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solo1

10-16-2009, 02:19 PM

No she's just the daughter of a senator and former presidential candidate and one would expect a little decorum from someone raised with such privilege. Wonder how your typical amoral liberal would have responded if it was Chelsea Clinton behaving like that, of course the press would destroy the photographer and his family as liberals and their kids are given cover for every foible. Of course the press thinks nothing of Megans behavior she hates Sarah Palin and spoke out againest her father. Hell the Bush twins were out drinking and you'd think the world was coming apart. So which is it? Drinking bad but acting like cheap **** is okay? Can't wait to hear your thoughts 15 years from now when Obamas progeny are filmed on strippers poles.Conservatives are prudes? Liberals are " if it feels good do it" amoral, children.

BoulderDawg

10-16-2009, 02:41 PM

I saw the picture. If you think that is a picture of a girl trying to be a **** then you have a lot more problems than I can address.

bustr

10-16-2009, 10:04 PM

Conservatives...Prudes? Who would have thought? BTW Who is Megan McCann anyway?

BoulderDawg

10-17-2009, 11:12 AM

I just heard where she caved into the Neo pressure. She went on Twitter and said she was sorry for being a **** and would not be one in the future!:D

solo1

10-17-2009, 06:42 PM

solo1

10-17-2009, 06:50 PM

Conservatives...Prudes? Who would have thought? BTW Who is Megan McCann anyway?

you mean like nationalizing banks, the auto industry, trying to seize control of health care, redistribution of the nations wealth to its" rightfull owners"? As if the income you and I earn first belongs to the federal government and they will decide what should best be done with it. To the lord obama the Constitution is an impediment to his socialist utopia. He has as much said so.

BoulderDawg

10-17-2009, 09:24 PM

she more then likely caved to pressure from her father. Look no one is surprised or even shocked if Madonna airs out her junk in a self published book but how would anyone respond if photos like meghan mccains surfaced but it was Carolyn Kennedy? We would be outraged even if she put it out there herself. Conservatives aren't prudes we just expect more from our leaders and their kids( perhaps naively) and expect them to be model citizens and people again perhaps naively. Megan is an adult and can do what she wants but for someone of her stature ( politically speaking) the standards are different. Conservatives are hard on their own as they are on the opposition.

I'm assuming you mean Caroline Kennedy who is 52 years old. I would be impressed if she did that at her age.

Speaking of holding conservatives to a higher standard, so to speak. Let's talk about Noelle Bush. I just did a google search on her and could not find any information since 2002. Nothing, Nada...zilch!!!! It's like she disappeared off the face of the planet. Sounds like someone really clamped down on her tight. Especially since daddy might be running for prez in eight years.

That's what I love about being liberal! We don't have to hide any relatives!:D

solo1

10-18-2009, 11:57 AM

boulderdawg you slay me. Have to get back to my Bengals football hope you have great Sunday afternoon. Thanks the image of a 52 year old carolyn Kennedy cannot be unseen!!

BoulderDawg

10-18-2009, 12:58 PM

Regardless of age Caroline is an attractive lady. In much better shape than Megan.

Megan is the kind of girl who could walk into a club and most of the guys aren't even going to turn their head. However once they know who is is and that's she's rich and famous then every guy in the club will be on her. I'm sure she has no problem getting guys. Probably guys more interested in who her father is than in her but so what?

Even so she can't have it both ways. She can't come out "Oh I'm so liberated and I'm not a prude." then turn around and apologize for a mildly sexy picture on twitter.

1bad65

10-18-2009, 03:21 PM

boulderdawg you slay me.

The guy is a space cadet.

He truly believes a white dude who runs around barefoot and wears Billy Jack attire is a true American Indian. Even after said white guy ADMITTED he is not an Indian, BD still swears the guy is an Indian.

BoulderDawg

10-18-2009, 04:25 PM

He truly believes a white dude who runs around barefoot and wears Billy Jack attire is a true American Indian. Even after said white guy ADMITTED he is not an Indian, BD still swears the guy is an Indian.

What does any of that have to do with Megan McCain?

bustr

10-18-2009, 06:06 PM

you mean like nationalizing banks, the auto industry, trying to seize control of health care, redistribution of the nations wealth to its" rightfull owners"? As if the income you and I earn first belongs to the federal government and they will decide what should best be done with it. To the lord obama the Constitution is an impediment to his socialist utopia. He has as much said so.

Nationalizing banks is a good idea. The auto industry is still private. They should also control health care to keep it affordable. The republiKKKONs and their fascist corporate owners have been practicing wealth redistribution all along in the form of $4/gallon gas, $800/month health insurance and a ****load of giveaways to unocal, halliburton, carlyle, israel and other criminal groups. Eventually the loans used to fund these corporate welfare bums will have to be paid back and that will fall on us. To hell with the GOP and their privatization sacrament. The GOP is about nothing more than corporate welfare for war profiteers and robber barons:D

1bad65

10-19-2009, 07:21 AM

Nationalizing banks is a good idea. The auto industry is still private. They should also control health care to keep it affordable. The republiKKKONs and their fascist corporate owners have been practicing wealth redistribution all along in the form of $4/gallon gas, $800/month health insurance and a ****load of giveaways to unocal, halliburton, carlyle, israel and other criminal groups. Eventually the loans used to fund these corporate welfare bums will have to be paid back and that will fall on us. To hell with the GOP and their privatization sacrament. The GOP is about nothing more than corporate welfare for war profiteers and robber barons:D

It must be nice to make up facts as you go along. :rolleyes:

Nationalizing banks rarely works. Look at Cuba, the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Fascist Italy for examples where it has failed, and failed badly.

The auto industry is stil 1/3 private. We have Ford left. The other 2 companies are, for all intents and purposes, government controlled. Heck, Obama chose the current CEO of GM! If that's not proof the Governemrnt runs GM, I don't know what is.

As for gas prices, you're completely ignorant on that one. As far as it being "wealth redistribution", it can be called that, but it's the Government getting the vast majority money, not the private sector. Take a look one day at what the taxes are on a gallon of gas (Federal, State, and local) and then compare that to the profit margin the oil companies make. The Government makes more profit on gasoline than the oil companies do. Mark my words.

As for bailouts, you can't entirely blame Bush on that one. Look at the bailout money spent on Obama's watch as opposed to Bush's. And keep in mind, Obama is less than 1 year into his term, while Bush did 8 full years! CNN just showed last week that our deficit is at a level not seen since 1945! And that was based on 2009 numbers, so you can't blame Bush for that one either.

1bad65

10-19-2009, 07:23 AM

Bustr, can you source that quote in your sig?

I'm guessing you can't. After all, we all see how you liberals love to just make up quotes and claim your political opponents said them.

solo1

10-19-2009, 07:47 AM

It must be nice to make up facts as you go along. :rolleyes:

Nationalizing banks rarely works. Look at Cuba, the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Fascist Italy for examples where it has failed, and failed badly.

The auto industry is stil 1/3 private. We have Ford left. The other 2 companies are, for all intents and purposes, government controlled. Heck, Obama chose the current CEO of GM! If that's not proof the Governemrnt runs GM, I don't know what is.

As for gas prices, you're completely ignorant on that one. As far as it being "wealth redistribution", it can be called that, but it's the Government getting the vast majority money, not the private sector. Take a look one day at what the taxes are on a gallon of gas (Federal, State, and local) and then compare that to the profit margin the oil companies make. The Government makes more profit on gasoline than the oil companies do. Mark my words.

As for bailouts, you can't entirely blame Bush on that one. Look at the bailout money spent on Obama's watch as opposed to Bush's. And keep in mind, Obama is less than 1 year into his term, while Bush did 8 full years! CNN just showed last week that our deficit is at a level not seen since 1945! And that was based on 2009 numbers, so you can't blame Bush for that one either.

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sorry dude mis read your original write. I agree with every point you made.

BoulderDawg

10-19-2009, 08:53 AM

Hey Bad your good about making speeches but not so good when it comes to hard questions:

What does Ward Churchill have to do with Megan McCain?

I thought that was a fairly simple question.

Drake

10-19-2009, 11:23 AM

1bad65

10-19-2009, 01:00 PM

We have less tax on our gas than anywhere in the EU or Canada. Possibly the world, but I'd have to check the facts on that one.

And if you are paying $800 a month on health insurance, you are being robbed.

True about how our taxes on gas are lower than the Europeans. But I still stand by my assertion that the Government makes more on a gallon of gas than the oil companies profit margin is on that same gallon of gas.

That $800/month figure won't be too far off if we get socialized medicine here in the US. :eek: Well, the ones of us who actually work will pay alot more for it. Those who do nothing and let the Government/taxpayers take care of them will not pay anymore than they do with the current system. They will still pay ZERO.

bustr

10-19-2009, 07:37 PM

Bustr, can you source that quote in your sig?

I'm guessing you can't. After all, we all see how you liberals love to just make up quotes and claim your political opponents said them.

It was reported by Capitol Hill Blue. Do your own research. Three generations of bushes have been in bed with conservative scum such as hitler and bin laden. Juniors reference to the Constitution as a "god****ed piece of paper" should hardly surprise anyone.

No auto companies were forced to take the LOANS. LOANS which will be paid back by them not taxpayers. Nationalizing the federal reserve would take it out of the hands of multinationals with no loyalty to the US (a trait they share with the GOP). The republiKKKONS have thrown away a ****load of money on their cronies. Some of it on bailouts with no oversight but most on no-bid, cost-plus war spending (AGAIN WITH NO OVERSIGHT).

Drake

10-19-2009, 08:51 PM

Uh... Hitler was a liberal.

1bad65

10-19-2009, 11:45 PM

It was reported by Capitol Hill Blue. Do your own research. Three generations of bushes have been in bed with conservative scum such as hitler and bin laden. Juniors reference to the Constitution as a "god****ed piece of paper" should hardly surprise anyone.

Bottom line; You can't source it. You know he didn't say it.

It's par for the course for you liberals. Speaking of the Nazis, wasn't it Goebbels who said 'A lie repeated enough becomes truth'? And which side is making up all these lies about things conservatives never said......

1bad65

10-19-2009, 11:58 PM

Well, I did do a little research on this supposed quote, and I was correct in my assumption that there is ZERO proof GW Bush said it.

"The Internet has been burning up this past week over a column written by Doug Thompson for Capitol Hill Blue. There hasn't been a single word about this controversial column on any major or cable network- all owned by new world order advocates. Just what did Thompson write that has so many Americans seething? In his December 9, 2005 column, Thompson writes:

"GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

"I don't give a god****," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a god****ed piece of paper!"

Thompson goes on to say, "I've talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution "a god****ed piece of paper."

Thompson maintains he has three solid sources who were in attendance at this meeting. He doesn't give a specific date of the meeting, just "Last month..." <> At this time it appears none of these individuals Thompson's cites as being there is willing to step forward to either corroborate or deny Bush expressed his utter contempt for the supreme law of the land laced with profanity. Either this is the usual gutless stance from DC or the allegations are simply untrue. Right now, the claims Thompson has made in his column have been taken as the Gospel. If Thompson had given a date, at least that would give serious researchers a solid place to start in tracking down which Republican congress critters were there.

On something this serious, for me, Thompson's word just isn't enough. The only way the American people are going to know for sure is absolute corroboration. Until then, Thompson's column will continue to get circulated around the Net (I've received a thousand forwards) and taken as fact by some and laughed off by most - just more Bush bashing from "the left."

It is common knowledge that meetings in the White House are taped, both audio and video. In order to prove beyond any doubt and put this issue to rest once and for all, I hope that some news outlet will file a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to acquire the audio and/or video tapes of this meeting."

http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd146.htm

David Jamieson

10-20-2009, 08:48 AM

Uh... Hitler was a liberal.

uh, no he wasn't.

he was a fascist operating under a pretext of nationalisma and socialism.

socialism is not liberal either.

Classical Liberalism is the keystone to North America.
Believe it.

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

don't try to paint fascism as liberalism it isn't and it makes you look dumb for doing so. YOu will find that fascism in all political science classes and in all political science thinkers of any merit falls under right wing thought, which is where you will find all sorts of authoritarian police state models as well.

on teh far left it is the same.

be a centrist is the best way. left is stupid, right is stupid center with a little give either way is what is correct.

1bad65

10-20-2009, 08:51 AM

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

Me and you are usually on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I appreciate you putting the truth before politics. Thank you.

BoulderDawg

10-20-2009, 08:56 AM

So what is classical liberalism? I've never heard of that.

Sounds like some BS made up by the neos to suggest that way back in the day liberalism use to be cool but today it's not.:D

By the way I assume you have a link to the "proof" that the tapes were reviewed and there is proof positive Bush did not say that.

bustr

10-20-2009, 06:11 PM

Bottom line; You can't source it. You know he didn't say it.

It's par for the course for you liberals. Speaking of the Nazis, wasn't it Goebbels who said 'A lie repeated enough becomes truth'? And which side is making up all these lies about things conservatives never said......

I told you to do your own ****ed research. As far as lies becoming truth I seem to recall this one from YOUR village idiot, "Saddam is seeking to develop weapons of mass destruction". When it comes to lies you republiKKKON fascists are the biggest offenders.

BoulderDawg

10-20-2009, 06:34 PM

What's funny is that they claim they have "proof" that he didn't say it.....well......we're waiting for that "proof".

I haven't exactly heard were Bush came out and denied it.

Drake

10-20-2009, 07:32 PM

uh, no he wasn't.

he was a fascist operating under a pretext of nationalisma and socialism.

socialism is not liberal either.

Classical Liberalism is the keystone to North America.
Believe it.

as for the Bush comment, that is 100% viral, he never said it. The tapes have been reviewed and the original accusation is pure fiction.

don't try to paint fascism as liberalism it isn't and it makes you look dumb for doing so. YOu will find that fascism in all political science classes and in all political science thinkers of any merit falls under right wing thought, which is where you will find all sorts of authoritarian police state models as well.

on teh far left it is the same.

be a centrist is the best way. left is stupid, right is stupid center with a little give either way is what is correct.

He enacted liberal policies, and they appeared even moreso in light of the typically conservative German politics. I don't know where you got your definition of liberal, but I got mine in college.

bustr

10-20-2009, 07:55 PM

It doesn't even matter if bush SAID the constitution was a god****ed piece of paper. Bush was just a dipsh!t doing the bidding of his father Bush sr. The same bush sr who just happened to be in a meeting with shafiq binladen on 9/11. bush sr is of course the son of prescott bush, an officer of the thyssen corporation who funded adolph hitler. So you can see that the bushes have a long history of crapping on liberty. Even if he didn't say it her certainly believed it.

BoulderDawg

10-20-2009, 07:56 PM

He enacted liberal policies, and they appeared even moreso in light of the typically conservative German politics. I don't know where you got your definition of liberal, but I got mine in college.

I don't really care what your definition of "liberal" is. However I would like to know your definition of "moreso" because it's not in my dictionary.

Drake

10-20-2009, 09:01 PM

Did you happen to buy your dictionary from a wife-beating exploiter of native american culture? Last I checked, missing the space key wasn't nearly as heavy an offense.

Typical. Resort to pointing out minor typos in order to dodge a logical fallacy. At least I'm using my own words and not ripping them off from others.

1bad65

10-21-2009, 07:19 AM

I told you to do your own ****ed research.

I did. And it showed how stupid you are that you fell for a lie told by a hack reporter.

As far as lies becoming truth I seem to recall this one from YOUR village idiot, "Saddam is seeking to develop weapons of mass destruction". When it comes to lies you republiKKKON fascists are the biggest offenders.

2 points: 1) Saddam used chemical weapons on his own people, and Israel had to bomb a nuclear facility in Iraq in the past. Saddam never gave up his pursuit of nukes. 2) If the Iraq War is unjustified, why hasn't Obama pulled us out yet?

1bad65

10-21-2009, 07:21 AM

It doesn't even matter if bush SAID the constitution was a god****ed piece of paper... Even if he didn't say it her certainly believed it.

You're an absolute idiot.

And you're proud that you believed a liar. Hey, you and BD are made for each other!

BoulderDawg

10-21-2009, 12:00 PM

You're an absolute idiot.

And you're proud that you believed a liar. Hey, you and BD are made for each other!

You know, if anything, liberals are just nicer people. You won't see a liberal come to this board with such blatant rudeness and insult people like you read above.

Thank God we are secure in our beliefs.

bustr

10-21-2009, 04:26 PM

I did. And it showed how stupid you are that you fell for a lie told by a hack reporter.

2 points: 1) Saddam used chemical weapons on his own people, and Israel had to bomb a nuclear facility in Iraq in the past. Saddam never gave up his pursuit of nukes. 2) If the Iraq War is unjustified, why hasn't Obama pulled us out yet?

Suck on this! Fool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTldYbqlJc8&feature=player_embedded

Rumsfeld backed Saddam even after chemical attacks
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
24 December 2003

Fresh controversy about Donald Rumsfeld's personal dealings with Saddam Hussein was provoked yesterday by new documents that reveal he went to Iraq to show America's support for the regime despite its use of chemical weapons.

The formerly secret documents reveal the Defence Secretary travelled to Baghdad 20 years ago to assure Iraq that America's condemnation of its use of chemical weapons was made "strictly" in principle.

The criticism in no way changed Washington's wish to support Iraq in its war against Iran and "to improve bi-lateral relations ... at a pace of Iraq's choosing".

Earlier this year, Mr Rumsfeld and other members of the Bush administration regularly cited Saddam's willingness to use chemical weapons against his own people as evidence of the threat presented to the rest of the world.

Senior officials presented the attacks against the Kurds - particularly the notorious attack in Halabja in 1988 - as a justification for the invasion and the ousting of Saddam.

But the newly declassified documents reveal that 20 years ago America's position was different and that the administration of President Ronald Reagan was concerned about maintaining good relations with Iraq despite evidence of Saddam's "almost daily" use of chemical weapons against Iranian troops and Kurdish rebels.

Read more of the article here

BoulderDawg

10-21-2009, 04:46 PM

Forget all of that. History will judge Bush and his ilk. I'm more concerned with repairing the damage he left.

Drake

10-21-2009, 05:08 PM

Saddam was pursuing WMDs. He just turned out to be more inept than we expected. Two soldiers were poisoned by Sarin gas while moving old Iraqi munitions a while back. I suppose the sarin was planted by aliens supporting the illuminati?

And FYI... the democrats believed he had WMDs too.

Source:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

And about the Sarin gas. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/

And Saddam saying he has WMDs.
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2009/07/02/Saddam_WP.ART_ART_07-02-09_A7_D9EBUOT.html?sid=101

There is no argument here. If this doesn't convince you, then I won't bother any more, because you are too far gone.

David Jamieson

10-21-2009, 06:24 PM

He enacted liberal policies, and they appeared even moreso in light of the typically conservative German politics. I don't know where you got your definition of liberal, but I got mine in college.

dude. that's hilarious, and wrong. Hitler was totalitarian who used fascism as his philosophy and "national socialism" as his means to an ends.

what college did you go to? :rolleyes:

1bad65

10-22-2009, 07:09 AM

Suck on this! Fool!

Suck on what Drake said, fool.

And it's hilarious watching you call others fools, while your sig shows you yourself were taken for a fool.

BoulderDawg

10-22-2009, 09:24 AM

Suck on what Drake said, fool.

And it's hilarious watching you call others fools, while your sig shows you yourself were taken for a fool.

You guys said you had "proof" he did not say that. Apperently there was some sort of recording done.

Well, so far I haven't heard the recording and Bush hasn't denied saying it....I guess you're the one that looks foolish!:D

1bad65

10-22-2009, 09:56 AM

"There's no record of Bush ever using these words in public and no other news organization has reported him using them privately. Thompson based his report on three sources whom he didn't name. He gave the date of the quote as "last month," which would put it sometime in November 2005.

Thompson told us he based the story on e-mail messages from three persons he knows, all of whom claim to have been present at a White House meeting and to have heard Bush make the statement. He said he finds their account credible: "Sometimes I just have to go with my gut, and my gut tells me he did say this."

The unreliable gut

Thompson's "gut" has proven to be a unreliable guide in the past, however. He has admitted quoting trusted sources in the past who later turned out to be frauds -- twice.

In 2003 Thompson confessed that he had been "conned big time" by a source who claimed to be a former CIA contract consultant named Terrance J. Wilkinson. Thompson quoted this "source" as claiming to be present at two White House meetings in which Bush ignored intelligence officials' doubts about reports of Iraq seeking uranium. Thompson said he had been relying on the same man for two decades and had "no doubt" about his credibility, only to discover that "someone has been running a con on me for 20 some years and I fell for it like a little old lady in a pigeon drop scheme." He erased a number of stories from the site that had been based on information from "Wilkinson" and deleted anonymous quotes given to him by "Wilkinson" from other stories.

Thompson said then: "It will be a long time (and perhaps never) before I trust someone else who comes forward and offers inside information. The next one who does had better be prepared to produce a birth certificate, a driver's license and his grandmother's maiden name."

That was two years before the "piece of paper" quote attributed to three unnamed sources. But, far from demanding solid proof, Thompson continued to quote at least one more phony source until 2006, when a blogger started to question the existence of "George Harleigh." Thompson had for years quoted this supposed former Nixon and Bush appointee. But when no records of such a man could be found, Thompson admitted he had never even met him:

Doug Thompson (July 26, 2006): We would get quotes via email on current topics. He claimed to be a retired political science professor from Southern Illinois University and an appointee of both the Nixon and Bush administration. I was told he had been checked out. But he wasn't who he said he was and we used his phony name in stories.

This time Thompson says he revised or deleted 83 stories that had relied on information from "Harleigh" or quoted him.
In his defense, Thompson says: "[The] 83 articles that we revised or removed represent less than 1 percent of the total production of this Web site over the past 13 years. While errors must never be condoned, a 99+ percent of accuracy is a percentage I can live with. "

But we also note that Thompson described his own reporting habits this way:

Doug Thompson (July 26, 2006): I started taking more chances with stories, jumping on ones with sketchy sources, always trying to outdo the last "big" story. I had people willing to help me and they would send me info that I used often on their word alone.

. . . I wrote stories based on emails from sources I never met. I would meet self-proclaimed "important people" in out-of-the way bars, taking what they told me at face value. Washington is a breeding ground for phonies and wannabes. Too often I printed what they told me because I was so full of myself that I was sure it was true and did not require further verification.

By Thompson's own account, these were the habits still in place when he reported the "piece of paper" quote in 2005."

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_president_bush_call_the_constitution_a.html

Gee, this guy is almost as believeable as a wife-beating, phony veteran, white guy who says he is an American Indian.

BoulderDawg

10-28-2009, 04:49 PM

Speaking of prudes:

Let's laugh at Sarah Palin again

She is now involved in a New York Congressional race of an independant 3rd party candidate. Okay!:D Tell me again how I'm really suppose to care about that especially since I live in Colorado. Even then that's a hell of a lot closer than Sarah!:D

I hope her candidate wins. That will put her in the lead for the nomination next time around....Where do I donate?

BoulderDawg

11-01-2009, 04:43 PM

More on that NY Congressional race:

Could it spell the end of the GOP?

Very interesting story. The GOP candidate has now dropped out of the race because her backers and money has left her en masse. Now they are backing this nerdy looking neo from something called the "Conservative Party".

It's always good news to hear that people are leaving the GOP because it's too far to the left!:D Where can I contribute!

Drake

11-01-2009, 07:03 PM

1bad65

11-02-2009, 11:22 AM

That 'Neo' in the 23rd New York Congressional District is going to win that race.

And the Republicans are gonna win the Governor's race in Virginia by a good margin. Remember, in November Obama won in Virginia.

And the New Jersey Governor's race is close. Corzine, the incumbent Democrat who made $400 million from his stock in Goldman Sachs (where he was a CEO) in 1999, is running a close race. His opponent is a former United States DA. Funny, I thought the Neo Republicans were the super rich guys who ran companies into the ground yet kept all the money ??? :confused:

BoulderDawg

11-02-2009, 11:33 AM

That 'Neo' in the 23rd New York Congressional District is going to win that race.

Man do I hope so!:D

Several things going on here:

This candidate is radical neo right big time. The more moderate GOP candidate was kicked out on her ear in this race. I hope this guy wins. Let's the radicals take over the party. Or better yet let them try to get a foothold with this "Conservative Party". It's all good either way. Anytime you have the Neo moving further and further to the right that can only be good as far as the power they hold in Washington goes.

Also, Sarah Palin bet her entire political career on this race. If the guy wins it will probably establish her as the front runner and power in the party. As a liberal I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have running against Obama. Tell me where to contribute to her campaign!:p

1bad65

11-02-2009, 12:22 PM

Man do I hope so!:D

That makes two of us.

This candidate is radical neo right big time. The more moderate GOP candidate was kicked out on her ear in this race. I hope this guy wins. Let's the radicals take over the party. Or better yet let them try to get a foothold with this "Conservative Party". It's all good either way. Anytime you have the Neo moving further and further to the right that can only be good as far as the power they hold in Washington goes.

How is he a radical? He has pledged not to raise taxes, is anti-gay marriage, and is anti-abortion. Those are generally what Republicans run on. He is also for sending more troops to Afghanistan.

The ex-Republican nominee is a liberal. Period. She is for gay marriage, has repeatedly voted for tax increases, and is pro-abortion. I'm confused as to why she didn't run as a Democrat in the first place.

Also, Sarah Palin bet her entire political career on this race. If the guy wins it will probably establish her as the front runner and power in the party. As a liberal I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have running against Obama. Tell me where to contribute to her campaign!:p

She did??? Can you prove that? FYI, George Pataki, Fred Thompson, Tim Pawlenty, and Dick Armey are among prominent Republicans who back Hoffman. Are they 'going all in' as well? And Mrs Palin isn't running for any office, so I'm not sure how you would contribute to a non-existant campaign.

And as for Obama, his poll numbers are hovering around 50%, and have fallen below 50% in a few states he won in the election. His approval numbers were between 60%-70% just a few months ago.

BoulderDawg

11-02-2009, 12:57 PM

She did??? Can you prove that? FYI, George Pataki, Fred Thompson, Tim Pawlenty, and Dick Armey are among prominent Republicans who back Hoffman. Are they 'going all in' as well? And Mrs Palin isn't running for any office, so I'm not sure how you would contribute to a non-existant campaign.

To start with if you are telling me that Palin is not going to run then you don't know anything about politics.

As far as the others go: Pawlenty is running...that's obvious . The rest of those guys are just neos with a lot of money and power.

Bad, I think you should get on the Palin bandwagon right now! Help her win the White House!:D

Also, considering how her daughters like to party I might pay a visit to the WH myself when she wins!:eek:

Drake

11-02-2009, 04:30 PM

I would have to argue, 1Bad, that anyone supporting a troop increase in Afghanistan lacks a fundamental understanding of the nature of their conflict.

1bad65

11-02-2009, 05:35 PM

To start with if you are telling me that Palin is not going to run then you don't know anything about politics.

As far as the others go: Pawlenty is running...that's obvious . The rest of those guys are just neos with a lot of money and power.

Bad, I think you should get on the Palin bandwagon right now! Help her win the White House!:D

Also, considering how her daughters like to party I might pay a visit to the WH myself when she wins!:eek:

Didn't you just post the other day about name-calling? Dude, wtf do Palin's kids have to do with the topic at hand? Please tell us.

As to her running, I have no idea. I'm not an advisor to her or Mr Pawlenty. I guess you must know though. :rolleyes: After all, we've all seen how you can't even observe the obvious, what with you thinking that some lying white dude is an Indian and all.

As to who I vote for, I actually like to wait and see who actually runs. It's kind of common sense, which is why I had to type it out for you. I'm fairly certain I will vote for the most conservative candidate who runs though, I just have no idea of who will be running in the next election which is 3 friggin years away. Of course you seem to already know who all is running....:rolleyes:

1bad65

11-02-2009, 05:38 PM

I would have to argue, 1Bad, that anyone supporting a troop increase in Afghanistan lacks a fundamental understanding of the nature of their conflict.

I would think (and I may be wrong), that he said that to show he is not for the liberal 'cut and run' strategy or the Obama 'diddle-daddle' strategy.

Drake

11-02-2009, 06:20 PM

I would think (and I may be wrong), that he said that to show he is not for the liberal 'cut and run' strategy or the Obama 'diddle-daddle' strategy.

Cut and run? Are you serious? I strongly suggest you read more into COIN ops, historic COIN warfare, and what some of our commanders are saying on the ground. You can't just drop 40k troops into a hostile country with absolutely no idea of what to do with them. You know what they become? IED magnets.

COIN sucks, because all the Taliban have to do is outlast us, and they've shown they can last for as long as it takes, even if takes decades or longer. You really need to read "Learning How to Eat Soup With a Knife", by Ret. LTC John a Nagl. He documents how the "Mongolian Horde" logic versus unconventional warfare failed Britain numerous times.

To put more of my troops' lives on the line for the sake of being contrary to the President is f&^*ing heinous, pardon my language.

1bad65

11-02-2009, 06:56 PM

1bad65

11-02-2009, 07:03 PM

Drake

11-02-2009, 08:21 PM

Whoa Whoa!

I didn't say what you think I said. When I used the term 'cut and run', I referring to the liberals who want to just leave Iraq and Afghanistan. I've also never said that just increasing the troop count is the answer.

I'm no expert on our military, and I don't claim to be. I will say I feel the best policy is to listen to the military leaders/commanders and go from there. I do however think that Obama's indecision, and the other liberals calling for us to pack up and leave, are emboldening the enemy.

I'm talking about what you said about the conservative candidate. It IS time for us to leave Iraq, though.

I don't think politicians are good judges of how to wage a war. They fall prey to the basics of Mao's philosophy, where they get the enemy to cave into political pressure. This happened during our occupation of the Phillipines, only they weren't as successful.

On the same token, we aren't approaching A'stan properly. I think we should look to how Morocco handled their insurgency, which has now basically collapsed. The answer doesn't lie in machismo "we'll kill em all" or "send 100k troops NOW!".

BoulderDawg

11-02-2009, 10:06 PM

And as to BD acting as if conservatives are some sort of poison pill, look at history.

Reagan won TWO landslide elections running as a conservative. Clinton had to run as a moderate to win, heck he even executed a retarded guy to try and appear to be a law and order type and appeal to pro-death penalty voters. George W Bush ran as a 'compassionate conservative' and won twice. McCain ran as a moderate and lost pretty badly. Heck, Obama is a friggin socialist, and yet he had to run as a 'progressive' or 'moderate'. The last guy to openly run as a liberal in the general election was Mondale, and he suffered the worst Presidential election defeat in American history.

If conservatives are so reviled, and the country is so liberal, why does a liberal ALWAYS run as a moderate if he wants to win? ;)

I don't recall saying anything about liberalism being a popularity contest. I've said here on many occasions I don't vote because there is no one out there liberal enough to vote. Also, you can count the number of liberals in Washington on one hand.

But I'm all for it. If you guys think that extreme radical neo policy is how to go then more power to ya! I say go as far right as you can. Let the people judge you.

The real difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the liberal does not have the thrist for power.

1bad65

11-03-2009, 08:07 AM

But I'm all for it. If you guys think that extreme radical neo policy is how to go then more power to ya! I say go as far right as you can. Let the people judge you.

Once again I ask, what makes Doug Hoffman an "extreme radical neo"?

The real difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the liberal does not have the thrist for power.

LMAO at that one. If you believe that, you're even dumber than I thought. But hey, getting fooled by people is something that tends to happen to you alot.

solo1

11-03-2009, 08:53 AM

How is it that a Neo-Con or full blown Conservative is considered a radical but that moniker is never applied to liberals? the conservative is for small, non intrusive government, low taxes how is that radical?

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 10:49 AM

HA! Sarah Palin recorded a message for the voters in Virginia to vote for good ole family values...:D

That lady kills me! I love her idea of family values. Having your daughters running wild with no controls whatsoever. This kids that was was f'ing the oldest daughter is a trip! I can't wait to hear what he has to say about Sarah. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he didn't knock off a piece of that himself.:eek:

Drake

11-03-2009, 10:56 AM

Who wouldn't hit Palin? Honestly.

1bad65

11-03-2009, 11:14 AM

Hey BD, instead of launching yet another round of attacks on the Palin's daughter, could you please answer the pertinent, on topic questions asked of you?

1bad65

11-03-2009, 11:17 AM

Unemployment should go up today. It appears Creigh Deeds will lose his job, and that John Corzine may be getting a pink slip as well. ;) Hey, the good news for them is that Obama recently extended unemployment benefits!

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 11:25 AM

I'm a liberal! I dodge questions I don't like! Didn't you know that?:D

I think concerns about that family are warrented. You can't preach family values for others. You gotta live them.

Buy hey, I'll party with the Palin girls!:p I'm sure they they have some interesting takes on "Family Values".

Drake

11-03-2009, 11:26 AM

If you think a year is enough to fix the economy, you are wrong. Even Fmr Pres. Clinton rode on the coattails of Reagan's decisions.

1bad65

11-03-2009, 11:54 AM

I'm a liberal! I dodge questions I don't like! Didn't you know that?:D

At least you admit it.

And you know yyou are wrong, or you would address the questions. It's simple.

I think concerns about that family are warrented. You can't preach family values for others. You gotta live them.

Explain that. You do realize that Sarah Palin doesn't even hold any elected office, right? So who gives a **** about her daughter's sex life?

1bad65

11-03-2009, 11:57 AM

If you think a year is enough to fix the economy, you are wrong.

Reagan had the Carter mess mostly turned around within a year.

Inflation and interest rates were well below what they were when he took office within a year.

And fyi, it's friggin WORSE than when Obama took office. He promised us that if he got his 'Stimulus' bill passed that unemployment would not break 8%. It's well over that now, and 10% is a distinct possibility.

Drake

11-03-2009, 12:07 PM

Reagan had the Carter mess mostly turned around within a year.

Economically, that's impossible.

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 12:07 PM

And you know yyou are wrong, or you would address the questions. It's simple.

Yeah Right! Like I'm suppose to answer to someone like you? :D

Drake

11-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Yeah Right! Like I'm suppose to answer to someone like you? :D

And you wonder why your credibility is shot to hell. Honestly, I'm even having trouble believing you understand even the basics of political discourse, and instead I believe you are playing along in order to get a "rise" out of people. In other words, I don't think you even know what being a liberal means, and instead choose to be so because it makes for a fun day of posting for you. Likely the same reason you decided to ally yourself with a racist and a liar. You didn't understand anything about the man, but because he was so despised, you wanted to be contrary and support him. Epic FAIL.

1bad65

11-03-2009, 12:37 PM

Economically, that's impossible.

Then Reagan must be The Miracle Worker. ;)

Notice I said he had it "mostly" turned around. Many of the key economic indicators were alot better within a year of Reagan's leadership. This has not happened under Obama. It may (though I would bet against it), but it has not happened yet.

Keep in mind, it was so bad Carter himself had pretty much just given up. :eek: You have read/heard the 'Malaise Speech', right?

1bad65

11-03-2009, 12:44 PM

And you wonder why your credibility is shot to hell. Honestly, I'm even having trouble believing you understand even the basics of political discourse, and instead I believe you are playing along in order to get a "rise" out of people. In other words, I don't think you even know what being a liberal means, and instead choose to be so because it makes for a fun day of posting for you. Likely the same reason you decided to ally yourself with a racist and a liar. You didn't understand anything about the man, but because he was so despised, you wanted to be contrary and support him. Epic FAIL.

You may well have hit the nail on the head.

Look BD, at least two people asked you the same question. So using me as an excuse to duck it is not gonna fly. If you call someone a radical, and then you are asked why you consider him one, you have to answer IF you are truly interested in a debate. Now if you are trolling.....

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 05:04 PM

You may well have hit the nail on the head.

Look BD, at least two people asked you the same question. So using me as an excuse to duck it is not gonna fly. If you call someone a radical, and then you are asked why you consider him one, you have to answer IF you are truly interested in a debate. Now if you are trolling.....

Not going to fly?:D Why should I care what flies or doesn't fly with you or your brain washed buddy?

No one here name calls and shows as much disrespect as you two. Why should anyone answer your questions. Every single issue and almost every single post you two bring up is tied into Ward Churchill...all of them. Why should I show respect to anyone who disrespects a man I admire? Talk about trolling.

1bad65

11-03-2009, 05:43 PM

You're back on ignore til you answer the simple question... Why do you consider Hoffman a radical?

Look, you were doing better. Then YOU went off on Palin's family AGAIN. Repeatedly. Then you called Hoffman a radical, and refuse to engage in debate as to why you consider him one. Look, I've called Obama a socialist. And when asked why, I answered. That's how debate works. It's not one guy calling names over and over. I could find a 2nd grader to discuss politics with if that's what I wanted. You are capable of rational debate, AT TIMES. But when you can't rationally defend your assertions or positions, it's always the same answer from you: 'Well the Palin family is a mess. They have a knocked up kid.'

As to us bringing up your lying buddy, I only do that when you start acting irrational. I know I use it as an example of you being irrational in the past to show others reading the debate your past history of being irrational when it comes to defending your ideals. Stop being irrational and I'll quit bringing it up.

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 06:17 PM

As to us bringing up your lying buddy, I only do that when you start acting irrational. I know I use it as an example of you being irrational in the past to show others reading the debate your past history of being irrational when it comes to defending your ideals. Stop being irrational and I'll quit bringing it up.

Think about what you just said. "If I post the way you want me to post then you will stop trolling"......:D

I invite you to keep on referencing Ward after every one of my post like you have been doing. That's fine with me. Even if he has nothing to do with most of the issues

Also, I haven't seen anything today about the misspelled word. That has nothing to do with any of these issues either although you've used in almost every post for the past week.

And you people say you're only interested in the issues.....:D

1bad65

11-03-2009, 07:25 PM

It's a rout in Virginia!

And Rove is hinting heavily at a clean sweep in the 3 big races: Virginia, New Jersey, and that NY Congressional seat.

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 08:47 PM

The gay marriage thing is Maine seems to be going well in early returns. No matter what they say a state wide win on gay marriage would be huge for the cause. Also, how ironic it is that the party that claims to be for less government intervention into people's lives is the same one that is fighting tooth and nail for the governement to have a say into who and who cannot get married.

Also, Hoffman is losing. As a liberal this is not good news at all. I'd rather a strong neo victory here to cement Sarah Palin's leadership position and pull the party to the extreme right. However it looks like instead of that we might just be getting another blue dog.

Drake

11-03-2009, 09:01 PM

BD, due to his inability to defend himself, validate his points, and revert to "NEO NEO!" whenever someone disagrees with him, has earned him yet another ignore. Now, pipe down, kid, and let the grownups continue their conversation.

1Bad, when dealing with economic recovery, the President is actually fairly powerless to do much about it without strong congressional support, which, IIRC, he did not have. For these exact same reasons, we are not coming out of the recession due to anything Pres. Obama is doing. It is a perfectly natural cycle, and most economics courses cover it as fact.

My only complaint with conservatives, when dealing with the economy, is how they are not willing to rein in corrupt business practices and wrangle out-of-control mortgage exploitation. In a way, their philosophy of "hands-off" business management allowed the crisis to occur.

On the flip side of this, government control is not advised either. We have our own retail store in the military, and they demonstrate firsthand what regulated commerce looks like, and it is UG-LY. I don't think bailouts or appointing CEOs is a good idea, because you will only make a bad situation worse. I've always thought of businesses as things that may have a lifecycle, and once they become unprofitable, they die and are replaced by a smarter business.

So, I'd say the self-destruction of the mortgage industry cleaned out a lot of unscrupulous individuals, while I have no doubt corruption continues to run rampant in other areas.

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 10:25 PM

Well it looks like they sent Palin's hand picked candidate packing in up state NY.....Dam! Had I'd been there I would have voted for him myself.

The gay marriage is close in Maine but looks like it might go down. Of course Washington state has one too so let's see what happens.

On a side note: Thank God for Colorado! Breckenridge made marijuana legal tonight in a landslide! 72%!!!!!!! Hell yeah!!!!!!

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 10:38 PM

So funny!:D I just heard that Hoffman guy speak. He pledged that he would "help" Bill Owens rebuild the economy..........:D:D:D

I don't really think that Owens wiil want the help of a man who called Glen Beck a "Mentor".

Drake

11-03-2009, 10:39 PM

This message is hidden because BoulderDawg is on your ignore list.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

BoulderDawg

11-03-2009, 10:47 PM

Another great quote by limby(speaking about Dierdre Scozzafava who was kicked to the curb by the neos in NY):

We can say she is guilty of widespread bestiality. She has screwed every RINO in the country.

That's cool! There is one thing for dam sure. No one...especially no female, is never going to accuse LImby of screwing anything!:D

She's got ya beat there dude!

1bad65

11-04-2009, 07:16 AM

BD, due to his inability to defend himself, validate his points, and revert to "NEO NEO!" whenever someone disagrees with him, has earned him yet another ignore. Now, pipe down, kid, and let the grownups continue their conversation.

Agreed. He is back on ignore til he answers the questions asked of him. But hey, you can't blame him for being sour, last night was a bad night to be a liberal. :D

1Bad, when dealing with economic recovery, the President is actually fairly powerless to do much about it without strong congressional support, which, IIRC, he did not have. For these exact same reasons, we are not coming out of the recession due to anything Pres. Obama is doing. It is a perfectly natural cycle, and most economics courses cover it as fact.

I disagree. Reagan got massive tax cuts passed quickly, and they had an immediate impact on the economy. Obama also immediately got his 'Stimulus' bill passed. It had an impact, just not what Keynesian followers predicted. Remember, conservatives predicted it would not work. We were right. While people can say that not enough time has passed, it really doesn't hold water when you see the unemployment numbers going up! Reagan didn't wave a magic wand and fix everything in a few months, but he got the numbers (interest rates, inflation) that were bad to improve in the mean time. Obama has failed to do this.

My only complaint with conservatives, when dealing with the economy, is how they are not willing to rein in corrupt business practices and wrangle out-of-control mortgage exploitation. In a way, their philosophy of "hands-off" business management allowed the crisis to occur.

You need to watch this video. It shows the Congressional Republicans in 2004 trying to reign in the out of control practices in the mortgage industry. They failed because the Democrats used every trick in the book, including crying racism, to avoid forcing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to just open their books. You will notice many of these Democrats who said nothing was wrong and that the mortgage industry was fine are still in office!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

So, I'd say the self-destruction of the mortgage industry cleaned out a lot of unscrupulous individuals, while I have no doubt corruption continues to run rampant in other areas.

But sadly the elected officials (Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, etc) who allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to hide their books while the bubble was getting ready to burst are still in office.

1bad65

11-04-2009, 07:26 AM

The Democrats lost a statewide election in friggin New Jersey badly. That is not a good sign. Even Juan Williams said that has to scare them, as New Jersey has been a safe state for them and is a part of the Democrat machine. And they lost, big.

The few races in 1993 trended Republican, but not as bad as last night. And 1994 was a slaughter for the liberals. Tom Foley, the sitting Speaker of the House, didn't even keep his Congressional seat! A sitting Speaker had not lost his seat since 1862! You could see the guys like Carville last night were terrified about 2010.

Obama carried Virginia last year with 52.6% of the vote. Last night the Republican candidate got 50% of the vote, the Democrat got 41%. That is an enormous 1-year swing.

BoulderDawg

11-04-2009, 09:46 AM

you can't blame him for being sour, last night was a bad night to be a liberal. :D

Every night is a good night to be liberal. As far as elections go, we might care if a liberal actually ran and had a chance to win.:D

The gay marriage vote was disappointing but it just goes to show you should not be able to vote on people's civil rights. If this was true blacks in the deep south would still be riding in the back of the bus.

As I mentioned neos are all for less government...so on and so forth. However when it comes to something they don't in then that's totally different.

My personal opinion: Marriage is a religious idea. The Constitution requires separation of church and state. The government should not sanction any form of marriage. If you want to get married you can do that in your own church. As far as taxes, insurance, inheritance, whatever, you should be able to enter into a legal contract with anybody, Lover, roommate, brother, sister, business partner...anybody.

BoulderDawg

11-04-2009, 09:56 AM

The gay marriage vote was disappointing but it just goes to show you should not be able to vote on people's civil rights. If this was true blacks in the deep south would still be riding in the back of the bus.

Don't believe that? Read this:

http://www.wreg.com/wreg-ole-miss-chance,0,7729439.story

"glory, glory segregation, the south will rise again."

They are absolutely going nuts in Mississippi over this. The students and alumni have threatened to sing the lyrics even if the band does not play the song.

Not surprising however since there nickname is the "Rebels" and their mascot is an old plantation slave owner.

1bad65

11-06-2009, 08:15 AM

Looks like the unempolyment rate just broke 10%

Remember, Obama promised that it would not break 8% if we did the 'Stimulus'. Just wait til 2010! You think the voters were mad on Tuesday, just imagine that plus millions more out of work and upset about the false promises of 'Hope' and 'Change'.

Things sure are 'Changing' though, more and more people are not working. Gee, who predicted these policies would fail......;)

BoulderDawg

11-06-2009, 10:01 AM

Check this out:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The nation's unemployment rate rose above 10% for the first time since 1983 in October, a much worse jump than expected as employers continued to trim jobs from payrolls.

The reading, reported by the government Friday, is a sign of the continued weakness in the labor market even though the economy grew in the third quarter following the longest and deepest downturn since the Great Depression.

The government reported that the unemployment rate spiked to 10.2%, up from 9.8% in September. It is the highest that this rate has been since April 1983. Economists had forecast an increase to 9.9%.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that 2 and a half years into the Reagan admin? It seems I read somewhere in these pages that Reagan had turned the economy around within a year after taken office.....hmmmm...Boulderdawg stratches head!:D

Truth is most Americans, no matter what the politicains say, know that the economy is simply not going to turn around on a dime in the matter of a few months....at least I hope they are not that dumb.

In any case, Bush left us in such bad shape that there are no magic economy pills out there. The great depression took over a decade. Let us all hope it doesn't take that long to correct Bush's mess.

BoulderDawg

11-11-2009, 03:18 PM

You know I look at this Michelle Bachmann and wonder just how she gets elected to her seat in congress. Left or right this lady is crazy!:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJGNICvi6gA

I've known a lot of women like this. She's not that bad looking and all her life she's been able to manipulate men to do pretty much want she wants. Now that she's in congress and given the fact that she's getting older that's a lot harder to do.

I'll really be surprised if she get re-elected next year...but hell I'll donate to her campaign. Everytime this lady open her mouth more people are leaving the Neo teabagger party!:p

BoulderDawg

11-25-2009, 11:09 AM

1bad65

11-25-2009, 11:39 AM

Love the comments from Limby and Beck about Mary Landrieu being a prostitute.

What better way for the neo teabagger to show their hate and contempt towards than to call a respected women they disagree with a Ho.

Rush called Ben Nelson one too. If you are gonna quote someone, don't remove half of their words so it fits your perceptions of the world.

BoulderDawg

11-27-2009, 10:45 AM

Rush called Ben Nelson one too. If you are gonna quote someone, don't remove half of their words so it fits your perceptions of the world.

Does that change the fact that he called a female member of congress a prostitute?

I'll be honest, if it was my old lady I would be wanting a word with Mr. Limby.

dimethylsea

11-28-2009, 03:15 PM

1bad65

11-29-2009, 09:04 AM

I smoke weed quite often. So, there goes your stupid theory.

As to being prudes, look no further than Democratic Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee. She is your classic "Limousine Liberal". She has actually been barred from airlines for her queen-bee attitude.

And you cna't tell me Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi aren't prudes. Get real. I'll admit the GOP had some very uptight people in it, but by no means do they have the market cornered on it.

1bad65

11-29-2009, 09:06 AM

How can you say the GOP hates drugs in one post, then watch BD point out Rush Limbaugh had a drug problem in about everyone of his posts. :rolleyes:

Drake

11-29-2009, 09:49 AM

All this back and forth misses the point.

Conservatives ARE prudes. They tend towards ****phobia (Defense Of Marriage Act), are pro-institutionalized violence (i.e. military-industrial complex/"victory disease"), and tend to believe people should be sober, drunk, or under a doctor's care (i.e. they don't like soft drugs).

There is no more reason needed for sensible hedonists to dislike the GOP and the conservatives. They hate kinky sex, they hate drugs, and they like formations.

All this talk of other issues is really uneccessary. If you like a good party, strange tail, being your own person and not following orders.. then turn LEFT.

If you hate gays, think other people smoking pot is evil, and think standing at attention in matching monkey-suits is groovy.. turn RIGHT.

We don't need to argue about whose correct. Arguing presumes the other side can be convinced. This is not likely. You don't convince the GOP they are wrong. Just marginalize them and convert their kids. Let them die in their own good time.

Actually, from what I've seen of conservatives, they indulge in kinky and ****sexual activities, drink heavily, drugs are prevalent, and in general, conduct themselves privately exactly the opposite of the values they profess.

Remember that one senator trying to solicit gay sex from a bathroom stall? Rush Limbaugh's notorious addictions? Fmr Pres Bush having done coke?

That's one thing I have always hated about conservatives. Such hypocrites. You don't want gay marriage why? Because it'll lower your chances of scoring in a bathroom stall?

BoulderDawg

11-29-2009, 10:40 AM

Yeah bud! The neo teabaggers just love drugs. How many people spent years in jail during the Nixon admin for just having a joint?

And then there was Reagan and his "Just say no"........:D with all of this scheduling of drugs. Putting a generally safe drug such as MDMA on the same schedule as Heroin and cocaine....:p

Then there is the bible thumping housewife who worships god, votes conservatives and takes 2-3 prescribed valium a day while telling her kids about how marijuana causes brain damage!:eek:

BoulderDawg

11-29-2009, 10:43 AM

And you cna't tell me Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi aren't prudes.

Which is it? "Hillary Clinton is a prude" or "Hillary Clinton is a raging lesbian"

You've said both.

dimethylsea

11-29-2009, 10:36 PM

Drake,

Admit it.. if I had said "If you are kinky and honest.. turn LEFT. If you are kinky and dishonest.. turn RIGHT!" I would be hoisted on the prejudicial petard faster than crack smoke down a ho's windpipe.

Lots of conservatives do things like that.. but they claim otherwise. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt when I take them at face value.

dimethylsea

11-29-2009, 10:38 PM

I smoke weed quite often. So, there goes your stupid theory.
.

GOP. Drug War. Oh yeah..... forgot about that didn't ya Einstein.

Do you practice the Crippled Mind Fist?

BoulderDawg

11-29-2009, 11:02 PM

Well, to be honest, all of us have sexual fantasies that if we dared acted on would probably be frowned upon by society and, in some cases, get us thrown in jail.:D

I think the difference is that most liberals are tolerate of almost any sexual preversion as long as no one gets hurt. Neos, on the other hand, are quick to publically condemn any behavior then go home and do unspeakable things to their little girl's Barbie doll.:eek:

dimethylsea

11-30-2009, 12:44 AM

I think the difference is that most liberals are tolerate of almost any sexual preversion as long as no one gets hurt. Neos, on the other hand, are quick to publically condemn any behavior then go home and do unspeakable things to their little girl's Barbie doll.:eek:

Let's not forget trying to ban abortion AND contraception.

1bad65

11-30-2009, 08:02 AM

I don't see the Democrats as the Party that is calling for the legalization of drugs. As a matter of fact, the only major Presidential candidate in the 2008 primaries who called for legalizing drugs was Ron Paul. Ron Paul was the most conservative Republican in the race.

However, if you go Party's stances on the issue, the Libertarian Party is the largest Party calling for the legalization of drugs.

1bad65

11-30-2009, 08:03 AM

Let's not forget trying to ban abortion AND contraception.

Can you show me where Republicans have called for banning contraception?

dimethylsea

11-30-2009, 08:13 AM

Can you show me where Republicans have called for banning contraception?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509488,00.html

""You can't resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon. "On the contrary, it increases the problem."

Focus on the Family and the rest of the Right tries to defund Planned Parenthood, and remove sex education that doesn't focus on abstinence etc.

The pattern is pretty clear.

BoulderDawg

12-28-2009, 12:05 PM

Those wild and crazy teabaggers!:D

They are so desparate now they are trying to recruit sitting democrats in congress to switch to the GOP. Last week it was reported that John McCain had called Congressman Chris Carney and tried to get him to switch parties.

The truth about that story is a little different. When that was being reported in the media Chris had not yet received a call from McCain. Fact is McCain's office had leaked that story as part of some sort scheme to pressure and embrass Chris Carney.

Not surprising!:rolleyes:

BoulderDawg

12-30-2009, 10:16 PM

Just read where Limby had a heart attack. Not surprising considering all the drugs he takes and the way his weight goes up and down.

Can't wait to see how the right somehow blames liberals for this!:D I guess they'll say someone poisoned him or something.

In any case what a relief to be rich and know you don't have to worry about your health care.

If he dies I guess the teabaggers will be sent into a tailspin without their leader.

1bad65

12-31-2009, 08:17 AM

In any case what a relief to be rich and know you don't have to worry about your health care.

At least he didn't have to wait to see a specialist like people in countries with socialized medicine do.

Weren't you just crying about how you claimed some Republican was praying for liberals to die? Why the sudden gloating over a conservative facing a possible fatal medical condition? :rolleyes:

solo1

12-31-2009, 09:09 AM

BoulderDawg

12-31-2009, 10:04 AM

I'm not going to pray for anyone to die. That's not my thing.

However I'm also not going to express false concern over the health of a man who has spent the last 30 years making vile personal attacks on people because of their politics. They are too many decent people with health problems to be concerned with a man who hates.

No Liberal will celebrate his death however no tears will be shed when he does go.

BoulderDawg

12-31-2009, 10:06 AM

Keep trashing the Tea Party movement it only inspires more of them to get busy doing what has to be done to remove the status quo losers in Congress and get this gibbering idiot out of the White House. Democrats dismiss the movement at thier peril.

You haven't been reading my posts. I fully support Sarah Palin in her bid to win the GOP nomination in 2012. I can't think of anyone I'd rather see go up against Obama!

1bad65

12-31-2009, 11:38 AM

Keep trashing the Tea Party movement it only inspires more of them to get busy doing what has to be done to remove the status quo losers in Congress and get this gibbering idiot out of the White House. Democrats dismiss the movement at thier peril.

Exactly. Just this year a billionaire Democrat Governor was ousted in dark blue New Jersey. 2010 is gonna be a landslide.

1bad65

12-31-2009, 11:42 AM

However I'm also not going to express false concern over the health of a man who has spent the last 30 years making vile personal attacks on people because of their politics.

Like the ones you've repeatedly made on Sarah Palin's daughter?

BoulderDawg

01-09-2010, 02:14 PM

:D:D:D:DWill those wild and crazy teabaggers ever stop:

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/104685/Conservatives_vs_Avatar

Now if you go see Avatar you are a hom0 commie American hatin mofo!:p:p:p

I have not seen Avater. That must mean I LOVE America!:eek:

BoulderDawg

01-12-2010, 02:44 PM

Now the Vatican hates Avatar.....

Dam! This movie is becoming a "must see" with each passing day!:D

kfson

01-12-2010, 02:58 PM

I think everyone should be taxed 99%.
The government can then tell us how to live, what to buy, when to drop a load, what food to eat and when, blah, blah, blah.

BoulderDawg

01-18-2010, 06:58 PM

Just watching Keith Olberman talk about this Mass Senate race. Apparently the GOP guy has it wrapped up.......Cool!:D Maybe if everyone doesn't have to worry about getting to 60 votes then they could actually support and vote for what they believe in.

As I mentioned before I would dearly love to see them kick Leiberman to the curb! I don't see much difference between 59 and 58!

1bad65

01-19-2010, 07:31 AM

Maybe if everyone doesn't have to worry about getting to 60 votes then they could actually support and vote for what they believe in.

Obviously you again are talking out your ***. Scott Brown is running on a platform of cutting taxes, cutting Federal spending, and anti-socialized medicine. And today we will find out if the people of Massachusetts will elect a man with those principles.

BoulderDawg

01-19-2010, 01:03 PM

That's all and well with me if Mass votes that way. In fact that's what I like about being a liberal.....Being a liberal is NOT a popularity contest. We maintain our philosophy and don't shift it to what the current polls show.

In any case this race is now shaping up as a must win for the GOP. Especailly since they are now bragging they are going to take it. Remember the last time the Teabaggers bragged how their candidate was going to win in that congressional race? This would make two loses in a row!

Anyway just as an observer I find it interesting that on the GOP side you have a slick polished politician who kisses baby with the best of them. On the Dems side you have a non politician lawyer who hates campaigning......of course the politicain has the edge here.

In any case if the Dems lose I'm hoping Reid will have the balls enough to put some of those blue dogs in their place...starting with Leiberman.

1bad65

01-19-2010, 01:59 PM

That's all and well with me if Mass votes that way. In fact that's what I like about being a liberal.....Being a liberal is NOT a popularity contest. We maintain our philosophy and don't shift it to what the current polls show.

Then why did Obama have to lie through his teeth to get elected?

In any case this race is now shaping up as a must win for the GOP. Especailly since they are now bragging they are going to take it. Remember the last time the Teabaggers bragged how their candidate was going to win in that congressional race? This would make two loses in a row!

Actually we won 2 Governors races that night, both in states Obama carried less than a year before.

Anyway just as an observer I find it interesting that on the GOP side you have a slick polished politician who kisses baby with the best of them. On the Dems side you have a non politician lawyer who hates campaigning......of course the politicain has the edge here.

In any case if the Dems lose I'm hoping Reid will have the balls enough to put some of those blue dogs in their place...starting with Leiberman.

The Democrat is also a career politician. FYI, she is the sitting Attorney General up there. So don't blame this loss on losing the 'Image Game' again. :rolleyes:

I hope Reid and Pelosi do continue to try and govern against the will of the people. If the Democrats lose this race in a DARK, DARK Blue State, you know November is gonna be a bloodbath. If they can't win in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, where can they win? :D

BoulderDawg

01-19-2010, 02:17 PM

Who ever said that Obama was a liberal?

As far as the midterms go: Of course the GOP will gain seats, the party out of power always does so in a 1st term prez midterm. Also you have the fact that Obama will not be on the ballot. People simply won't go to the polls.

As much as the teabaggers value power I say just let them have it all. Anybody who calls themselves liberal knows you can't get any real change in Washington anyway.

As far as taxes goes: Bush cut them to the bone yet this guy is suppose to be running on cutting taxes? Why not just campaign on doing away with taxes?

1bad65

01-19-2010, 02:47 PM

Who ever said that Obama was a liberal?

Anyone not living on the same planet you do. The guy is easily the most liberal President in my lifetime, and likely the most liberal in our history.

Also you have the fact that Obama will not be on the ballot. People simply won't go to the polls.

Voter turnout is looking to be over 50% in Mass today. That's a record for a special election. So that excuse is blown away. Try another one.

Massachusetts voter turnout today may be higher than when Obama was on the ballot.

As much as the teabaggers value power I say just let them have it all. Anybody who calls themselves liberal knows you can't get any real change in Washington anyway.

Then why did Obama promise 'Change' if he knew he couldn't deliver it?

As far as taxes goes: Bush cut them to the bone yet this guy is suppose to be running on cutting taxes? Why not just campaign on doing away with taxes?

Bush did not cut them to the bone. He didn't even cut them back to pre-Clinton levels. And fyi, several people have run for office saying they want to abolish the income tax. Those guys always get my vote.

Of course bums like you who don't work don't have to worry about income tax rates. After today's election, you will likely see that the vast majority of Americans are not bums like you, and do care about their tax rates.

Man, a Republican sitting in Ted Kennedy's Senate seat. I never thought I'd see that day. 'Change' is definately in the air. :D

1bad65

01-20-2010, 08:01 AM

Looks like another huge night for the Tea Party guys! :D

Scott Brown beat his Democrat opponent for Ted 'The Swimmer' Kennedy's Senate seat. In Massachusetts, where Obama won by 26 points just over a year ago. Voter turnout was the highest in an off-year election since 1990.

This makes the GOP 3-0 in statewide elections since Obama won the Presidency. And all 3 of those states (Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts) Obama carried in the last election.

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 10:26 AM

Score another victory for the gun toting white Christian soldiers!:D May they eventually win them all!

Anyway Chris Matthews brough up a good point last night about the midterm elections in 1966. Very similar situation. The liberals had just past civil right legislation.......and they dearly paid for it. I think Matthews said they lost over 40 seats that year. Of course look where it lead us...the assinations of MLK and Bobby Kennedy, The Chicago Pig riots, more war in Vietnam....maybe it's time we hit the streets again.

Let's not even mention Nixon and his power trip. This country is primed and ready for a new Nixon if we go in the same direction we did in the mid 60s.

1bad65

01-20-2010, 11:41 AM

Score another victory for the gun toting white Christian soldiers!:D May they eventually win them all!

Because the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts is just chock full of Bible-thumping, gun toting rednecks. Face it, you guys got your asses kicked in your own back yard.

FYI, Scott Brown actually carried Barney Frank's district.

Let's not even mention Nixon and his power trip. This country is primed and ready for a new Nixon if we go in the same direction we did in the mid 60s.

This country is primed and ready for another Reagan if we keep going in the same direction we did in the late 70s.

Drake

01-20-2010, 11:42 AM

There must have been a lot of those evil republicans in Mass this week, then. The democrat party failed, their candidate DEFINITELY failed, and they fully deserve the fallout they receive from this.

Problem with BD's logic is, when his party doesn't win, then somehow it was an outrage of justice. Well, we live in a democratic society, where everyone has a vote. The people spoke, and their votes caused a change. Maybe you'd be better off in a country where instead of voting, we just have politicans decide who should win.

I've served under both Rep and Dem presidents, and I support them all. Not because I support their party, but because they were chosen by the people.

1bad65

01-20-2010, 11:42 AM

"This one's for you, Mary Jo."

Drake

01-20-2010, 11:45 AM

I don't care about shock jocks, thanks.

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:04 PM

I don't care about shock jocks, thanks.

A shock jock is better than a piece of garbage who leaves a woman to die a slow death so he can try and get away with driving drunk and save his political career.

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 12:09 PM

Truth is we're headed for another 1968. I'd say Obama will be extremely lucky to live to serve a 2nd term.

Look for a Nixon like candidate to come out of nowhere and run against Biden in 2012. I'm still not convinced it won't be Cheney.

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 12:10 PM

A shock jock is better than a piece of garbage who leaves a woman to die a slow death so he can try and get away with driving drunk and save his political career.

Your hatred is duly noted. Liberals are focused on the here and now.

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:14 PM

Your hatred is duly noted. Liberals are focused on the here and now.

I hate drunk drivers who kill innocent people. I admit it. Do you condone that type of behavior?

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:15 PM

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 12:25 PM

FYI, Scott Brown actually carried Barney Frank's district.

Then washed his hands very thoroughly afterwards.

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 12:27 PM

Truth is we're headed for another 1968.

And wouldn't that just thrill wannabe hippies like you? Let it go kid, gotta grow up sometime.

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 12:27 PM

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 12:31 PM

I hate ....I admit it.

No doubt. :rolleyes:

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:38 PM

No doubt. :rolleyes:

You never answered my question; do you condone drunk drivers killing innocent people?

And you're the racist. So we know you hate, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, "darkies".

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:39 PM

Then washed his hands very thoroughly afterwards.

I hope so. After all, Frank was the one who had a male prostitution ring being ran out of his own house.

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 12:41 PM

I hope so. After all, Frank was the one who had a male prostitution ring being ran out of his own house.

Everyone knows why he got so excited about promoting something called 'freddy' and 'fanny'

uki

01-20-2010, 12:44 PM

Not because I support their party, but because they were chosen by the people.now we just have to clarify which "people" one is talking about.

1bad65

01-20-2010, 12:46 PM

Everyone knows why he got so excited about promoting something called 'freddy' and 'fanny'

LMAO!

I loved how Frank said he had no idea it was going on. I guess having male prostitutes running around his house was nothing out of the ordinary for him.

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 12:46 PM

now we just have to clarify which "people" one is talking about.

I will tell ya it's none of the "people" I hang with!:p

BoulderDawg

01-20-2010, 12:48 PM

I guess it's F aggot joke time!:rolleyes:

Drake

01-20-2010, 12:53 PM

now we just have to clarify which "people" one is talking about.

Registered voters.

uki

01-20-2010, 12:54 PM

registered voters.lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

Drake

01-20-2010, 01:02 PM

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me guess...another conspiracy theory?

uki

01-20-2010, 01:07 PM

Let me guess...another conspiracy theory?hey you said it... not me. :p

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 01:36 PM

I guess it's F aggot joke time!:rolleyes:

Don't blush from all the attention

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 01:38 PM

Registered voters.

Registered voters who bother to vote - the only adult citizens that really matter.

Kansuke

01-20-2010, 01:38 PM

hey you said it... not me. :p

D-bag :mad:

BoulderDawg

01-31-2010, 12:28 AM

Just heard the story of a bunch of Bible thumping Conservative Americans who thought they could steal a bus load of kids from Haiti. Why not? Who better to take care of a group of Haiti kids than a group of lilly white Christian teabaggers?

With luck this group will get a good long stay at a Haitian jail. Then htey can discuss God with the other inmates...as soon as they learn French that is!:D Mon Dieu!!!!!

1bad65

01-31-2010, 03:46 AM

Just heard the story of a bunch of Bible thumping Conservative Americans who thought they could steal a bus load of kids from Haiti.

I'd rather hang out with a Bible thumper than a wife thumper.

BoulderDawg

01-31-2010, 09:56 AM

I'd rather hang out with a Bible thumper than a wife thumper.

What does that have to do with child stealing in Haiti?

BoulderDawg

01-31-2010, 10:08 AM

The important thing to note in the Haiti child stealing attempt is just the complete arrogance of the Americans:

"Why should we leave these children here with a bunch of voodoo worshippin' Ns who can't even speak english...They should grow up in a god fearing white home"

I'm trying to think what would happen at the US border if a group of Mexicans tried to get across with a bus load of American kids.....They would be put under the jail.:rolleyes:

1bad65

01-31-2010, 10:18 AM

Can you post a link to the story on this alleged kidnapping incident you are speaking about?

dimethylsea

01-31-2010, 12:44 PM

Drake

01-31-2010, 01:27 PM

Boulder,

At the risk of undermining an ideological ally on the board.. this seems to have been a relatively innocent mistake.

It's a bloody disaster zone down there. Trying to get things done "through channels" with paperwork is practically impossible. Difficult at best in "normal" times, but right now?

You should always stand for what you believe in, regardless of political "alliances". If you make decisions and allow yourself to be swayed in order to more fit in with what the "reps, dems, and indies" are doing, it makes you a puppet.

I hate political parties, and I REALLY hate political aliances. Sure, maybe compromise is necessary to retain power, but I still don't have to disagree with it.

As for Haiti, you try managing massive emergency relief flights with a busted air control tower. See how that works out.

BoulderDawg

01-31-2010, 06:13 PM

Boulder,

At the risk of undermining an ideological ally on the board.. this seems to have been a relatively innocent mistake.

It's a bloody disaster zone down there. Trying to get things done "through channels" with paperwork is practically impossible. Difficult at best in "normal" times, but right now?

The truth is these people were taking children out of their home country....it doesn't matter to me if was legalized with papers or not. In this case it appears the govt was real concerned about orphans and how they were being handled. I read there were a lot of child selling going on down there.

In any case, moving a child out of his/her home country should be a last resort. These children should remain in Haiti and hopefully be placed with a family there. The absolute arrorgance of this group is what really bristles me. One child mentioned that her parents were still alive and she was told they were going on a short trip.

Haiti has been hit hard however, at the moment, people are being fed and shelter is being provided. I see no reason to try take a bus load of children out of the country.

kfson

01-31-2010, 07:56 PM

Conservatives want to keep the money they earn.

Liberals want to spend everyone else's money.

1bad65

01-31-2010, 11:05 PM

Boulder,

At the risk of undermining an ideological ally on the board.. this seems to have been a relatively innocent mistake.

Even though you guys lean the same way politically, you are likely fixing to see why he is considered a nut job on this forum. Notice he won't post a link. :rolleyes:

The truth is these people were taking children out of their home country....it doesn't matter to me if was legalized with papers or not.

So even if it's done on the up and up through the legal system, they should be forced to stay in a third-world country? Are you nuts?

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 09:45 AM

Even though you guys lean the same way politically, you are likely fixing to see why he is considered a nut job on this forum.

I'm in good company:

Obama "Crazy Nut", "Arrogant Punk"
Ward Churchill "Radical Nut" "Crazy"
Chomsky "Intellectual Nut" "Confused old man"
Olbermann "Media Nut" "Maybe dangerous"

:p

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 09:53 AM

Government approval is needed for any Haitian children to leave the country, and the group acknowledged that the children have no passports.

Looks like it's a lot more than a mix up in paperwork.

These kids were crying for their parents who are still alive somewhere in Haiti. When they caught these crusaders for God they discovered that the children in the bus were begging for food and one had to be hospitalized because of dehydration.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 09:56 AM

1bad65

02-01-2010, 10:11 AM

Ward Churchill "Radical Nut" "Crazy"

Ward Churchill "Admitted Wife Beater" "Plaigiarist" "Liar" "Exploiter of Native Americans" "Phony Veteran" "Academic Fraud"

Fixed that for ya.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Also I read where the Gov of Florida said they had taken in 300 Haitian "Orphans" since the earthquake......really?

These children need to be returned to Haiti and reunited with their families if possible.

Apparently you don't know what the word "Orphan" means.

Still waiting on that link....

Drake

02-01-2010, 10:20 AM

I can deal with radicals. I can even deal with crazy. But he's neither. He's completely aware of his plagiarism, exploitation, and threatening behaviors. It's a cold, calculating mind at the helm, much like John Edwards in a sense.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 10:35 AM

I can deal with radicals. I can even deal with crazy.

Dealing with radicals..............I just bet you can. I have no doubt you would split my head open with a baseball bat if you were given half a chance.:D

Crazy? I've seen crazy.......you simply could not handle it.

Probably you think someone like John Edwards is crazy:D........not even close!

Drake

02-01-2010, 10:43 AM

Dealing with radicals..............I just bet you can. I have no doubt you would split my head open with a baseball bat if you were given half a chance.:D

Crazy? I've seen crazy.......you simply could not handle it.

Probably you think someone like John Edwards is crazy:D........not even close!

You are confused. I don't want to kill you. I want you to kill yourself. Very distinct difference, there.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 10:53 AM

You are confused. I don't want to kill you. I want you to kill yourself. Very distinct difference, there.

Oh, I think if you knew you could get away with it you would have no problem.

In any case, you're avocating and wishing for the death of another poster on this board.

I'm just kinda wondering how Gene might feel about that. To me it's just amazing some one would come on here and post something like that.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 11:10 AM

Apparently you don't know what the word "Orphan" means.

Talk to the so-called charities about the use of the word. On that bus they claimed they had 33 "Orphans" yet there were children saying their parents were still alive and that they wanted to be carried home.

I say let's take a good close look at those 300 "Orphans" in Florida.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 11:21 AM

I have no doubt you would split my head open with a baseball bat if you were given half a chance.:D

Sounds like something Ward Churchill's ex-wives would say.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 11:22 AM

I'm just kinda wondering how Gene might feel about that. To me it's just amazing some one would come on here and post something like that.

So says the guy who repeatedly posts racial slurs.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 11:43 AM

So says the guy who repeatedly posts racial slurs.

A racial slur is a word used to attack and denigrate another race. I invite anyone to look at my posts show me where I have done that.

Bad let me ask you a question: Do you support and agree with the comments by Drake? Do you believe that I should simply go somewhere and kill myself?

Drake

02-01-2010, 11:59 AM

I'm just kinda wondering how Gene might feel about that. To me it's just amazing some one would come on here and post something like that.

He shouldn't care. It's not a threat towards you, and there is zero possibility of me harming you in any way. I don't want to harm a single hair on your head. It's just a fond wish that I expressed. If anything, you'd be threatening yourself, and therefore should be banned. :D

Drake

02-01-2010, 11:59 AM

A racial slur is a word used to attack and denigrate another race. I invite anyone to look at my posts show me where I have done that.

Bad let me ask you a question: Do you support and agree with the comments by Drake? Do you believe that I should simply go somewhere and kill myself?

You don't really have to go anywhere.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:02 PM

So what about Bad?

I think this guy has made his feelings crystal clear. Do you agree with that?

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:20 PM

He shouldn't care. It's not a threat towards you, and there is zero possibility of me harming you in any way. I don't want to harm a single hair on your head. It's just a fond wish that I expressed. If anything, you'd be threatening yourself, and therefore should be banned. :D

It's despicable and even unbalanced to wish death upon any human being based on their politcal views.

Gene shouldn't care? Maybe you should ask and get his opinion.

So far, no one on this board has backed that assine comment.

Drake

02-01-2010, 12:23 PM

It's despicable and even unbalanced to wish death upon any human being based on their politcal views.

Gene shouldn't care? Maybe you should ask and get his opinion.

So far, no one on this board has backed that assine comment.

Who said it was based on your political views? There's plenty of liberals here that I don't mind talking to.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 12:24 PM

So far, no one on this board has backed that assine comment.

I don't see people coming out of the woodwork to back the ridiculous, unsourced assertions you make constantly.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 12:25 PM

Who said it was based on your political views? There's plenty of liberals here that I don't mind talking to.

BD, were you putting words in his mouth? I thought only 'teabaggers' did that. ;)

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:25 PM

Who said it was based on your political views? There's plenty of liberals here that I don't mind talking to.

Then why do you hate enough to want to see me dead?

I've never attacked you personally and could care less about your politics.

1bad65

02-01-2010, 12:27 PM

I've never attacked you personally and could care less about your politics.

Well, you have called the military he serves in a bunch of rapists and war criminals who drive around in HumVees and get drunk.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:27 PM

I don't see people coming out of the woodwork to back the ridiculous, unsourced assertions you make constantly.

So bad I'm assuming that you agree with this insanity. I like to see ya say it.

Drake

02-01-2010, 12:28 PM

Then why do you hate enough to want to see me dead?

I've never attacked you personally and could care less about your politics.

Figure it out. :D

Also consider this. I've never said this about Uki or Hardwork, and I think both of them are off their rockers. But I'd NEVER want them to harm themselves.

Just you, BD... just you :D

Drake

02-01-2010, 12:29 PM

Well, you have called the military he serves in a bunch of rapists and war criminals who drive around in HumVees and get drunk.

And don't forget that he thinks I would also shoot a liberal or ****sexual in the back during combat.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:32 PM

Figure it out. :D

Also consider this. I've never said this about Uki or Hardwork, and I think both of them are off their rockers. But I'd NEVER want them to harm themselves.

Just you, BD... just you :D

Well at least you were honest enough to show all the posters here how deep your hatred goes.

However "Figure it out" is a copout. Why don't you explain your deep hatred.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 12:37 PM

Just heard an update of the Haiti kids. They have been moved to a facility. They are now getting food and shelter and the search for their parents and relatives have begun.......good luck to them all.

The crazy church ladies who started all this are in a Haiti hoose gow and screaming about inhuman treatment!:D

1bad65

02-01-2010, 01:25 PM

And don't forget that he thinks I would also shoot a liberal or ****sexual in the back during combat.

But in his eyes, you're the one who spews hatred. :rolleyes:

1bad65

02-01-2010, 01:27 PM

They have been moved to a facility. They are now getting food and shelter and the search for their parents and relatives have begun.......good luck to them all.

Hopefully if their parents are alive they aren't like Democrat John Edwards and they don't spend a few years denying the children are theirs.

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 02:11 PM

David Jamieson

02-01-2010, 02:37 PM

come on guys

it's time for a:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LCVZWFAEodk/RnrKuIBacTI/AAAAAAAAFMc/cZ5JKiRIDX8/s400/group-hug.jpg

:D

Drake

02-01-2010, 04:25 PM

Well at least you were honest enough to show all the posters here how deep your hatred goes.

However "Figure it out" is a copout. Why don't you explain your deep hatred.

The best part is, it's not even hate. :D

BoulderDawg

02-01-2010, 05:12 PM

So how about it bad?

Are you willing to go that extra mile? Just tell me, like your buddy here, that it would just make your day to see me die and that I should kill myself.

Personally I don't think you have the guts to make a committment one way or the other on that. N'est pas?

Yep!:D So much for a response on that........somewhere crickets are chirping!:p

Oh, sooner or later bad will respond but it will be the standard line he's known for....."Well what about (fill in name) who (said, did, whatever).":D Of course anything to divert from having to take a little responsibility, eh?

Drake

02-01-2010, 05:33 PM

Yep!:D So much for a response on that........somewhere crickets are chirping!:p

Oh, sooner or later bad will respond but it will be the standard line he's known for....."Well what about (fill in name) who (said, did, whatever).":D Of course anything to divert from having to take a little responsibility, eh?

Just be sure to mention to Gene that you are joking about this with smilies, and using it to bug 1Bad. Oh yeah, I'm sure you are heavily distraught over this. You are an expert at making yourself look the fool.

1bad65

02-02-2010, 08:13 AM

Oh, sooner or later Obama will respond but it will be the standard line he's known for....."Well what about Bush who got us into this mess.":D Of course anything to divert from having to take a little responsibility, eh?

Fixed that for ya. ;)

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 09:42 AM

Proves my point. When it comes down to it you simply don't have the guts to state your opinion.

I think it's real simple, all you have to do is back up and support your friend or say he was wrong. What are you afraid of?

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 09:51 AM

Just be sure to mention to Gene that you are joking about this with smilies, and using it to bug 1Bad. Oh yeah, I'm sure you are heavily distraught over this. You are an expert at making yourself look the fool.

I thought you said Gene wouldn't care. If he doesn't care then nothing anyone writes has any bearing. However, I might ask Gene before saying that he probably doesn't care.

In any case, There is nothing on this board that I take seriously or personal. This board is for entertainment only.

You won't find me wishing death on anyone here.

Drake

02-02-2010, 10:06 AM

I did say he wouldn't care. ok ok... here's a lesson... don't take my words, twist them into something they didn't mean, and then use it to attempt to contradict a previous statement, all without asking for clarification. It makes you look stupid.

kill yourself :D

1bad65

02-02-2010, 10:34 AM

I think it's real simple, all you have to do is back up and support your friend or say he was wrong. What are you afraid of?

Do you back this up and support your friend or do you say he was wrong?

"I broke and slammed [my wife] back against our bedroom wall, telling her that if she kept it up, she’d be apt to land in a hospital." -Ward Churchill

What are you afraid of? :D

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 10:45 AM

Do you back this up and support your friend or do you say he was wrong?

"I broke and slammed [my wife] back against our bedroom wall, telling her that if she kept it up, she’d be apt to land in a hospital." -Ward Churchill

What are you afraid of? :D

If you want start a thread about Ward then I'll come on there and give my opinion. That's up to you. I have no problem in doing that. However what I see here is the tried and true diversion tactics. "If you get into a situation that you are uncomfortable in then change the subject." You do it every time.

As I said, start a thread about Ward and I'll answer any questions you like however here lets stick to the questions already asked.

However I'm not goning to hold my breath that I get a straight answer!:D

1bad65

02-02-2010, 11:05 AM

LMAO at you. You are beyond nuts. And a HUGE hypocrite.

1bad65

02-02-2010, 11:07 AM

If you want start a thread about Ward then I'll come on there and give my opinion.

So this thread YOU started is called "Conservatives are Prudes". Please explain why now it's ok for you to ask questions in this thread about Drake supposedly telling you to suicide yourself, but it's not ok for me to ask questions about your wife-beating hero? ;)

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 11:09 AM

LMAO at you. You are beyond nuts. And a HUGE hypocrite.

Not at all. You start a thread about Ward Churchill and I'll express my honest opinion.

What's wrong with that? I know you'll never answer the question about support for your buddy.

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 11:12 AM

So this thread YOU started is called "Conservatives are Prudes". Please explain why now it's ok for you to ask questions in this thread about Drake supposedly telling you to suicide yourself, but it's not ok for me to ask questions about your wife-beating hero? ;)

As mentioned...start a thread. In the meantime just answer the question I ask. I've already agreed to answer any question about Ward. Or start the thread and I'll answer any questions....then you can answer mine.

I'm bending over backwards here.....what excuse will you come up with now.:D

1bad65

02-02-2010, 11:12 AM

It's ok if you don't comment.

We can all see you condone violence against women by making excuses for a piece of garbage who admitted assaulting a woman.

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 11:19 AM

So what do you have against starting up a "Ward Churchill" thread?

I've agreed to answer any questions about Ward.....you haven't agreed to answer my question.

1bad65

02-02-2010, 11:49 AM

So what do you have against starting up a "Ward Churchill" thread?

I've agreed to answer any questions about Ward.....you haven't agreed to answer my question.

Because it's a waste of time. The question has posed here, and quite honestly, before as well. If you don't want to answer it, fine. But if you won't answer questions, you may want to stop demanding others do so. It makes you look like a hypocrite.

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 12:05 PM

Because it's a waste of time. The question has posed here, and quite honestly, before as well. If you don't want to answer it, fine. But if you won't answer questions, you may want to stop demanding others do so. It makes you look like a hypocrite.

Not at all, not to much to ask that you create a thread on that. I'll answer all of your questions. I think I've bent over backwards here.

One thing I have noticed that you are yelling about answer your questions however you have never said anything about answering whether you support a death wish on the board....How about it? You never plan to give a "yes" or "no" answer do you?

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 01:00 PM

Truth finally being told here:

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The 33 infants and children that an American Christian group tried to smuggle out of quake-hit Haiti are being reunited with their families, the US-based aid group now caring for them said Tuesday.

The children were picked up last week by members of an Idaho-based Baptist group called New Life Children's Refuge who tried to take them across the border to the Dominican Republic where they planned to establish an orphanage.

But some of the children are not orphans at all.

"The parents now are coming to the village to reclaim their children," Heather Paul, the CEO of SOS Children's Villages USA, told NBC's "Today Show". "We already hear that many are saying that we have parents."

Police seized five men and five women with US passports, as well as two Haitians, as they tried late Friday to cross into the neighboring Dominican Republic with the children aged between two months and 14 years.

Paul said the children had been in poor condition when her group first received them but that they appeared to be on the mend.

"They came quite traumatized, as you can imagine, for a number of reasons. First, the devastation of the earthquake and then the mystery or confusion of their family's disappearance."

"They're getting better," she said.

One just wonder how many other good "Americans" succeeded in getting kids out of the country. How many parents out there think their children died in the quake?....horrible thing to do.

Drake

02-02-2010, 01:14 PM

Technically, it's not a death wish. I don't want you to get into a car wreck, plane crash, or buried alive. I was very specific in my desired outcome. :D

1bad65

02-02-2010, 01:49 PM

Truth finally being told here:

Would you rather a group like New Life Children's Refuge come to render aid, or someone like Democrat Mel Reynolds?

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 02:00 PM

Would you rather a group like New Life Children's Refuge come to render aid, or someone like Democrat Mel Reynolds?

I don't know who that is but I'm assuming since you brought it up then he is probably someone who has been convicted of child rape or something.

So, according to you, no one should criticize these bible thumpers because there is always going to be someone out there who is worse?

Teabagger logic.

1bad65

02-02-2010, 02:17 PM

So, according to you, no one should criticize these bible thumpers because there is always going to be someone out there who is worse?

So according to you, violence is wrong but if one of your heroes beats his wives it's ok?

Hypocrite logic.

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 03:05 PM

Where did you come up with Mel Reynolds?

Has he been somehow connected with Haiti?

BoulderDawg

02-02-2010, 04:03 PM

Still waiting on you answens concerning the death wish........Just don't have the gonads for it....do ya?:D Even after I agreed to all of your assine stipulations.

1bad65

02-11-2010, 03:15 PM

Looks like the Christians are gonna get released.

"PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — The Haitian judge deciding whether 10 U.S. missionaries should face trial on charges of trying to take a busload of children out of the country said Thursday he will recommend that they be released provisionally while the investigation continues.

Judge Bernard Saint-Vil must now send his recommendation to the prosecutor, who may agree or object, but the judge has the final authority to decide whether they stay in custody or go free."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585428,00.html

BoulderDawg

02-11-2010, 03:29 PM

Looks like America's strong hand against a weak third world country wins again.

Wink and a nod........Wonder if the military, who has been brought in to help, feel like kids in a candy shop when they see a 13/14 year old girl?

dimethylsea

02-11-2010, 06:40 PM

Wink and a nod........Wonder if the military, who has been brought in to help, feel like kids in a candy shop when they see a 13/14 year old girl?

Over the line and poor form.

BoulderDawg

02-11-2010, 07:00 PM

Truth is sometimes not pleasant. Talk to parents in Iraq about the behavior of American soldiers.

1bad65

02-11-2010, 07:02 PM

Over the line and poor form.

The guy condones domestic violence against women. This can't be a surprise for any of us.

BoulderDawg

02-11-2010, 07:05 PM

The guy condones domestic violence against women. This can't be a surprise for any of us.

How about showing me that post where I condone any type of violence against women.

dimethylsea

02-11-2010, 10:49 PM

Truth is sometimes not pleasant. Talk to parents in Iraq about the behavior of American soldiers.

One is a war zone. One is a disaster zone. The distinction of the difficulties of field discipline in the two scenarios is an unsubtle one.

Over the line and bad form.

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 12:15 AM

as you like it.......

Be thankful your children are American and treated with respect.

Drake

02-12-2010, 06:15 AM

as you like it.......

Be thankful your children are American and treated with respect.

So now I'm a child rapist, BD? And you wonder why I want you to self-terminate.

1bad65

02-12-2010, 09:56 AM

How about showing me that post where I condone any type of violence against women.

When you defend a wife beater, you are condoning his actions. It's that simple.

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 10:06 AM

So now I'm a child rapist, BD? And you wonder why I want you to self-terminate.

Your problem is that you see everything as a personal affront to you. Guess what? The world does not evolve around you nor does it consider you before it forms it's opinions.

Believe you me if I wanted to personally insult you it would be in a direct manner and face to face. I don't believe in childish cowardly games over the internet.

For someone who's suppose to be an "Intelligence officer" you seem to wear your emotions on your sleeve. Also, if your behavior on this board is any indication it is my opinion that you would fragment rather quickly under any type of pressure.

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 10:13 AM

When you defend a wife beater, you are condoning his actions. It's that simple.

In other words...no you don't have anything to back your statement. I think it's time for a retraction.

Do you honestly believe that because I'm a supporter of Ward Churchill, a man you call a wife beater based on almost no evidence at all, I support domestic violence?

Your philosophy of guilt by association is typical for the lunatic fringe of any political group. One would hope the people on this board would be past that.

Once again, show some kind of proof or retract it.

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 10:47 AM

solo1

02-12-2010, 11:14 AM

Equal rights for all ? even his speech where he dropped the following gem?

“ I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. "

Oh yeah Bobby Byrd is model Senator.
The man is a disgrace and has been for his entire tour. He fought againest the civil rights amendment, was a pro segregation white supremicist even though he offered a weak apology (for political expediancy) for his tour as a ku klux klan Grand Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops.
The only thing he has managed to do is funnel huge amounts of other states money to the backwater that is West Virginia to finance highways, bridges and other assorted monuments named in his honor.
WVa has the 5th highest poverty rate in the US. third lowest per capita income, ranks last in household income.

BD youd think with your liberal tendancies this man would have a target on the back of his head but I suppose since hes democrat his ends justify the means as long as hes left. If this same resume was carried by a right winger youd demand he be hoisted on a cross.

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 11:49 AM

Aside from the fact that you didn't bring anything up that doesn't stretch back at least a half century ,

I still have to ask:

Does that make me a member of the KKK?

Bad has just come on this board and said that I fully support beating the hell out of women because of my admiration of a civil rights leader.

Is that right? Guilt by association? Is that the game you play too?

solo1

02-12-2010, 12:14 PM

gotta run with you on this it does not make you a wife beater or one who advocates it.

My post was based on defending what I believe is the indefensible and that being Robert Byrd he has not done anything worth nothing except enrich himself on the backs of a miserable poverty stricken state. West Virginia has got to kick itself every year for seceding from Virginia. Robert Bryd has made things worse.

Again I do not believe you are a wife beater, you may own one but thats about it. Have a client flying your way this week for skiing, how is it out there?

BoulderDawg

02-12-2010, 12:30 PM

Skiing is great out here. I think the southern mountains got a little snow last night.

Were are they headed? Vail is always my number one choice.

Drake

02-12-2010, 04:08 PM

Let's go further:

I also support and admire Robert Byrd for his years of service in the senate and his dedication to equal rights for all. This service stretches back for decades.

Does that make me a member of the KKK?

If so then I know a lot of black people who are also members!:D

Based on your logic that it's my fault if you kill yourself, then you know the answer is yes. Hoist by your own pitard, there.

Why would I take it personally? Hmm, let's see... BD thinks all military members are child rapists. I'm in the military, therefore I fall into that category. In fact, I'm a leader in the military, so I am a leader of child rapists. Really... kill yourself, you racist, hateful monster.

1bad65

02-13-2010, 02:25 PM

Based on your logic that it's my fault if you kill yourself, then you know the answer is yes. Hoist by your own pitard, there.

Excellent point.

So now we can say, by his own standards, he does indeed condone violence against women.

BoulderDawg

02-13-2010, 03:52 PM

So now we can say, by his own standards, he does indeed condone violence against women.

That's fine. You can smear me all you like. Let the people who read this decide for themselves.

However make sure they all know on what basis and what proof you have for calling me a violent wife beater.

BoulderDawg

02-13-2010, 04:00 PM

Based on your logic that it's my fault if you kill yourself, then you know the answer is yes. Hoist by your own pitard, there.

Why would I take it personally? Hmm, let's see... BD thinks all military members are child rapists. I'm in the military, therefore I fall into that category. In fact, I'm a leader in the military, so I am a leader of child rapists. Really... kill yourself, you racist, hateful monster.

Pitard? I don't even know what that is. It's not in my dictionary.

In fact, I'm a leader

You may be some sort of officer in the army and they may have given you a position where you are over a group of soldiers however that doesn't make you a leader...no where near....not even close.

A leader does not have to blow his own horn. A man who is a leader is called so by others.

Drake

02-13-2010, 05:24 PM

Pitard? I don't even know what that is. It's not in my dictionary.

You may be some sort of officer in the army and they may have given you a position where you are over a group of soldiers however that doesn't make you a leader...no where near....not even close.

A leader does not have to blow his own horn. A man who is a leader is called so by others.

I like it when those who have no responsibility, no service to society, and absolutely no respect for others try and tell people what a leader is.

As for what a pitard is... I thought you were college educated? Even a stupid Army guy like me has an education in classic literature. They must have skipped that to give you more education on how to exploit native cultures for your own profit.

dimethylsea

02-13-2010, 09:25 PM

As for what a pitard is... I thought you were college educated? Even a stupid Army guy like me has an education in classic literature. They must have skipped that to give you more education on how to exploit native cultures for your own profit.

It's PETARD. I went and looked and apparently it's not a pole or standard (as I always assumed) but a kind of small bomb or grenade.

Hoist apparently signifies being lifted up.. by the blast of said weapon.

Well I guess I learn something new every day.

Drake

02-13-2010, 09:54 PM

It's PETARD. I went and looked and apparently it's not a pole or standard (as I always assumed) but a kind of small bomb or grenade.

Hoist apparently signifies being lifted up.. by the blast of said weapon.

Well I guess I learn something new every day.

It's Shakespeare, and I've seen it spelled both ways. The phrase basically says that you were blown up by your own bomb, which, while the essence is still the same, can be interpreted in various ways.

BoulderDawg

02-13-2010, 11:47 PM

BoulderDawg

02-14-2010, 12:02 AM

Wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!

Wasn't Pitard the captain of the Enterprise!:p:p:p:D:D:D

Drake

02-14-2010, 12:03 AM

My.......isn't there a saying about giving someone enough rope. Notice the tirade when I fed GI Joe the mispelled word.:eek:

You've seen it both ways....sure! :D Yeah, let me guess....You saw Thomas Jefferson write it out in France.

The word is "Petard" in Hamlet. Look it up yourself if you don't believe it.

Personally I could care less......however such a grammer stickler as yourself would want to be called out on an error.

By the way have you ever heard of a run-on sentence?

Let me fix that for you:

:p

Wow... wrong on every single count. First you never heard of it, and now you do, AFTER I provide the reference as to who wrote it, and AFTER someone else brought up what it means? Are you REALLY that stupid? I quoted it, moron. Why would I have to look it up? You were the clueless one until I mentioned who wrote it.

Second, it is NOT a run on sentence. It's a long sentence that could certainly become two, BUT, there is no requirement for it to be so. You don't even understand what a run on sentence is, so I'd recommend against correcting people over it.

And once again, riding on someone else's research, the argument was about the extent of Thomas Jefferson's correspondence and how much it impacted the Constitution.

So, stay in your lane, and don't jump in swinging just because someone else on here is having an educated conversation with me. Once again, you have made yourself out to be the fool.