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Pork Chop

07-17-2009, 09:23 AM

1. Is this something that I could work at on my own, at home for instance if I can't make it to class on a regular basis? I have a speed bag and double bag, and also a wavemaster "heavy bag" in my garage, would they be sufficient to keep some of the skills I'm learning up to par if I have to miss a few classes?

I think if you come from a martial arts background, this is a lot more possible.
The important thing will be picking up proper form when you are able to work with an instructor. The rest of the time, yes, you can practice the rest on your own.

Sparring puts everything in perspective, so whether you plan on doing it or not, you're probably not going to be able to say you can box without it (kinda like judo without randori) - just a heads up.

Boxing's all about repetition. As long as someone's occasionally keeping you honest on your form, the bulk of it you can do yourself.

2. What are your thoughts regarding light sparring in boxing?

I think the vast majority of your sparring should be sparring with a purpose - ie one guy jabs over and over, the other guy tries not to get hit, switch roles each round. occasionally you'll want to take things out for a test drive. I've never really felt the need to spar hard more than once a week, though I know of some guys that do it 3 times a week or more.

If you're worried about facial injuries, I suggest shelling out the cash (up to $300) for Winning headgear with the face bar. There's really nothing else out there that can compare. It also does more than other headgears when it comes to reducing concussions.

3. What are your thoughts on boxing training as a supplement to another art such as judo? I know MT is what every wants to train in my area, but I'm just not into kicks that much. But I guess that's the MMA mindset, but I'm not much into that either....

A lot of guys in MMA don't kick much - I'm even talking top guys. So yeah, don't worry about not kicking. Boxing + takedowns works really well if you're thinking of mma - just make sure you have good kick defense. Even if you did do Muay Thai, it's recommended that you spend some amount of time picking up boxing.

I think Boxing and wrestling or Judo are great compliments to any martial art. The only issue can come when body mechanics interfere with each other. In the earlier example of Muay Thai plus boxing- pure muay thai has a very back-weighted stance; boxing is very front-weighted. This can be tricky to put together sometimes. Some guys will shift forward to a front-weighted stance if they plan on punching & that can be a bad "tell" (telegraph).

Just keep separate things separate and you should be good.

So, what do you think?

I think boxing and judo's a nice combo.
It's actually the combo I'm looking at for myself.
I have a bad issue with my hip right now and I'd like to get out of kicking for a bit.
This kinda stinks because kicks are my most powerful attribute (the only KOs I've done have been by kick).
The footwork between the two may cause you a few headaches, but nothing major - at least they both recommend staying on your toes.

naja

07-17-2009, 09:48 AM

Thanks for the info. I think it's something I should look into. I have a little bit of an MA background, and I don't think I would get confused on the foot work. It seems natural for me that the two go together well, since judo can be worked in from the clinch so well.

I also have hip issues which cause me problems kicking with my right leg. I've been to the doc and PT over it trying to get it fixed, but it seems like the best fix is to just go light on the kicks.

sanjuro_ronin

07-17-2009, 09:55 AM

There are 4 types of sparring I subscribe to:
Light contact - This is where you and partner go at it, NON-PREARRANGED but work on form, footwork, technique and such, its a learning tool.
Hard contact- This is sparring in which you and your partner hit HARD ENOUGH to keep it honest but do NOT try to KO they other.
FUll contact - Knock the MOFU out.
Most boxing sparring falls into the Hard contact, as does most MT, KB, MMA.

naja

07-17-2009, 10:11 AM

sanjuro_ronin

07-17-2009, 10:16 AM

Light, Hard, and Full. Got it. So what's the fourth?? :D

Well, if your training is co-ed...
:D

naja

07-17-2009, 10:23 AM

Well, if your training is co-ed...
:D

What?!?! No pics???? Not even from you?!?!?! :D

Ok, I'll do it then....

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4793671/2/istockphoto_4793671-two-sexy-boxers.jpg

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2104667/2/istockphoto_2104667-sexy-blonde-boxer.jpg

AdrianK

07-17-2009, 12:14 PM

naja

07-17-2009, 07:23 PM

Also, the Wavemaster is the standup bag, right? I'd suggest ditching that and getting a hanging heavy bag.
.

I would love to, but I don't think I could fit a decent stand for one in my garage and I don't have anything to hang it from...... :(

Pork Chop

07-18-2009, 11:00 AM

naja

07-18-2009, 10:34 PM

when you're on your own, you'll probably benefit much more (at least at the beginning) from shadowboxing in the mirror than actually hitting something.
so i wouldn't stress over the heavybag situation

I started working with my speed bag again last night, and wow am I outta rhythm on it...

Come to think of it, I've never really tried to absolutely kill that wavemaster.... just really used it for something to make contact with. I was more interested with speed and accuracy than power when I got it.

Syn7

12-01-2010, 09:13 PM

can somebody explain to me why promoters have given up on the pacquiao and mayweather fight that EVERYONE wants to see...???

is this mayweather being himself? a selfish immature douchebag???

like, either his ego is making this impossible or is he acting so egotistical about it becaused hes actually scared???

or is it pacmans camp thats fukcing this up???

SoCo KungFu

12-01-2010, 09:26 PM

Mayweather is a douche with an impending assault trial. Pacman is heading into politics back in the PI and probably will be out of the game by time Mayweather's legal issues are dealt with (assuming he's innocent).

Syn7

12-01-2010, 10:03 PM

the douchery is known and i knew he had a trial soon but i didnt understand why that makes it so he cant be sanctioned... is it cause its assault??? if it was a DUI or a theft would the scenario be different??? so mayweather cant fight cause of this, PERIOD???

SoCo KungFu

12-02-2010, 06:38 AM

The preliminary hearing is set for 24 Jan. Additionally his uncle (trainer) is also awaiting an assault trial due sometime in Jan. Mayweather is out on bail. Depending on the stipulations he may not even be able to leave a certain radius from his home town.

So promoters have to pick a venue that will hold the draw that fight would bring, they have to then wait for it to even be available and then hope that Floyd isn't convicted. You think they're going to drop their money to start reserving a site and promoting the fight only to have it shot down in the case of prison time? And they certainly aren't going to have em fight in the next month and a half.

Promoters aren't going to set up a fight until after they know Floyd's future esp given his history of this type of behavior (this isn't the first time he's been accused of assaulting a girlfriend). By that time Pac is also supposed to be making his way into politics back home. And I don't see him half assing his training for such a big fight while part timing government.

wenshu

12-02-2010, 07:32 AM

By that time Pac is also supposed to be making his way into politics back home. And I don't see him half assing his training for such a big fight while part timing government.

Pacquiao was sworn into congress in the Philippines before he started training for the Margacheato bout. During the first half of training camp in the Philipines, on more than one occasion he was interrupted while working the pads with Roach for government business.

Roach and his S&C coach were not very happy about the distraction and felt Pacman wasn't going into the fight 100%.

Great fight though.

Personally I think it is possible part of it was a plow to bait Money.

If it doesn't happen there isn't much else for Pacman and he'll probably retire.

SoCo KungFu

12-02-2010, 11:37 AM

Pacquiao was sworn into congress in the Philippines before he started training for the Margacheato bout. During the first half of training camp in the Philipines, on more than one occasion he was interrupted while working the pads with Roach for government business.

Roach and his S&C coach were not very happy about the distraction and felt Pacman wasn't going into the fight 100%.

Great fight though.

Personally I think it is possible part of it was a plow to bait Money.

If it doesn't happen there isn't much else for Pacman and he'll probably retire.

Oh I didn't know he had already sworn in and assumed duties. All the more reason though that this fight likely won't happen. Personally I think Mayweather had no intention of fighting anyways and was probably just buying time for Pac to leave.

Lucas

12-02-2010, 11:48 AM

mayweather thanking his lucky stars he was able to fully dodge the pacman, just like those **** blinking ghosts....

wenshu

12-02-2010, 01:52 PM

Personally I think Mayweather had no intention of fighting anyways and was probably just buying time for Pac to leave.

I maintain hope. With so much money involved at some point Mayweather will acquiesce. Especially considering his tax liens and forthcoming legal fees.

Even if he is convicted, I bet they can find a judge to issue some sort of exemption.

If Texas let Margacheato fight they'll definitely sign off on Mayweather/Pacquaio.

He's definitely scared. I think him, his father and uncle are trying desperately to maintain that undefeated record. His reputation for ducking able challengers and fighting chumps is not undeserved.

The shoulder roll is ineffective against south paws, especially one with as much speed and such an unorthodox punching ability as Pacman.

I do think it will be Pacquiao's greatest challenge, there is no denying Mayweather's abilities.

Syn7

12-02-2010, 06:49 PM

Syn7

12-02-2010, 06:53 PM

Syn7

12-02-2010, 06:55 PM

so whos next then??? JMM???

AdrianK

12-02-2010, 11:53 PM

mayweather is such a twitt... im dying to see anyone hurt the guy... maybe hell get thrown into GP and meet the bad end of a toothbrush... hopefully hes in full swing when it happens... we can all dream right... as far as im concerned hes a waste of skin... so unfortunate that a talent like that manifests itself in such a b!tch...

A lot of it is ring personality, to increase his fame, which has worked out as a brilliant business strategy. Maybe he really is like that, maybe not, but none of us know him personally, so who knows. I think Pacquiao is pretty bad himself... He's very diva-ish lately and in the last few 24/7's you can see how irritated Roach and Ariza have gotten with him, and how disrespectful he's become to them now that he's crazy famous and has Michael Koncz to worship him.

AdrianK

12-02-2010, 11:54 PM

so whos next then??? JMM???

Mosley. They don't want a JMM fight because of what happened in the first two JMM fights. The fight is practically signed with Mosley.

Syn7

12-03-2010, 12:06 AM

A lot of it is ring personality, to increase his fame, which has worked out as a brilliant business strategy. Maybe he really is like that, maybe not, but none of us know him personally, so who knows. I think Pacquiao is pretty bad himself... He's very diva-ish lately and in the last few 24/7's you can see how irritated Roach and Ariza have gotten with him, and how disrespectful he's become to them now that he's crazy famous and has Michael Koncz to worship him.

im much more of a freddy roach fan the a pacman fan... i like his fights, but i always saw him as a bit of a d0rk... im not very interested in who he is... as for mayweather... i think i would respect him more if he isnt acting... you know, i'd rather see him as a b!tch than a sell out... he's a sh!tty role model and the fact that what hes pushing is what sells is exactly what i find disgusting about pop culture... like, im litterally embarassed and ashamed for being raised in a culture that would embrace this sh!t...

Syn7

12-03-2010, 12:07 AM

Mosley. They don't want a JMM fight because of what happened in the first two JMM fights. The fight is practically signed with Mosley.

i like mosely... wouldnt bet on him... but ive always been a fan since a first saw him like ten or whatever years ago...

AdrianK

12-03-2010, 12:20 AM

im much more of a freddy roach fan the a pacman fan... i like his fights, but i always saw him as a bit of a d0rk... im not very interested in who he is... as for mayweather... i think i would respect him more if he isnt acting... you know, i'd rather see him as a b!tch than a sell out... he's a sh!tty role model and the fact that what hes pushing is what sells is exactly what i find disgusting about pop culture... like, im litterally embarassed and ashamed for being raised in a culture that would embrace this sh!t...

I wouldn't call it being a sell-out. Personalities like Pacquiao's and Mayweather's are what keeps boxing going. I agree that pop culture sucks, but the fact that they can make money off of enough stupid people to keep something that I love, going strong, I can't complain. I don't pay attention to the attitudes anymore, just the fights. I've always disliked Mayweather's personality but when I took that out of the equation, he's a seriously amazing boxer and I'd hate to see him lose to Pacquiao simply because in my opinion, he represents some of the highest level skills in the sport.

AdrianK

12-03-2010, 12:21 AM

i like mosely... wouldnt bet on him... but ive always been a fan since a first saw him like ten or whatever years ago...

Mosley was great. He doesn't have the physical or mental ability to keep up with Pacquiao anymore though.

Syn7

12-03-2010, 12:46 AM

I wouldn't call it being a sell-out

i would... i did... and i will continue to do so aslong as he keeps being the guy he is...

wenshu

12-03-2010, 08:23 AM

A lot of it is ring personality, to increase his fame, which has worked out as a brilliant business strategy. Maybe he really is like that, maybe not, but none of us know him personally, so who knows. I think Pacquiao is pretty bad himself... He's very diva-ish lately and in the last few 24/7's you can see how irritated Roach and Ariza have gotten with him, and how disrespectful he's become to them now that he's crazy famous and has Michael Koncz to worship him.

Pacquaio has always been like this. I think it was his loss against Morales where Roach was complaining about Pacquiao spending all night out at the karaoke bar during training camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTzqra_xyhw&feature=player_embedded

He is so insanely popular, but he seems very down to earth, never really bad mouths other fighters. I mean, he could be a complete d ick in real life for all I know but I don't really think he is a diva. Not like Beyonce is a diva.

Mayweather is the opposite, full of s hit talking bravado, flashing wads of cash all over the place. Plays into the whole MTV cribs hip-hop persona, hanging out with 50 cent etc. Could be the sweetest guy in the world for all I know.

Syn7

12-03-2010, 08:14 PM

Pacquaio has always been like this. I think it was his loss against Morales where Roach was complaining about Pacquiao spending all night out at the karaoke bar during training camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTzqra_xyhw&feature=player_embedded

He is so insanely popular, but he seems very down to earth, never really bad mouths other fighters. I mean, he could be a complete d ick in real life for all I know but I don't really think he is a diva. Not like Beyonce is a diva.

Mayweather is the opposite, full of s hit talking bravado, flashing wads of cash all over the place. Plays into the whole MTV cribs hip-hop persona, hanging out with 50 cent etc. Could be the sweetest guy in the world for all I know.

u see, thats what im saying... i hope he's a douchebag, coz i can respect that more than just pretending to be one for socio-economic gains... to me, this isnt even a debate... its just a reality... i dont know which one he is, but either way im dissapointed... and thats all based on what he's chosen to show us...

i dont really care about pac one way or the other... he fights good, i like that, but then so does mayweather and i like that too...

but mayweather probably thinks of himself as a newschool jack johnson... where he's wrong is that jack johnoson moved his whole people foreward, mayweather is just leaching off an image purely for personal gains, arguable holding back his whole demographic... so even if jack johnsons reasons were full ego, it was a diff time and far more understandable... walking round with his two whitegirls in tow, jack johnson was an enigma... mayweather is a ****roach...

Xiao3 Meng4

09-12-2011, 09:50 PM

My next-door neighbor recently joined a local boxing club. He showed up at my door today, wanting to spar. I said sure, and we went off to the park.

Before we started, I assured him that I would not use kicks, throws, grabs, elbows, knees, headbutts, etc.

We started sparring. I sparred using just punches from shoulder width, lead-leg stances. I'd switch lead legs every once in a while, either by stepping back, stepping through, or stepping half-n-half. After about a minute, he said "You can't move your feet like that, you know. It's illegal in boxing. The ref will call you on it."

WTF :confused:

I don't know much about boxing, however it's my understanding that, as long as you don't strike or block with the legs, you can use whatever footwork you want. I know that boxers have "preferred stances" and "preferred footwork" but I thought it was just that - "preferred," not written in the rule-book.

Meanwhile, he maintained that the "only legal stance in boxing" was a side-facing, narrow, lead leg stance, "like in fencing."

Can anyone in the know please clarify this for me?

Dragonzbane76

09-13-2011, 08:30 AM

There is no set stance in boxing. You can switch up as many times as you want, but most coachs will say its best to stay in one stance.

Xiao3 Meng4

09-13-2011, 10:27 AM

Thanks for the reply.

Can anyone else confirm this?

sanjuro_ronin

09-13-2011, 10:32 AM

Bare in mind that the only experience I have is Amateure and professional ( semi-pro) rules and trained at only one of the best boxing gyms in Toronto (Sully's Gym).
The answer is NO, there are NO RULES against switching stances or ANY stances at all.

Xiao3 Meng4

09-13-2011, 11:06 AM

Bare in mind that the only experience I have is Amateure and professional ( semi-pro) rules and trained at only one of the best boxing gyms in Toronto (Sully's Gym).

LOL, "only." ;)

The answer is NO, there are NO RULES against switching stances or ANY stances at all.

I suspected as much. Thank you both for your input (and to couch, who filled me in via email.)

Hebrew Hammer

09-13-2011, 12:59 PM

As one who boxes at a boxing gym with absolutely NO professional nor amateur experience...Sanjuro is correct, you can box a horse stance if so choose...I wouldn't recommend it. Most boxing stances are suggested...on your toes, lead leg with one leg back, relatively narrow stance, slight knee bend...but if you watch actually matches, you will see flat footed squared up stances...its all dynamic depending upon your style and what the opponent is doing, or if he's on the ropes so to speak.

Iron_Eagle_76

09-14-2011, 05:40 AM

There are no rules against switching stances according to USA Boxing, the major amateur boxing organization you must join in order to fight golden gloves or any other major amateur boxing circuit. In my amateur experience there were guys who would switch stance, but most would fight either orthodox or southpaw and keep that stance.

Darthlawyer

09-17-2011, 10:04 PM

Meanwhile, he maintained that the "only legal stance in boxing" was a side-facing, narrow, lead leg stance, "like in fencing."

Can anyone in the know please clarify this for me?

Did you even bother to look up a video of someone boxing? Most fighters don't even use that stance. Some fighters using a Philly-shell type defense might use a side-oriented stance, but most boxers have their upper body square to their opponent, with a stance that is kinda like a shortened triangle stance. Feet should width apart one leg a bit forward, one leg a bit back.

wenshu

09-18-2011, 08:04 AM

Meanwhile, he maintained that the "only legal stance in boxing" was a side-facing, narrow, lead leg stance, "like in fencing."

Switching stances can be frowned upon by coaches because unless you know what you are doing you end up exposed with your legs crossed which is a big mistake and a seasoned opponent will capitalize on it. Maybe your friend is misinterpreting admonishments not to do that from his coach as "rules".

but most boxers have their upper body square to their opponent

um, what?

The only time a boxer's upper body is square to his opponent's is when he is about to get KTFO.

Hebrew Hammer

09-18-2011, 03:20 PM

um, what?

The only time a boxer's upper body is square to his opponent's is when he is about to get KTFO.

Apparently you haven't seen much boxing...

viper

09-19-2011, 03:06 AM

As someone who was asked to fight golden gloves and spent a bit of time in the ring. The other blokes are spot on you can river dance for all the rules define would not say it would be good but you can use whatever stance you wish. Your friend needs to show you in the rules where you can`t do it.

Faux Newbie

10-31-2013, 03:30 PM

I like Charley Burley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4

And for those who like some flow, Sugar Ray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8INHy35zWg

Snipsky

10-31-2013, 03:35 PM

I like Charley Burley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4

And for those who like some flow, Sugar Ray

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8INHy35zWg

this is a kung fu forum. if we wanted to talk boxing we'd go to a boxing forum. thanks....NUT again...

Faux Newbie

10-31-2013, 03:44 PM

This is for kung fu people who also like boxing.

Snipsky

10-31-2013, 04:14 PM

i;m not convinced.

Faux Newbie

10-31-2013, 04:22 PM

I suppose you think I'm a returned troll seeking to make a mma argument, that's natural. For my part, I think people who spend time doing that are idiots. Total and complete idiots, whether they believe in what they say or whether they think other people exist solely for their entertainment. 他们没有礼貌。差不多还没有拳法。

Snipsky

10-31-2013, 04:59 PM

it's easy to troll when you remain totally anonymous. it's usually the lowest of the low, weakest of the weak who go around trolling forums stirring up trouble. bullies. my problem is there are too many people on this forum that think they're GODS in martial arts. or gods in fighting. everyone gets beat sometime in their life.

too many of you here on this forum are ignorantly caught up by style instead of the actual person having fighting skills. all you kong foo haters hate kong foo cause yo just don't grasp the truth. the ultimate truth is regardless of what style, can YOU make sh1t work for YOU?

style wars are as stupid as who has the nicest car, biggest house, or any other superficial object.

and the other half who are just about fight fight fight.......you don't realize how fakkin limited you allow yourselves to be out of insecurity/egotism.

soooo missing the whole point.

Spiked

10-31-2013, 05:45 PM

YouKnowWho

10-31-2013, 05:50 PM

他们没有礼貌。差不多还没有拳法。

I can tell you are not Chinese. Many years ago I saw a Kempo Karate ad on newspaper. In that ad, someone put Chinese around all 4 borders as "hardware for sale, hardware for sale, ...".

Snipsky

10-31-2013, 05:51 PM

So what if people remain anonymous. If people know your real identity they sure do not care.

If you were the last descendant of Temugen I would not care.

the fact that you took to time to reply says differently. so i can't trust a word you say.

too chicken sh!t to do it under your real name? what is there for you to fear? if you're so tough, there's nothing for you to hide, right? i don't think YOU are in the martial elite because no elite would ever hang around here dealing with nut jobs.

Faux Newbie

10-31-2013, 07:12 PM

I can tell you are not Chinese. Many years ago I saw a Kempo Karate ad on newspaper. In that ad, someone put Chinese around all 4 borders as "hardware for sale, hardware for sale, ...".

I never said I was Chinese.

GeneChing

08-27-2015, 08:59 AM

I saw another article on this where Nagaowa was referred to as an MMA fighter. :rolleyes:

Filipina boxer 'hurt' by Customs tax bill on championship belt (http://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/103951-filipina-boxer-customs-belt)
Jujeath Nagaowa says she was forced to pay Customs tax on her WIBA world title belt or risk 'losing the only evidence' of her championship victory
Ryan Songalia
@ryansongalia
Published 7:37 PM, August 27, 2015
Updated 7:37 PM, Aug 27, 2015

http://assets.rappler.com/7B9D9B4A9BBF4D3FADA991C7B3A11079/img/011B955F9938490C8D982902B8F868F5/jujeath-nagaowa-20150827_011B955F9938490C8D982902B8F868F5.jpg
BELTED. Female boxer Jujeath Nagaowa fought her pint-sized heart out to win her first world championship, but had one final foe to overcome to receive her belt: The Bureau of Customs. Photo from Nagaowa's Facebook page

MANILA, Philippines – Can you put a price tag on winning a boxing world championship?

The Bureau of Customs apparently thought so and valued Filipina boxer Jujeath Nagaowa’s Women’s International Boxing Association (WIBA) junior flyweight title at P20,147.77 ($431).

The 27-year-old Nagaowa won the Florida-based organization’s 108-pound title on June 6 when she traveled to Macau to defeat Chinese boxer Luo Yu Jie by 10-round decision. The belt only arrived in the Philippines recently, and the BOC billed the Baguio City-born fighter P5,819 ($124 USD) in taxes – P3,027.13 customs duty and P2,782 value added tax – to retrieve the belt.

Nagaowa shared her story to a friend, who made a Facebook post about her plight that went viral. In a post on her own Facebook, Nagaowa (13-15-1, 8 knockouts) says she was able to retrieve the belt with the help of friends.

“Yes, it’s true & yes it hurts, that after battling full 10 rounds of boxing for this belt, & after some days of agony waiting for it's arrival in my place, so much disappointed coz this big thing of mine is also waiting for me for a trade before claiming it,” Nagaowa’s post reads.

“Life must go on (& am just lucky enough with friends) so must have to pay for it than losing the only evidence I could have that once in my existence, I gambled my life for a lifetime treasure that others may take over my throne but can't take this crown.#‎WIBAIntlChampBelt.”

Requests for comment from Nagaowa, her manager Brico Santig, and WIBA representative Ryan Wissow were not returned.

The championship win comes after 8 previous attempts at world titles that ended in defeats. Nagaowa had previously traveled to South Korea, Japan, Australia, Hong Kong, and Thailand in search of championship gold, only to lose oftentimes on close decisions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrTusuGG0o
Nagaowa's championship win over Luo Yu Jie

In addition to competing in boxing, Nagaowa has also fought in mixed martial arts, maintaining a 2-0 record in competitions with One Championship.

Female boxers, even those at the championship level, rarely if ever get television coverage and typically make significantly smaller purses than their male counterparts. Many also work secondary jobs to support themselves, as was chronicled in an article in The Atlantic in January of this year.

One Philippine-based boxing promoter told Rappler that he was “shocked” about Nagaowa’s situation, saying he had never had that issue with Customs before.

“When they see us with belts they greet us with smiles and congratulate us,” said the promoter.

BOC public relations officer Belle Maestro told Rappler that the agency had only heard of her issue through the viral Facebook post on Thursday, August 27. She said no formal complaint had been filed with the office.

“We’re checking right now what really happened,” Maestro said. “We’re also verifying if awards such as a belt is taxable or not. Apparently it may be, but it could be tax exempted if she requested for it.”

Maestro invited Jujeath to coordinate with BOC directly to apply for a tax exemption for the belt with Department of Finance (DOF), which she says could authorize the tax exemption.

BOC Commissioner Alberto Lina tells Rappler he has asked NAIA district collector Edgar Macabeo to explain why the championship belt was taxed. He also ordered Macabeo submit a report on the incident.

“There is a policy that the rewards and trophies may be exempted from paying taxes if they are able to secure a tax exemption from the DOF. If they failed to secure a tax exempt from the DOF, then they would have to pay the duties and taxes,” said Lina. – Rappler.com

boxerbilly

09-22-2016, 07:12 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8UkuuTsmOo

Tricks ? Angels and momentum.

boxerbilly

09-22-2016, 07:13 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRPjJEuOOC0

boxerbilly

09-22-2016, 07:15 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S66Rkmc86dw

These brothers owned the combo model. Goossen's boys.

boxerbilly

09-22-2016, 07:18 AM

Mod or Gene, sorry. Please place thread in other arts forum. Not sure how I messed that up. Sorry.

sanjuro_ronin

09-22-2016, 08:16 AM

The "secret" to Foreman's walking hook was not only her footwork and lead hand work but because it came from underneath via the blindside.
The "cross defense" is common not only in boxing but MT and even Hung Kuen ( though called by different names).
Many reality based self defense systems use variations of it also and what it does is not only protect the chin and face but, if done correctly, offers SOME protection for the liver as well.

MarathonTmatt

09-22-2016, 08:52 PM

wow. foreman was a master. good foot-work staying on the guy.. I would add to sanjuro ronin's comments that such footwork is also found in many chin-na / anti- chin-na techniques in various TCMA systems. but wow that George foreman footage is really something.

edit: not boxing footwork in particular but "sticking" to the other guy. for instance, after foreman throws his right, he has already anticipated that he can slip in his hook. and than when the other guy moves foreman is already able to move in to an advantageous position to unload some more. I guess it reminded me a bit of the maneuvering of some of the chin-na/ anti chin-na techniques I have trained.

SevenStar

09-23-2016, 07:05 AM

the cross defense is seen in 52 blocks and is known as skull and crossbones. There are two variations of it in boxing. the regular cross defense - the crab and the philly shell aka the hitman style. foreman was more of a crab user, as was archie moore. mayweather, james toney and sweet pea whitaker are known for the philly shell.

this style is mainly defensive and makes protects the head extremely well. the body tends to be open more, however a lot of boxers lean and in the case of the philly shell, blade their body to the opponent to compensate for that.

SevenStar

09-23-2016, 07:43 AM

If the philly shell is going to be discussed, the other major style of defense should be mentioned as well: Peek a boo.

https://youtu.be/d_kbC36JESs

aggressive
bobbing and weaving
excellent for setting up hooks and uppercuts
excellent head and body protection

noted users - mike Tyson, Floyd patterson

boxerbilly

09-23-2016, 08:56 AM

Kellen Bassette

09-23-2016, 03:52 PM

the cross defense is seen in 52 blocks and is known as skull and crossbones. There are two variations of it in boxing. the regular cross defense - the crab and the philly shell aka the hitman style.

Not to change the subject, but just a thought...funny how strange the traditional names, (lyrics/poems,) of TCMA seem to many people, without even realizing how much of the same we have in the western arts of boxing and wrestling...imagine how outlandish some of these technique nicknames would be when translated into foreign languages...

MarathonTmatt

09-23-2016, 04:47 PM

My boxing coach was a peek a boo fighter. All 5'3 of him. I never put a glove on the guy when we sparred. Of course he touched me an awful lot. He was a Navy boxer late 50's early 60's I believe.

I myself never used the philly or peekaboo. You need good eyes for that in my opinion. Something I lost at 13 and was prescribed specs. Beautiful styles to watch.

One of my grandfathers was a Navy boxer, WW2 era as well as a coach. And I do believe he learnt some "tricks" overseas - Okinawan, etc. I never learnt anything from him though, I don't know much specifics about boxing (no experience in the sport). I am sitting back enjoying the thread though!

SevenStar

09-24-2016, 04:20 PM

Not to change the subject, but just a thought...funny how strange the traditional names, (lyrics/poems,) of TCMA seem to many people, without even realizing how much of the same we have in the western arts of boxing and wrestling...imagine how outlandish some of these technique nicknames would be when translated into foreign languages...

While I do agree there, the names in boxing came about differently, I think. Names were given based on city, fighter nickname, etc. For example, the philly shell never really had a name. It was just boxing. But to fight that way was common in Philadelphia, hand the name later. The hitman style was a combination of using a philly shell type defense with constantly pressuring your opponent. This made it an entirely different style, because the philly was typically defensive only. This new style was created and used by Tommy "the hitman" Hearns.
In boxing, there isn't a descriptive, poetic name for any technique.

52 blocks is different. As a prison system, I would imagine those names were intentionally created to disguise what was really going on And to identify where you locked up.

SevenStar

09-24-2016, 05:00 PM

Since combos were also addressed, the definition of punches in bunches was sugar Ray Leonard:

https://youtu.be/aX8YgLZvtUc

SevenStar

09-24-2016, 05:05 PM

Notice when Leonard is on defense, the arms fold, the waist bends and the feet move - the Philly shell.

https://youtu.be/u_o-zo6u-PI

SevenStar

09-24-2016, 05:46 PM

Jabbing from the Philly shell like amir does here is more hitman - like.

https://youtu.be/pFkwLQrn4mM

boxerbilly

09-26-2016, 04:15 AM

boxerbilly

09-26-2016, 08:08 AM

https://books.google.com/books?id=A-fXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=full+pivot+blow&source=bl&ots=GZh5_Zqbdi&sig=wp9w7tJPuKSV3eMqVWm3kYVy4vg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj88ffVpq3PAhVFOT4KHekUBpsQ6AEISzAJ#v=on epage&q=full%20pivot%20blow&f=false

Looks like boxing had this before it showed up on karate's tournament scene.

Which is older again ? Point being all arts have everything if we can only see. Often that means looking for decades before ones eyes open and omg there it is.
Individuals may have specialized and focused mainly on only certain aspects of an art do to circumstances, environments, rules, etc. Later versions may drop once common ideas because of the evolution of the art. Evolution is not always good but may be necessary to become adaptive to immediate particulars.

SevenStar

09-27-2016, 10:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FL4mlzWrHA

Baer used an engine as Sifu Sergio calls it, similar to what Sergio speaks of in Cataphract's Martial Man thread.

Also shows Baer briefly training fouls on a bag. Plus a fight clip where Baer uses quarter/ half pivot blows. AKA back hands. A full pivot would be what many of us would call a spinning back fist. These are the blows banned from boxing as to dangerous. Many people are under the impression its that front hand karate type tag backhand. Stating it is to hard to see. Maybe. But Ali used that all the time. Of course he also was not awarded points for blows landing on areas other than the front of the glove. If the backhand lands with the front of the glove it is generally considered a legal jab. Meaning a lot of his jabs did not count. But the killing blow was the half and full pivot blows of old. Along with hacking. One may call those chops. Done with hammer fists, forearms and edge of hand if ungloved.

the hacking you mentioned is called a bolo punch in some fma circles. the first thai boxing school I trained at also taught kali, wing chun and jkd, so we were taught that punch, but they made it known that it was banned. Baer throws some pretty mean bolos in that clip, so now I am wondering when is was banned. he blatantly used a backfist as well.

the flicker jab can sometimes come from an angle that looks like a back fist in motion, but still lands with the front of the glove. a lot of boxers will work using the shoulder, elbow, etc. this is where the term dirty boxing comes from.

GeneChing

10-03-2016, 09:13 AM

Scottish boxer Mike Towell dies after bout (http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/sport/uk-boxer-mike-towell/index.html)
By Laura Smith-Spark and Sarah Faidell, CNN
Updated 9:45 AM ET, Sat October 1, 2016

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Boxer Mike Towell, right, takes on Danny Little in a 2015 welterweight match in Glasgow, Scotland.

Story highlights
"He fought right to the end," Mike Towell's girlfriend says
"My heart goes out" to Towell's family, opponent Dale Evans says

London (CNN)A 25-year-old Scottish boxer has died in Glasgow after being carried out of the ring on a stretcher when his fight was halted in the fifth round.
Mike Towell faced off Thursday night with Welsh boxer Dale Evans in the British welterweight title final eliminator.
After the match, Evans tweeted that his thoughts and prayers were with his opponent.

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But Friday, the St. Andrew's Sporting Club in Glasgow said Towell had died but did not specify the cause.

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A Facebook post from the club said: "Mike collapsed in the ring at the Club after he was stopped in the fifth round and was rushed to hospital after receiving attention from the ringside medical team.
"Sadly 'Iron' Mike -- who was 25 -- could not recover from his injuries and died peacefully late on Friday night with his family at his bedside."
The club described the fighter, from Dundee, as "one of Scotland's most exciting boxing talents."
Chloe Ross, Towell's girlfriend of eight years and the mother of his young son, posted a heartfelt tribute on Facebook.
"Michael had severe bleeding and swelling to his brain. He had been complaining of headaches for the last few weeks but we put it down to migraines with the stress of his fight," Ross wrote.
"It has been the longest 24 hours of our lives. My baby has lost his daddy. But he will be so so proud of his dad in what he achieved."
Towell battled to live, even after being taken off life support, she said. "He managed 12 hours, 12 whole rounds off his life support, he fought right to the end. ..."

Opponent 'devastated'
In a statement released through the club on Twitter, Evans voiced his sadness over what happened.
"I am devastated and all my thoughts are with Mike and his family. The ingredients were there for an entertaining fight and it was that, we are both punchers and so sadly for Mike he came out the wrong side," he said.
"He is such a fantastic fighter, you are happy to win but all I wanted to do was get the victory. Not this. I never wanted to see my opponent being stretchered out of the ring.
"Who would ever want that sight? That was so hard for his family and my heart goes out to them."
Boxing fans took to Twitter to pay tribute to Towell, using the hashtag RIPIronMike.
Chris Jenkins, whose Twitter bio identifies himself as a boxer, called Towell a "true warrior in and out of the ring."

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#RIPIronMike taken away doing what he loved true warrior in and out of the ring thoughts & feeling to his family & friends rest easy champ.
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Another boxer, Anthony Fowler, tweeted, "What a tragedy it is when a man loses his life competing in the sport he loves."

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What a tragedy it is when a man loses his life competing in the sport he loves, devastated to hear the news of Mike Towell #RIPIronMike 🙏 pic.twitter.com/1GGDbg31Xe
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CNN's Milena Veselinovic contributed to this report.
So tragic. :(

mickey

10-04-2016, 03:09 PM

So tragic. :(

Greetings,

Gene,

I smell an all out investigation and lawsuit with this one. I do not think this guy should have been allowed in the ring. Before I even finished reading the article, I knew that there had to be something wrong, pre-existing, with the guy before the fight took place. This was really a terrible event and I feel his demise could have been avoided.

mickey

Jimbo

10-04-2016, 04:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3hZfeAEVE&sns=em

GeneChing

10-13-2016, 10:14 AM

Sad to hear. Another Tyson Champ. Another scandal. :(

Tyson Fury vacates WBO and WBA heavyweight titles to deal with 'recovery' (http://m.bbc.com/sport/boxing/37634849)
9 hours ago

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Fury is unbeaten in 25 fights but has not fought since 29 November 2015

Tyson Fury has vacated his WBO and WBA world heavyweight titles to deal with his "medical treatment and recovery".

The Briton, 28, has admitted taking cocaine to deal with depression and could also lose his boxing licence on Thursday.

He has not fought since beating Wladimir Klitschko in November 2015 and has twice withdrawn from rematches.

"I now enter another big challenge in my life which I know, like against Klitschko, I will conquer," Fury said.

He said it was "for the good boxing" and "only fair and right" to give up his belts.

"I won the titles in the ring and I believe that they should be lost in the ring, but I'm unable to defend at this time and I have taken the hard and emotional decision to now officially vacate my treasured world titles," he said.

In a statement, Fury's promoter Hennessy Sports said the decision would "allow him the time and space to fully recover from his present condition without any undue pressure and with the expert medical attention he requires".

Mick Hennessy added that the decision was "heartbreaking".

Uncle and trainer Peter Fury has said Fury will return "stronger" and "reclaim what's rightfully his".

Fury withdrew from his latest rematch against Ukraine's Klitschko, scheduled for 29 October, because of mental health issues.

He then admitted in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine that he was taking cocaine to help deal with depression.

The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) met on Wednesday to discuss that revelation, as well as other comments by Fury, and could decide to strip him of his licence to box.

The WBO and WBA had already said Fury could lose his titles because of inactivity.

Meanwhile, promoter Eddie Hearn has said a deal is "very close" for Britain's heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua to fight Klitschko for his IBF belt and the now vacated WBA title.

It is thought New Zealand's Joseph Parker and Mexico's Andy Ruiz Jr could now contest the WBO title.

Mike Costello, BBC Radio 5 live boxing correspondent

"First of all, Tyson Fury needs to get himself medically fit then it's up to him and his uncle and trainer Peter Fury and promoter Mick Hennessy to decide what route they want to take.

"Will he be fit enough and able enough to go straight back in for a world title shot or will he need a warm-up contest before he fights again? It's so unclear at this stage because of the medical situation."

Fury timeline

29 November 2015: Beats Wladimir Klitschko to become the WBA, IBF and WBO champion
8 December 2015: Stripped of his IBF title for failing to fight the mandatory challenger
24 June 2016: Postpones July's rematch with Klitschko after injuring an ankle in training
4 August 2016: Charged with a doping offence by the UK's anti-doping body
23 September 2016: Postpones rematch for a second time because he is "medically unfit"
3 October: Appears to retire from boxing, tweeting: "I'm the greatest, and I'm also retired." Three hours later he reverses the decision, tweeting he is "here to stay"
5 October 2016: Reveals he has been taking cocaine to help him deal with depression
10 October 2016: Given extended deadline to convince the WBO not to strip him of his world heavyweight title
12 October: BBBofC meeting starts looking at Fury's boxing licence
12 October: Vacates WBA and WBO titles

What boxing authorities have said

WBO chairman Luis Batista-Salas had said Fury could lose his belt because of "inactivity, breach of contract and performance-enhancing drugs and stimulants".

The WBA president Gilberto Mendoza said Fury deserved a chance "to overcome this situation", but added the Englishman could ultimately lose his title.

There is an option that Fury can be declared as a 'champion in recess'. This means Fury is the mandatory challenger for the belt when he returns to the ring.

Fury is also facing a UK Anti-Doping hearing next month with reports claiming he tested positive for banned substance nandrolone in February 2015.

'None of us know what he is going through'

Trainer and uncle Peter Fury: "It's driven him to despair. I see him being back in the gym in March or April. He'll resume his career."

Billy Joe Saunders: "It is a big mistake, taking his boxing licence away. It is like taking food from a baby," he added. "He needs the licence to pull through."

IBF champion Anthony Joshua: "Tyson is a fighting man, a real talent and he is good for boxing in his own way. It's too easy to point the finger because none of us really know what he is going through."

boxerbilly

10-27-2016, 07:53 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkbJ0f1T_2I

SevenStar

11-01-2016, 07:54 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkbJ0f1T_2I

off topic, I actually met zab. He was cool, but I had an altercation with his brother. had to put him out of a club I was working.

boxerbilly

11-23-2016, 02:10 AM

off topic, I actually met zab. He was cool, but I had an altercation with his brother. had to put him out of a club I was working.

That's always pleasant. Telling VERY skilled dudes that can potentially drop you with one, time to go dude.

Years ago. Charles Murray had a stand off with like a dozen police officers. I forget why he was upset. They did not want to shoot him but he warned any that got to close where going to get knocked out. It eventually cooled out and he was arrested.

I got into a tussle with a bunch in San Clemente . Like 6. Mainly wrestling as I was refusing to be hand cuffed and just kept playing rubber man and pushing and thye got in each others way. Took all of one monster cop to pick me up and slam me. Okay Im ready to be handcuffed now, LOL.

Another time I was acting up and got the billyclub reminder.

What was I thinking ? I was not thinking.

Im still a bit of a hothead. ******. I appologoze for my fits fellows.

GeneChing

01-08-2018, 12:25 PM

We don't always cover boxing (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?54079-Boxing) in our Busted Martial Artists thread (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?48947-Busted-Martial-Artists), but he is an olympic gold medalist.

SEX CRIMES 3 days ago

Olympic gold medalist arrested for alleged lewd acts with a minor (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/05/olympic-gold-medalist-arrested-for-alleged-lewd-acts-with-minor.html)
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Former Olympic gold medalist Paul Gonzales is accused of sexually assaulting minors. (Los Angeles Sheriff's Office)

A former Olympic boxing gold medalist has been accused of sexually assaulting a minor, Los Angeles law enforcement said.

Paul Gonzales, 53, was arrested Friday and was charged with eight felonies including four counts of lewd acts upon a child, sheriff’s officials said in a news release.

Additional details about the allegations were not immediately provided; however Special Victims Bureau detectives were looking for any additional victims who may not yet have come forward with complaints. It's unclear if the charges involved one or more children.

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“Based on the allegations in this case, and the fact suspect Gonzales has trained and mentored kids at the boxing gym for the past ten years, detectives believe there may have been other children in the past that were sexually assaulted by suspect Gonzales,” the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement, according to FOX11.

Gonzales represented the United States at the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles, taking home the light flyweight gold medal in boxing.

Paul Gonzales Jr of the United States stands above silver medallist Salvatore Todisco of Italy on the podium and celebrates winning the Men's Light-Flyweight Boxing final on 11th August 1984 during the XXIII Olympic Summer Games at the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California , United States. (Photo by Getty Images)
Paul Gonzales represented the U.S. at the 1984 Olympic games in Los Angeles, taking home the gold medal. (Getty Images)

Most recently, he served as the head coach at the Eddie Heredia Boxing Club where he worked for 10 years as an employee for the Los Angeles County Parks and Recreation Department, authorities said.

The Los Angeles County Parks and Recreation Department did not immedately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

"This is shocking. It’s surprising," instructor Adrian Villanueva told reporters. "He’s a good coach. He’s always here for the kids and, you know, anyone who needs advice."

Gonzales is currently held at the Men’s Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles on $575,000 bail.

GeneChing

02-14-2018, 09:13 AM

With MMA Losing Steam, 2018 Is Boxing’s Time to Shine (http://www.complex.com/sports/2018/02/with-mma-losing-steam-2018-is-boxings-time-to-shine)
With the popularity and buzz surrounding MMA fading, boxing is poised to recapture the combat sports spotlight.
BY WALLACE MATTHEWS
Matthews has covered boxing since 1983 and followed the piece of Holyfield's ear on its journey covering the fight for the New York Post in 1997.
FEB 13, 2018

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Conor McGregor, UFC's biggest star, has not fought in the octagon since November 2016. Image via Getty/Brandon Magnus/Zuffa LLC

The vaulted ceilings and marble columns of New York's Cipriani’s were bathed in soft blue and red spotlights. Along the side walls of the magnificent room were two open bars, the bottles lined up like rows of soldiers, and the glassware sparkling under the arc lights. Tuxedoed waiters and waitresses carried trays of canapés while a giant TV toward the back of the room played an endless loop of high-resolution images.

“I can’t believe this. It’s like the Academy Awards,’’ said one wide-eyed guest.

More like the cocktail hour at the wedding of Don Corleone’s daughter. But the truth was even stranger than that.

The formal affair was thrown in honor of Showtime Sports announcing its 2018 boxing schedule—or more accurately, for just the first six months of 2018—an ambitious slate of 10 shows featuring a dozen world title fights spread across a half-dozen locations. Not bad for a sport perpetually on the respirator, ravaged by a cascade of woes ranging from an aging fanbase, a dearth of compelling performers, and a formidable young challenger called mixed martial arts.

But like a lot of popular narratives, this one turns out to be not entirely true. For one thing, boxing’s fanbase is getting younger, not older. For another, the fight game has seen an influx of young talent that gave boxing a much needed shot in the arm in 2017. Talk to the right people, and they'll tell you that the young interloper called MMA-slash-UFC may have peaked.

While the Showtime announcement wasn't headline news around the sports world, the shockwaves were felt across the small landscape of combat sports. Most especially 2,000 miles away in Las Vegas. That’s where the Ultimate Fighting Championship is housed, from which president Dana White has been predicting the death of boxing at the hands of mixed martial arts for the better part of a decade.

"My honest opinion of boxing is that boxing will go away," White said in 2010. "I don't wish it any ill will. It's not because the sport isn’t good or anything like that, it's just that it's so fragmented, and so many bad things have happened. Nobody is going to stick their hand in their own pocket and spend their own money to save the sport of boxing, nobody is going to do it."

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The explosion of MMA allowed UFC co-owners to cash out in 2016, selling it for a reported $4 billion. Image via Getty/Brandon Magnus/Zuffa LLC

Well, approximately 25 years after its introduction, MMA and other submission-type combat sports seem to have run into a wall. The word industry insiders and observers use, time and again, is “plateaued.’’ So much for the popular narrative that MMA would be the asteroid that would render boxing, like the dinosaurs, into extinction.

“It hasn’t happened and it’s not going to happen,’’ said Dave Meltzer, publisher of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and one of the main chroniclers of mixed martial arts since its inception approximately 25 years ago. “If boxing dies, it won’t be because of MMA. It will be because of boxing.’’

Like Hyman Roth in The Godfather dying of that same heart attack for 20 years, boxing—which has existed in some form or for 5,000 years—continues to soldier on, and even to thrive in spite of itself.

Boxing’s wounds have been self-inflicted. There's the fragmentation of its championships due to the rise of its corrupt “sanctioning organizations.’’ It's watered down titles by means of shoehorning “junior’’ divisions between the original eight weight classes. The decision to put all of its biggest events on Pay-Per-View is greedy and short-sighted, limiting the size of its audience to a small core of diehards.

Still, the biggest sporting event of 2017 was, essentially, a boxing match: the freak event matching "retired" five-time world champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. against UFC star Conor McGregor. The bout sold more than four million PPV subscriptions at an average of $100 per home, enriching the fighters to the tune of a reported $300 million for Mayweather and $100 million for McGregor, who as a boxer was making his professional debut.

Take Mayweather-McGregor out of the equation and boxing still remains the undisputed champion of combat sports. Despite the hype, most of it flowing from the mouth of White, the bombastic face of UFC, the seven top-grossing combat sports events of all time are boxing matches, and if you include the outlier—Mayweather-McGregor—boxing has the top eight spots.

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Deontay Wilder and Berman Stiverne in 2017. The purses for the top performers in boxing compared to MMA are ridiculously inequitable. Image via Getty/Al Bello

The purses for the top performers in each sport are ridiculously inequitable—again, removing McGregor’s estimated $100 million purse for the Mayweather circus from the mix. Boxing set the world on its ear nearly a half-century ago when Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier were paid an unheard-of $2.5 million each for their epic 1971 battle.

By the 1980s, it became routine for boxers in high-profile main events such as Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Thomas Hearns, and Larry Holmes to earn upwards of $10 million for a single night’s work. More than 20 years ago, Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson were paid $30 million each for their second fight, and as far back as 1927, Gene Tunney cashed a $1 million check for beating Jack Dempsey in the fabled Battle of the Long Count.

And yet, no UFC main event had been guaranteed for anything even close, until the $800,000 paid to Anderson Silva in 2015. UFC’s first million-dollar guarantee went to McGregor in March 2016, and McGregor was arguably as big an attraction in MMA as Tyson had been in boxing. And it is impossible to know for sure what percentage, if any, of UFC’s formidable Pay-Per-View revenue actually goes to the fighters.

A big part of the reason is that unlike boxers, MMA fighters are not protected by the Muhammad Ali Act—a federal law enacted in 2000 to ensure physical and financial protection for boxers. MMA fighters, even the stars, have very little power to negotiate their own purses.

It is true that undercard fighters on MMA events often are paid more than boxers in a similar position. UFC contracts generally call for a minimum $10,000 purse with a matching bonus if the fighter wins, but those fighters are usually far more experienced than their counterparts who fight in boxing preliminaries.

And because of White’s all-powerful position as the one and only real promoter of his sport, there is no comparable outlet for MMA fighters to peddle their skills. It is not unlike the way Vince McMahon runs WWE, in which matches were marketed as events more than matchups of individual fighters, which kept the athletes subservient to the organization.

As a result, MMA/UFC has been unable to develop young stars to take the place of McGregor and Ronda Rousey. Combat sports, which thrive as much on personality as performance—like Mayweather and McGregor—wither when the fighters become faceless and interchangeable.

“My thought is we’ve kind of hit a plateau,’’ said Chris Palmquist, a combat sports journalist who is the COO of MMA.tv. “We’ve definitely seen it. Doesn’t mean it won’t get out of that plateau and grow again. There was an explosion three or four years ago, but the loss of stars like (Ronda) Rousey has hurt, and McGregor hasn’t fought in MMA in over a year.’’
continued next post

GeneChing

02-14-2018, 09:13 AM

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Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter in 2016. A recent Washington Post/UMass Lowell poll revealed that 28 percent of U.S. sports called themselves fans of boxing, as opposed to 25 percent for MMA. Image via Getty/Ed Mulholland

Currently, boxing's star power outshines MMA with heavyweights like Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua; welterweights like Errol Spence Jr., Terence Crawford, Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia, and Jeff Horn; and middleweights like Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin.

Right now the biggest name in MMA is probably George St-Pierre, who had to be lured out of retirement to provide the UFC with an attraction to replace McGregor. And St-Pierre, or GSP, as he is known, is suffering from an illness that night keep him out of the octagon for all of 2018.

Rousey announced her future is in wrestling and no one knows if the unpredictable McGregor—who shouted, “Watch me take over boxing!’’—will ever fight again, in the octagon or in a boxing ring.

To illustrate the dearth of quality attractions in MMA/UFC these days, insiders talk of a projected bout between the oft-suspended Jon Jones and 40-year-old Brock Lesnar as a “dream matchup.’’ As a result, not only has MMA not pulled away from boxing, as many expected, it has in fact lagged behind.

“MMA had big declines in everything but revenue in 2017,’’ Meltzer said. “And the revenue increases were all because of one fight [Mayweather-McGregor].’’

The explosion of MMA a couple of years ago, allowed White, the president of UFC, and Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, the co-owners, to cash out in 2016, selling UFC to the William Morris Endeavor-International Marketing Group for a reported $4 billion.

"THE BOOK ON UFC HAS YET TO BE WRITTEN. BUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT REPORTS OF THE DEATH OF BOXING ARE GREATLY EXAGGERATED."

A big part of the sales pitch to WME-IMG was that UFC, which was near the end of a $168 million TV deal with Fox Sports, would be renewed for something like $400 million in 2018, according to industry insiders. But negotiations have reportedly have hit a snag, with Fox offering something like $200 million, due to declining ratings in 2017.

The primary reason for that decline is because MMA, and particularly UFC, has not performed as expected with its much sought-after younger demographic.

White was quoted as saying, “UFC is definitely a younger guy’s sport. Our target audience is anywhere from age 17 to 35," but in actuality the audience is getting older. According to a Sports Business Journal report published in June, MMA had a decidedly younger audience than boxing in 2006. The median age of an individual identifying as an MMA fan was 34. The median age of a boxing fan was 47.

Ten years later, Sports Business Journal says the median age for fans of both sports was exactly the same: 49. Which means, of course, that while the original MMA/UFC crowd has aged, the sport has not attracted many younger fans.

Perhaps most surprisingly, the median age for boxing and MMA was younger than that of the NFL (50), college football and basketball (52), and MLB (57). Only the NBA (42) and MLS (40) had younger audiences, respectively. And a recent Washington Post/UMass Lowell poll revealed that 28 percent of U.S. sports fans called themselves fans of boxing, as opposed to 25 percent for MMA.

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The truth is, while professing to have learned from the mistakes of boxing promoters—“I watch boxing to see how not to do it,’’ White has said—UFC has, in fact, repeated many of boxing’s most egregious errors by watering down its championships, creating “interim’’ titles, and over-saturating the marketplace with too many events, a mistake the NFL seems to be making as well.

And due to complaints from some of its athletes about their inability to negotiate purses in line with UFC’s astronomical profits, MMA might soon find itself compelled to abide by the provisions of the Muhammad Ali Act. A hearing was held on Capitol Hill in November on the matter, with Randy Couture, one of the UFC’s biggest former stars, giving strong testimony in favor of regulation.

“The book on UFC has yet to be written,’’ said Stephen Espinoza, the president of Showtime Sports, “but it’s pretty clear that reports of the death of boxing are greatly exaggerated.’’

Espinoza worked with Dana White on the Mayweather-McGregor promotion, an association that ended acrimoniously when White accused Showtime of under-reporting the bout’s PPV numbers.

White, who declined a request to be interviewed for this story, went public with their feud, calling Espinoza “a weasel,’’ and vowing never to work with Showtime again.

But where, exactly, will he work next?

Although he retains his position as president of the UFC, in November White told the Los Angeles Times, “I’m getting into boxing 100 percent.’’

Of all the available evidence showing that boxing has more than wrestled MMA to a draw, that might be most telling of all.

Personally, I've always felt that boxing is a better stadium sport. You can see the action from ****her away. For MMA, I always end up watching the bulk of it on the big screen monitors.

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GeneChing

10-19-2018, 08:59 AM

Richest contract in the history of sports

Canelo Alvarez signs 5-year, 11-fight deal worth minimum $365 million with DAZN (http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/25003974/canelo-alvarez-signs-5-year-11-fight-deal-worth-365-million-dazn)
Oct 17, 2018
Dan Rafael
ESPN Senior Writer

As the old saying goes, as one door closes, another one opens.

Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions stable of fighters, including Canelo Alvarez, the unified middleweight world champion and boxing's biggest superstar, have long been stalwarts of HBO. But with the premium cable network's recent announcement that after 45 years of putting on most of the biggest fights in boxing it was bowing out of the sport at the end of the year, they were in need of a new broadcast home -- and they have landed a very lucrative one with new sports streaming service DAZN through 2023.

In a record-shattering deal finalized early Wednesday morning, Alvarez signed a five-year, 11-fight deal worth a minimum of $365 million with DAZN, which only launched in the United States in September.

It will commence with his move up to super middleweight to challenge secondary world titlist Rocky Fielding on Dec. 15 at Madison Square Garden in New York, where they will meet face-to-face at the kickoff news conference on Wednesday afternoon.

Alvarez's deal is the richest athlete contract in sports history, eclipsing the 13-year, $325 million agreement that New York Yankees slugger Giancarlo Stanton signed in 2014 when he was with the Miami Marlins.

"Canelo is the highest-paid athlete in the world. He's extremely happy," De La Hoya told ESPN after Alvarez signed.

HBO had the right of first negotiation and a last-look provision for Alvarez's fight with England's Fielding (27-1, 15 KOs), and the network made an offer for an HBO PPV event, but it elected not to match the one made by DAZN.

Although rumors that the deal was imminent have swirled for a few days, it was not finalized until after 1 a.m. ET Wednesday, when Alvarez, accompanied by manager Chepo Reynoso and trainer Eddy Reynoso, signed the contract following a lengthy meeting with De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions president Eric Gomez at a hotel in New York's Times Square.

Alvarez is boxing's biggest pay-per-view star of the post Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pacquiao era, generating hundreds of millions of dollars for events on HBO PPV and, before that, Showtime PPV. But the move to DAZN will take him off HBO PPV -- where his fights cost around $80 apiece for viewers -- and place his two fights per year on the all-sports streaming service that charges $9.99 a month for a slew of combat sports offerings.

When Alvarez was fighting on pay-per-view, he would earn money for every buy above a set threshold beyond his guaranteed purse. But even though DAZN doesn't offer pay-per-view, Alvarez can still earn even more money beyond his guarantee based on specific subscription benchmarks that DAZN can reach during the course of the deal.

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Canelo Alvarez, right, signs his record DAZN deal with Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions. Courtesy of Oscar De La Hoya

"This is only from my hard work," Alvarez told ESPN shortly after he signed the paperwork. "The most important thing to me was being able to give the fans the opportunity to see me fight without having to pay the $70 or $80 for my fights on pay-per-view. That was the most important thing, more important than what I am making.

"It's very important for me to give the fans the biggest fights and the most important fights, and I promise you I will always do that. The December fight with Fielding is a dangerous fight. I am moving up in weight, and I don't know how my body will feel. But I always want to take on challenges, and I am very happy my fans will be able to see me fight for a small cost."

Alvarez said he was not worried that he was moving to an unproven broadcast platform.

"Never. I was never worried because I'm very confident in myself," he said. "I know how important I am to any platform I go to. I am very grateful to HBO and to Showtime for what they did for my career, but I am happy we're moving forward and that I will be able to fight on a platform that is the future. I've always liked a challenge, and this is yet another challenger in my career.

"Being part of this historic deal will require me to prepare myself even more and offer fans even better performances. At the same time, I am humbled to be selected to lead this new vision for the sport of boxing, which will without a doubt be for the benefit of the fans."

Although Alvarez is the centerpiece of the deal, De La Hoya had leverage to use Alvarez to secure dates and license fees from DAZN for his company's non-Alvarez events. The deal, for which financial terms were not disclosed, calls for Golden Boy to put on up to 10 "high-caliber fight nights" per year that will stream live on DAZN beginning in early 2019.

Those fights would include Golden Boy's other top fighters, including junior welterweight and former three-division world titlist Jorge Linares, junior featherweight titlist Rey Vargas, middleweight contender David Lemieux, featherweight contender Joseph Diaz Jr. and junior featherweight contender Diego De La Hoya, as well as junior lightweight Ryan Garcia and junior welterweight Vergil Ortiz Jr., two of boxing's top prospects.

"This is huge for boxing, huge for Canelo and huge for Golden Boy," De La Hoya said. "Golden Boy is at the forefront of something very monumental for the sport of boxing."

Because of how well the pay-per-view sold, Alvarez (50-1-2, 34 KOs), 28, of Mexico, earned around $50 million for his rematch with Gennady Golovkin, whom he outpointed to win the unified middleweight title on Sept. 15 in the year's biggest fight. Now, Alvarez will get a fee from well-funded DAZN for his events as the streaming service tries to make inroads in the United States after previously launching in Japan, Italy, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Canada, where the Golden Boy and Alvarez fights also will be included with subscriptions.

"This is easily one of the best days in the growing history of Golden Boy Promotions," De La Hoya said. "We are committed to making this sport as accessible as possible and at an affordable price for all the fans. My dream has been to make boxing a sport for all. DAZN has the perfect platform to make this dream come true, and with the biggest star in the sport at the helm of this journey, I have no doubts that we will succeed in unimaginable ways."

When HBO announced in late September that it would cease televising boxing, De La Hoya and Gomez immediately began looking for a new home. They talked to ESPN, Turner and Showtime, with which they once had a deal and where Alvarez had his biggest pay-per-view fight (a 2013 loss to Mayweather).

But about two weeks ago, De La Hoya and Gomez also met with John Skipper, the executive chairman of Perform Group, DAZN's parent company, in Los Angeles. De La Hoya and Skipper already knew each other from when Skipper was the president of ESPN and Golden Boy had a limited deal for a series of boxing events on the network; and they were able to make this deal in relatively short order because De La Hoya needed a home for his fighters and Skipper, with money to spend, needed content for the new service.

"We were able to reach a conclusion of what Canelo is worth today and what he is worth tomorrow, and we worked out this deal," De La Hoya said.

Said Skipper: "We are thrilled to be exclusive partners with Golden Boy Promotions and Oscar De La Hoya. By bringing Canelo's fights to DAZN, we will turn his pay-per-view success into a growth engine for subscribers -- a truly transformational moment for our business and the entire industry."

By signing Alvarez, DAZN now is the home for boxing's two most significant superstars, as it also is the American broadcast location for unified heavyweight world titleholder and British fighter Anthony Joshua. Joshua's promoter, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Boxing, signed an eight-year, $1 billion deal with DAZN in May to deliver 16 events annually in the United States, along with the 16 per year he already was putting on the United Kingdom. That deal kicked off Sept. 22 with Joshua's title defense against Alexander Povetkin.

The deal with Golden Boy also will give DAZN access to the roughly 7,000-hour library of Golden Boy's fights, including from De La Hoya's Hall of Fame career. Golden Boy Media and Entertainment also will produce various shoulder programs to complement the live events.

DAZN, whose other boxing property is the World Boxing Super Series and its three second-season tournaments, is the latest entrant into a crowded boxing broadcasting field, even as HBO winds down its historic run.

ESPN and Top Rank recently tore up a four-year deal made in 2017 and entered into a new seven-year agreement that runs until August 2025 and calls for 54 live boxing events annually between ESPN and ESPN+. Al Haymon's Premier Boxing Champions recently completed a four-year rights deal with Fox that begins in December, and it also finalized a new three-year deal with longtime partner Showtime.

GeneChing

01-11-2019, 08:53 AM

JANUARY 7, 2019 / 10:49 PM / 3 DAYS AGO
French ministers aghast at support for boxer who fought police (https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1P20FK)
Sudip Kar-Gupta, Emmanuel Jarry
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PARIS (Reuters) - A former French boxing champion who surrendered to police after he was filmed raining blows on riot officers during a “yellow vest” protest has received tens of thousands of euros in public donations, infuriating government ministers.

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A website set up to raise funds for the boxer Christophe Dettinger showed early on Tuesday that it had received pledges of more than 114,000 euros (£102,316) to help him.

Saturday’s assault by Dettinger on police blocking a bridge over the river Seine has come to symbolise the increasingly violent nature of the protests against President Emmanuel Macron’s government.

Some among the protesters have hailed Dettinger a hero, but senior officials took offence.

“Contributing to a fundraising kitty to support someone who attacked an officer is tantamount to being an accomplice to these grave acts of violence,” said Marlene Schiappa, junior minister for equality.

Labour Minister Muriel Penicaud called the campaign “incomprehensible”. “How can these people tell their children, the young, that violence is the answer?” she told CNews television.

Leetchi, an online fundraising platform and unit of Credit Mutuel Arkea bank, later on Tuesday said it was no longer disclosing how much had been raised. It then closed the page to further cash contributions, though it said all citizens had the right to raise funds to defend themselves.

“We will of course be very vigilant over how this money is used,” Leetchi said in a statement.

“We will run checks to ensure it is only used to pay legal bills on presentation of a lawyer’s bill.”

Several Facebook pages entitled “Support for Christophe Dettinger” have been set up. One had more than 3,000 “likes”.

“I REACTED BADLY”

Dettinger turned himself in on Monday, saying he was trying to defend himself and other demonstrators, though he acknowledged: “I reacted badly”.

The boxer remains in police custody.

The twice national light-heavyweight champion was caught on camera jumping over the railings of a pedestrian bridge blocked by baton-wielding police before swinging blows at two officers, forcing them to retreat.

One was floored briefly, where Dettinger was seen kicking out at him, but the policeman managed to get up and retreat. Punches also connected with an officer’s head, footage showed.

Nicknamed the “Gypsy of Massy”, the 1.92m (6ft 4in) tall boxer was taking part in an eighth Saturday of anti-government protests that have undermined Macron’s authority.

“Good luck to you, hero of the people!” wrote one supporter, Karim Slimani, on Dettinger’s fundraising website page.

The “yellow vests” movement - named after the fluorescent jackets all French motorists have to carry in their vehicles - started in mid-November as a protest against a fuel tax but have since grown into a broader backlash against the government.

Reporting by Sudip Kar-Gupta and Emmanuel Jarry; Editing by Michael Perry and Andrew Cawthorne

I dunno - politics aside, based on this story, I have to side with the cops. Dettinger jumped over the rails. That doesn't sound like self defense.

GeneChing

07-25-2019, 08:44 AM

I thought about posting this under the MMA deaths, but boxing (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?54079-Boxing) felt more like something that should be posted in Martial Arts Deaths (http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?52484-Martial-Arts-Deaths)

Boxer Maxim Dadashev, who suffered severe brain injury during Friday fight, has died at 28 (https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/ny-boxer-maxim-dadashev-died-20190723-e4f3z2nxuzfjnfyajdx2owuaji-story.html)
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Maxim Dadashev receives attention in his corner after his corner threw in the towel following the eleventh round of his junior welterweight IBF World Title Elimination fight against Subriel Matias (not pictured) at The Theater at MGM National Harbor on July 19, 2019 in Oxon Hill, Maryland. (Scott Taetsch/Getty Images)

Russia-born boxer Maxim Dadashev has died from injuries suffered in the ring. He was 28.

His death was first confirmed by his trainer James “Buddy” McGirt and Donatas Janusevicius, Dadashev’s strength and conditioning coach, and later by the Russian Boxing Federation.

“The Russian Boxing Federation expresses deep condolences to Maxim’s relatives and close ones,” the federation said in a statement. “We mourn together with you.”

The rising star — who beat two former world lightweight champions, Darleys Perez and Antonio DeMarco, last year — was promoted by Top Rank Boxing.

“Maxim was a terrific young man,” Top Rank boss Bob Arum said in a statement. “We are all saddened and affected by his untimely death.”

Dadashev, who collapsed after a loss to undefeated Subriel Matias in their junior welterweight (140-pound) bout at the Theater at MGM National Harbor in Oxon Hill, Maryland on Friday, underwent surgery early Saturday morning to relieve swelling on his brain.

He was then reportedly placed in a medically induced coma.

Dadashev, originally from St. Petersburg, Russia, who had not lost in 13 previous fights, collapsed in the aisle as he tried to leave the ring under his own power, and vomited, before being placed on a stretcher and rushed to a local hospital.

The fight — an IBF World Title Elimination fight, with the winner earning the right to challenge IBF title-holder Josh Taylor — had been stopped by McGirt before the 12th-round bell.

McGirt was seen on video pleading with Dadashev to let him end the fight.

“Max, you’re getting hit too much,” McGirt said after the 11th round. “Please, Max, Please.”

Dadashev wouldn’t give up so McGirt ended the fight by telling the ringside physician, “That’s it, doc.”

“I didn’t want him to go in the 12th round either,” Dadashev’s manager Egis Klimas told ESPN after the fight.

But he didn’t think his boxer was in serious danger.

“It never looked like Max was, like shook down, or he was already, like, going down,” Klimas said, “I never saw that.”

The fight was the co-main event on the Friday card aired by ESPN.

“I just hope that Maxim is all right,” said Matias after the fight, per The Washington Post. “He is a great fighter and a warrior.”

The neurosurgeon who performed the two-hour surgery on the boxer Saturday morning told his manager that Dadashev was showing signs of severe brain damage, ESPN reported.

GeneChing

07-25-2019, 01:51 PM

woah. wth boxing?

Santillan, 23, is second boxer to die this week (https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27255784/santillan-23-second-boxer-die-week)
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Argentine boxer Hugo Alfredo "Dinamita" Santillan died Thursday in Buenos Aires of injuries suffered in the ring during Saturday's draw against Uruguayan fighter Eduardo Javier Abreu. He was 23.

Dr. Graciela Olocco from Hospital Agudos San Felipe confirmed the death on Thursday morning to media outlets.

Santillan underwent surgery for a clot in his brain and twice went into cardiorespiratory failure before he died of cardiac arrest at 12:35 a.m. local time Thursday, Olocco said.

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RIP Hugo Santillan.

He passed away from injuries suffered during Saturday’s fight which ended in a draw.

We join Hugo’s family and friends in grief, support and wish prompt resignation.

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Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev died Tuesday after suffering a similar brain injury during Friday's fight in Maryland against Subriel Matias of Puerto Rico. He was 28.

Santillan (19-6-2), a super lightweight, made his pro debut in 2015. Eight of his 19 victories came by knockout. He was the son of fighter Hugo Alfredo Santillan and was from the same region, Santa Fe, as Marcos Rene "Chino" Maidana.

According to ringside reports, Santillan's nose began to bleed in the fourth round and, though he raised his arm in victory after the fight, he passed out as the judges were announcing the draw -- scored 95-95, 93-97 and 96-94 -- against Abreu (10-1-1).

"Upon admission to the hospital, he had successive kidney failure and he did not come out of his coma," Olocco said. "He had swelling of his brain and he never recovered consciousness. The swelling continued to worsen, and it affected the functioning of the rest of his organs."

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GeneChing

10-04-2019, 09:12 AM

The world's first transgender professional boxer is now the face of Everlast (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/sport/transgender-boxer-everlast-trnd/index.html)
By Allen Kim, CNN
Updated 3:00 PM ET, Fri September 27, 2019

(CNN)Everlast, the leading brand in boxing, has chosen an unlikely athlete to be the new face of the brand.
The company picked Patricio Manuel for its "Be First" campaign. Manuel is the first transgender boxer to compete professionally.
As a woman, Manuel was a USA National Amateur Boxing Champion and was invited to compete in the 2012 Olympics trials.
However, a shoulder injury during Olympic qualifying changed everything, Everlast said in a news release.
While Manuel was recovering from the injury he decided to transition from female to male. It proved to be the toughest fight of his life.
He was shunned and abandoned by his trainers and gym, and he had to fight the boxing commissions until they recognized regulations on transgender people in the sport, the news release said.

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Manuel had an uphill battle to fight to get back in the ring.

Against all odds, Manuel fought his way back into the sport and became the first person to compete in a professional boxing match as a transgender fighter. On December 8, 2018, Manuel climbed into the ring against Hugo Aguilar at the Fantasy Spring Resort Casino in Indio, California, and came out a winner.
The six-year journey proved to be worth the wait.
"I'm incredibly honored to have been selected to tell my story in Everlast's Be First campaign," Manuel tells CNN. "Everlast is such a fixture in the sport and to have such an iconic athletic company recognize me as I am -- as a professional boxer who is transgender -- is a dream come true."
There may be no other fighter who embodies the campaign's focus on challenging people to carve their own path to success better than Manuel, and he is paving the way for others to follow him.
"At a time when transgender people are being questioned whether we have a place in the sporting world or even being recognized by the world at large, for Everlast to endorse me is huge," Manuel said. "It's a bold statement and I think it personifies the saying 'Be First.'"
"I really hope it pushes other companies to think outside the box. This world is so incredibly diverse, we all deserve to have our identities and stories highlighted."

Would it be inappropriate to say that this is a really ballsy move on the part of Everlast?

Probably. It's so hard to stay PC nowadays. :o

GeneChing

10-17-2019, 08:11 AM

Boxer Patrick Day Dies From Traumatic Brain Injury Suffered in Super Welterweight Fight (https://www.si.com/boxing/2019/10/16/patrick-day-dies-brain-injury-charles-conwell-fight?xid=socialflow_facebook_si&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=sportsillustrated&fbclid=IwAR11iBIyUiOu7-LkqwblXsohrcBVmKbRLMFhUzFuiSLK8Lkwej7Ux0WmZak)
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Patrick Day dies after suffering traumatic brain injury in welterweight fight

Junior middleweight Patrick Day has died from injuries sustained in his 10th-round knockout in Chicago on Saturday night, the boxer’s management company, DiBella Entertainment, announced on Wednesday.

According to the statement, Day succumbed to the traumatic brain injury he suffered in his title bout loss to defending champion Charles Conwell. He was surrounded by his family, close friends and members of his boxing team at the time of his death.

"On behalf of Patrick's family, team, and those closest to him, we are grateful for the prayers, expressions of support and outpouring of love for Pat that have been so obvious since his injury," the statement read.

Day, 27, fell to the canvas on Saturday after falling under a barrage of punches in the 10th and final round. Day was treated by a doctor in the ring and then was rushed off on a stretcher by paramedics and transported to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, where he underwent emergency brain surgery and fell into a coma shortly afterward.

As of Sunday evening, Day was still in a coma and was in “extremely critical condition,” per DiBella Entertainment.

In an emotional open letter to Day on Monday, Conwell said he had replayed the fight "over and over in my head" and was riddled with feelings of guilt and regret over the outcome.

"If I could take it all back I would. No one deserves for this to happen to them," Conwell wrote in the post. "I prayed for you so many times and shedded so many tears because I couldn't even imagine how my family and friends would feel."

DiBella Entertainment added that Day's death made it "very difficult to explain away or justify the dangers of boxing at a time like this."

"This is not a time where edicts or pronouncements are appropriate, or the answers are readily available. It is, however, a time for a call to action," the team said. "While we don't have the answers, we certainly know many of the questions, have the means to answer them, and have the opportunity to respond responsibly and accordingly and make boxing safer for all who participate. This is a way we can honor the legacy of Pat Day. Many people live much longer than Patrick's 27 years, wondering if they made a difference or positively affected their world. This was not the case for Patrick Day when he left us. Rest in peace and power, Pat, with the angels."

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GeneChing

03-08-2021, 11:21 AM

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Plant-Based Boxer, GWOAT, Wins Fight for Double Championship, Gender Equality (https://thebeet.com/plant-based-boxer-fights-for-equality-watch-the-bout-tonight/)
Hailey Welch Published: March 5, 2021
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This story was updated Saturday, March 6th, 2021.

Last night Claressa Shields won the right to call herself GWOAT, Greatest Woman of All Time, becoming the first fighter, man or woman, to win an undisputed championship in two weight classes, by beating contender Marie-Eve Dicaire, for the title of World Champion, Junior Middleweight Division. Shields was already the reigning titleholder in the Middleweight division, and now she can wear her GWOAT ring with pride.

An outspoken advocate of equal pay and gender equality in the sport of boxing, and in every arena, Shields is putting her hard work and right cross hook where her mouth is, by drawing an ever-growing number of fans to the still mainstreaming sport of female boxing. She is also taking the gloves off to compete in mixed martial arts, and we can expect to hear more from her in the future. already the only boxer, man or woman to ever win two back-to-back Olympic Gold Medals, Shields' star is on the rise.

On March 5th Sheilds entered the ring n her hometown of Flint Michigan for her first-ever home-town bout, to show that: 1. Plant-based athletes kick-ass and 2. Equality for women all over the world still has a long way to go. (Perhaps not in that order.) The fight was dedicated to raising awareness for women's equality and pay equity in advance if International Women's Day, which is Monday, March 8th.

Equality, Pay Equity, and Fighting for What's Right

Shields is a great ambassador for both causes since she has been fighting and winning since she was 17 when she won her first Olympic Gold Medal in 2012 in London, England. Never count a vegan or plant-based athlete out. Novak Djokovic just won his ninth grand slam, at the Australian Open, on a plant-based diet. Tom Brady just won his seventh Superbowl Ring on a mostly plant-based diet. World Class Champion Surfer Tia Blanco wins her meets on a plant-based diet, and next, Claressa Shields is going to show that she can prevail, be her strongest and perform at the highest levels of her sport, on a plant-based diet of vegetables, fruit, legumes, nuts, and seeds.

Most athletes who have ditched meat and dairy said they do it to lower inflammation in the body, which helps their circulation, oxygen uptake, endurance, strength, and injury prevention. All of them say it helps with faster recovery times so they can go crush it again the next day, without a "down day" between sessions.

Shields took on Marie-Eve Dicaire in one of the most important matches of her career. The event was held at the Dort Financial Center in Flint, on March 5 at 9 pm. The fight was sponsored by Vejii, the new vegan online market where you buy everything you want for a plant-based diet in one place.

"It just don't feel real to say undisputed twice," Shields told reporters, according to DAZN News, after adding the undisputed Junior Middleweight crown to the undisputed Middleweight title that she already owned. "It's kind of weird. It's like some epic s—t."

Her one goal that remained unachieved: She wanted the K.O. she told reporters. "I was trying to get the knockout," Shields said. "That's what I really wanted. I'm happy, but I still wanted the KO. I just didn't have enough time."

DAZN reported the reigning champ ended the press interview with: "Pacquiao who? Canelo who? It's Claressa Shields, yes!" She was referring of course to Manny Pacquiao, the much-decorated Filipino boxer, now a Senator in the Philippines, and "Canelo" Álvarez, the Mexican pro boxer who has won multiple world championships. "Two-time undisputed. When someone else does it, let me know! It ain't been done. It's just me."

Shields comes from a family of boxers and won her first Olympic Gold at age 17
Shields was a decorated amateur boxing career, winning her first Olympic gold medal at 17 in 2012. She turned pro after defending her middleweight gold medal in Rio in 2016, she turned professional. In addition to her two Olympic gold medals, she has won nine world championship belts in the sport. Shields, 25, is the defending WBC and WBO light-middleweight champion. In her fight with Dicaire, she’ll put those belts on the line.

“I think it brings a lot more power, a lot more experience. I really think that I’m not just into only boxing. I’m a lot stronger at places where I really had strength at before. So I’m really excited about March 5th and bringing some of that to the table.”

Shields certainly has every right to be "super excited" about this bucket list event, since she grew up not too far from the arena, and learned to love the sport of boxing through her father Bo, a former boxer. “I really started boxing for my dad so that he can live his life through me,” she said. “And I didn't know that boxing was destined for what I would do. I just did it because I wanted to make my dad happy," she also told Team USA.

Claressa Shields Fights For Equality
For Sheilds, there's only one perfect time to do what she loves, but since March is Women's History Month and International Women's Day is celebrated on the 8th, this fight, in particular, is destined to be the moment to prove everything she believes: "We're as great as the men."

In an interview with Fox Business, Shields pointed out that women don't get as much money as men in many sports but specifically in boxing because women are held at a maximum of 10 rounds whereas men can fight for 12 rounds, but she would be willing to compete for the entire round if they let her. Men and women deserve equal pay, and we are here to stay," she said.

“I have been very vocal about (women’s sports) but after being vocal now you have to take action. And right here is taking action,” Shields said. “Not being given chances by networks that don’t want to pay us what we want or need to be paid. … This is where it all starts. And to me, this is taking a stand for equal pay and equal fight time.”

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05-13-2021, 09:14 AM

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Former WBO featherweight champion Heather Hardy has won 22 of her 23 professional bouts. Photograph: Tim Knox/The Guardian
The single mom from Brooklyn who became world featherweight champion and one of NYC’s most popular fighters opens up about her feminist roots, the fight for gender equity and life after boxing

Thu 13 May 2021 04.30 EDT

Heather Hardy has experienced it all during her time as a professional fighter. A single mom and feminist who didn’t start boxing until well into her twenties, the Brooklyn native came up through the crucible of New York City’s club scene before finally winning the World Boxing Organization featherweight title in 2018.

Now 39, Hardy is up against a challenge she’s yet to confront in her decade-long career: bouncing back from defeat. Twenty months after suffering her first professional loss and ceding her title to fellow Brooklynite Amanda Serrano at Madison Square Garden, Hardy will climb into the ring with Montreal’s Jessica Camara in an eight-round lightweight bout at the top of Broadway Boxing’s inaugural Ladies Fight card – a new all-female boxing series streaming on UFC Fight Pass that promoter Lou DiBella has launched to keep veteran contenders busy and elevate up-and-coming prospects.

It’s just the kind of platform that might have made things easier for Hardy during her early years. But her main preoccupation in the days before Friday’s fight is the jump in weight: a two-division leap from her 126lbs comfort zone to the 135lbs realm. “[Camara] is a natural lightweight,” Hardy told the Guardian this week. “I expect that she’s going to be strong.”

The move up for Hardy is born of necessity, the reason all too familiar to some: “During Covid and the shutdowns, I was working full-time and not training. So not only did I have to get back in boxing shape, I had to get back in actual shape and I just thought 126 would kill me.”

Early in 2020, as she strategized her next move after her career-first loss, the world closed down. Then came a phone call from DiBella, the promoter who first spotted Hardy’s potential and signed her only six fights into her pro career as his company’s first female fighter.

“He said, ‘If you need help financially, call me, but do not expect a boxing paycheck in 2020,” Hardy recalls. “Do what you gotta do to put food on the table and pay your bills.’ So I just got out of the gym. I said, ‘No more training. This is regular Heather and survival mode.’”

A year later, having been vaccinated, returned to the gym, and spent the spring preparing for Friday’s bout, Hardy’s fitness and readiness belie the difficult road in her rear view: “I hit my fight weight today. I literally stood on the scale and I cried. I gained nearly 30lbs in Covid. I didn’t think I could do it. I was just like, I’m going to frigging do this. And I did. So standing on that scale today and seeing that 137-point-whatever, it was just the most gratifying feeling.”

If Hardy is not the face of women’s boxing in the United States, she is at least, along with Serrano, its most recognizable face in its biggest city, which remains the sport’s spiritual home. That distinction didn’t come easy. The road to winning the WBO belt in a successful 2018 rematch against Shelly Vincent was paved with years of fights for paltry purses before scattered crowds at BB Kings Blues Club, the Aviator Sports Complex, the since-razed Roseland Ballroom and the many other club venues that pepper the New York City boxing scene.

But for Hardy, boxing has never been just about belts. Her name has become embedded in the discourse around women’s boxing, particularly regarding gender parity. Independent filmmaker Natasha Verma even made her the centerpiece – and namesake – of her 2013 documentary that examined the male-female wage gap in boxing.

Growing up, Hardy felt “strangely drawn” to activists like Billie Jean King and Gloria Steinem: “I always felt like I was born in the wrong era. I should have been marching for women’s rights in the seventies.” So when she started boxing in 2010 before turning pro less than two years later, she found it difficult to ignore the flagrant discrepancies in treatment – both quantifiable and existential – between male and female fighters. Hardy recalls earning $7,500 to defend a WBC international title when the male boxer with similar credentials entering the ring directly after her netted a purse in the high six figures. “I was a world champion and I couldn’t use boxing as my full-time job,” she says.

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Heather Hardy, right, suffered the first and only defeat of her professional career to fellow Brooklyn native Amanda Serrano at Madison Square Garden in September 2019. Photograph: Frank Franklin II/AP
Recounting the early days of her career, Hardy describes a disempowering, extortionate landscape. “There’s only room for one at a time. For one Ronda Rousey. One female in each important seat. So no matter how bad that female gets treated, she never wants to speak up because there’s a line of girls waiting for that spot who would gladly take it for less pay or less acknowledgement.”

Not Hardy, however: “As a feminist, as a girl mom, not only did I want to win world titles, but I wanted to make noise.”

Amidst the upward sweep of her career, she realized the implied authority of drawing crowds and filling seats. “People want to see me?” she says. “Hey, maybe I’m not lucky I’m here. Maybe I deserve to be here. And I deserve a little bit more. That kind of gave more power to the things I had to say about what was going on.”

Asked whether she thinks paid a price for her salience and integrity, she hesitates for a beat.

“When you speak out against inequity in any sense, whether it’s gender, race, religion, you’re seen as a whining, complaining female,” Hardy says. “It’s just a stigma that gets attached to you. I’m sure there are tons of people out there who don’t want to deal with me or don’t want to do business with me. But I just don’t care.”

In recent years, boxing has made demonstrable strides toward equity, for which Hardy credits two core factors. First, the introduction of women’s boxing to the Olympics, in 2012, which offered the chance for acclaim on a world stage: “I came from Gleason’s Gym, which has a long line of female champions, female road warriors who traveled around to fight because there was nothing here.”

Second, Hardy cites changes in how we consume content: “Ten years ago, we didn’t have UFC Fight Pass. There were no streaming services. There was no Dazn. If you weren’t at my fight, you couldn’t watch it.”

As in other sports, visibility matters: if fans haven’t seen women fight, they’re less likely to believe women can fight.

Still, while she sees progress, to Hardy, boxing remains “a boys’ game” – particularly in contrast with mixed martial arts, which offers female fighters “more publicity, more money, more recognition, more media attention.” As one of the early female boxers to seek greener pastures (and purses) in the MMA world, Hardy knows firsthand that, between the two combat sports, the industry support for women is “apples and oranges, night and day”.

As she approaches her 40th birthday in January, Hardy knows the obvious question. “People ask me, would you be OK to retire?” Even a fighter who’s headlined cards, performed before sold-out crowds, and won a world title at Madison Square Garden is not impervious to life’s punishing vicissitudes. “If you survived 2020, and you’re not in a mile of debt, you figured it out. I’m convinced there’s nothing I can’t figure out.”

She views Friday’s bout against Camara in the Nashville suburb of Murfreesboro as a kind of litmus test for her career.

“My goal is to hit weight, that’s number one,” Hardy says. “Number two, win that fight. Number three, I’m going to Jamaica for a week. I’m going to sit on the beach, I’m going to sip a martini. And I’m going to see if these last three months of my life were worth it. Because the fans, everybody only sees those eight rounds. They don’t see the jogs in the plastic suit. They don’t see shuffling clients. They don’t see homeschooling your 11th-grader, they don’t see SAT scores. That’s the kind of thing that I have to decide. Am I willing to sacrifice my body, my mental health, my everything for what comes next.”

Still, Hardy feels prepared and excited: “I can tell you that my fight camp went unbelievably smooth.” As for Camara, “She could be bigger than me, but I feel really good.”

It’s tough to imagine a fighter with Hardy’s spirit walking away after a comeback. But there’s also the chance we’ll simply see a different side of her. Despite an earned skepticism for the business of boxing, Hardy loves two things about the sport itself.

“I love my role in boxing, which is fighting,” she says. “I don’t know that I’d ever want to really take on any other position outside of fighter – except for maybe commentator because, you know, I do love to talk.”

Given the urgency of her message and passion of her convictions, one can believe that even when she finally hangs up her gloves, Heather Hardy won’t stop speaking up any time soon.

Becoming a pro athlete is incredibly hard, even harder for less spotlighted sports.

GeneChing

07-13-2021, 09:45 AM

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08-01-2021, 05:46 PM

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Irish boxer Aidan Walsh out of Olympics after he injured ankle celebrating win (https://sports.yahoo.com/irish-boxer-aidan-walsh-out-tokyo-olympics-after-he-injured-ankle-celebrating-win-034404157.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb)
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Irish boxer Aidan Walsh has withdrawn from his semifinal bout in Tokyo after he injured his ankle celebrating.

Walsh didn’t attend the medical check and weigh-in for his fight against Great Britain’s Pat McCormack on Sunday, according to The Associated Press. His absence means that McCormack will advance to the gold medal welterweight fight.

Walsh will still win a bronze medal. McCormack will now take on either Cuba’s Roniel Iglesias or Russia’s Andrei Zamkovoy in the gold medal fight.

“What Aidan did this week is an incredible achievement,” Ireland boxing team leader Bernard Dunne said, via The Associated Press. “His performance throughout the tournament has been outstanding, and it is great to see him write his name in the annals of Irish sport.”

Walsh hurt his ankle celebrating QF win

Walsh reached the semifinal match after beating Mauritius’ Merven Clair in the quarterfinals. After he was given the win, though, Walsh started a wild celebration.

He jumped up and down multiple times and then landed awkwardly on his ankle.

He was later seen leaving the arena in a wheelchair.

The Irish team said that Walsh injured his ankle, but only said that he did so during the fight. His ankle wasn’t an issue until after his win.

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12-10-2021, 10:45 AM

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The IOC adds skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing to permanent spots on the Olympic program.

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Three of the oldest sports on the Olympic program have been replaced with three of the youngest.

Beginning with the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, sport stalwarts boxing, modern pentathlon and weightlifting are no longer on the program for the Games.

Taking those places on the roster are skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing. The trio of newcomers debuted at Tokyo 2020 and have since been added to the program for Paris 2024.

The youth appeal and growth of these three “S” sports is driving the changes by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), said IOC President Thomas Bach in announcing the changes.

“The proposed inclusion of these youth-focused sports is based on their significant contribution to the success of Tokyo 2020, the commitment to innovation and the partnership expressed by LA28, recognizing the deep roots each of these sports have in California,” he said.

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All three of the sports on the outs with the IOC have struggled for a few years to remain on the summer program. Modern pentathlon, which debuted in 1912 and was supposedly the favorite of Olympics founder Pierre deCoubertin, has radically adjusted its format in recent years. Live weapons fire has been replaced with a laser pistol. This year the federation voted to drop the equestrian jumping event but has yet to decide what other discipline will take the place of the equestrian competition. With some of the lowest Olympic TV ratings, modern pentathlon brings little commercial value beyond its historic past.

A statement from the sport’s federation Union Internationale de Pentathlon Moderne (UIPM) says the sport will look to the future.

“UIPM’s global community is ready to embrace the new opportunity presented by the IOC to futureproof modern pentathlon as an enduring highlight of the Olympic Games,” they said.

“The main constituents of the sport will include a compelling, inclusive and fair format, a sustainable and affordable infrastructure and a combination of sports that engages new audiences while continuing to embrace the ultimate challenge of body and mind – as envisaged by Baron Pierre de Coubertin,” says the UIPM reaction to today’s decision.

The cuts were approved at a virtual meeting of the IOC Executive Board, chaired by Bach during the past three days.

The IOC EB is quite familiar with the travails of boxing and weightlifting, both troubled sports over issues such as governance, ethics, finance and doping. Both are under IOC scrutiny as each work to heal self-inflicted wounds suffered through decades of mismanagement.

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Weightlifting, one of the 12 sports on the program of the 1896 Games, was facing being cut from Paris 2024. The International Weightlifting Federation (IWF) still has some key tests to pass with the IOC if it is to remain on the program in Paris.

So far, the only reaction from weightlifting comes from Ursula Papandrea of the United States, a candidate for the IWF presidency. The IWF was scheduled to hold their elections in a few weeks in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, but they were recently postponed with no due time or date selected. Papandrea blames the IWF’s predicament on the failure of the current federation’s leadership.

“The IWF Executive Board could have quite easily secured weightlifting’s long-term status by cooperating with the IOC request to improve its governance and heed its call for new leadership,” says Papandrea, who served as an interim IWF president for a few months in 2020 until she was voted out by the IWF executive board.

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Boxing, contested in the Olympics since 1912, is ****her along with its reforms and new leadership than the IWF but the International Boxing Association (AIBA) is still under watch by the IOC. Distrusting of AIBA, the IOC took over the administration and staging of boxing for Tokyo from qualifications to the medal rounds.

“We are grateful for the opportunity being given to boxing and its athletes. And we are also grateful to the IOC for its acknowledgement of our progress. The establishment of a clear roadmap is very helpful,” AIBA President Umar Kremlev said after Bach’s announcement.

“There will certainly be more to do in terms of sporting integrity, financial integrity and governance. We remain fully committed to meeting all the objective criteria for reform established by the IOC. AIBA is determined to put itself in a position to be able to organize Olympic qualification and the Paris 2024 boxing tournament,” said Kremlev.

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All three of the sports lopped from the program have the chance to return to Los Angeles as a one-time sport, subject to their good standing with the IOC and what other sports might also be seeking to enter the LA28 program. The competition will be tough. Baseball and softball, added for Tokyo after being dropped in 2008, are important sports in Southern California and the U.S. Breaking, a style of dance added as a one-time sport in Paris, seems destined for Los Angeles depending on how this newcomer is received in 2024. Karate, squash, lacrosse, cricket and polo are among other possible sports with an eye on LA28. A decision on those additions is expected in 2023.

“As we look at additional sport recommendations, we will continue to focus on sports relevant to Los Angeles, provide an incredible fan experience and contribute to the success of the Games. We want to build on tradition, while progressing the Olympic Games forward,” said LA28 chair Casey Wasserman in a statement.

The proposal to add and cut sports for LA28 is subject to ratification in February at the IOC Session to be held in Beijing on the eve of the 2022 Winter Games.

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01-04-2022, 07:18 PM

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January 3, 2022 12:32pm Updated
Australian boxer Ebanie Bridges, who goes by the “Blonde Bomber,” is upset about online “trolls” after a sultry photo of hers was recently removed by Instagram.

Bridges, according to The Sun, received a warning from Instagram over a snapshot on her account that showed her posing topless from behind, wearing nothing but boxing gloves and thong underwear.

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The 35-year-old shared a screengrab of the notice from Instagram that read, “Your post goes against our guidelines on adult sexual solicitation.”

“OK the trolls / haters are winning TBH. Eh keep reporting my pic. I can’t re-post my pic. Last thing I wanna do is lose my account,” Bridges responded.

According to The Sun, Instagram also warned the boxer that she “could lose access to [her] account in the future” for sharing similar posts.

“Hope y’all screenshotted it for your backgrounds before it got removed. Happy New Year.”

Bridges shared the same photo in a tweet on Dec. 31, which is still posted to her account.

In a separate post on Twitter and Instagram over the weekend, Bridges defended her brand, and said she wants to inspire others.

“I stayed strong and true to myself. Through all the hate, all the people judging me, stereotyping me and praying for me to fail,” she wrote. “Mainly cos of how I look & how I promote myself, people couldn’t handle change.

“I came into the women’s boxing world showing something different, and promoting myself using social media (no one was / is going to do it for me) I AM different. I’ll never be like anyone else. I’ve walked my own path and now paved it for others. I like to think I have done a lot for women’s boxing this year and brought many more eyes on the sport by just being myself.

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“I took the hits and the bullets and I survived the attacks to now make it easier for other women who also choose to be feminine and show their beauty whilst still being a beast, and hopefully they don’t get slayed as much as I did. I built my own brand that will continue to grow and hopefully inspired many others, not only women but EVERYONE.”

Bridges last fought in September when she beat Mailys Gangloff, pushing her record to 7-1. Her only defeat came in April 2021, when she lost to Shannon Courtenay by unanimous decision in a bantamweight world title fight.

The Aussie boxer, who is also a math school teacher, turned professional in February 2019.

Wow. Boxing has changed...

GeneChing

01-04-2022, 07:22 PM

Olympic Boxer And Dior Muse Ramla Ali On Resilience And Bouncing Back (https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/real-life/ramla-ali-new-year-boxing-dior/)
'Setbacks are part of life… you just have to own them'
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Get your bum down!’ In a slick east London gym, I’m one-and-a-half minutes into a two-minute plank, surrounded by 20 women in the same position. Ramla Ali is shouting at me to ‘plank properly’, though she quickly loses her authoritative tone and starts laughing. It’s a fitting end to a session that is tough and sweaty but, above all, fun.

For Ramla, planking comes easy. She’s a professional boxer, Dior muse and UNICEF humanitarian but, today, she’s in full fighter mode. I’m at Sisters Club, the initiative she launched in 2018 to provide a safe space for women to learn boxing and reap the mental and physical health benefits. Initially, she designed the free classes for Muslim women and minorities. Ramla, who is Muslim, understood the lack of women-only spaces where, regardless of their background, women could work out free from the male gaze and not worry about taking their hijabs off – or keeping them on.

‘We get so many messages from women saying how amazing the classes are, especially for their mental health,’ Ramla tells me after the session. ‘That’s one of the main reasons for starting Sisters Club. Yes, it was about creating a safe space for women who don’t necessarily get access to sport. But it’s also about making them feel good through the power of exercise.’

Following the high-profile killings of Sarah Everard and Sabina Nessa, among many others (at least 81 women have been murdered in the UK since last March), there has been a rising appetite for self-defence classes. ‘It’s empowering to know that you can defend yourself and I want women to feel confident, knowing they can box,’ says Ramla. ‘But there is this huge conversation happening about how women should be more vigilant, and be this and that, but why does responsibility always fall to women? Men need to stop attacking us.’

Ali won’t be at the next Sisters Club as she’s about to fly out to the Cayman Islands for a training camp. In the run-up to a fight, she trains six days a week and has regular sessions with a nutritionist and psychologist. She hands over the reins of her social media accounts to her husband Rich, who also happens to be her coach. Everything that’s not connected to the fight goes out of the window.

The next match will take place in the US, and will be her first since the Olympics, where Ramla represented her native Somalia. Her family fled the civil war when she was a baby and arrived in the UK as refugees. Although she has not yet been back to Somalia, in 2018, Ramla set up the country’s boxing federation and switched allegiances to fight for Somalia instead of England. Ramla wanted to put the country on the map in a positive light and share an alternative narrative that wasn’t about war and corruption.

Making it to Olympic level was a huge moment for her and the Somali community all over the world but, sadly, she lost her first fight. ‘I was devastated,’ she says. ‘It’s taken a while to get over it.’ To accept the loss, Ramla had to change her mindset.

‘The way I see it now is that I got to the Olympics, all on my own, with no funding. I’m pretty sure a lot of people couldn’t have done that, and it’s something to be proud of. I was the first boxer from Somalia to make it to the Olympics, male or female.’

While she would have loved a medal, Ramla’s main goal has always been to pay it forward. She knows her boxing career won’t last forever but, through her success and her Sisters Club initiative, she hopes to inspire the next generation. ‘The next Ramla in Africa who wants to be good at something or take up a career in sport: I’ve shown her that we’re from the same background. If I can do it, you can do it too.’

Ramla has mastered the art of using her failures to fuel her future performance. ‘Setbacks are part of life, nobody is a winner 24/7. Losses happen, you just have to own them.’ She knows the importance of self-care and, after fights, gives herself time to celebrate or commiserate. If she’s feeling down, she avoids social media. ‘People only post their wins and never their losses, and that’s really fake.’

Wellness has become an important part of her life. Ramla battled long Covid last year and recently discovered the power of breathwork. She’s become a regular at The Wellness Lab, where she gets Hyperbaric Oxygen sessions; a purified oxygen treatment that enhances the body’s natural healing ability. Then there’s apnea breathing, or ‘holding your breath underwater for a really long time’. She believes this has had a transformative effect on her mental health. ‘[After the Olympics] I was feeling bad for a long time,’ she says. ‘Learning these breathing techniques has been life changing; it’s calming and energising and it has helped me so much.

‘The last two years have been tough for everyone,’ she continues. ‘People have been furloughed or lost their jobs. I’ve seen so many couples break up. A lot of people feel like they want their year back, but we shouldn’t dwell on the past. Now is the time to look forward to the future and create better habits for ourselves. That way, you’re moving in the right direction.’ She acknowledges there is no shortcut to fitness, but the benefits are worth it. ‘Put yourself in uncomfortable situations,’ she says. ‘Say you’ve fallen out of love with exercise or being healthy, you need to force yourself into that situation: go to a class or to the gym, and that love will come back when you see how much better you feel.’

Four years ago, Ramla put herself out of her comfort zone when she did her first photoshoot, for Nike. ‘I was so nervous,’ she remembers, ‘but modelling has allowed me to discover a different side of myself. I learned to enjoy it and now I feel as relaxed in front of the camera as I am in the ring.’ Using modelling to fund her boxing, Ramla has a career straddling two worlds. She starred in campaigns for Coach and Cartier and featured on the cover of Vogue as one of Meghan Markle’s ‘forces for change’.

Recently, she caught the eye of Dior’s creative director, Maria Grazia Chiuri, who invited Ramla to the Dior S/S ’22 show. ‘It was amazing because some of the clothes were boxing-inspired,’ she enthuses. ‘I wore this incredible silver look – proper Missy Elliott vibes!’ Ramla met Maria backstage and the two discussed the intersection of boxing and fashion. ‘She’s going to design my next fight kit,’ says Ramla. ‘We talked about what colours and styles I liked; I can’t wait!’ From the runway to the ring, Ramla is spearheading a world where the strength and empowerment of boxing blends with the creativity and beauty of fashion. ‘Why shouldn’t the worlds of boxing and fashion mix? I’m living proof that they can.’

Photographs: Lara Angelil. Styling: Molly Haylor. Dress, £2,560, leggings, £610 and boots, £1,050, all Dior. HAIR: NAO KAWAKAMI AT THE WALL GROUP USING BALMAIN HAIR UK. MAKE-UP: AMY WRIGHT AT CAREN AGENCY USING DIOR. NAILS: RAYHANA OSMAN USING DIOR BEAUTY. PRODUCTION: JESSICA HARRISON. PHOTOGRAPHER’S ASSISTANT: CAMERON WILLIAMSON.
Wow. Boxing has changed part 2...

GeneChing

08-27-2023, 09:18 AM

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Koh Samui to host Weed Boxing Championship (https://asianmma.com/koh-samui-to-host-weed-boxing-championship/)
By: News | August 22, 2023 1:53 pm

Koh Samui is set to host the Weed Boxing Championship. The event takes place on August 27th and participants will be required to ‘smoke a bong or a joint’ before participating.

Former heavyweight world champion Mike Tyson is the sport’s most high profile stoner. He admits to smoking every single day and has built his own cannabis empire selling a variety of different cannabis and cannabis related products.

Tyson’s heyday was several decades ago so he doesn’t have to worry too much about a visit from the drug testers. Plus the convicted rapist probably isn’t too worried that being associated with a drug that is still illegal in many countries will taint his reputation.

Reigning WBO and WBA super flyweight champion Kazuto Ioka tested positive for marijuana ahead of a title fight last year. But he was able to get off on a technicality because the sample was mishandled.

Open secret

There must be more boxers out there smoking cannabis because it is an open secret that several mixed martial artists like to get stoned. Among them are Nate Diaz and his brother Nick Diaz who served several bans during his UFC career and even had a submission win overturned after testing positive.

Newly crowned UFC bantamweight champion Sean O’Malley has made no secret of the fact that he likes getting stoned. The American frequently posts videos of him smoking before, after and even during training.

No fear

Participants in the inaugural Weed Boxing Championships need have no fear of an unwanted visit from WADA or USADA. They are obliged to get stoned before the fights which will consist of three rounds of three minutes apiece.

Spectators will also be encouraged to smoke the same weed as the fighters and there will be live music and food. The event is set for the Samui International Muay Thai Stadium so a big audience is probably expected.

In June, 2022 marijuana was decriminalized in Thailand. Almost overnight shops and stalls popped up everywhere selling high quality product to customers who would previously have been required to break the law in order to get their hands on it.

Muay Thai tourism is well established but marijuana tourism is a relatively new phenomenon in Thailand. This event looks to fuse the two and while it will be the first of its kind in the country it is unlikely to be the last.

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GeneChing

01-03-2024, 09:25 AM

USA Boxing puts forth new trans policy and everybody is ****ed off (https://www.outsports.com/trans/2024/1/2/24021248/usa-boxing-trans-athlete-lgbtq-policy)
Advocates both for and against trans women in women’s sports are unhappy with USA Boxing’s policy.

By Cyd Zeigler@CydZeigler Updated Jan 2, 2024, 5:15pm PST 0 Comments / 0 New

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Mikaela Mayer is one of the boxers speaking out against USA Boxing’s trans-inclusion policy. Photo by John Walton/PA Images via Getty Images

USA Boxing reportedly has a “new” policy regarding transgender athletes, and it’s already infuriating people across the spectrum.

Advocates for trans women’s participation in the female category are pointing to some of the harshest restrictions in sport. People who oppose trans women in the female category are upset there is any path to participation for them.

The World Boxing Council has, on the international stage, barred trans women from the female category, saying they will build a transgender category. Other countries’ governing bodies, like Boxing New Zealand, have followed suit.

The policy, as widely reported, has a number of key elements to it.

First, every athlete under 18 must compete in the category corresponding to their sex assigned at birth. This flies in the face of many of the more-strict trans-inclusion policies in sports, which allow for athletes to compete in their gender category as long as they haven’t experienced puberty.

Yet in boxing, a 15-year-old trans girl who has been on puberty blockers since they were 10 still has to compete in the male category.

Second, adult boxers must have had gender reassignment surgery. For years, sports governing bodies have moved away from this requirement, so the return of this requirement for USA Boxing is putting the push toward broader trans inclusion in reverse.

Third, adult boxers have to show they have have testosterone levels under 5 nmol/L for four years prior to competing. That four years is the longest wait period for any sport that allows trans women to compete in the female category.

Now USA Boxing is facing widespread criticism for the policy — at this point the strictest in sports (other than outright bans).

On one side, people are critical that the ban has any path to participation for trans women in boxing’s female category. Whether the policy mandated four years or 10 years of HRT,

“I will never agree to this,” said former world champion Ebanie Bridges. “It’s bad enough having trans women breaking records in other sports like track and field, swimming and power lifting but it’s a bit different to them breaking our skulls in combat sports where the aim is to HURT YOU not just break a record.”

The “skulls” line has been used to target trans athletes in combat sports ever since Fallon Fox, competing in professional mixed martial arts six years after her transition, broke the eye orbital of an opponent. Critics say she broke her “skull” simply because it sounds worse.

“Hormone therapy is banned,” professional boxer Mikaela Mayer said on X. “By default, this should make trans athletes ineligible for competition. Doesn’t matter how you feel about the situation, fact is, it’s illegal and completely disrupts the even playing field that sport works so hard to create.”

Riley Gaines, the former college swimmer who came to prominence arguing publicly against trans women in female sports after competing against Lia Thomas, said a trans woman will end up killing a female boxer.

“Mark my words, it will take a woman getting killed before these misogynistic fools wake up.”

Dozens of boxers have been killed by cisgender boxers during matches, including a number of women. Major injuries are already a consistent aspect of the sport, before any trans woman steps into the female pro-boxing ring.

For trans advocates, this will be viewed as a setback. While there is a path to participation for trans women in the female category, the mandated surgery and four years of mandated HRT will be considered overly restrictive.

As mentioned, Fox did have surgery and six years of HRT before competing in professional MMA. So it is possible. Yet it’s a far cry from the one- or two-year mandates and no surgery that have been the most common guidelines over the last few years.

USA Boxing seems to be trying to thread the needle here, create a way for trans women to compete, but also raise the barrier to entry high enough to stave off some critics.

In the end, their policy will simply **** off everyone involved in this debate.

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