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SPJ
12-30-2009, 10:52 AM
this is inspired by antiwar, smuggling, qi threads

hwat is war vs peace. whta is xia vs dao. hwat is zheng vs xie.

Ba Dao is the way of using violence.

Wang Dao is the way to rule or convince without violence.

we may need to use Ba to establish or found a country.

however, we need to rule with convince.

hwat R Ur thoughts?

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SPJ
12-30-2009, 10:57 AM
Chu Ba Wang or Xiang Yu

he fought bravely with his family army to defeat Qin's army.

however, he was not a benevolent ruler. He buries tens of thousands of Qin's surrendered soldiers alive. This shocked everybody.

on the other hand, Liu Bang was weak but benevolent.

he entered guan zhong first and broke down Qin laws.

there were only 3 rules instead of many and many rules in Qin lawbook

heavy rules made Qin strong but also brought about its demise.

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uki
12-30-2009, 11:57 AM
bawang... to use violence in order to convince others to use non-violence... nice. :D