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Shaolinstudent
07-16-2009, 11:59 AM
I hace a book that teaches the form of the sword style but not the applications. I am also having trouble with performing the form has anybody seen a video of the form or know the applications to the form

Lokhopkuen
07-16-2009, 06:29 PM
It's a Northern Shaolin form:D

SPJ
07-17-2009, 07:31 AM
need more info to tell.

dragon form/shape or long xing is not dragon walking.

usually we say dragon is crouching or swimming and not walking.

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in Ba Gua, there is a dragon riding stance/step--

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:confused:

No_Know
07-19-2009, 08:12 AM
I have heard of the book, a form with such a name.

The applications reveal as needed. Learn the techniques.

But what is your wonder about use...for which technique? Mention a techniques describe some of the movement I migght be able to offer an application. Not necessarily the applications the form originators intended or that's practical but reasonable to some extent I might think.

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No_Know
07-19-2009, 09:46 AM
I think different things for different and the same people...

Sword at left, point to sky:

Applicatioin: left hand--sword is done with the right hand. so your left hand holds the sword representing you do not start with a sword in your hand as you have to draw a concealed weapon you can approach when weapons are not noticeable. Holding the sword point-up and along the back-ish of the left arm much of the sword is hidden. Walking, the left arm kept forward, the tip which extends beyond the shoulder is tilted out of sight from poeple directly in front of you. the blade is thin and might be hard to see anways else. Except for glare with an attitude walk the sword is invisibleand can be a secret cut (Not show in the form but an application none-the less.

No_Know

Application: sword fingers--this hides more of the handle while the palm and thumb out (relaxed~) hides the hilt.

Hidden Sword to Chest (I No-Know the names in the book exactly with all the moves described to be understood. Not actual names in book)--

Application: --a deflection to hurt a bare arm or meet an edged weapon or block a hard strike, sort-of-thing. The sword fingers grip makes the handle fingers clear for a lot of the handle for blocking/deflecting.

The blade rises can cut a person to the side on its own or while deflecting. The bledafter or during a deflection isat chest to face level of arush/sneak attackfrom the side. Or gut level diagonally--preventing getting grabbed from that side or hurting potentialy someone moving in on you from that side.

Sweeping-Brush and Poke

Application: --this could be a continuation of the deflect/block application. swiping down an attack during which you attack with the poke. Attacking while blocking/is attacking during a distraction--their focus on the faied attack or rerouted failing attack. Recommended attack zones for the poke is throat, places on the face (not giving suspected major hurt zones onlie right here).

Also the blade moves, being a possible uppercut with a blade to someone behind-ish you. Per haps as a rear elbow a rear stab.

Transfer (Hiddensword Elbow)

Application:--putting the sword into the sword arm hand cat stance and back move to comply with someone moving in on you from the front. like the guy in the movies comming downand you pull a pointy stick proppedat persons gut person ramming themselves on the point...

No_Know No_KnowNOTE:I got upto around the Sweeping the Army. I see my practice sessions learning the form from the book. I am giving what I recall though it has been twenty years or so since I practiced with a sword in hand.

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TenTigers
07-19-2009, 12:39 PM
My Sifu taught me a Double BroadSword form that had a portion called, "Lung Hong Bot Gua" Dragon walks the Eight Diagrams"

Lokhopkuen
07-19-2009, 01:49 PM
I hace a book that teaches the form of the sword style but not the applications. I am also having trouble with performing the form has anybody seen a video of the form or know the applications to the form

The applications include several disarms as well as the cutting of the wrist, fingers and thumb. It is one of the Bak Siu Lum inherited training forms. The book you refer to is very close to the way I was taught. Loong Ham Gim in Cantonese but my Cantonese is bad...

No_Know
07-20-2009, 09:12 AM
Not a cat stance but a crouching single legged stance.