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Tainan Mantis
07-12-2009, 03:36 PM
Hi All,
On Friday August 14th I fly to Tennessee for a weekend workshop on Tai Ji Beng Bu.

I teach 2 roads and applications of the form.

Kevin

Tensei85
07-12-2009, 04:08 PM
That's awesome! safe travels and all the best.

yu shan
07-12-2009, 07:15 PM
Shifu, we are looking forward to having you here and learning this section of TaiJi Tanglang Beng Bu. I have always been infatuated with TaiJi Mantis version of Beng Bu. From what my Shi-xiong tells me it has very complicated apps and drills!

Tensei85
07-13-2009, 08:19 PM
I'm curious since were on the topic at what point in Beng Bu taught in the Taiji Tong Long system? Do the system also utilize the "Ling Beng Bu" set as well?

Thanks,

TaichiMantis
07-14-2009, 05:12 AM
I'm curious since were on the topic at what point in Beng Bu taught in the Taiji Tong Long system? Do the system also utilize the "Ling Beng Bu" set as well?

Thanks,

I originally learned it after Ba Da Ma Bu. Sifu Li teaches it 3rd after Gong Li Chuan. I've just started "re-learning" it with Sifu Li (even within tjtl there are different "flavors"). Sifu Li also teaches the ling side.

You may enjoy two articles on cck tcpm bung bo written by my kung fu uncle, Prof. Randy Choy, of Honolulu.


Training in "Thrusting Foot Boxing" (http://i-chuan.net/pages2/Choy6.html) One of the most awesome hand forms of the Taiji praying Mantis Boxing system is the "Thrusting Foot Boxing" (Beng Bo), which consists of fifty-six postures. My students always want to know the secret of learning this very old boxing form. My answer is: you have to understand the twelve kinds of praying mantis fighting techniques which led to the creation of the form some 300 years ago from Mr. Wang Lang of the Northern Sung Dynasty.

So let's go through "Thrusting Foot Boxing" and I will give you examples of where these twelve fighting techniques are.


If you are a practitioner of Northern Praying Mantis Boxing, then this article (http://i-chuan.net/pages2/Choy7.html)might be of some particular interest to you. The first step I would go through is to review my last article, analyzing your boxing form's horse stances and basic footwork. See if Mr. Wang Lang's twelve fighting techniques of "Thrusting Foot Boxing" (Beng Bo) does apply in some way to your boxing form. So let's go through a few "Rules of Chuan." This is what I do when I learn a boxing form. After learning all of the movements in this form, I would create a mental image of what I'm practicing. Based on the "Rules of Chuan," there must be an entire list of fist, palm, and claw strikes. If your instructor did not supply you with a list, then you've got to list it down yourself.

mantis108
07-14-2009, 01:11 PM
After the basics (8 stances, single moves, 2 men practices, etc) are taught In CCK TCPM, we will begin with Gongliquan (KUNG LIK KUNE) generally. The second form sometimes would be Jiegen (swiftly follow) or Bengbu depending on the teacher. but both forms wouldl be taught before Lanjie.

There is indeed a Bengbu 2 men form or "ling" side to it. This form basically showcase the ideal flavor of engagement of the style. So it is important to understand the rhythm and flow of this form besides the applications and counters for the CCK TCPM practitioners.

Mantis108

gunglihchuan
07-14-2009, 01:59 PM
Bung Bu is a great form and the Taichi Praying mantis version is different but not so different from other versions.

This was the 3rd hand form that I learned.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=40627603

Tensei85
07-16-2009, 10:57 AM
Awesome! Thanks a lot Taichimantis, Mantis108 and Gunglihchuan.

Much appreciated. :)

alextse4
07-23-2009, 04:52 AM
I originally learned it after Ba Da Ma Bu. Sifu Li teaches it 3rd after Gong Li Chuan. I've just started "re-learning" it with Sifu Li (even within tjtl there are different "flavors"). Sifu Li also teaches the ling side.

You may enjoy two articles on cck tcpm bung bo written by my kung fu uncle, Prof. Randy Choy, of Honolulu.

I have published this book in the 80.

Tainan Mantis
07-27-2009, 11:51 AM
HI Alex,
I have that book as well as your lanjie book. Both excellent books on the forms.

I did not get your fan book as I did not learn that form.

I had heard that there had been plans to make another book I think Jie Gen or Dan Zai Mei Hua.

It is a pity they never came out.
Maybe they are still in the works?

TaichiMantis
07-27-2009, 12:34 PM
I have published this book in the 80.


nice! I have your fan book:D

alextse4
07-28-2009, 04:25 AM
HI Alex,
I have that book as well as your lanjie book. Both excellent books on the forms.

I did not get your fan book as I did not learn that form.

I had heard that there had been plans to make another book I think Jie Gen or Dan Zai Mei Hua.

It is a pity they never came out.
Maybe they are still in the works?

Hi Tainan mantis:
I haven't plan to make another taichi mantis book yet. But I have written a book named Bei shou Lin quan(secret hand continuous strikes). it contained a lot of mantis shou fat for 2men and ling bung bo also Yin Ching Por Dar.
My next book is about jian.
Regards,
Alex

Citong Shifu
07-28-2009, 07:34 AM
Shifu, we are looking forward to having you here and learning this section of TaiJi Tanglang Beng Bu. I have always been infatuated with TaiJi Mantis version of Beng Bu. From what my Shi-xiong tells me it has very complicated apps and drills!

Hey Guys, How's everything been going? Sorry I haven't been in contact lately, but things have been really bad here in So. Illinois. Economy sucks!!!!! One of these days I'll catch up with all of you, promise.... I need a second job, lol :)

CS

yu shan
07-28-2009, 09:17 AM
Hey Ron, can you make it to Shifu Kevin Brazier`s Beng Bu weekend training? We would love to have you.

Jim

Tainan Mantis
07-28-2009, 10:01 AM
Hi Tainan mantis:
I haven't plan to make another taichi mantis book yet. But I have written a book named Bei shou Lin quan(secret hand continuous strikes). it contained a lot of mantis shou fat for 2men and ling bung bo also Yin Ching Por Dar.
My next book is about jian.
Regards,
Alex

Hi Alex,
How do I get the book Secret Hand and Continuous Strikes?

Which Jian form is the book on?

Kevin

alextse4
07-28-2009, 07:02 PM
Hi Alex,
How do I get the book Secret Hand and Continuous Strikes?

Which Jian form is the book on?

Kevin

Hi Kelvin:
My second jian book contained nearly everything regarding jian, a lot of color photo of my antique swords collection too. The jian form is LinWan jian of CCKTaichi mantis that I had been published in New martial hero magazine in the 80.And a [mantis pentrate forest]double handed jian form.I had put some of the explanation of the BSLQ in youtube before,and a clip of this jian form too.I haven't publish this book yet,If you are interested in my book,please write to my e-mail : alexanderx@126.com
Best regards,
alex

bodhi warrior
07-29-2009, 01:55 PM
Is this seminar open to anyone?

yu shan
07-29-2009, 03:28 PM
bodhi warrior

Yes it is, do you need information? If so pm me.

Jim

Citong Shifu
08-04-2009, 09:59 AM
Hey Ron, can you make it to Shifu Kevin Brazier`s Beng Bu weekend training? We would love to have you.

Jim

Hi Jim,

I'm not really sure yet. Please PM me with some details and costs for workshop. Also, how long would you say it was from Alton, IL to Nashville? You gave me some directions a while back, dont know where there at now... Okay, talk to you later.

Ron

TaichiMantis
08-06-2009, 05:01 AM
My sifu reviews 2 person bung bo with Sifu Ta of Australia in 1987

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxu4snPa3zE

Tainan Mantis
08-08-2009, 06:33 PM
I won't go into the complete two man form at the Beng Bu workshop.
I will teach two roads of the form as well as two man drills for elbows, palms, strikes, capturing etc.
With an emphasis on the following.

There will be a lot to cover and I will drill the students with little chance to rest.

In between it all there will also be two person stick from this form

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6gHTOrImQ


Mantis Techniques at the workshop5 Elbow Attacks

Elbow snatches treasure at sea bottom
Folding elbow with leaping steps
Binding hands ge elbow
Elbow to sky
Turning elbow

5 Palm Strikes

Adding palm
Beating palm
Waist chopping palm
Smashing palm
Palm of Tai Mountain

3 Fists

Adding fist
Collapsing fist
Pasting fist

5 Stepping Methods

Dodging steps
Leaping steps
Retreating and capturing steps
Advancing steps
Overturning step

5 Mantis Grabs

Hooks to the inside, outside, top and bottom
Plucking hands
Binding hands
Fastening and sealing
Stealing open

Two man drills for elbows, palms, strikes, capturing and more!

TaichiMantis
08-09-2009, 08:48 AM
you could do many seminars on the techniques in bung bo...my fave form! I wish I could go...good luck!

Crushing Step
08-20-2009, 05:25 AM
Morning Kevin & Jim-

Any feedback on the weekend workshop? I lived an hour south of Nashville up until six months ago, or else I would have surely attended!

Jason

yu shan
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Hi Jason

How have you been? I really like this version of beng bu. It has a springiness to it, really shows the light bounding skips and hops. So far we learned 5 two man drills to master. Shifu also had a six harmony staff class. Went over the form with him critiquing each of us on the form. Then we learned more of the two man form. This is a terrific stick form and the two man is fun but challenging.

Jim

Crushing Step
08-20-2009, 02:07 PM
Outstanding! I was back in Nashville for a weekend about two months ago but things were too busy, I'll try to give a shout out next time I roll through town.