Review of Sifu David Ross's san da dvd

[SavvySavage]

I own Sifu David Ross's san da dvd #2 with the thai pad work on it.

I've read the other reviews of it but I'm not quite on the same page with them.

From what is written on these forums about how bad TCMA are I expected to see some of this realistic training that all the mmaers are always talking about. The dvd contains exercises that are done at TCMA schools. I'm confused. Were these drills the alive training that was bragged about because it's the same exact stuff. For real for real. Perhaps pad work is limited in what can be done but at my school we've been doing different kinds of pad drills, similar to the ones on the dvd, for years. The only difference was that in the dvd they were all wearing huge boxing gloves instead of the smaller gloves that we tend to use(mma type probably).

There was one interesting concept of using the pads in a more alive fashion by putting them up randomly and having the person it it with jab, cross, hook or uppercut. This included circling with the pad holder.

There was a section on throwing elbows which I thought was kind of basic. The drill was you stop the jab and then elbow with your other arm or elbow with the same arm that blocked the jab.

Maybe this was a beginners dvd because it felt very basic. Recommended for beginners only.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I own Sifu David Ross's san da dvd #2 with the thai pad work on it.

I've read the other reviews of it but I'm not quite on the same page with them.

From what is written on these forums about how bad TCMA are I expected to see some of this realistic training that all the mmaers are always talking about. The dvd contains exercises that are done at TCMA schools. I'm confused. Were these drills the alive training that was bragged about because it's the same exact stuff. For real for real. Perhaps pad work is limited in what can be done but at my school we've been doing different kinds of pad drills, similar to the ones on the dvd, for years. The only difference was that in the dvd they were all wearing huge boxing gloves instead of the smaller gloves that we tend to use(mma type probably).

There was one interesting concept of using the pads in a more alive fashion by putting them up randomly and having the person it it with jab, cross, hook or uppercut. This included circling with the pad holder.

There was a section on throwing elbows which I thought was kind of basic. The drill was you stop the jab and then elbow with your other arm or elbow with the same arm that blocked the jab.

Maybe this was a beginners dvd because it felt very basic. Recommended for beginners only.

They are pad drills bro, what did you expect to see ??

[David Jamieson]

I ripped the hearts out of my thai pads long ago.
They are no longer alive and I just beat them as if they were dead horses.

[CFT]

I eat Pad Thais for breakfast :D

(actually tea and toast or cereal)

[lkfmdc]

They are pad drills bro, what did you expect to see ??

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I think it is pretty obvious he wanted to say something negative and just got the tape hoping to find something. He probably just fast forwarded through the disc, since he doesn't seem to realize there are elbow counters to the "basic 4" in there, and elbow strike DEFENSE, etc that he doesn't seem to realize are in there....

[lkfmdc]

I have to say, this was my favorite part!




at my school we've been doing different kinds of pad drills, similar to the ones on the dvd, for years.



so you've been doing pad work for "years"




There was one interesting concept of using the pads in a more alive fashion by putting them up randomly and having the person it it with jab, cross, hook or uppercut. This included circling with the pad holder.



but you aren't familiar with doing them randomly, or with movement?

uh, ok

[Shaolinlueb]

is this the one where the camera guys keeps filming the two asian chicks doing pad work? :eek::cool::D;):p

[lkfmdc]

is this the one where the camera guys keeps filming the two asian chicks doing pad work? :eek::cool::D;):p

I don't think so, I think he has part 2 of the three volume "kickboxing structure" DVD set

The one with the famous "asian chicks" is the first DVD

[Shaolinlueb]

yeah i just watch the first one :eek::eek::eek::cool:

[lkfmdc]

yeah i just watch the first one :eek::eek::eek::cool:

What? You didn't buy the all girl Shaolin Jello (tm) Jiu Jitsu tape yet ;)

[sanjuro_ronin]

What? You didn't buy the all girl Shaolin Jello (tm) Jiu Jitsu tape yet ;)

Now you got my attention !
:D

[Shaolinlueb]

What? You didn't buy the all girl Shaolin Jello (tm) Jiu Jitsu tape yet ;)

wait wait wait. you might have a selling point on me now ;):D

[WinterPalm]

I don't think so, I think he has part 2 of the three volume "kickboxing structure" DVD set

The one with the famous "asian chicks" is the first DVD

I have this one. The DVD is almost worn out...:eek:

[lkfmdc]

I have this one. The DVD is almost worn out...:eek:

no doubt because you needed to watch all that beginner stuff over and over again :D

[WinterPalm]

I was actually giving EVERYONE in the video corrections until I realized it wasn't a two way video and they couldn't hear me.

Then I continued on my form #56 to work on my anti-grappling moves.

[Shaolinlueb]

What? You didn't buy the all girl Shaolin Jello (tm) Jiu Jitsu tape yet ;)

still waiting for link to product. :eek:

[sanjuro_ronin]

still waiting for link to product. :eek:

You mean this one?

[lkfmdc]

still waiting for link to product. :eek:

it is still in post production

for some reason the editor won't come out of the bathroom with the master tape ;)

[Shaolinlueb]

You mean this one?

thank you very much.



it is still in post production

for some reason the editor won't come out of the bathroom with the master tape ;)

hmmm i wonder why :confused::D

[SavvySavage]

I wasn't trying to be negative at all. I was just being honest about my feelings toward the product. It was ok. That's all.

No need to get in a hissy fit. Too late for that

[jmd161]

I have to say, this was my favorite part!



so you've been doing pad work for "years"



but you aren't familiar with doing them randomly, or with movement?

uh, ok


Actually....I can see this being very much true. I've seen pad work at many a school but without the movement or any resemblance to anything live.


jeff:)

[Hardwork108]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I think it is pretty obvious he wanted to say something negative and just got the tape hoping to find something. He probably just fast forwarded through the disc, since he doesn't seem to realize there are elbow counters to the "basic 4" in there, and elbow strike DEFENSE, etc that he doesn't seem to realize are in there....

He spent his money to buy your DVD so that he could just "fast forward" the disc and then badmouth it?????:rolleyes:

[golden arhat]

see if you were clever dave

you would have plugged your dvd again
because only people who have seen the dvd can comment surely ? ;)
place your orders now folks

[lkfmdc]

Actually....I can see this being very much true. I've seen pad work at many a school but without the movement or any resemblance to anything live.



then that really isn't pad work!

[Mas Judt]

How the review SHOULD have read:

Just got coach ross's San Da padwork DVD, and my opinion is a bit different from most of the others on this forum. First of all, there was no form called 'padwork' on the DVD. Instead people just spent time hitting these silly mits. Frankly, I can't see the value in that at all. If you want to learn how to punch your sisters pillow in a pillow fight, get coach ross's San Da Pad Work DVD. But if you want to really fight, and by that I mean really fight - go find somebody to teach you the SanDa padwork form. Ask for it by name, you won't be disappointed with the answer.

[IronWeasel]

I don't see how Coach Ross's DVD on pad drills has any realistic application:

I've never been attacked with a pad by anyone on the street!

[Hardwork108]

How the review SHOULD have read:

Just got coach ross's San Da padwork DVD, and my opinion is a bit different from most of the others on this forum. First of all, there was no form called 'padwork' on the DVD. Instead people just spent time hitting these silly mits. Frankly, I can't see the value in that at all. If you want to learn how to punch your sisters pillow in a pillow fight, get coach ross's San Da Pad Work DVD. But if you want to really fight, and by that I mean really fight - go find somebody to teach you the SanDa padwork form. Ask for it by name, you won't be disappointed with the answer.

Thank you for the interesting information.:)

I was not aware that there was a specific SanDa padwork form. So even SanDa has its own forms practice.

I would be grateful if you can give us a link that shows the real form, as the CMA world being what it is (just look at this forum and its dvds....lol) then there may be many false versions of this form floating around on the internet.

Who knows, perhaps even "sifu" Ross can benefit from the info and include the SanDa form in an up and coming "Sanda" DVD.;)

[Mas Judt]

You know, I'd share the form, but it is super-secret. :D

[golden arhat]

Thank you for the interesting information.:)

I was not aware that there was a specific SanDa padwork form. So even SanDa has its own forms practice.

I would be grateful if you can give us a link that shows the real form, as the CMA world being what it is (just look at this forum and its dvds....lol) then there may be many false versions of this form floating around on the internet.

Who knows, perhaps even "sifu" Ross can benefit from the info and include the SanDa form in an up and coming "Sanda" DVD.;)

please tell me your being sarcastic. i cant tell with you

[Hardwork108]

You know, I'd share the form, but it is super-secret. :D
Well the form also seems to be a super-secret as far as Ross is concerned.:D

[Hardwork108]

please tell me your being sarcastic. i cant tell with you

That may be because your intense and positive feelings towards me are clouding your judgment?:eek:

Perhaps I was being a little ironic (at Ross's expense) in the last paragraph of my first post to Mas Judt.;)

[Mas Judt]

Goes to show you, just when it gets really funny, we lose the audience. Vaudeville must have been tough.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You guys need to totally forget about Ross and his silly vids, and instead get something actually useful!


Buy my DVD!!

http://www.ultimateturnon.com/

[Hardwork108]

Goes to show you, just when it gets really funny, we lose the audience. Vaudeville must have been tough.
I am sure that the comedians of Vaudeville would have found a lot of inspiration if they had access to Ross's DVD.;)

[Hardwork108]

You guys need to totally forget about Ross and his silly vids, and instead get something actually useful!


Buy my DVD!!

http://www.ultimateturnon.com/
I think that the first person who should buy that dvd is Ross himself.:D

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

What are yoo say'n? Ross needs to get laid? :p

[Hardwork108]

What are yoo say'n? Ross needs to get laid? :p
That too but before anything else, Ross should learn how to string a sentence together without sending his potential conquest into a deep and irreversable coma.:p