View Full Version : Toxin Free Mouthpeice Please
Tainan Mantis
02-26-2009, 03:09 PM
Soft plastics often contain evil toxins such as Phthalates. I suspect that mouthpeice, which you melt to fit your mouth is a likely candidate for these toxins linked to all sorts of health problems.
Any non plastic high quality mouthpeice?
What did people use for mouthpeice before plastic?
Like old boxers for instance.
Here is a well done article which hits on not only Phthalates, but other toxins we are exposed to.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090224_toxins_r_us/
GreenCloudCLF
02-26-2009, 03:20 PM
Everything is deadly these days.
TenTigers
02-26-2009, 04:52 PM
I stay away from all of those artificial plastics. That is why I make my own mouthpiece from lead.
i honestly don't think you will have your mouthpiece in your mouth for long enough durations of time for it to matter.
right now, one would basically have to stop breathing to avoid toxins...and eating, and drinking anything.
i agree to try to avoid stuff if possible but, honestly, the mouthguard is not one I'm going to worry about.
which reminds me I lost mine and need a new one.
TenTigers
02-26-2009, 09:58 PM
which reminds me I lost mine and need a new one.
that is the other reason-you won't have it that long anyway. You always lose them.
yea, just when they start to taste good....
David Jamieson
02-27-2009, 06:30 AM
I stay away from all of those artificial plastics. That is why I make my own mouthpiece from lead.
I make mine completely out of cartilage from dead babies.
not only protective, but tasty too.
MasterKiller
02-27-2009, 07:10 AM
that is the other reason-you won't have it that long anyway. You always lose them.
I keep mine in a $.50 soap dish (http://www.travelessentials.com/productimages/thumbnail/13801050140.Navy_t.jpg).
I keep mine in a $.50 soap dish (http://www.travelessentials.com/productimages/thumbnail/13801050140.Navy_t.jpg).
yea, but then you have to remember to put it back in there...i lose mine most often if I'm trying to teach and train at the same time....mouthpiece in for training....mouthpiece out for talking...and, crap, where the hell did i put that **** thing...last week i tucked it inside my neoprene knee brace and forgot it was there till i wondered why my knee was hurting
MightyB
02-28-2009, 02:20 PM
Hi Tainan,
You can go into most dentist office's and get a custom fit mouthpiece for sports. Prices vary. Some will do it for as little as $10 for an athlete, but they can cost up to $75. They're worth the money and any serious martial artist should have one.
yea, but is it free of toxins? probably not...almost any plastic that can be moulded will certainly have something chemical like...i don't know what exactly...that allows it to be formed through heat
Shaolinlueb
02-28-2009, 10:12 PM
i like plastic cups too, cause they are poisonus. heck if i use anything way too much i get cancer :rolleyes:
CANCER! F*CK YEAH! KILLING YOUR @SS TO RUIN YOUR MOTHER F*CKING DAY, YEAH!
Tainan Mantis
03-03-2009, 12:35 PM
What did people use for a mouth piece before the invention of plastic?
A reinforced loufa sponge?
pig cartilige? or cartilige from some other animal? but, most probably they didn't do much of anything.
i just ordered a new one today...a shock doctor in neon green! :D
Pork Chop
03-03-2009, 01:13 PM
i believe the first mouthpieces were rubber & pretty uncomfortable.
It took the bareknuckle boxing guys a long time to even go that far though, most didn't wear them till the end.
Shaolinlueb
03-03-2009, 01:14 PM
dude seriously, the amount of plastic you haev to ingest and have in your mouth to get cancer from a mouthpiece is a lot.
sanjuro_ronin
03-03-2009, 01:15 PM
If you are gonna fight with one, you gotta train with one.
Pork Chop
03-03-2009, 01:19 PM
If you are gonna fight with one, you gotta train with one.
yeah i wear my shock doctor gummy for most of my training sessions.
i may get cancer from it, but i also have had a bad habit most of my life of chewing on 20 oz plastic soda bottle caps, so that'll be the more likely culprit.
nice find on the history of mouthpieces.
The orange peel idea almost sounds tasty...
yea, definitely have to train with it
ditto on the history find...i looked but didn't find anything quickly.
i think the one i ordered was one of the 'gummy' ones.
i occasionally soak mine in mouthwash overnight.
we're gonna get cancer from a lot of other places first i think
GreenCloudCLF
03-03-2009, 07:31 PM
pig cartilige? or cartilige from some other animal? but, most probably they didn't do much of anything.
i just ordered a new one today...a shock doctor in neon green! :D
I had that one. Cool color, overrated.
how is it overated? just curious, took a chance on it because it was on sale for $5...if it sucks then no biggie.
i did want to match my green boxing gloves though. :D
Shaolinlueb
03-03-2009, 08:42 PM
shock doctors are the win
Tainan Mantis
03-03-2009, 09:41 PM
dude seriously, the amount of plastic you haev to ingest and have in your mouth to get cancer from a mouthpiece is a lot.
Cancer is not the problem.
It is something much worse than cancer!!
Water bottles can leach bisphenol A, a xenoestrogen and known endocrine disruptor into your drinking water. It disturbs the hormonal messaging in our bodies. What this means is that men live with decreased levels of testosterone. Synthetic xenoestrogens are linked to breast cancer and uterine cancer in women.
In case you didn't know, testosterone is the hormone that men need to be men.
that's the same argument for men not eating soybean products though...not the same chemical cause but the estrogen like chemical that is in raw soy beans...i know, it's controversial but most things I've raid say there might be a link but it's unclear...
i agree it's better to avoid known things that might harm you but unless one lives in a bubble you can't take a breath in most cities w/o inhaling far more crap than you might get from a plastic mouthguard...or soy products (unless one eats nothing but soy at every meal)
Pork Chop
03-04-2009, 09:30 AM
how is it overated? just curious, took a chance on it because it was on sale for $5...if it sucks then no biggie.
i did want to match my green boxing gloves though. :D
if it's the one I think it is (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/power-gel-ultra.aspx) then it's not gummy at all - it's a very rigid mouth guard and I don't like wearing it.
The one i like is this one. (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/gel-max-mouthguard.aspx)
As a back up, this one (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/pro.aspx) is also pretty decent.
I currently have one of each already boiled & fitted in my gym bag, though I tend to only use the first.
The gel nano looks pretty cool; but looks designed for someone with less of an overbite than I have.
The power double was the best double I've ever tried, but that's not saying much - I still don't like doubles and I really don't like rigid mouth guards.
EDIT: I go through a decent number of mouthguards myself. The gel max may start to break down if you store it in mouth wash or make the mistake of leaving gum in your mouth while wearing it; but replacing something that costs $10 every year or two isn't a bad deal.
Shaolinlueb
03-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Cancer is not the problem.
It is something much worse than cancer!!
Water bottles can leach bisphenol A, a xenoestrogen and known endocrine disruptor into your drinking water. It disturbs the hormonal messaging in our bodies. What this means is that men live with decreased levels of testosterone. Synthetic xenoestrogens are linked to breast cancer and uterine cancer in women.
In case you didn't know, testosterone is the hormone that men need to be men.
all i read is blah blah blah blah, i am scared of dieing young, blah blah blah :rolleyes:
kidding man. i wouldn't worry about it man, seriously. show me a graph where it shows since the world itself uses more plastic, that these effects of it are real and should make me worry.
MasterKiller
03-04-2009, 10:26 AM
all i read is blah blah blah blah, i am scared of dieing young, blah blah blah :rolleyes:
kidding man. i wouldn't worry about it man, seriously. show me a graph where it shows since the world itself uses more plastic, that these effects of it are real and should make me worry.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-weaker-sex-1055688.html
WinterPalm
03-04-2009, 10:37 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-weaker-sex-1055688.html
At least there's now an explanation for metrosexuals.
Tainan Mantis
03-04-2009, 12:18 PM
that's the same argument for men not eating soybean products though
Yeah, well...since I heard about that I stopped eating soy products.
It enforced a suspicion that I had had for many years while living in Taiwan about the effect of soy on men.
Thanks for that post Master Killer...
Key point is
"..a host of common chemicals is feminising males ..."
Thanks to all for chiming in on all the choices for gaurds. Nice to hear people's opinion on what they are using.
Exadon
03-04-2009, 12:20 PM
Yeah, well...since I heard about that I stopped eating soy products.
****IT. All the time I have been drinking soy milk!
if it's the one I think it is (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/power-gel-ultra.aspx) then it's not gummy at all - it's a very rigid mouth guard and I don't like wearing it.
The one i like is this one. (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/gel-max-mouthguard.aspx)
As a back up, this one (http://www.shockdoctor.com/product/pro.aspx) is also pretty decent.
I currently have one of each already boiled & fitted in my gym bag, though I tend to only use the first.
The gel nano looks pretty cool; but looks designed for someone with less of an overbite than I have.
The power double was the best double I've ever tried, but that's not saying much - I still don't like doubles and I really don't like rigid mouth guards.
EDIT: I go through a decent number of mouthguards myself. The gel max may start to break down if you store it in mouth wash or make the mistake of leaving gum in your mouth while wearing it; but replacing something that costs $10 every year or two isn't a bad deal.
I think the one i ordered is the gel max...so, cool.
i've been using the pro for a while and liked it a lot, it's pretty good for the price
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