go italy!!!

[uki]

you'd think world leaders would not take their self defense and awareness for granted...

wonder why they haven't really blasted this across the american media channels yet??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4s_hRMib30&feature=player_embedded#

it would suck to be a world leader these days. :p

[taai gihk yahn]

you'd think world leaders would not take their self defense and awareness for granted...

wonder why they haven't really blasted this across the american media channels yet??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4s_hRMib30&feature=player_embedded#

it would suck to be a world leader these days. :p

LOL - BBC had it plastered across their homepage like the cheap tabloid rag that they know they wanna be!

as for American media, well, that would be predicated on the American public a) knowing who Berlusconi is / why he's been having problems (they think politicos in the US are corrupt? ha - this guy is a real pro!); b) realizing that there are actually other countries in the world besides the US :eek:

[uki]

i feel for the guy who did it... he's in for one rough time. :(

[taai gihk yahn]

i feel for the guy who did it... he's in for one rough time. :(

yeah, the poor bastid is probably going to get nominated for leadership of the opposition party - a fate worse than death!

[Drake]

Actually, it's been all over the American media. They started thinking he was punched, but I guess it turned out to be a small replica of a catheral. However, our biggest story in local news is how there are several winter storm warnings/avalanche warnings in the mountains, and several major passes are shut down.

[Drake]

He could learn a thing or two from our last President! :D

http://canttouchbush.ytmnd.com/

[David Jamieson]

Our previous prime minister Chretien would've simply choked that guy out easy.

lol

Good Ol Jean. We miss him now. lol

[bawang]

i hope he doesnt get taken out
and i dont mean to dinner

[sanjuro_ronin]

Our previous prime minister Chretien would've simply choked that guy out easy.

lol

Good Ol Jean. We miss him now. lol

Or go all "naked/kill" on him with an inuit carving !

[SanHeChuan]

realizing that there are actually other countries in the world besides the US

Other countries:confused: Thats crazy talk. Everyone knows the rest of the world is like mad max. :eek:

[taai gihk yahn]

Our previous prime minister Chretien would've simply choked that guy out easy.

lol

Good Ol Jean. We miss him now. lol

yeah, but the guy before him would have been like, "Uh...well, uh..."

[David Jamieson]

yeah, but the guy before him would have been like, "Uh...well, uh..."

I assume you're talking about Brian Mulroney. A.K.A Ronald Reagans Gimp. lol

we had a short stint female PM just prior to Chretien with Kim Campbell. She lasted a hot 6 months or so before Chretien stepped in and did his 10 years or so.

currently we are suffering the lulls of not having any qualified people serving us and so the office is in the hands of a minority government run by a neo-con still.

Our other choices are bleak!

we have:

Liberal Party of Canada - Michael Ignatieff - A guy who spent the last 35 years or so in the UK and the USA who got appointed leader of the liberal party without an election. WTF!? said Canada.

Conservative Party of Canada - Stephen Harper - One man show, muzzles his mp's and is a neo-con. NO one likes him, but we put up with him until someone better comes along.

New Democrat Party - Jack Layton, a wishy washy socialist who can flip flop on any issue and has been seen as a liberal of convenience and a conservative of convenience and has resigned himself to always being the little guy and therefore does not much of anything useful foir the country.

Bloc Quebecois - A separatist party from Quebec that was originally started by the liberal party to create a bloc of votes against bad policy in quebec. A good idea at the time, obsolete now, but apparently none of the guys in the party could get a job in the private sector so they all mull around in the hopes they can emotionally incite francophones in the province to trigger another referendum for whatever reasons that will yield. In short, a group of idiots of the highest order that another group of idiots seems to keep electing in the hopes quebec can get a better deal in the federation.

The Green Party A bowl of fruit loops, pick the flavour you like most, let it tax you and save a tree! yay green! Elizabeth May is smart. She's in the wrong party. She's thrown in with a pack of unfocused lefties who are lefty for the sake of it. Anti-capitalist, anti-urban, anti- white, you name it and if it's a normal part of society, they are against it! get on your bike and ride to work even if it is Canada, it is 30 below and it is a blizzard outside for 6 months of the year. Pretty much filled with as many stupid people as teh Bloc, but just not as elected. Thankfully.

Plus, we have a whole whack of indies and fringers.

[bawang]

conservative in canada = liberal in america
stephen harper seems good to me

[WinterPalm]

Our previous prime minister Chretien would've simply choked that guy out easy.

lol

Good Ol Jean. We miss him now. lol

I'm truly amazed at how many people I meet that share that sentiment...how could a guy that was the subject of so much loathing, be missed like he is? Harper, that's the answer.

[David Jamieson]

conservative in canada = liberal in america
stephen harper seems good to me

Harper is actually a reformer. That's his roots. that's his agenda. He threw in with the Conservatives, because the entire right fell to disarray after Mulroney. So it fragmented and was brought back together by Harper, McKay and a few other notable reformers and one or two conservatives.

Harper may seem good to you, but ask yourself "for what". What has he done for the country really? reduced the gst by 2 cents? approved the HST to cover the fact they didn't remove the rest as promised? lol

How about the elected senate he wanted and instead decided to go ahead and appoint 18 more conservative senators and has yet to make a move on having our senate elected?

how about his record on keeping the public and the rest of parliament informed? Which on the face of it is an epic fail.

Problem with Harper is he is a dictator at heart who is trying to run a minority government as if he had a majority mandate and won't make any moves internationally unless it is to follow suit with what the USA is doing which has nevber been good for Canada.

Our relationship with America has always been like a couple of well intentioned business partners. But with Harper, we are fitting into the profile of America's *****.

So if you're OK with that, then cool. I don't agree with your politics. :)

[bawang]

coming from a place where even your best friend might be a part time informer and u cant mention politics at all i find harper not that bad
i think ur exagerating the problems
i dont care about government policies , me personally all i care is they dont be corrupt like the sponsorship scandal

[David Jamieson]

coming from a place where even your best friend might be a part time informer and u cant mention politics at all i find harper not that bad
i think ur exagerating the problems
i dont care about government policies , me personally all i care is they dont be corrupt like the sponsorship scandal
The sponsorship scandal was a choke point in the credibility of Quebec liberals and how the Liberals dealt with Quebec. I agree.

However, when played against the 10 billion handout to gm and chrysler it's peanuts.

Or when measured against the environmental damage of the tar sands being exploited without the proper pollution controls in place.

Or that we leave our prisoners in grey areas such as gitmo.

Or that Tories promote public funded programs in the multi millions of dollars with your tax dollars in a cheque with a prominant tory logo on it (this is a corruption) and make as if the subsidies and federal projects funded by you and me are coming from their party!

Or that we jump a few billion in deficit overnight because the PC finance minister failed to remember a couple of key items.

Or...well, as you can see, the list can go on and on.

the last conservative that did any good for Canada was the first Conservative, John A. McDonald.

Diefenbaker was a fail, Mulroney was a fail, Campbell was a fail and Harper has failed so often, it is startling that he has not yet served a whole term!

The sponsorship scandal though, yeah, well at least it was the Liberal party who actually put that on the table as they investigated themselves and their own members under Paul Martin.

this is something ethical you will simply not see from any Conservative past or present or future despite Mr Harpers talk of transparency. As you can see by recent events, he says one thing, but it doesn't apply to him or his party. lol

But it's your choice who you want to vote for. I just call em as they are. :)

[bawang]

i didnt vote for him
i voted for the communist party for the funnys

it seems futile whoever u vote for no one has passion or real patriotism .but i tolerate harper

as much as i dont like neo cons ive seen the libertarian atheist capitalist paradise growing in china. one mans paradise is another mans hell

[David Jamieson]

i didnt vote for him
i voted for the communist party for the funnys

it seems futile whoever u vote for no one has passion or real patriotism .but i tolerate harper

as much as i don't like neo cons ive seen the libertarian atheist capitalist paradise growing in china. one mans paradise is another mans hell

same as it ever was.

I'd vote for Elizabeth May if she ran as a liberal and adhered to the primary party platform of the liberals. As long as she is with the Greens, I don't think she'll have the voice she deserves.

[sanjuro_ronin]

The handout cemented my dislike for the Conservatives, the HST here in Ontario cemented my dislike for the liberals and KNOWING the NDP cemented my dislike for them.
I miss Preston Manning.

[David Jamieson]

The handout cemented my dislike for the Conservatives, the HST here in Ontario cemented my dislike for the liberals and KNOWING the NDP cemented my dislike for them.
I miss Preston Manning.

LOL!

Actually you miss his dad who actually did something for the country. :)
Ernest Manning. Who ushered in Canada's national healthcare!

Preston though, did a lot of bible thumping mixed with his politics and had as much appeal to Canadians as Mike Huckabee did to the Americans.

I'm with you all the way on the rest of your political sentiments. I am so disappointed in McGuinty. What a freaking piece of work he turned out to be. He has managed to somehow throw the other parties into disarray though seeing as they had their leaders replaced recently which is never good for a sitting opposition.... as we can see with the 'puddle dump cluster hump' that we call Ottawa these days. :D

[Xiao3 Meng4]

I'm truly amazed at how many people I meet that share that sentiment...how could a guy that was the subject of so much loathing, be missed like he is? Harper, that's the answer.

People best remember the last thing in a list. One of Chretien's last decisions before leaving office was not to join the war in Iraq.

Plus he was much wittier than Harper on THH22M.

Something I learned recently: Harper has a prayer meeting w/ some of his Cabinet ministers before almost every parliamentary proceeding.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I have had the chance to meet a few politicians:
Bob Rae,
Jean Chretian
Steven Harper
Preston Manning
Justin Trudeau
Brian Mulrony
and a few others.
They are all bunch of freaking idiots, but Manning had an hilarious sense of humour !
Chretian was an arrogant ass that created so much animosity in his people that they wanted him dead, LOL !

Bunch of freaking lawyers, what do you expect?