's Ministry of Health, was set up in Hong Kong in 2008, with the Wuhan office opening in 2008. Membership has grown from an early count of around 400 to today's total of roughly 1,000.

Ignoring medical consensus – and anyone who believes that drinking urine is just plain disgusting – members believe that drinking it prolongs life, improves health and can even cure diseases such as cancer.

MailOnline was invited to the office for a closer look at the bizarre practice. The poky apartment certainly gives an indication of how fervently Mr Bao believes in his endeavor.

Urine therapy newsletters are stacked high on a bench and bottles of cloudy yellow liquid are lined up on a coffee table.

Our host explains that he has been drinking urine daily since 1972. He was introduced to the practice by a family in Hong Kong, where the main office of the association is based.

The family claimed that drinking it restored the ailing father of their clan to health.

Mr Bao says that after being convinced to give it a whirl, daily urine doses led to him being cured of constipation and canker sores. Then, he claims, after six months his previously-bald head started sprouting hair again.

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Impressive: Mr Bao demonstrated his age-defying energy for MailOnline at a nearby park

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Taking work home: MailOnline visited the home of Mr Bao, which doubles as the Wuhan branch's office, where bottles of cloudy yellow liquid are lined up on a coffee table (pictured)

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Vintage: On Mr Bao's coffee table sit two vials of two-year-old urine which he has kept as an experiment to test the health benefits of drinking aged effluent

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Outlandish: Mr Bao's (left) tales of miracle cures include a man who was freed from his vegetative state after he regularly drank his son's urine

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Tasty: Mr Yi (pictured) says that he turned to urine drinking after discovering that he had a cancerous tumour on his jaw

While today he happily sips his own urine without gagging or retching, he admits that when he first tried it he was concerned about how it would taste.

'I held the cup for a while then plucked up the courage to drink about 100ml whilst holding my nose,' he says.

'I found that it didn't taste of much, and in fact tasted better than some traditional Chinese medicines. I made it a habit to drink 100ml a day from then, and now I'm on 300ml a day.'

Last year, speaking to the South China Morning Post, nephrology doctor Chen Wenli explained why drinking urine is not beneficial.

'Five per cent of urine is nitrogenous waste, which is mainly urea, while the other 95 per cent is all water,' he said.

He added: 'If the person is ill, there will also be sugar, protein, red and white blood cells and ketone bodies in the urine. Because the toxin dispelled by the body may end up in metabolite products like urine, there is no good in drinking it.'
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[GeneChing]

Now this is a brave reporter. :eek:


MY EXPERIENCE OF URINE THERAPY

I can feel the natural warmth of my urine through the clear plastic cup as I hold it. Bao Yafu, the 80-year-old leader of the China Urine Therapy Association, had asked me to sample my own effluent to help me understand his perspective on life, health and drinking habits more.

'I'm a vegetarian and I don't eat much salt, so my urine doesn't taste too salty or bitter,' he says.

'Some people say their urine tastes like purified water. I suggest that new urine therapy practitioners eat a plum the night before they start, so their urine will taste like plum.

'We can decide the taste of the urine by adjusting our diet. Whether you want apple urine or tea urine, all are available.'

Mr Bao didn't think to give me the plum message ahead of my meeting with him. So, instead of fruity tang, I wonder if my urine is going to taste like the beef stew and Belgian beer I had consumed the previous evening.

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Try anything once: MailOnline's Jamie Fullerton (left) sampled his own urine alongside Mr Bao (centre) and Mr Yi (right)

As much as that taste combination would normally be a pleasant prospect, I find it incredibly hard to take the first sip. But I do it, dry-swallowing a small amount. It tastes of, well… nothing. Just water.

It's a relief but, after my mild gagging has subsided, the lack of a definable taste doesn't make my second sip any easier.

The barrier is, of course, purely psychological. Knowing that what I am drinking was just two minutes ago swirling around in my bladder is a mind hurdle too high to fully clear.

I manage to take another small sip then concede that the full cup just isn't going to go down.

I pour the remaining liquid down the toilet and, while Mr Bao goes about wiping urine over his face, resolve to have a serious conversation with myself about what I'm doing with my life.



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[GeneChing]

In 2013 GP Dr Rob Hicks told MailOnline: 'Over the years many people have claimed health benefits from drinking their own urine, but as far as I'm aware there is no scientific evidence to back-up these claims.

'The kidneys are an efficient filtering system getting rid of what the body doesn't need, so to put this back into the body seems counter-productive.'

But the China Urine Therapy Association's line is that the liquid garners nutrients from blood, so is beneficial. Its official literature reads: 'Urine comes from blood. Its chemical components come from blood and equal those of blood. The urine from a healthy person is sterile.'

In line with this stance, Mr Bao won't entertain any experts' dismissals of his habit. Sitting in the main office room next to the association's wall-mounted official green flag, he waves around a printout of a 2013 Canadian scientific study of the complexity of urine named The Human Urine Metabolome.

He cites the study as justification for the view that urine is far more than just a waste product. His claims about the curing abilities of the liquid, however, are based on dubious anecdotes. They get more outlandish as the morning progresses.

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Turning back the years: He showed off his impressive acrobatic skills to 'prove' how urine has helped him feel young and nimble

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Swing when you're winning: 'People who drink urine appear younger than those who don't,' says Mr Bao (pictured)

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Legends: Mr Bao also claims that an elderly Chinese woman healed her broken ribs by soaking a gauze in urine and placing it on the injured area

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Fetching: Mr Yi, a member of the China Urine Therapy Association, sports a pair of knock-off Playboy shoes as he splashes some urine on his face

Mr Bao says that he knows of an elderly Shanghai woman whose ribs were broken in a violent attack. 'She asked her daughter to buy her a pot and gauze,' he says.

'Then she peed in the pot, soaked the gauze, wrapped it on her ribs then did it again and again for five days.

'An X-ray was done and the ribs were shown to be healed. The doctor asked what treatment she had received and she said, "I won't tell you – you make money, but we don't".'

He shows a photograph of someone he claims is a peasant who used to be in a vegetative state following a brain hemorrhage.

'One of our members went to his house and got him to regularly drink his son's urine,' he says. 'Ten months later he could walk like nothing had happened.'

His friend Mr Yi, who has a job erecting advertising billboards, adds his own story. He says that he turned to urine drinking after discovering that he had a cancerous tumour on his jaw.


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[GeneChing]

A BRIEF HISTORY OF URINE THERAPY

Urine therapy may not have a medical basis in reality, but it does have a long cultural history.

The practice is thought to date back to the Bible era, with the Romans said to be particularly keen on it.

Last century it was brought to wide public awareness in the UK by the alternative medicine advocate John W Armstrong. In his 1945 book The Water Of Life: A Treatise On Urine Therapy Mr Armstrong noted documentation of urine therapy use in 17th Century Britain, writing: 'Urine, extolled by many of the ancients, but misunderstood by the semi‐moderns, now appears in the light of a wonderful reservoir a 12 philtre of pre‐eminent value.' He suggested drinking it daily to maintain health.

The book was an influential tome in the development of urine therapy and found an audience in India, where the practice may have originated from. Books such as Manav Mootra: Auto Urine Therapy by Raojibhai Manibhai, released in 1959, helped keep the practice alive.

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Legacy: Books such as Manav Mootra: Auto Urine Therapy by Raojibhai Manibhai, which was first published in 1959, kept the ancient practice alive

Gandhi was known to be a urine drinker. Likely turned onto the habit by copying figures such as the Indian independence movement leader, musicians such as The Rolling Stones' Keith Richards, The Doors' Jim Morrison and The Beatles' John Lennon were rumoured to have dabbled in it.

Urine therapy survived the hippy era, with figures such as US health guru and radio host Gary Null advocating it in the 1990s. In 1992 Null advised radio listeners to mix urine with orange juice and keep it in the fridge and broadcast interviews with patients who claimed to have been made better by drinking the stuff.

There was enough interest in urine therapy in Hong Kong in 2008 for the China Urine Therapy Association to open there in 2008, with a branch in Wuhan on Mainland China following in 2010. The association now boasts 1,000 members.

Today urine therapy remains a minority pursuit, but there is one use of it that many people have tried: applying it to skin after jellyfish stings to quell the pain. Contrary to popular belief, there is no scientific evidence that this actually works.


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[GeneChing]

13 years ago he was told he needed drastic surgery that would render him dumb and unable to eat solids for six months.

'It was unacceptable – I am a person who loves to speak and smile,' he says. 'I was ready to give up and felt like ending my life in a cave with sleeping pills and alcohol.

'Mr Bao, who I am friends with through exercise sessions in the park, advised me to try urine therapy.

'I didn't feel it was disgusting – for a person who already had feelings of suicide it was an easy thing to do. Since I've been drinking it my tumour has become under control, going from 2cm wide to the size of a small bean.

'I have no problems with blood pressure. Plus, I was fat before and couldn't lose weight no matter how hard I tried, but urine helps clean your intestine so now my weight is standard.'

Most doctors would balk at the idea of using urine therapy to try and cure serious illness. But Mr Bao insists that his anecdotes prove he is on to something.

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Don't look now: Mr Bao, who uses urine to wash his eyes (pictured), told MailOnline: 'I am 80-years-old but my vision is perfect'

He also believes that he might one day push forward knowledge of urine therapy with his own 'experiments'.

He points to the coffee table, on which lies a sealed bottle of dark yellow liquid, another cap-less one with mould inside, and an even more mould-encrusted cup.

'This is an experiment – I've kept urine in these for two years,' he says. 'I'm trying to find out more about the benefits of old urine.

We used to believe that only fresh urine is beneficial, but in 2004 someone from Hong Kong found that old urine can cure constipation.'

Mr Bao doesn't stop at drinking urine – he also washes his eyes, ears and face with it. He demonstrates on the roof terrace, bathing his eyeballs in an eye bath full of fresh urine before slapping a load over his face.

'I do this when I wake up,' he says. 'I am 80-years-old but my vision is perfect. I also use urine to soak my ears.

'You can do so many things with urine, like washing your hair with it.'

He says that he's not worried about getting a reputation for smelling iffy because only stale urine smells bad – and he mainly sticks to the fresh stuff.

He's incredibly sprightly for a man his age – a fact he demonstrates by taking MailOnline to a nearby park to show off acrobatic exercises.

'People who drink urine appear younger than those who don't,' he says, 'Back in 2001 I declared that I want to live until I'm 120.'

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Aroma: Mr Bao is not worried about getting a reputation for smelling bad because he tends to only drink fresh urine which does not give off a bad odour, he claims

Tragedies could be caused if Mr Bao convinced anyone to forgo proper medical treatment for serious illness and turn to urine therapy instead.

But he insists that promoting drinking urine as part of a general healthy lifestyle is his main message, rather than relying on it as a cure.

He is clearly delusional, but his fantastic health in comparison to his age has served to buttress his view that urine is to thank for it.

Furthermore, although delusional, his beliefs are sincere.

The association is a non-profit organisation and costs just 20 Yuan (£2) to join, with the extremely poor given free membership.

It's not a crackpot scam system preying on the ill.

His urine drinking obsession has also given Mr Bao a strong focus in life as well as a big friendship network.

Members often go on holiday together, and Mr Bao proudly shows photos of trips to the beach they've taken.

Clearly, although there is almost certainly no medical benefit in drinking urine, the process of doing so has been good for his mental wellbeing.

'Urine is not here to just cure diseases, rather to help improve your whole body system,' he says.

'I have been drinking urine for 23 years, during which time I've not spent a penny on hospital fees. I am used to it now. It's… tasty!'




Good ol' urineotherapy. Always post-worthy. :)

[GeneChing]

...because it's Friday, and this needed to be passed on to all of you. :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42mVUIn623Q

[PalmStriker]

:) No way you can mistake a cup of wizz for lemonade. Yuck, I'll pass on that one. If your life depended on it , you can drink urine once only. Second time it goes through the system it becomes poison and will kill grass, for instance. That's why I never wizz in the same place out in the back yard late at night while catching some air. So, considering the fact that it is one stage away from creating a poison-wizz beverage, I would say these guys are just full of wizz. Cow's urine is antiseptic and was originally one of the ingredients in aspirin. Old Chinese antiseptic for wounds was to use a child's urine to ward off infection. I'll stick with my gummy vitamins.

[Jimbo]

I remember reading decades ago that the drinking of one's own urine had become somewhat of a fad amongst some celebrities and some other 'health-conscious' folks in Japan. IMO, it's a bunch of nonsense. Urine is excreted from the body for a good reason. Probably the least harmful possible outcome of drinking urine, IMO, might be chronic p!ss breath, which would still be no bed of roses. Though I suppose Bear Grylls might enjoy it.

[GeneChing]

Same ol' pix tho...


Old man has been drinking his own **** for the past 23 years, claims it cures all illnesses (http://shanghaiist.com/2016/06/29/urine_therapy_cures_all.php)

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The Department of Policies, Laws and Regulations has just released a long list of a total of 748 associations that earn money through welcoming new members. Included on that list is the China Urine Therapy Association, leading many to wonder, just the heck does that group do?
Well, some people try to become more healthy simply through regular exercise and eating healthy. Others in China try out different kinds of bizarre traditional Chinese therapies that are sure to weird you out -- including urine therapy.
"It's been 23 years. I've been drinking urine since I was 48. Urine can cure all illnesses, like back problems, emphysema and farsightedness," one old man from Chengdu, who is a chief managing director of the China Urine Therapy Association, told a Chengdu Economic Daily reporter. He confesses that he is obsessed with drinking urine. After his daughter had gotten wind of his obsession, she nearly broke off all contact with him.
Here's his unique health regimen:
1) He wakes up around 5 to 6 a.m. every day.
2) He pours water and puts a kilo of monk fruit into a porcelain jar the night before and he drinks it the next morning.
3) He only chugs down his own urine after 5 p.m.
“I drink 500 to 1,000 ml of urine five to six times a day,” he said. After tasting his own pee, he says that it tastes a little sour because he drinks too little water.

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When asked why he started urine therapy, he explains that a urine therapy campaign came to his neighborhood in 1993. He bought a book on the subject for 7.8 yuan and began reading. After reading over it thoroughly three times, he started drinking his own pee. He claims that after drinking urine for just three months, he no longer needed to wear glasses when playing mahjong.
Even though the old man claims that urine therapy has made him healthier than he has ever been, it has not actually been officially proven to be medically effective or beneficial. Wang Xiaodong, a doctor at the Chengdu First People’s Hospital said that he wouldn’t advocate urine therapy to patients because urine consists of human waste which is not beneficial to health at all. He emphasized that despite certain advantages of drinking urine written about in ancient books, there’s no concrete evidence to prove whether those advantages are valid or not.
Another expert from West China Hospital added that there are some chemicals, like urokinase which are good for health, but they aren't easy to extract it from the urine.
The old man is not the only one that claims that urine therapy is good for health. Back in 2014, a member of the China Urine Therapy Association, who was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism, made the news by insisting that he had been cured by urine therapy. Though, he seemed to deliberately exclude one little fact: he had been taking anti-hyperthyroidism medicine.
Drinking urine might seem a bit extreme to most, but not everyone thinks so. Last year, an intrepid British reporter for MailOnline sipped his own ****. Bravo!

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Bottoms up!
By Katie Ngai
[Images via Asian Town]

[GeneChing]

China Urine Therapy Association still going strong with over 4000 members after government ban (http://shanghaiist.com/2016/08/17/china_urine_therapy_association.php)

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Western medicine or traditional Chinese medicine? Some opt for neither and prefer urine therapy. And yes, it's as strange as it sounds.
Two months ago, The Department of Policies, Laws and Regulations released a list of 748 unregistered organizations that illegally earn money through members. China Urine Therapy Association was included on the list. However, it seems that the government ban hasn't slowed the flow of new members and the group has only expanded since then.
Previously, it was reported that the association includes some 1,000 members. Now they have apparently amassed more than 4,000 devotees, via the mobile chat app QQ, SCMP reports.
However, the group has ran into some problems with the government. In Hong Kong, they claimed to be a "non-profit non-governmental organization for the common wealth recognized by the Hong Kong SAR government," but People's Daily revealed that they do not have any recognition from the HKSAR government.

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The organization was founded back in 2008 in Hong Kong, but many across China have joined in hopes of curing their diseases or maintaining their good health. For instance, one proud member, an old man from Chengdu has been drinking his own urine for the past 23 years and claims that it cures all illnesses. A younger man from Wuhan has credited urine therapy with curing his hypothyroidism.
Bao Yafu, the chairman of the China Urine Therapy Association, consistently advocates for the benefits of drinking urine. His daily routine includes not just drinking it, but also washing his eyes and face with ****.
As bizarre as this form of "therapy" is, the Global Times helps to explain why it is so popular. Many practitioners are from the lower socioeconomic classes and may not be able to afford standard medicine. Others may have simply lost confidence and patience with conventional health care methods and are seeking an alternative way to cure what ails them. Most who end up participating in urine therapy are senior citizens, who are susceptible to heath care fraud.
Urine is around 95% water and 5% nutrients and minerals. It contains little toxins so it is not that risky to drink. But, we still wouldn't recommend it.
Meanwhile, netizens are in disbelief that urine therapy is still around.
"Why don't you guys start a 'China Poop Consuming Therapy Association'?" @病态国度F wrote.
"Let them drink their own urine until their IQ rises," @庞观者明 wrote.
One also made a reference to the Sun Yang vs. Mack Horton Olympic feud.
"[Mack] Horton is the leader of this organization," @元元不能再圆了 wrote.
Whether people like it or not, the urine drinking group will probably manage to stick around. The Municipal Bureau of Civil Affairs in Wuhan has stated that they don't have jurisdiction over the association and therefore cannot regulate them. Unless they commit a crime, they're still entitled to do as they wish.
Bottoms up!

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By Sarah Lin
[h/t Chris Buckley]

I'm trying to imagine how you would go ab out banning this practice. Of course, you can ban the organization, but it's not like you can control pee like you control drugs. There's always pee. You can't regulate pee.

[PalmStriker]

:) LOL. They'll have to de-regulate it if they double their membership. I drink beer, kinda looks like pee, sort of. Maybe these guys never tried a good cold lager. Notice there are no women doing it. They would rather drink plum wine, Not weener beverages.

[GeneChing]

I'm all for recycling but this is so wrong. Beer (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?6266-Beer&p=1302820) & Urine (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?53135-health-benefits-of-urine) is a one-way process.


May 5, 2017, 11:31 AM
Denmark brewer makes beer using human urine (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/denmark-beer-brewer-norrebro-bryghus-human-urine-fertilizer/)
Last Updated May 5, 2017 11:33 AM EDT

A brewery in Denmark is making beer using human urine. The specialty pilsner is called "Pisner," a name derived from wordplay on the type of beer and local slang.

The brew is made with malting barley fertilized by the contents of urinals at the largest music festival in Northern Europe. The 50,000 liters of human waste liquid was used as an alternative to traditional animal manure or factory-made fertilizer products.

"The reason why we make this 'Pisner' beer is because we are a craft brewery out of Copenhagen and about four years ago we converted into organic, so all our beers are organic today," Henrik Vang, chief executive of brewer Norrebro Bryghus, told the Reuters news agency.

"We thought it would be a great idea also to go into recyclable beer. So we want to test our brewers and test our opportunities to make recyclable beer," he said.

Denmark's agriculture and food council named the technique "beercycling," and said "Pisner" could become a trendy, sustainable brew.

"I think it's a genius idea, since it's an investment in the future. We have a lack of phosphorus, so by doing something like this, the circle is complete," said taster Mikkel Pedersen.

"It tastes really good," Birden Eldahl, another taster, told Reuters. "It's fresh and full at the same time and it's a good beer."

But reactions have been mixed.

"In the beginning, a lot of people thought that we had a filtration where the pee went directly into the beer, but that is of course not right," said managing director of Norrebro Bryghus, Henrik Vang.

"In the beginning there was a lot of left and right sides, opinions about this project, but now when people understand what it's all about, I think that it's OK," he continued.

The batch of urine collected from the initial festival is enough to produce 60,000 bottles of beer. After that, the brewers are going to have to decide if they want to keep putting the "p" in pilsner.

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=HnQDhjdChZ0

[PalmStriker]

:eek: I agree with chill'in dudes that chick is whacked. Urine has no unique health benefits, human or other source. I can't believe she drank dog urine for the camera like it was Mt. DEW. Urine has only one life saving benefit and that is if you were stranded in a life or death situation.... you can drink your urine one time only to bide you some extra time before dehydration advances further. After that your urine will be poisonous for you to consume. People who drink urine for "health reasons" are freeky health freaks. "Peeple". ~ Dog didn't mind, though. Probably thought she was just a crazy beech.

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=IGi3O_3Ukt8

[PalmStriker]

:) I guess it was just a matter of time for women to start joining the party. Next of course is to establish non-profits to promote their agendas. Wizzologists. Now the expression "full of pizz and vinegar" makes nutritious sense.

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHPPvq_YZc

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It3uCssJj5Y

[Jimbo]

I can only imagine these people's breath smelling like a stairwell where the homeless go to relieve themselves.

[LaterthanNever]

ok Look..TV Star Bear Ghrylls drank his own pee when it was either get some water into his system or..DIE!! In theory it could be done because of the fact that urine has a high water content.

BUT..

Saving ones' life just isn't the same as doing the above practice consistently.

It's a good way to get nitrate poisoning and I won't even get into some of the compounds like Ammonia,etc. that you body urgently wants to get RID of!

Here is a database of the over 3,000 compounds found in human urine:

http://www.urinemetabolome.ca

[GeneChing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=157&v=i2G7OyIz8fs

[GeneChing]

This is in reaction to the dog pee drinking vid above (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?53135-health-benefits-of-urine&p=1309216#post1309216). We also discussed Machida before (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?53135-health-benefits-of-urine&p=925888#post925888), and Rogan is the post above this.




I can’t believe I have to say this but pee is not a beverage :) (https://theoutline.com/post/4940/heres-why-that-girl-drank-her-dogs-****?zd=1&zi=eimdmkwz)

You can, but why would you?

Here’s why that girl drank her dog’s ****

By Angela Lashbrook

Jun—15—2018 03:07PM EST

Maybe this comes as a surprise to some people, but you really shouldn't drink your dog's pee. Or anyone's pee, for that matter.

In a video resurfaced last week on the Viceland show Desus & Mero, a young woman stands on a grassy patch with her cute, incorrectly harnessed dog, holding a plastic cup. "Many of you have asked me how I look so good, how my makeup always looks so perfect, or how I always have this natural glow," she says to the camera. "Here's my secret." As if on cue, her dog turns to a tree, and the woman places the cup beneath the dog's stream of ****. Then, with the swagger of someone about to shotgun a beer, she shakes her hair back and drinks the fresh, warm urine.

"The first time I drank my dog's pee, I was depressed, I was sad, and I had really bad acne," she says after she guzzles the urine, before instructing her viewers that the golden elixir has vitamin A, vitamin E, and "ten grams of calcium."

Unfortunately, our protagonist was misled. While there's considerable evidence that urea, a compound that makes up 50 percent of urine solids, is useful in treating skin conditions like eczema and psoriasis, nothing promising shows that drinking it will do anything for your skin or mental health.

Still, her belief is understandable: the internet is rife with naturopath blogs promoting the ingestion of pee to cure all kinds of maladies. The concept of drinking urine for health reasons has been practiced here and there for thousands of years, but it wasn't until British naturopath John W. Armstrong's landmark work "The Water Of Life: A Treatise On Urine Therapy" was published in 1944 that urine therapy --- also known as urophagia --- became popular in the Western alternative medicine community.

The internet has, of course, turned out to be an exciting breeding ground for wildly misleading information about ****-drinking. A top Google results for "urine therapy" is the Universal Healing Tao, which claims that "drinking urine is a good alternative wherever water is scarce ... If you still cannot bring yourself to drink your own urine pure, mix a dash of it into a glass of fruit juice or mix it with water and honey."

At All-Natural: Natural Healing Source Center, "medical research writer" and "natural health consultant" Martha Christy claims that urine therapy is "powerful ... our own urine is an enormous source of vital nutrients, vitamins, hormones, enzymes and critical antibodies."

In a 2009 video posted to his YouTube channel, UFC commentator and hugely popular podcaster Joe Rogan drinks his own urine, claiming that he's done it "a bunch of times." "I've read so many people online say it's a form of medicine," he says, before the video shifts to a segment of UFC fighter Lyoto Machida explaining that he drinks his "first urine of the day" every morning when he wakes up. And if you search YouTube for "drinking your own p33," you'll find a ton of videos of people drinking and talking about the benefits of urine therapy.

When I spoke to Dr. Lauren Schulz, a urologist at Total Urology Care in New York City, she disputed these urine drinkers' claims that urophagia is a vitamin-rich, effective naturopathy treatment.

"There shouldn't be calcium in the urine," she told me over the phone. "Same with Vitamins A or E --- they shouldn't be there unless a person, or dog, has been taking supplements. If there's high calcium or any other minerals, it crystallizes into stone formation --- and if an animal [or human] has stone formation, it usually follows infection."

While there's bacteria in urine, Dr. Schulz told me, normal pee from a healthy individual isn't especially harmful --- it just isn't beneficial, either. "Urine is waste, and waste is things our body doesn't need," she said.

Even if you're stranded in the desert without an adequate water supply, urine isn't a good substitute. The Army, Marine, Navy, And Air Force Survival Guide places urine as the number one liquid military personnel should not drink if they're desperate for hydration, followed by "fish juice," blood, sea water, and alcohol. "Think about it like drinking ocean water," Jeff Giullian, a Denver-based nephrologist, told Popular Science. "It's going to dehydrate you and do significantly more harm than good."

Urine isn't totally without medical merit, but its limited benefits are topical, not oral. "Drinking the uric acid found in urine does not give any skin benefits. Urea is found in multiple skin preparations and is typically used in a cream for dry skin. It can be very helpful for thick scaly areas especially on feet, knees and elbows; but also generally for dry skin," dermatologist Dr. William Kwan told me. Urea can be synthetically produced, and the National Institute of Health's Open Chemical Database cites multiple studies that support the efficacy of urea in treating psoriasis, eczema, and dry skin. A"comprehensive review of the clinical literature" on urea, published in the Dermatology Online Journal, states that topical urea (like this moisturizer from Eucerin), is an effective treatment for keratosis pilaris, aka chicken skin: those small, painless red bumps many people get on their arms, legs, and faces. In simpler terms, products rich in urea ensure your skin is well-moisturized and protected against external irritants, such as sodium lauryl sulfate.

If you're sad, have acne, or want to guarantee your makeup will always look good, please do not drink anyone's ****, even if it's your beloved dog's. Instead, visit your local pharmacy for an inexpensive moisturizer with urea. It'll be much more effective.

Science

[GeneChing]

False COVID-19 information convinces mom, 4 kids to drink urine for 4 days (https://www.fox5dc.com/news/false-covid-19-information-convinces-mom-4-kids-to-drink-urine-for-4-days)
By Jordan Smith Published 3 days ago HealthFOX TV Digital Team

WESTMINSTER, United Kingdom - A mother trying to protect herself and her family from the novel coronavirus ended up being duped by false information that led her to drink her own urine.

For four days, the British woman and her four children gulped down their own urine, believing it would protect them from COVID-19, according to a report by the City of Westminster.

Urine is a waste product of the body. Its consumption is generally frowned upon in westernized medicine, according to a 2015 study conducted by the Journal of Clinical and Aesthetic Dermatology.

Urine contains high concentrations of toxins and salt that the body has already rid itself of. Once outside of the body, urine quickly attracts more bacteria. Consuming it can cause a person harm.

The British woman told officials she was convinced to drink her pee by a trusted friend or relative, who had served as the mom’s primary source of pandemic-related news.

The mother said she puts her faith in natural cures. Even so, the medical community hasn’t yet recognized anything as a cure for COVID-19.

To date, vaccines are the only thing clinically proven to prevent COVID-19 illness. But the mom cited a debunked conspiracy theory involving Bill and Melinda Gates when voicing her distrust of vaccines.

Misinformation has proven to be a detriment to public health throughout the pandemic. Aside from drinking urine, many so-called cures or preventative measures have proven futile.

One of the most notable false cures made headlines last spring when former President Donald Trump mused aloud about ingesting bleach to combat the virus.

This prompted fierce backlash from health officials, political rivals and bleach manufacturers, but their efforts fell short.

Just days later, officials began reporting cases of people drinking cleaning products in an attempt to protect themselves from the coronavirus.

This story was reported from Atlanta.

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[GeneChing]

Urine cures COVID, Christopher Key, recently arrested Alabama anti-vaxxer, falsely claims (https://www.al.com/news/2022/01/urine-cures-covid-christopher-key-recently-arrested-alabama-anti-vaxxer-falsely-claims.html)
Updated: Jan. 10, 2022, 3:16 p.m. | Published: Jan. 10, 2022, 3:16 p.m.
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Christopher Key, of Futondale, is an outspoken anti-vaxxer.

By Tandra Smith | tsmith@al.com and Carol Robinson | crobinson@al.com
An Alabama anti-vaxxer recently arrested in Jefferson County is touting urine as a cure for COVID-19.

Christopher Key is the founder of “Vaccine Police,” a website that gathers anti-vax news across the internet.

Key posted a video to his Telegram account over the weekend, according to The Daily Beast, saying that the urine cure has been around for centuries.

There is no scientific evidence to support Key’s claim.

“The antidote that we have seen now, and we have tons and tons of research, is urine therapy,” Key said in the video. “I know to a lot of you this sounds crazy, but guys, God’s given us everything we need.”

Key added that the vaccine is the worst bioweapon he’s ever seen. There is no scientific evidence indicating the COVID vaccines pose any health risk.

“Now drink urine! I drink my own urine!” Key said in the video.

The video came on the heels of his arrest after a recent court appearance.

Key appeared in front of Jefferson County District Judge Katrina Ross on Jan. 4 for an incident that happened last April.

Key was inside of the Whole Foods in Cahaba Village Plaza on U.S. 280 and refused to wear a mask.

Key was eventually asked to leave by the staff and after refusing to do so, was arrested and charged with third-degree trespassing.

A similar situation played out inside of the courtroom on Jan. 4, when he was asked to both wear a mask and stop recording inside of the courtroom.

In the video, which can be seen on his Twitter account and on his website vaccine-police.com, Key said that he had a medical/religious exemption to wearing a mask and that it was his right to record his own court proceedings.

Judge Ross eventually ordered Key be taken into custody.

“Defendant was advised several times to put on a mask if he wished to address the court and to turn his camera off,” Ross stated in her order. “Due to his failure to comply with the Orders of this Court, his bond is revoked.”

Key was booked into the Jefferson County Jail on Jan. 4 at 2:12 p.m and released on bond at 4:24 p.m. Jan. 5.

Following his release, Key posted a video to his Twitter account, thanking his followers for their support while he was behind bars.

In August, Key made news in Missouri after saying Walmart pharmacy workers could face execution for administering the COVID vaccine.

In a 30-minute video posted to Facebook live, Key went to the Walmart in Springfield, Missouri, to spread his anti-vaccine message.

Key was also mentioned in a letter issued by the National School Boards Association that asked federal law enforcement for help policing threats against school officials.

The letter documented more than 20 instances of threatening behavior across the country and referenced Key, who has protested central Alabama school board meetings.

The Alabama Association of School Boards cut ties with a national group two months after the letter was sent.

Key is not the only Alabamian who has been in the news for their anti-vax beliefs.

A couple known as the “Alabama Pickers” died in September of last year after being outspoken on their beliefs for months.

A few months earlier, a Pell City man thought COVID was a hoax until he died of it.

The Alabama Department of Public Health reported 61,234 new cases last week, nearly doubling the previous high.

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[GeneChing]

So wrong...


'I Would Have To Be Restrained': Internet Eviscerates Parent For Adding Urine To Popsicles (https://www.newsweek.com/i-would-have-restrained-internet-eviscerates-parent-adding-urine-popsicles-1667792)
BY TAYLOR MCCLOUD ON 1/10/22 AT 10:11 PM EST

Internet users were furious to learn that a user had been sneaking their own urine into their child's food after their shocking post in a urine therapy Facebook group went viral.

Posted in Reddit's r/insaneparents subreddit with the title, "I have several questions," a screenshot of the shocking Facebook post has received nearly 10,000 votes and sparked rage throughout a comment section from hundreds of angry parents. In the original post, as seen in Urine Magic, a Facebook group dedicated to the practice of urine therapy, one parent said they have been mixing urine and lemonade to make popsicles for their daughter.

"I've been adding half an ounce of my urine to lemonade and making it into popsicles for my daughter," the post reads. "She doesn't seem to notice and I can see the benefits already."

Later in the post, the parent revealed that they have been feeding the same popsicles to their daughter's friend without consulting their parents, but added that they are sure they will be "grateful" when the "improvement" in their child's cognitive abilities becomes "undeniable."

The Urine Magic Facebook group, which consists of 37,000 members, writes that urine therapy is a "naturopathic medicine & practice of drinking ones own urine for health, vitality & longevity." However, despite the practice's rising popularity, the benefit of drinking urine is unproven.

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One Facebook poster made waves when they said they've been adding their urine to lemonade and making it into popsicles for their daughter and her friend.
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According to Healthline, drinking urine is not advisable, and can introduce harmful bacteria and toxins. Between gastrointestinal problems and other infections resulting from bacteria found in the urinary tract, and the kidneys suffering from excess strain because they are forced to filter out concentrated waste products, the dangers of ingesting urine are far greater than any perceived health advantages.

Still, the practice is growing in popularity and recently, it has become linked with certain anti-vax movements.

Over the weekend, Christopher Key, founder of anti-vax website Vaccine-Police.com, posted a video to his Telegram account explaining that drinking urine is the "antidote" to the COVID vaccine, according to The Daily Beast. In the video, Key, who AL.com reports was arrested and taken into custody in Birmingham, AL following an outburst towards Jefferson County District Judge Katrina Ross, said that the COVID vaccine is "the worst bioweapon" he has ever seen, and that urine therapy is its "antidote."

While AL.com maintains that "there is no scientific evidence to support Key's claims," and it has been proven that drinking urine is not beneficial in any way, groups like Urine Magic continue to grow and continue to draw the ire of the internet.

Responding to the screenshot of the original Facebook post, many Redditors were enraged by the author's shocking admission.

In the post's top comment, that has received 4.2K votes, Redditor u/Orphylia asked the Redditor who shared the screenshot to report the Facebook post.

"OP, if you actually know who that person is/know their Facebook name...report that sh*t to somebody, anybody, PLEASE," they wrote.

Redditor u/stopaskinifimbleedin said forcing your child and somebody else's child to unknowingly participate in urine therapy is against the law and questioned the parent's motive for it.

"This isn't just insane, this is illegal," they commented. "Who in their right f*****g minds would feed someone ELSES CHILD a pee popsicle?!?!?"

Receiving over 1,000 votes, Redditor u/OwlyFox added that they would not be able to control themselves if another parent fed their child urine.

"I would have to be restrained if someone told me they had fed urine to my kid," they wrote. "Because I would go insane."

Hold the phone... there's a Urine Magic Facebook group?

[GeneChing]

I was hypnotised, told to join orgies and given yoga guru's urine to drink at depraved sect: Cult 'victims' were also stripped naked at 16 and made to parade at sex beauty pageant (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12837723/I-hypnotised-lured-orgy-yoga-guru-drink-urine-Sect-victims-stripped-naked-16-parade-sex-beauty-pageant.html)
Gregorian Bivolaru was arrested in Paris last Tuesday after years on the run
By JAMES REYNOLDS
PUBLISHED: 10:22 EST, 7 December 2023 | UPDATED: 11:18 EST, 8 December 2023

Agnes Arabela Marques was only 15 when she met the leader of a controversial yoga sect accused of running an international tantric sex ring that used women as slaves.

'At first he seemed nice,' she said of 71-year-old guru Gregorian Bivolaru, who was arrested last week in Paris after six years on the run on suspicion of rape, exploitation, kidnapping and people trafficking. 'He was very respected, speaking with a very calm voice.'

But things soon took a sinister turn. Bivolaru invited the young Marques to his home and pressured her into performing lesbian sex acts with dozens of other women, before having sex with the yogi himself - presented as her initiation into tantric yoga.

Within a year, aged 16, Marques was one of around 300 women parading naked at a 'Miss Shakti' beauty pageant on the Black Sea, with some even masturbating on stage in front of thousands of onlookers.

Former members of Bivolaru's so-called Movement for Spiritual Integration into the Absolute (MISA) have since described the horror of being held in overcrowded houses in the suburbs of Paris where they were shown pornography, hypnotised, encouraged to take part in orgies and given the guru's urine to drink.

The terrifying sect saw dozens of women held in 'deplorable conditions' over a period of nearly two-decades before the raid last week, a multinational effort to bring the guru to justice.

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Agnes Arabela Marques was only 15 when she met 71-year-old guru Gregorian Bivolaru

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Romanian guru Gregorian Bivolaru is escorted to a vehicle, after a hearing at the Romanian Police headquarters in Bucharest, Romania, Wednesday, Aug 24, 2016

The year was 1999 and Marques, a dual Romanian-Portuguese national, had just followed her older sister from a small town in Romania to the capital Bucharest to join Bivolaru's Movement for Spiritual Integration into the Absolute (MISA) yoga school.

The school, one of the first in a network that eventually spread to over 30 countries, taught tantric yoga, a practice loosely based on an ancient Hindu philosophy about achieving liberation through sex, among other rituals.

Any misgivings Marques had about the school's teachings were allayed by the fact that among the students were 'important people' like doctors and lawyers.

'I told myself I had nothing to worry about,' she said.

Bivolaru soon inducted Marques, then a minor, taking her to his home and pressuring her into sex acts. She believed it was part of an initiation ritual, the start of her spiritual journey.

'We were told the sexual act with the guru was a consecration, that it was approved by God,' she said, but Bivolaru nonetheless warned her 'not to say anything' about how she lost her virginity.

'Bivolaru claimed that, if I had sex with him as a yoga master, I could achieve superior levels of tantric spirituality,' she explained. 'In his apartment, there were constantly girls that were there to have sex with him.

'The girls living in that apartment would spend a few days or even a few weeks there and afterwards their place would be taken by other girls.

'This way Bivolaru wanted to ensure the so-called 'avalanche state'. In order to keep sexual desire alive, he said it was not good to live with your partner for too long.'

'Gregorian Bivolaru was interested in an Indian myth that said you could get to a high spiritual level if you had sex with 1,000 virgin girls. He knew the age of each girl he had sex with because he received photos from his yoga students and the date of birth was written on the back.'

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The women freed today had been 'kept in deplorable conditions' both in terms of space and hygiene, a source said

For two decades this continued to run the sect out of safehouses in multiple European countries. For years, the 'MISA' school stayed in the crosshairs of judicial authorities in Romania, Sweden and France, a source close to the investigation says, as it continued to bring together hundreds if not thousands of members.

The movement became known for its bizarre rituals called yoga spirals, in which devotees would gather and hold hands in order depending on their zodiac sings.

Women were also encouraged 'to agree to participate in fee-paying pornographic practices in France and abroad', a source said.

Women paid for yoga workshops via sex chats and men paid through manual work, a judicial source told Afp. The workshops were 'clearly exclusively dedicated to the satisfaction of the main suspect's desires,' the source said.

French police were finally able to move in and arrest Bivolaru in a house in Ivry-sur-Seine near Paris on Tuesday.

More than 50 women were found, being kept in 'deplorable conditions' between two overcrowded houses in the greater Paris suburbs.

They included nationals of Romania, Argentina, Germany, Belgium and the United States.

The police said the women had been 'freed from a sect' and that they found sex toys, pornographic material and photos of Bivolaru.

At the guru's own home in the southeastern Paris suburb of Ivry-sur-Seine they also found over 200,000 euros ($215,000) in cash, pornography and fake identity documents.

Ashleigh Freckleton, a 31-year-old Australian woman who joined a MISA ashram in Romania in 2018, took part in one of the French 'initiation rituals'.

On arrival in Paris, she was taken with a group of other mostly foreign women to a house in the Paris suburbs with all the blinds drawn, where they were shown pornography, hypnotised and encouraged to take part in orgies.

Her passport and telephone were confiscated, she told AFP in a phone interview.

The women were also given Bivolaru's urine to drink but Freckleton pulled up short at having sex with a man presented as 'an enlightened being'.

'I knew I needed to get out,' she told AFP.

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MISA was kicked out of the International Yoga Federation and the European Yoga Alliance in 2008 because its commercial practices were judged to be 'illicit'

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On its official website, yogaesoteric, the group describes itself as the 'largest yoga school in Romania and in Europe' and Bivolaru as its 'spiritual mentor'

In 2004, he fled Romania, where he was being investigated for sex with minors, for Sweden, where he obtained political asylum.

In 2013, a Romanian court condemned him in absentia to six years in prison but he avoided arrest until 2016 when he was arrested in France and handed over to Bucharest.

Within a year he was free, after securing early release, but was immediately the target of an Interpol search warrant after complaints from several Finnish women, who claimed they were forced to have sex with him in Paris.

It took six years before French police caught up with him last week and placed him in preventive custody, along with five other suspects.

A French human rights group has collected statements from 12 of his former followers alleging abuse.

One French judicial source told AFP that MISA, also known as ATMAN, taught tantric yoga with the aim of 'conditioning victims to accept sexual relations via mental manipulation techniques which sought to eliminate any notion of consent'.

Women were pressured both to have sex with Bivolaru and 'to agree to participate in fee-paying pornographic practices in France and abroad'.

One investigator said the group was 'reminiscent of the mafia' with 'pimping disguised as philosophy'.

MISA denies wrongdoing, telling CNN Bivolaru had not founded Atman (the international name for the school) nor taught yoga since 1995.

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