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sanjuro_ronin
06-08-2009, 06:20 AM
Exercise be ****ed May. 30, 2009
Provided by: Sun Media
Written by: DOCTOR GIFFORD-JONES

Have you ever seen lions running? You bet they run when they're hungry and chasing prey. The only other time they exercise is at mating season when they're having sex every 20 minutes! But most of the time they lay around or sleep. Exercise is simply not high on their priority list, and they survive well without buying Nike running shoes.

Questioning the value of exercise to humans, however, is like ****ing Motherhood and apple pie. But every year in my office I see examples of excessive exercise causing needless injury, and it results in many aggravating problems.


One of my 60-year-old female patients decided it was time to build up muscles. So she hired a personal trainer. At each visit, she enthusiastically told me, her trainer praised her strength, and kept adding extra weights for her leg lifts. I advised her not to push her luck. But the weights kept piling on and on. Finally, something in her back snapped. Now she has a partially paralyzed left foot. She should have listened to the old sage who counselled, "Too much of anything can be worse than none at all". Another example of overuse is Olympic athletes. On TV screens they appear to be at the peak of physical form, lean, muscled and full of youth. But they all push themselves to extremes, playing through pain and often undergoing multiple operations due to injuries. And some end up with hips and knees like those of people twice their age.

Jordan Metzl, of the Sports Medicine Institute for Young Athletes at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York, says, "You see people 16 years of age with the bones of a 60- to 70-year-old person".

For instance, teenage gymnasts often experience a late puberty due to intense exercise and low body fat. By subjecting themselves to this routine before their bodies are fully developed can lead to lower bone density, osteoporosis and stress fractures.

Marcia Whalen, an osteopathic physician in California, and one of the physicians for the U.S. Women's Olympic water polo team, says, "When you're doing any kind of activity repetitively over and over the way these athletes are doing , it's a set-up for injury". It's also a set-up for the rest of us who overdo it.

CARDIAC ARREST

Myra ****er, a researcher at the Stephenson Cardiovascular Centre in Calgary, has been using imaging techniques to study athlete's hearts. It was hoped she and her colleagues would discover why some athletes in superb condition suffer sudden cardiac arrest and die. What they found was equally alarming.

48 Olympic caliber athletes with a mean age of 32 years were enlisted in the study. They were involved in swimming, cross country skiing, skating and marathon running. Contrast-enhanced cardiovascular magnetic resonance scans were then done on the athletes. In addition, the same study was carried out on eight others in good health, but who were not involved in any training.

This study showed that 75% of the elite athletes had myocardial fibrosis (scarring of the heart's muscle). They also had large ventricles (chambers of the heart). At the moment it's not known what effect this finding will have on longevity. But they believe this scarring will prevent them from ever becoming world champions regardless of how hard they train. Just 13% of the control group had this condition.

Of course I'm not against moderate exercise when so many today are obese couch- potatoes. But I think Abraham Lincoln was right when he said, "The best two doctors are your right leg and your left leg". Walking, a moderate exercise, is still the best one.

So who wins the race in terms of longevity and good health? I'd place my bet on someone who inherits good genes and who doesn't ruin good joints and healthy hearts by overuse. My Mother entered her 94th year without ever running one block or doing one push up. But she was thin and active. I doubt that exercise would have added one week to her longevity. And I also don't believe lions would live any longer if they wore Nike running shoes.

sanjuro_ronin
06-08-2009, 06:23 AM
Two Points:
High caliber athletic endevours have very little to do with health and everything to do with success in the "time frame" possible for the human body in that given sport, in most cases its a small time frame of a few years.
Athletes of this level (pros and elite amateurs) focus on athletic performance and not long term health.
Second:
Most are now aware that moderation is the key to longevity.

WinterPalm
06-08-2009, 06:28 AM
I've always felt like I'm not my healthiest when I look my best! Peak physical condition has nothing to do with health...fighting shape does not = general health.
On the other hand, your body has to be working pretty darn efficiently to get you there...

TenTigers
06-08-2009, 08:12 AM
we all have agreed at this point that it is not style, but training and conditioning that determines a fighter. But, training at the intensity of a pro fighter will eventually lead to breakdown. Look at any pro, and then look at their longevity in the sport, and the quality of life afterward. Muay Thai boxers retire at 25 and limp for the rest of their lives.

David Jamieson
06-08-2009, 08:31 AM
we all have agreed at this point that it is not style, but training and conditioning that determines a fighter. But, training at the intensity of a pro fighter will eventually lead to breakdown. Look at any pro, and then look at their longevity in the sport, and the quality of life afterward. Muay Thai boxers retire at 25 and limp for the rest of their lives.

If fighters knew up front the consequences of their fighting in the long term, even if they won consistently, then nobody would fight!

Young men are perfect for the task because they don't think in terms of the future. They are very in the now and very concerned about how others view them.

most of the whole fight scene is like that.

There's more egos than there is matter of fact fighters.

I think that is part and parcel to it all.

just another angle on life that is curious in regards to the human condition.

young men fight. Old men teach them how. That's how it goes. :)

Pork Chop
06-08-2009, 10:59 AM
Muay Thai boxers retire at 25 and limp for the rest of their lives.

This stereotype really annoys me
They retire at 25 because they're making peanuts, they're basically slave labor, often sold into their camps to pay off family debts, so once they get a little bit of money in their pocket they go off and get real jobs.
As small as mma purses are, they're much larger than muay thai purses internationally & things are even worse in Thailand.
Aside from a precious few, like saenchai sor kingstar, who's still going strong and will be 29 this july with minimal wear and tear, they just don't make that much money and they're kind of looked down upon in Thai culture.
A lot of boxers are from poor areas of Thailand and are discriminated against openly.
You need to go spend some time with Master K, an ex-fighter & current trainer in New Jersey - in his 70s and still spry.

I do agree with where you're coming from though.
Fighters in training are notorious for being easy to get sick.
Light showers during jogging can be cause for concern.
The body cannot handle super high intensity for very long.
Mike Tyson is a good example, his prime was essentially over at age 23.