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facaodotigre
07-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Hello . Somebody know something about this Monkey System ? I want to know if is a separate Monkey Style or belong to the Tong Bei Quan family systems . I 'd saw a tape and is a really cool fighting style . All fighting applications looks like very real and effective .


http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd4/coll_yuangong.htm



THank You

Xian
07-02-2011, 11:07 PM
Hey I have also come across this style and I very enjoy that. Maybe know one here who knows more about it ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPD_24TeRkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWPvKa2NOU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOD_MuvzcwY&feature=related


Kind regards,
Xian

RenDaHai
07-03-2011, 06:35 AM
Some examples of this style on Chinese Video Sites;

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjAzMTAwNzI4.html


http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjAzMDkzODky.html


If you look after the half way point in each he demonstrates some applications.

If you type this in on the various chinese sites you can find quite a lot of amatuer videos of this same style; 猿功拳

Contains a fair bit of Detang moves (Moves from lying on the floor),

mooyingmantis
07-03-2011, 07:06 AM
There are some similarities between the above and Monkey boxing.

However, traditional monkey boxing (猴 拳 - houquan):

1. Doesn't have as strong of an emphasis on long arm movements as ape boxing (猿 拳 - yuanquan).
2. Uses much more compact stances than ape boxing.
3. Has a more equal blend of hand and foot techniques (four hands theory) than ape boxing.
4. Emphasizes the quick and short over the hard and long. Yes, this is different than my first point.

Yuangongquan does remind me of some of the Tongbeiquan that I have seen. It looks like a very interesting style. Thanks for posting the clips!

YiQuanOne
07-03-2011, 07:27 AM
Hello . Somebody know something about this Monkey System ? I want to know if is a separate Monkey Style or belong to the Tong Bei Quan family systems . I 'd saw a tape and is a really cool fighting style . All fighting applications looks like very real and effective .


http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd4/coll_yuangong.htm



THank You

Nothing is effective without proper timing and proper energy transfer, jumping around swinging your arms is fine, but unless you can do it at the right time and at the proper distance with maintain proper balance and body control, nothing just works and still defend yourself from him hitting you.

SPJ
07-03-2011, 10:26 AM
even thou you see

big steps and big arm moves

but when you release or express power

it is a short distance and grinding or stomping sudden outburst of power

it is a short power.

da pi da gua

large pi large gua but small chan or xiao chan

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Xian
07-03-2011, 12:08 PM
Hey thanks guys, any chance that someone of you knows a little about the History of this style or should I look under Yuan Quan ?


Kind regards,
Xian

Xian
07-03-2011, 12:24 PM
http://brucelixh.blog.163.com/blog/static/15695412006881231741/

I found a little with Rendahais Keyword. Thanks :)


Kind regards,
Xian

SPJ
07-04-2011, 08:12 PM
tong bei and pi gua are considered long arm or full arm boxing methods

actually sun bin fist is even longer

you shake your long sleeves out

so it is longer than your arm

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:eek:

SPJ
07-04-2011, 08:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84ZLwgLKhg&feature=player_embedded

:)

Xian
07-05-2011, 08:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84ZLwgLKhg&feature=player_embedded

:)

Hey SPJ whats the video about ? I cant see it in my country.


Kind regards,
Xian

SPJ
07-05-2011, 08:46 AM
it is a video compiled in japan.

it was about sun bin fist 32 hands.

there are different frames/routines.

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:)

Xian
07-05-2011, 02:08 PM
it is a video compiled in japan.

it was about sun bin fist 32 hands.

there are different frames/routines.

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:)

Okay thanks I look for some other vids on it.


Kind regards,
Xian