OT: Thoughts on Confucius

[SPJ]

learning without thoughts is labor lost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgALNkRmwh4&feature=popular

what are your thoughts?

:D;):)

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ki6iZ4ZUs&NR=1

:D

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ya0iXB1goc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Cuz8_P7bM&feature=related

:eek::confused::D;):)

[SPJ]

LEER SIN MEDITAR

ES UNA OCUPACION INUTIL.

learning without thinking is labor lost.

Xue Er Bu Si Ze Dai.

学而不思则殆

Si Er Bu Xue Ze Fei

思而不学则废

thinking without learning is labor wasted.

:)

[Kansuke]

Starting a thread no one responds to is also labor wasted.

[Scott R. Brown]

Starting a thread no one responds to is also labor wasted.

"No response" does not necessarily mean "no thought" on the question occured!

Inherently, there is no way to determine if the labor was wasted or not, since we cannot know the true impact on those who have read and considered the question!

[SPJ]

it is a difficult question to answer

the answer would be that we have to analyse or think about what we learn

so that the learning becomes our own

just as if we eat some food, we have to digest it or break it down to smaller units/molecules, our body then absorbs the nutrients and makes proteins of our own etc or assimilates it into our body.


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Kong Fu Zi was a great thinker and not the inventor of confusion.

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most important of all, his thinking may be learned from dialogues between him and his students. there were many questions and answers.

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KFZ proposed the ideal society and how a country may be runned, it is Li.

even thou, his ideas were not acceptted during his life time. however, his thinking or THOUGHTS greatly influenced Chinese culture even today.

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labor is not a good translation, may be effort is better.

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on the other hand, if we think too much without learning some more facts or experiencing more life, then the thinking is limited

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which means we have to study a lot, travel a lot or experience life a lot

and we have to think a lot

which was what KFZ did, he travelled among 6 kingdoms. He taught a lot students.

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etc etc

so thinking and learning are both important.

[SPJ]

Fu Zi is teacher.

Kong is the last name.

Kong Fu Zi is teacher Kong.

He represented a great teacher.

He is a symbol of what a great teacher could be.


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:)

[Lucas]

Also an example of what a great student could be.

[SPJ]

Also an example of what a great student could be.


YES. agreed.

I am not making fun of Miss Panama.

It is a difficult question even for a Chinese speaker.

:D;)