White Tiger Question for B-Rad.

[Hardwork108]

Hmm... found some northern longfist white tiger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUF3DyeOosY

Hello B-Rad,

You posted the above link in the Southern Forums. I was going to ask you this question there but the moderator decided to close the thread inspite of your post that added an interesting and SIGNIFICANT development to the subject matter of the thread which was White Tiger!!!:confused:

ANYWAY, thank you for posting the clip. I am curious to know wether the Long Fist White Tiger in the clip is a Northern Style of its own or wether it is just a form within another style?

HW108

[sanjuro_ronin]

Instead of being an ass you could have just asked what happened like Tao.
It was a mistake and it has been re-opened.
Jerk off.

[Hardwork108]

Instead of being an ass you could have just asked what happened like Tao.
It was a mistake and it has been re-opened.
Jerk off.

How was I supposed to know it was a "mistake" as it seems that you have been making a lot of such "mistakes" lately........probably to make me look responsible for the closing down of threads?

OR was it a Freudian "mistake"????? LOL!

[uki]

looks like red communist wushu to me - lacking intention and depth. :p

[sanjuro_ronin]

How was I supposed to know it was a "mistake" as it seems that you have been making a lot of such "mistakes" lately........probably to make me look responsible for the closing down of threads?

OR was it a Freudian "mistake"????? LOL!

You ask, like Tao did.

[uki]

You askask what?curse this post length sh!t...

[sanjuro_ronin]

ask what?curse this post length sh!t...

That IS THE question, isn't it?

[Hardwork108]

You ask, like Tao did.
Tao doesn't know you as well as I do!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Tao doesn't know you as well as I do!

Pervert !
:D

[David Jamieson]

looks like red communist wushu to me - lacking intention and depth. :p

lol @ "red communist"

I thought the same thing, but mash up with tan tui and maybe some longfist.
It's the skippy steps in the middle that give it away as crap and the sheer lack of anything even remotely tiger in flavour or technique that define it as not a tiger style or system or derived from etc.

[Lucas]

ya i got a quarter through it but after all those spear hands and where he almost fell down doing a basic standard armwheel....i just had to stop. :p

[uki]

I thought the same thing, but mash up with tan tui and maybe some longfist. It's the skippy steps in the middle that give it away as crap and the sheer lack of anything even remotely tiger in flavour or technique that define it as not a tiger style or system or derived from etc.it was pretty ****ing dull that's for sure.

ya i got a quarter through it but after all those spear hands and where he almost fell down doing a basic standard armwheel....i just had to stop.i dunno how anyone could have missed the "almost" during the armwheel... LOL... i did finish watching it though.

i mean to be fair, form is form, but defining this as anything remotely "tiger" is asinine.

[Lucas]

okay so i watched the full thing. it looks very very very similar to a modern long fist contemp performance routine that i learned years ago, with some 'southern' 'wannabetiger' ...?movements? thrown in.

i mean, some of it is directly transferable to that long fist routine i learned. keep in mind i learned this from someone who also teaches nanquan. it was a longfist performance routine, not tiger, that was learned, we had seperate tiger/crane material very different stuff.

im not claiming anything about any style, but thats what i noticed.

[B-Rad]

Hello B-Rad,

You posted the above link in the Southern Forums. I was going to ask you this question there but the moderator decided to close the thread inspite of your post that added an interesting and SIGNIFICANT development to the subject matter of the thread which was White Tiger!!!:confused:

ANYWAY, thank you for posting the clip. I am curious to know wether the Long Fist White Tiger in the clip is a Northern Style of its own or wether it is just a form within another style?

HW108

I really don't know, my guess is it's a single form within some lesser known longfist system (like a family branch). You'd have to ask the guy who posted it for sure. He seems to go around filming lesser seen forms/styles. I've seen a couple other "white tiger" forms in other systems. I think there's a white tiger staff form on youtube somewhere by one of those taoist vcd teachers (the dude with the yin-yang outfit I think?). It's pretty bad though. Haven't seen any white tiger that was very tigery though other than some stuff an old teacher of mine made up.

[B-Rad]

As for him "almost falling over in wheeling arms" it wasn't the usual wheeling arms technique. He wheels and stops briefly bent over with both arms back and the hands in "beak" position. Don't ask me what the heck it's for, or what it's called, but I've seen in a couple traditional forms before. Anyone know what that's supposed to be?

[David Jamieson]

As for him "almost falling over in wheeling arms" it wasn't the usual wheeling arms technique. He wheels and stops briefly bent over with both arms back and the hands in "beak" position. Don't ask me what the heck it's for, or what it's called, but I've seen in a couple traditional forms before. Anyone know what that's supposed to be?

hooking hands are usually a scoop.

[MasterKiller]

http://i45.tinypic.com/j95xxc.jpg

[hskwarrior]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asrfc7VX9Ro&feature=related

[David Jamieson]

http://i45.tinypic.com/j95xxc.jpg

that is truly awesome!

[Hardwork108]

http://i45.tinypic.com/j95xxc.jpg

Is this a young Sanjuro ronin at the beginning of his cross training journey? Or is it a young Dave Ross practicing his Lama Pai secret techniques? :p

[sanjuro_ronin]

Is this a young Sanjuro ronin at the beginning of his cross training journey? Or is it a young Dave Ross practicing his Lama Pai secret techniques? :p

What, you haven't figured it out yet?
Me and Dave are the same person !!

[Frost]

Is this a young Sanjuro ronin at the beginning of his cross training journey? Or is it a young Dave Ross practicing his Lama Pai secret techniques? :p

or is it someone practising their super secret authentic kung fu that only they know?

[Dragonzbane76]

What, you haven't figured it out yet?
Me and Dave are the same person !!

yeah me and bawang are the alter ego or screen names of Ross. so is about everyone else here.

[Dragonzbane76]

or is it someone practising their super secret authentic kung fu that only they know?

no that's a super secret 'closet' master I've only heard about. maybe i should approach the kid to see if he'll teach me with his 2 year degree program. HW8 approves all such 'secret' closet masters so i should probably find this kid/master. He's always preaching at me to find a good Kung fu master. :)

[Hardwork108]

What, you haven't figured it out yet?
Me and Dave are the same person !!
I thought that at the least you two were related.:D

[Hardwork108]

or is it someone practising their super secret authentic kung fu that only they know?

He can' t be!!!

Every one knows that there is no super secret authentic kung fu without some Olympic weight training thrown in.....LOL

[uki]

He can' t be!!!

Every one knows that there is no super secret authentic kung fu without some Olympic weight training thrown in...and... NO ONE could ever create a style. :eek:

[Hardwork108]

and... NO ONE could ever create a style. :eek:
Not unless they were Knucklehead MMA-ists who created "improved" kung fu styles...by adding, wait for it, sparring with boxing gloves...to make their new art more "realistic" and "functional"....LOL.

[Frost]

He can' t be!!!

Every one knows that there is no super secret authentic kung fu without some Olympic weight training thrown in.....LOL

and everyone knows you don't even have a teacher and have never actually trained with an authentic master, just read about them :D

[Frost]

Not unless they were Knucklehead MMA-ists who created "improved" kung fu styles...by adding, wait for it, sparring with boxing gloves...to make their new art more "realistic" and "functional"....LOL.

well it beats pretending to have authentic kung fu skills but notr being able to talk about what they are and where you got them from :D

[Hardwork108]

and everyone knows you don't even have a teacher and have never actually trained with an authentic master, just read about them :D
I believe that my sifus would take an exception to that statement....

[Hardwork108]

well it beats pretending to have authentic kung fu skills but notr being able to talk about what they are and where you got them from :D

Us TCMA-ists just don't discuss certain aspects with every Tom, D!ck and Harry, specially on the world wide web.....

[Frost]

I believe that my sifus would take an exception to that statement....

really ...well we will have to agree to disagree here i personally think they don't exist and if they did would not want to be linked with you :)

[Frost]

Us TCMA-ists just don't discuss certain aspects with every Tom, D!ck and Harry, specially on the world wide web.....

oh thats a shame... makes you wonder why you come on this board if you can't discuss your training methods and background.......:)

[Hardwork108]

oh thats a shame... makes you wonder why you come on this board if you can't discuss your training methods and background.......:)

I discuss the methods that I choose to discuss.;):)

And a good bit of my background is in my profile.

[Hardwork108]

really ...well we will have to agree to disagree here i personally think they don't exist and if they did would not want to be linked with you :)

Yes, join the rest of the Know it All, knuckleheads here and go into denial. LOL

[Dragonzbane76]

Know it All, knuckleheads here and go into denial. LOL

describing yourself again i see.

[Hardwork108]

describing yourself again i see.

I am afraid that the term "knucklehead" is reserved for the MMA-ists and Cross trainers who "bless" these forums with their clueless comments regarding the TCMAs. That means you. :D