MMA vs CMA

[HOKPAIWES]

Hello,


I would like to hear peoples take on MMA vs CMA. Any MMA guys I have had a chance to engage have been alot larger than myself. I have trained on a daily basis at least a decade longer, have had really good teachers, know hundreds more techniques, I am faster, have footwork and timing. I do well when engaging other type of fighters. Frustrating as it is guys with very little training and no clue about distancing, timing or the ability to kick let alone throw a strike without grunting can freight train right on in and land a solid hit. How would someone like Yip Man for just for example compete with a bull sized fighter? He is said to be one of the best in the world but was as thin as a rail, seems if someone from UFC hit him he would crumple like foil. The more I train it really seems to come down to the guy with the biggest bicep wins in the long run. Anyway, what are some opinions on this? Do we hang it up and just start weight training until we look like the hulk?

[Violent Designs]

I like lamp.

[YouKnowWho]

一力勝十會 - Strength beat 10 techniques.

[uki]

i don't care how big your biceps are... you won't last long in a fight with your faced ripped off your skull. :)

*meow*

[banditshaw]

i don't care how big your biceps are... you won't last long in a fight with your faced ripped off your skull. :)

*meow*

Ha ha awesome!!

[uki]

Ha ha awesome!!it's true... no? most of my technique is pure tiger aggression... rip, tear, rake, scratch, gouge, and mutilate - let's keep the tiger in the tiger styles. :)

[David Jamieson]

I like Peaches and Jam.

[Scott R. Brown]

it's true... no? most of my technique is pure tiger aggression... rip, tear, rake, scratch, gouge, and mutilate - let's keep the tiger in the tiger styles. :)

Yeah, but a tiger will eat a house cat, so the largest biceps still win!:eek:

[David Jamieson]

Yeah, but a tiger will eat a house cat, so the largest biceps still win!:eek:

Human shoots tiger in the face FTW!! :p

[uki]

Human shoots tiger in the face FTW!! provided the human sees the tiger pounce first. :p

[David Jamieson]

so, sucker shots are what works? lol :p

[uki]

so, sucker shots are what works?LMAO!! apparently so, yet they wouldn't happen if people respected the tigers domain. :D

[David Jamieson]

what about a handful of loganberries?

what then?

eh?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Loud noises !!!!

[Scott R. Brown]

Human shoots tiger in the face FTW!! :p

Lightening strikes Human, an act of God! The biggest biceps still win!!:D

[lkfmdc]

Colonel (Graham Chapman): get some discipline into those chaps, Sergeant Major!

Sargeant (John Cleese, shouting throughout): Right sir! Good evening, class.

All (mumbling): Good evening.

Sargeant: Where's all the others, then?

All: They're not here.

Sgt.: I can see that. What's the matter with them?

All: Dunno.

Chapman (member of class): Perhaps they've got 'flu.

Sgt.: Huh! 'Flu, eh? They should eat more fresh fruit. Ha. Right. Now, self-defence. Tonight I shall be carrying on from where we got to last week when I was showing you how to defend yourselves against anyone who attacks you with armed with a piece of fresh fruit.

(Grumbles from all)

Palin: Oh, you promised you wouldn't do fruit this week.

Sgt.: What do you mean?

Jones: We've done fruit the last nine weeks.

Sgt.: What's wrong with fruit? You think you know it all, eh?

Palin: Can't we do something else?

Idle (Welsh): Like someone who attacks you with a pointed stick?

Sgt.: Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me! Now, the passion fruit. When your assailant lunges at you with a passion fruit...

All: We done the passion fruit.

Sgt.: What?

Chapman: We done the passion fruit.

Palin: We done oranges, apples, grapefruit...

Jones: Whole and segments.

Palin: Pomegranates, greengages...

Chapman: Grapes, passion fruit...

Palin: Lemons...

Jones: Plums...

Chapman: Mangoes in syrup...

Sgt.: How about cherries?

All: We did them.

Sgt.: Red *and* black?

All: Yes!

Sgt.: All right, bananas.

(All sigh.)

Sgt.: We haven't done them, have we? Right. Bananas. How to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. Now you, come at me with this banana. Catch! Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless.

Palin: Suppose he's got a bunch.

Sgt.: Shut up.

Idle: Suppose he's got a pointed stick.

Sgt.: Shut up. Right now you, Mr Apricot.

Chapman: 'Arrison.

Sgt.: Sorry, Mr. 'Arrison. Come at me with that banana. Hold it like that, that's it. Now attack me with it. Come on! Come on! Come at me! Come at me then! (Shoots him.)

Chapman: Aaagh! (dies.)

Sgt.: Now, I eat the banana. (Does so.)

Palin: You shot him!

Jones: He's dead!

Idle: He's completely dead!

Sgt.: I have now eaten the banana. The deceased, Mr Apricot, is now 'elpless.

Palin: You shot him. You shot him dead.

Sgt.: Well, he was attacking me with a banana.

Jones: But you told him to.

Sgt.: Look, I'm only doing me job. I have to show you how to defend yourselves against fresh fruit.

Idle: And pointed sticks.

Sgt.: Shut up.

Palin: Suppose I'm attacked by a man with a banana and I haven't got a gun?

Sgt.: Run for it.

Jones: You could stand and scream for help.

Sgt.: Yeah, you try that with a pineapple down your windpipe.

Jones: A pineapple?

Sgt.: Where? Where?

Jones: No I just said: a pineapple.

Sgt.: Oh. Phew. I thought my number was on that one.

Jones: What, on the pineapple?

Sgt.: Where? Where?

Jones: No, I was just repeating it.

Sgt.: Oh. Oh. I see. Right. Phew. Right that's bananas then. Now the raspberry. There we are. 'Armless looking thing, isn't it? Now you, Mr Tin Peach.

Jones: Thompson.

Sgt.: Thompson. Come at me with that raspberry. Come on. Be as vicious as you like with it.

Jones: No.

Sgt.: Why not?

Jones: You'll shoot me.

Sgt.: I won't.

Jones: You shot Mr. Harrison.

Sgt.: That was self-defence. Now come on. I promise I won't shoot you.

Idle: You promised you'd tell us about pointed sticks.

Sgt.: Shut up. Come on, brandish that raspberry. Come at me with it. Give me Hell.

Jones: Throw the gun away.

Sgt.: I haven't got a gun.

Jones: You have.

Sgt.: Haven't.

Jones: You shot Mr 'Arrison with it.

Sgt.: Oh, that gun.

Jones: Throw it away.

Sgt.: Oh all right. How to defend yourself against a redcurrant -- without a gun.

Jones: You were going to shoot me!

Sgt.: I wasn't.

Jones: You were!

Sgt.: No, I wasn't, I wasn't. Come on then. Come at me. Come on you weed! You weed, do your worst! Come on, you puny little man. You weed...

(Sgt. pulls a lever in the wall--CRASH! a 16-ton weight falls on Jones)

Jones: Aaagh.

Sgt.: If anyone ever attacks you with a raspberry, just pull the lever and the 16-ton weight will fall on top of him.

Palin: Suppose there isn't a 16-ton weight?

Sgt.: Well that's planning, isn't it? Forethought.

Palin: Well how many 16-ton weights are there?

Sgt.: Look, look, look, Mr Knowall. The 16-ton weight is just _one way_ of dealing with a raspberry killer. There are millions of others!

Idle: Like what?

Sgt.: Shootin' him?

Palin: Well what if you haven't got a gun or a 16-ton weight?

Sgt.: Look, look. All right, smarty-pants. You two, you two, come at me then with raspberries. Come on, both of you, whole basket each.

Palin: No guns.

Sgt.: No.

Palin: No 16-ton weights.

Sgt.: No.

Idle: No pointed sticks.

Sgt.: Shut up.

Palin: No rocks up in the ceiling.

Sgt.: No.

Palin: And you won't kill us.

Sgt.: I won't.

Palin: Promise.

Sgt.: I promise I won't kill you. Now. Are you going to attack me?

Palin and Idle: Oh, all right.

Sgt.: Right, now don't rush me this time. Stalk me. Do it properly. Stalk me. I'll turn me back. Stalk up behind me, close behind me, then in with the redcurrants! Right? O.K. start moving. Now the first thing to do when you're being stalked by an ugly mob with redcurrants is to -- release the tiger!

(He does so. Growls. Screams.)

Sgt.: The great advantage of the tiger in unarmed combat is that he eats not only the fruit-laden foe but also the redcurrants. Tigers however do not relish the peach. The peach assailant should be attacked with a crocodile. Right, now, the rest of you, where are you? I know you're hiding somewhere with your damsons and prunes. Well I'm ready for you. I've wired meself up to 200 tons of gelignite, and if any one of you so much as makes a move we'll all go up together! Right, right. I warned you. That's it...

(Explosion.)

[David Jamieson]

Lightening strikes Human, an act of God! The biggest biceps still win!!:D

On a Bathroom wall: "God is dead ~ Nietzsche"

Next to it: "Nietzsche is dead ~ God"


:D

[Lucas]

lol ross, i watched that skit (sp) last night. good stuff

[Oso]

lmao........

(mods shouldn't have to use 10 characters....)

[KTS]

back on topic - a bit.

really, in my honest opinion, about 85 to 90% of CMA guys i have seen do not seem to be naturalized or experienced fighters, or guys willing to spar at least once a week.

therein lies one major difference - people attracted to an MMA format seem more into actually sparring.

but, there still is a small but impactful bunch of CMA guys scattered across the many styles or systems(in the US as i have seen).

i have fought a much larger individual as well. he didnt have formal mma training, but he did KO his last 5 or so opponents until we fought. and i can say that i successfully defended myself using CMA. and he had inches and dozens of pounds on me.

i havent sparred or fought many smaller guys actually.

anyways, athletic ability, fight instinct, and physical training are major keys IMO.

[Oso]

On a Bathroom wall: "God is dead ~ Nietzsche"

Next to it: "Nietzsche is dead ~ God"


:D

that's some old ****, man.

[Oso]

back on topic - a bit.

really, in my honest opinion, about 85 to 90% of CMA guys i have seen do not seem to be naturalized or experienced fighters, or guys willing to spar at least once a week.

therein lies one major difference - people attracted to an MMA format seem more into actually sparring.

but, there still is a small but impactful bunch of CMA guys scattered across the many styles or systems(in the US as i have seen).

i have fought a much larger individual as well. he didnt have formal mma training, but he did KO his last 5 or so opponents until we fought. and i can say that i successfully defended myself using CMA. and he had inches and dozens of pounds on me.

i havent sparred or fought many smaller guys actually.

anyways, athletic ability, fight instinct, and physical training are major keys IMO.

um...ok...nevermind...

[KTS]

um...ok...nevermind...

sorry, i should introduce myself.

i study hsing i and gao baguazhang from hung i-hsiangs lineage(my teach learned from hung) and hunyuan tai chi from chen zhonghua's student/senior instructor. started about 20 years ago in karate, learned some kickboxing in between and have some experience with wrestling.

any other questions, PM me.

but, i just meant to say that, while having big muscles do help, knowing how to use them works very well too.

the thread didnt sound too serious, so i appologize if i went off in a different direction.

[uki]

what about a handful of loganberries?

what then?

eh?ok... even with all the information at the tips of my fingers, i will not search for wtf a loganberry is... so please do tell and i will continue with our game. :p


but, i just meant to say that, while having big muscles do help, knowing how to use them works very well too.and having you face still attached to you head helps too.


the thread didnt sound too serious, so i appologize if i went off in a different direction.i don't take the McMA too seriously either, but i won't apologize for it. :D

[David Jamieson]

loganberries...mmmmm (http://images.google.ca/images?q=loganberry&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi)

[Oso]

sorry, i should introduce myself.

i study hsing i and gao baguazhang from hung i-hsiangs lineage(my teach learned from hung) and hunyuan tai chi from chen zhonghua's student/senior instructor. started about 20 years ago in karate, learned some kickboxing in between and have some experience with wrestling.

any other questions, PM me.

but, i just meant to say that, while having big muscles do help, knowing how to use them works very well too.

the thread didnt sound too serious, so i appologize if i went off in a different direction.

no need to apologize...but, really...of course the thread isn't being allowed to be serious....it's a tired, arthritic subject with plenty of other threads out there easy to find with the search function if one really cares what a bunch of other people on an internet forum have to say about it

:)

[uki]

no need to apologize...but, really...of course the thread isn't being allowed to be serious....it's a tired, arthritic subject with plenty of other threads out there easy to find with the search function if one really cares what a bunch of other people on an internet forum have to say about it.wow!! it really IS simpler than you think. :D

[TenTigers]

I think loganberries are found mostly in IKEA stores...

[sanjuro_ronin]

I think loganberries are found mostly in IKEA stores...

IKEA, Swedish for, mother****ing piece of **** with ****ing ****sucking multi-purpose key that needs to be shoved up the ****ing ass of the piece of mother****ing **** that created it, **** !!!!!!

[taai gihk yahn]

I think loganberries are found mostly in IKEA stores...

and are mighty tastee to boot!

actually, IKEA food in general is pretty yumsors...



IKEA, Swedish for, mother****ing piece of **** with ****ing ****sucking multi-purpose key that needs to be shoved up the ****ing ass of the piece of mother****ing **** that created it, **** !!!!!!
you obviously havn't tried their herring in cream sauce

[sanjuro_ronin]

and are mighty tastee to boot!

actually, IKEA food in general is pretty yumsors...



you obviously havn't tried their herring in cream sauce

IKEA can take their 1 dollar breakfast and their swedish meat balls and herrings and any other fowl, woodland creature or goats testicles passed off as meatballs and shove them up their mother****ing crack, those ****ed up asswiping crack poaking ****blowers !!

Swedish women, however, are quite fine.

[taai gihk yahn]

Swedish women, however, are quite fine.
so you say...

[David Jamieson]

I think loganberries are found mostly in IKEA stores...

Actually those are lingonberries (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&ei=oFxXSsyuGongMefn2J0I&resnum=0&q=lingonberries&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=olxXSvLeEJGsMa7HtZ0I&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4). Very tasty though I agree.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I know what you want, you perv !

[lkfmdc]

sanjuro, he's the party starter, vroom vroom

:D

[David Jamieson]

That last one was deadly!

I think I'm allergic to looking at her because when I popped that open, I got this swelling....


:D

[taai gihk yahn]

Actually those are lingonberries (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&ei=oFxXSsyuGongMefn2J0I&resnum=0&q=lingonberries&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=olxXSvLeEJGsMa7HtZ0I&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4). Very tasty though I agree.

you say "lingon", I say "longan"...let's call the whole thing off!

[taai gihk yahn]

I know what you want, you perv !

may the road rise up to meet you, and may the hair on your toes never fall off!

[uki]

may the road rise up to meet you, this happened to me once... i was in germany, drunk and being a dung-hole(imagine that), when all of a sudden i was punched out by a guy i was antagonizing. LOL! i fell face first to the asphalt, smashed my mouth open, busted a front capped tooth out, and had two black eyes for like a month.


and may the hair on your toes never fall off!it would be awesome to have hairy feet and toes so that you could go barefoot in the winter-time snow...

[Lucas]

lol uki. for some reason im not suprised.

;)

[Scott R. Brown]

you say "lingon", I say "longan"...let's call the whole thing off!

He says lingon, you say longan, I say lingham! :p:p:p:eek:

[uki]

lol uki. for some reason im not suprised.well it certainly took me by suprise! i woke up in the hospital, didn't no where the heck i was, ripped the IV out and ran up into the alps for a month to wait for my last paycheck... LOL... the incident effectively terminated my employment with the AFRC. :D