Hardwork108 and lkmfdc

[Violent Designs]

Can you guys exchange AIM or YIM or MSN or email and just argue there?

[Eddie]

no! why should they? Its fun to watch. Nothing else happens here.

[Violent Designs]

Well it's getting old.

We need some more factions.

[Taryn P.]

So start one. :p

[lkfmdc]

as long as there are trolls, there will be troll smashing.... Gene has said that it's open season, ie they won't ban you for trolling but you invite what you get... that's why a few of us have fun with the idiots like "hardwork"

It passes a few hours that are slow for us :D

[Drake]

as long as there are trolls, there will be troll smashing.... Gene has said that it's open season, ie they won't ban you for trolling but you invite what you get... that's why a few of us have fun with the idiots like "hardwork"

It passes a few hours that are slow for us :D

Just don't go over 1000 posts. For some reason, that sets some people OFF!

[David Jamieson]

stfu noob.

forums are for arguing and calling each other *****es and telling each other to eat a bag of dicks if you don't like what they're saying.

I mean, apparently thats what this forum is about these days, so may as well jump in and get to the community standards here.

If you think aliens built the pyramids, you're a wanker who happens to be brain dead.

If you think Obama is the antichrist, you're a wanker who's also brain dead.

If you think KFM is the place for political discussion and your name is 1bad, thenyou're a retard and so is your mom and your dad and all your friends.

if you do'nt like it being pointed out what a little scumbag you are, stfu and go eat a bag of dicks.

I don't know if it can be made any clearer, other than this forum is totally going down the tubes due to lack of moderation and failure to give a **** about the quality of the community.

so, in an effort to fit in with this new ****hole mentality here at kfm. Let me wish you wankers and whiners a hearty **** you!

hooray.

[uki]

i must be too good of a troll for lkfmdc, since the last i knew i was on his ignore list... i guess some guy's just aren't tough enough to handle me. :D

[uki]

stfu noob.

forums are for arguing and calling each other *****es and telling each other to eat a bag of dicks if you don't like what they're saying.

I mean, apparently thats what this forum is about these days, so may as well jump in and get to the community standards here.

If you think aliens built the pyramids, you're a wanker who happens to be brain dead.

If you think Obama is the antichrist, you're a wanker who's also brain dead.

If you think KFM is the place for political discussion and your name is 1bad, thenyou're a retard and so is your mom and your dad and all your friends.

if you do'nt like it being pointed out what a little scumbag you are, stfu and go eat a bag of dicks.

I don't know if it can be made any clearer, other than this forum is totally going down the tubes due to lack of moderation and failure to give a **** about the quality of the community.

so, in an effort to fit in with this new ****hole mentality here at kfm. Let me wish you wankers and whiners a hearty **** you!

hooray.another fine display of mental and emotional maturity... sinking to the level of childish name calling aswell as personally attacking someones family members. :rolleyes:

well done. please continue with your childish behaviour so all those who come to these forums can see the standards of your immature attitude. :)

[Kansuke]

I don't know if it can be made any clearer, other than this forum is totally going down the tubes due to lack of moderation and failure to give a **** about the quality of the community.





So, no one could blame you for leaving forever. Bye.

[CLFLPstudent]

another fine display of mental and emotional maturity... sinking to the level of childish name calling aswell as personally attacking someones family members. :rolleyes:

well done. please continue with your childish behaviour so all those who come to these forums can see the standards of your immature attitude. :)

Uki, your 'well done' rap is getting old, too.... find something new?

-David

[uki]

So, no one could blame you for leaving forever. Bye.by golly we seem to agree on something, but something tells me he won't leave because he seems to enjoy belittling people too much.


Uki, your 'well done' rap is getting old, too.... find something new?ok buddy... just for you.

good job DJ, once again you have displayed your spectacular ability to demonstrate mature and disciplined behaviour...

how was that? better? :p

[Taryn P.]

Wow..... I think somebody needs a hug!

(I don't think I'll be wearing the bikini when I offer, though.... I'll go get my acid-resistant plate armour)

[Hardwork108]

as long as there are trolls, there will be troll smashing....

You took the words out of my mouth, except that I would refer to you as lying troll.


Gene has said that it's open season, ie they won't ban you for trolling but you invite what you get...

Your almost 8000 post history stand testimony to that.



that's why a few of us have fun with the idiots like "hardwork"

It passes a few hours that are slow for us :D

You know, you really should go out and meet some women. Tell them that you do "kung fu", that should impress them (until they find out that you actually don't!).:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

the irony!

:D




You know, you really should go out and meet some women.



spoken by the guy who still lives in his mother's basement :D

I"m everything you want to be in life, successful, rich, and a super pimp :D

[hskwarrior]

FIGHT!........FIGHT.........FIGHT..........FIGHT!! !!!!!!


this is starting to sound like a school yard fight...........will it ever end? I'm tired of switching back and f ucking forth.,.......hahaha..........you guys are posting faster than i can type. :mad:.......:D

[Hardwork108]

Hey Taryn,

I love your signature.:)

I just realised that I need a hug as well.;):cool:

[lkfmdc]

if you leave mommy's basement, you can meet real women, oh, wait, then they'd be able to see you in person... stick to internet porn


Hey Taryn,

I love your signature.:)

I just realised that I need a hug as well.;):cool:

[Drake]

FIGHT!........FIGHT.........FIGHT..........FIGHT!! !!!!!!


this is starting to sound like a school yard fight...........will it ever end? I'm tired of switching back and f ucking forth.,.......hahaha..........you guys are posting faster than i can type. :mad:.......:D

If me and you ever fight...someone HAS to videotape it!

Me: Fu jau!!

Frank: Muddafukka, how's about "Fu OWW?!"

Me: Argh!

[hskwarrior]

f uck this, i'm next in line. i f ucking need a gawdamm hug too! :D

[hskwarrior]

Drake: Take my fu jow!!!

HSK: OK.....(sounds of each of drake's fingers breaking in hsk's death grip)

Drake: Ow, oh god, someone help me! ow, that wasn't good! Oh lord, why did you give me a diarrhea mouth, cause i can't stop talking s hit? ;)

HSK: give your other muthaphukkin hand fool, just in case you try one of you Fu Jow's on me again!!!!!! ( more sounds of drake screaming bloody murdah!)

Drake: Awww god, you didn't have to do THAT!!!!! I need that finger!!!!

HSK: walks away with drake's middle finger in mouth, chompin away at it!

[Drake]

Drake: Take my fu jow!!!

HSK: OK.....(sounds of each of drake's fingers breaking in hsk's death grip)

Drake: Ow, oh god, someone help me! ow, that wasn't good! Oh lord, why did you give me a diarrhea mouth, cause i can't stop talking s hit? ;)

HSK: give your other muthaphukkin hand fool, just in case you try one of you Fu Jow's on me again!!!!!! ( more sounds of drake screaming bloody murdah!)

Drake: Awww god, you didn't have to do THAT!!!!! I need that finger!!!!

HSK: walks away with drake's middle finger in mouth, chompin away at it!

Clearly you have forgotten that I can shoot lasers out of my eyes...

[hskwarrior]

Clearly.....you are unaware that my CLF has given my kills which make me a nightmare for people like you! MY CLF has caused me to be impervious to laser rays......HA......eyeball lasers! very outdated technology! sheesh!

[Chazmek]

How on earth did all this start in the first place?
What's with the "Two Year Grand Master" and "Disowning Sifu" stuff?
Why does it matter what other forum someone was on?
Why does it matter if someone reveals their real name on the internet?
Why does it matter if someone on the internet thinks that your personal skill is of a certain level or that your chosen style has merit or not?
Is it really important to retaliate against every immature jibe with more vitriolic posts?
I was under the impression that one of the great benefits of martial arts practice was becoming confident and disciplined. If you are so insecure that you feel you must viciously defend against the most minor and meaningless of insults from people who have no way of making actual evaluations of you in the first place...it would appear that you have missed something in your training along the way.

[Chazmek]

Oh, and Taryn, you might want to wait for the hugs until these guys calm down a little. Wouldn't want to get any of that testosterone-poisoned sweat all over your nice plate mail :D

[Lama Pai Sifu]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any MORE ridiculous...

[shakes head in disgust]

[Drake]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any MORE ridiculous...

[shakes head in disgust]

I see you missed the thread where merely uttering the phrase "loose and whippy" got me a half-page of threats and insults.

[lkfmdc]

I see you missed the thread where merely uttering the phrase "loose and whippy" got me a half-page of threats and insults.

Mike might be loose

but he certainly isn't whippy! :mad:

this means WAR!

[Drake]

Mike might be loose

but he certainly isn't whippy! :mad:

this means WAR!

Too late. Frank flew down here... came in, mumbled something about "mercy killings", and then sow choy'ed my head clean off.

This is actually my disembodied spirit talking.

[lkfmdc]

so he sow'ed what you had reaped? ;)

[hskwarrior]

and the sow'er reaps all the rewards :p

[uki]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any MORE ridiculous...thinking that ridiculousness has a limit is just outright ridiculous. :D

*munches some cornchips and sips some green tea*

you gotta admit there is never a boring moment in here.

*munch munch*

[hskwarrior]

love the imagery :p

Gulp Gulp *as i chugalug my sodapop!*

[uki]

love the imagery.imagine that...


Gulp Gulp *as i chugalug my sodapop!*ewwww... sodapop? you know you can clean your toilet with that stuff? my mom left a bottle of pepsi here and we kept it in the bathroom just for that purpose... :p

[hskwarrior]

that's ok.......i won't judge you. now, get me a coke!

[Hardwork108]

the irony!

The irony is that people like you still post in a Kung Fu Forum.


spoken by the guy who still lives in his mother's basement :D

I live about 5000 miles away from my mother, but thanks for trying.


I"m everything you want to be in life, successful,rich

No one is denying that there is good money to be made in kickboxing and MMA, but why are you posting (advertising this) in a kung fu forum?



and a super pimp :D

That is no surprise to me because just like all Glorified Kickboxers you keep disrespectfully PIMPING the "kung fu" tag without having the slightest notion of what authentic kung fu entails.

[lkfmdc]

CLOWN, the game is over.... you were too stupid to not trip over your own steps

Earlier today, when you logged onto your OTHER ACCOUNT, we caught you....

now slide back into your little hole

[Hardwork108]

CLOWN, the game is over.... you were too stupid to not trip over your own steps

Earlier today, when you logged onto your OTHER ACCOUNT, we caught you....

now slide back into your little hole

And your lies and deceptions continue.....:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

I love watching trolls squirm

a rather unsuccessful troll was booted from here in 2007. He hasn't been back here since (supposedly), yet he logged back on yesterday and went directly to all your posts to "hmmmm" re-read them :rolleyes:

same ISP..... what is that in "Spanish" :rolleyes:

you're done... tick, tick, tick

[Hardwork108]

I love watching trolls squirm

a rather unsuccessful troll was booted from here in 2007. He hasn't been back here since (supposedly), yet he logged back on yesterday and went directly to all your posts to "hmmmm" re-read them :rolleyes:

same ISP..... what is that in "Spanish" :rolleyes:

you're done... tick, tick, tick

And the desperate lies and attempts at deception continue....lol,lol,lol.

[lkfmdc]

that's nervous laughter and we all know it :D

don't open any strange emails for the next 6 to 10 months.....

[Hardwork108]

that's nervous laughter and we all know it :D

My laughter is a "knowing" laughter.;)


don't open any strange emails for the next 6 to 10 months.....

Please don't email me any of your "kung fu":rolleyes: DVD adds. Thank you.

[lkfmdc]

trying to act tough until the very end huh :rolleyes:

I'll be seeing you in cyberspace :D

[Exadon]

Please don't email me any of your "kung fu":rolleyes: DVD adds. Thank you.

I might be picking up the DVD now that it is 15$ off. It got pretty good reviews.

Hey lkfmdc (btw your status of 'banned' throws me off haha) can you provide a screen shot showing the ISP of hardwork and the 2007 Troll?

[lkfmdc]

there is a Klingon saying "revenge is a desert best served cold"

I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb :D

I'm also busy sending him emails LOL :D

[Exadon]

there is a Klingon saying "revenge is a desert best served cold"

I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb :D

I'm also busy sending him emails LOL :D

hahaha cool.
something to look forward to.

[golgo]

if you leave mommy's basement, you can meet real women, oh, wait, then they'd be able to see you in person... stick to internet porn

Why must they be mutually exclusive? I prefer to have my cake and eat it too.

[Hardwork108]

I might be picking up the DVD now that it is 15$ off. It got pretty good reviews.

I have seen the "good" reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven't seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews?


Hey lkfmdc (btw your status of 'banned' throws me off haha) can you provide a screen shot showing the ISP of hardwork and the 2007 Troll?

He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF!

Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf!

[Exadon]

I have seen the "good" reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven't seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews?

MK I believe watched them first hand , and gave a full review on the dvds



He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF!

Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf!

Time will tell

[Drake]

I can't tell which thread is which anymore... they all seem the same now...

[Exadon]

I can't tell which thread is which anymore... they all seem the same now...

I know same here. The threads are fun to read...but can we keep it in one thread? hahaha
exp since a lot of the replies are copied and pasted...it is hard to tell what thread I am in!

:(

[Hardwork108]

MK I believe watched them first hand , and gave a full review on the dvds
Yes I remember that Master Killer said that he liked them but I am talking about the quotes that were provided by lkfmdc himself (through a link that he posted).




Time will tell

Don't tell me you are falling for lkfmdc's tricks. He doesn't know who I am. Yet he keeps posting supposed quotes from my sifu....lol.

Previously to that about a year ago he doctored some of my actual posts by adding anti semetic comments to them.

The fact is that he does not like people who promote the authentic kung fu approach and call "modernists" like him Glorified Kickboxers (which they are).

He is here to promote his kung fu tagged kickboxing gym and to sell his DVDs and he sees people like me as threat to his profits. That is why he keeps on the lies and deceptions, all to discredit all that I post about authentic kung fu training so that he can continue to SELL what he teaches as a "better" or "improved" kung fu system.

Having said that, his DVD may indeed be a good as far as kickboxing is concerned.

Anyway, I did my best to explain the situation to you.:)

[lkfmdc]

:rolleyes:


I have seen the "good" reviews as well in the link that lkfmdc provided but I haven't seen them attributed to anyone in particular. Who wrote those reviews?

He can certainly provide you with quotes THAT HE HAS WRITTEN HIMSELF!

Just like all of the false quotes he has made on my behalf!

You are a complete idiot, but once again you've been CAUGHT

gee, who wrote the reviews? Uh, how about the people who wrote them :rolleyes:

Ben Gash (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39636)

masterkiller (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42759)

Nick Forrer (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=582407&postcount=97)

just as examples :rolleyes:

[hskwarrior]

Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
there is a Klingon saying "revenge is a desert best served cold"

I"m letting him chill before I drop the bomb

I'm also busy sending him emails LOL


FOOLS!!!!! ITS A SICILIANO MAFIOSO SAYING........revenge is a desert best served cold

HA! phucking KLINGONS! :D

[Exadon]

Don't tell me you are falling for lkfmdc's tricks. He doesn't know who I am. Yet he keeps posting supposed quotes from my sifu....lol.

I like lkfmdc (even though he blames my Sifu for the return of satan and the corruption of all things holy! haha)

and I have no beef with you.

I just find it fun to watch the drama unfold. It passes the day.

I personally think if 80-90% of the people on the forum would get along with each other just fine if they ever happen to meet in person. (even UKI!)

If you look at Sifu-Abels fight with Anthony, you see at the end where they hugged and were very respectful. Internet forums bring out the worse in all of us.



Previously to that about a year ago he doctored some of my actual posts by adding anti semetic comments to them.

The fact is that he does not like people who promote the authentic kung fu approach and call "modernists" like him Glorified Kickboxers (which they are).

While I don't know about the doctored post, I had posted a video of students in our school sparing (as well as doing a staff form and another red sash form from our school)

He gave it a pretty good comment if I recall, saying something like
-He always liked said form from Goh's-

I think you have to take Authentic Kung fu with a grain of salt. I also love to see "Authentic Kung fu"...but what is Authentic in MA now a days? Every art changes with time.




He is here to promote his kung fu tagged kickboxing gym and to sell his DVDs and he sees people like me as threat to his profits. That is why he keeps on the lies and deceptions, all to discredit all that I post about authentic kung fu training so that he can continue to SELL what he teaches as a "better" or "improved" kung fu system.

to be fair ( and I mean this with all due respect) I don't see you as being a threat to his sales. For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm.

Also, have you viewed his DVD for a true review? I thought (and could be wrong) that his DVD teaches a system that he was taught. Not something he pulled from thin air.

[/QUOTE]



Having said that, his DVD may indeed be a good as far as kickboxing is concerned.

Anyway, I did my best to explain the situation to you.:)

In the end, I would not take anything said here to heart. I am only a yellow sash. A freaking yellow sash. That translates into 4+ months experience in Gong-fu? Why does my opinion...or any one on this forum matter?

If you truly wish to clear your name and prove he is lying you could always post your true name, and your videos, ( and so on) or just ignore him if you feel no need to prove yourself.

EDIT:

. P.S. I thought San Da was Chinese Kick boxing? I like Authentic Gong Fu as much as the next Gong Fu lover...but Gong fu just means CMA. CMA includes San Da...a form of Chinese kick boxing (or so I thought?)

[lkfmdc]

"hardwork" you have to now add Exadon to your list of "liars" who mischaracterize you :rolleyes:




For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm.



quoted for truth

[hskwarrior]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahmM2fm_JJk

[Hardwork108]

and I have no beef with you.

I know that you don't.:)

You have always been a fair and polite poster.


I just find it fun to watch the drama unfold. It passes the day.

I know that too.:D

I personally think if 80-90% of the people on the forum would get along with each other just fine if they ever happen to meet in person. (even UKI!)

That statement is true for the most part, however as far as lkfmdc is concerned he does not seem to be able to make a post without putting in a couple of untrue statements inside. That is not something that is excusable not even in an internet forum.


While I don't know about the doctored post,
I have no reason to lie about it. There are people in this forum who participated in that ugly prank but will probably not manifest themselves because nowadays you cannot criticise MMA-ists and go against the "fashion".


I think you have to take Authentic Kung fu with a grain of salt.

Actually it is the "modernized" and "new and improved" kung fu that should be taken with a grain of salt.;)


I also love to see "Authentic Kung fu"...but what is Authentic in MA now a days? Every art changes with time.

And authentic kung fu has been changing during hundreds of years at the hands of real maters who had profound knowledge of a given style(s). However, nowadays a lot of the changes are coming from Jack of Trades knuckleheads who have not understood, let alone master any given kung fu style.


to be fair ( and I mean this with all due respect) I don't see you as being a threat to his sales.
I don't view myself a threat to his sales either but from his constant character assassination attempts,it seems that it is fair to assume that the little man calling himself lkfmdc, does!

The stuff that he teaches are in fashion and there should be plenty of people willing to pay for his "services" and good on them. My problem with people such as him is their use of the kung fu tag.


For one reason or another many people view you as a troll, and not only in this fourm.

The "many" people you mention are mainly MMA-ist knuckle heads (who shouldn't be posting here in the first place) and some of their "kung fu" friends.


Also, have you viewed his DVD for a true review? I thought (and could be wrong) that his DVD teaches a system that he was taught. Not something he pulled from thin air.
That would be good question for lkfmdc to answer.LOL.



In the end, I would not take anything said here to heart. I am only a yellow sash. A freaking yellow sash. That translates into 4+ months experience in Gong-fu?

Yet some of your previous comments have been more sensible than many of these Jack of All Trades' comments on kung fu.


Why does my opinion...or any one on this forum matter?

Well a kung fu forum is about discussions (about kung fu) and opinions are part of the discussion as long as they don't revolve around the "benefits" of BJJ and MMA in every other conversation.


If you truly wish to clear your name and prove he is lying you could always post your true name, and your videos,

Post my true name so that lkfmdc can make accusations that I am a racist antisemetic and other vile stuff, using my real name. No way!

And as far as videos go most of these guys wouldn't know real kung fu if it fell on them. Kickboxing and MMA is just about their limit. So no point there either.

Also, I don't see why putting up all that info is going to do to clear my name. Lkfmdc has been inventing lies about me since I started posting against the Glorified Kickboxers. Many here have realised that he is an immoral poster and a liar. So he is the one who should be clearing his name.


( and so on) or just ignore him if you feel no need to prove yourself.
I do ignore him sometimes but sometimes it is good to come out and put him into his place.


[QUOTE=EDIT:

. P.S. I thought San Da was Chinese Kick boxing? I like Authentic Gong Fu as much as the next Gong Fu lover...but Gong fu just means CMA. CMA includes San Da...a form of Chinese kick boxing (or so I thought?)
You are correct. However in time you will be able to see the difference between lkfmdc's San Da and the real stuff. You can check the Chinese Sanda fighters on YouTube and compare them to lkfmdc's "stiffs".

I will explain to you later about what I mean by "stiffs" as it is not what you may think that I mean.;):)

[lkfmdc]

LMFAO... can't help yourself can you?

Logged on as the original troll screen name, then needed to post a response, so suddenly that screen name logged off and you logged back on :rolleyes:

I think we found the source of your problems (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=917981&postcount=1)

:D

[Hardwork108]

LMFAO... can't help yourself can you?

Logged on as the original troll screen name, then needed to post a response, so suddenly that screen name logged off and you logged back on :rolleyes:

I think we found the source of your problems (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=917981&postcount=1)

:D

Christ!

Now you are promoting Butt-Plugs. Is it a case of giving them away to anyone who buys one of your DVDs.

Or is it because you are a insestant user of butt plugs and if so, don't your knucklehead boy friends get jealous?:D

[lkfmdc]

Now you are promoting Butt-Plugs.



yes, I am trying to get you to shut up already :D

You're making so many friends on here





Way too many posers on the net, and there is nothing wrong with exposing them.

Too bad you cannot seem to grasp that.

Any defence of hardwork would point out some serious flaws in your ablility to think rationally.
Hardwork come on and begins a onslaught, never explaining anything like an adult would. Meaning identifying who he is and his background and how that factors into all the virtriole that he has been spouting.

HW is nothing more than a mouth boxer.

Paul, David and myself and others really do not like MouthBoxers.

[hskwarrior]

ya'll are acting like some school yard hooligans!!!!!!

STFU ALREADY