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Tensei85
05-03-2009, 09:55 AM
Hey,

I was wondering if anyone had any info regarding the Mi men tong long quan?
秘門螳螂拳 Secret gate praying mantis fist (or secret door-sometimes)

I've heard one account says its an offshoot of the Taiji tong long quan and another account says it descends from the Mei hua tong long line. any info would be great!


Secret Gate Praying Mantis Boxing (Chinese: 秘門螳螂拳; pinyin: mě mén tángláng quán). This style was passed down by Zhang Dekui (張德奎) in Taiwan and is a variation of Taiji Mantis.
link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Praying_Mantis_(martial_art)#Styles
Mantis Stance


Secret Door
Secret Door Praying Mantis uses low stances and a lot of elbow strikes. Its movements are more complicated than the other styles of the Northern Praying Mantis. It is a close-range fighting style that uses feints to get into the preferred position.
link: http://www.easternmartialarts.com/kungfu_praying_mantis.htm

yu shan
05-04-2009, 06:30 AM
Contact Shifu Kevin Brazier

www.plumflowermantisboxing.com

He can tell you all about Secret Door.

Jim

Tainan Mantis
05-04-2009, 08:59 AM
From My shifu's bio

Shi Zhengzhong's first main teacher of mantis was shifu Zhang Dekui from Qixia County in Shandong province. Master Zhang taught a style of Mantis which he only referred to as Gu Tang Lang, or ancient mantis.

In Zhang's final interview just before he passed away he spoke emotionally of the fact that when he studied mantis as a boy there was no name for the style except Tang Lang Chuan. Later, through books and magazines, Master Zhang's Mantis style came to be known as Mimen Tang Lang Quan (Secret Door Mantis Boxing).

Here are some articles I have written including pictures of Zhang as well as applications of the techniques.

The Double Sealing of the Mantis
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/TLShuangfengxia.htm


The Shaking Step of Mantis
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/shaking%20step.htm


The Waist Chop of Mantis Boxing
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/waist%20chop.htm


The Rising and Falling of the Mantis Fist
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/rising%20and%20falling.htm


Bi Zhou-The Outer Forearm Elbow
http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.com/Articles/bizhou.htm


About the Mantis tree of descent the following styles all descend from Master Liang Xue Xiang:
mei hua
taiji
mei hua taiji
8 Step
Mimen

Tensei85
05-04-2009, 10:02 AM
Awesome! thanks a lot for the articles and info, im reading through them now.