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BoulderDawg
02-07-2010, 09:56 AM
We're getting a good look at what will happen if neo teabaggers take total control of the government.

It's already happened to a city in Colorado:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_dystopia_conservatives_built_20100204/


Choosing death means mimicking Colorado Springs—a Republican red tattoo on Colorado’s purple heart.

As a venue for political experiments, the sprawly GOP enclave is as pristine a conservative laboratory as you’ll find in America. If the city has garnered contemporary notoriety at all, it has achieved infamy for domiciling right-wing groups like Focus on the Family and infecting the world with viruses like Douglas Bruce—the father of draconian initiatives that seek to prohibit governments from raising levies.

When the so-called tea party movement’s anti-tax activists refer to the abstract concept of conservative purity, we can turn to a microcosm like The Springs (as we Coloradoans call it) for a good example of what such purity looks like in practice—and the view isn’t pretty.

Thanks to the city’s rejection of tax increases—and, thus, depleted municipal revenues—The Denver Post reports that “more than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark; the city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops; water cutbacks mean most parks will be dead ... recreation centers, indoor and outdoor pools [and] museums will close for good; buses no longer run on evenings and weekends; [and] the city won’t pay for any street paving.”

Meanwhile, even with the Colorado Springs Gazette uncovering tent ghettos of newly homeless residents, the city’s social services are being reduced—all as fat cats aim to punish what remains of a middle class. As just one example, rather than initiating a tax discussion, the CEO of The Springs’ most lavish luxury hotel is pushing city leaders to cut public employee salaries to the $24,000-a-year level he pays his own workforce—a level approaching Colorado’s official poverty line for a family of four.

This is what Reaganites have always meant when they’ve talked of a “shining city on a hill.” They envision a dystopia whose anti-tax fires incinerate social fabric faster than James Dobson can say “family values”—a place like Colorado Springs that is starting to reek of economic death.

So sad. I know several people down there and they say it's like the great depression. Things are at a boiling point and my friends are making plans to get out. They will lose thousands relocating but they have no choice.

24K a year! I guess we know what corporate business in the Springs thinks of the citizens down there.

solo1
02-07-2010, 11:11 AM
your right god forbid the guy that earns the money keeps it and doesnt have it confiscated for the "greater good" . Maybe they should have considered a rainy day fund, you know something stupid like save a few bucks for a rainy day instead of assuming the taxpayer is a bottomless pit. Is there a more ignorant self rightous group of people then liberals?

SanHeChuan
02-07-2010, 11:30 AM
Is there a more ignorant self rightous group of people then liberals?

Conservatives. :p

1bad65
02-08-2010, 08:12 AM
Conservatives. :p

Yeah, the fact we want to keep as much of the money we EARN as we can really makes us self-righteous.

BoulderDawg
02-08-2010, 10:22 AM
Then move to Colorado Springs. I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.

Xiao3 Meng4
02-08-2010, 10:36 AM
The Developed world should have Potlaches.

1bad65
02-08-2010, 10:39 AM
So you got this story off a liberal blog.

Can you post a link to the Colorado Springs budget that shows "more than a third of the streetlights in Colorado Springs will go dark; the city is dumping firefighting jobs, a vice team, burglary investigators, beat cops; water cutbacks mean most parks will be dead ... recreation centers, indoor and outdoor pools [and] museums will close for good; buses no longer run on evenings and weekends; [and] the city won’t pay for any street paving.”?

Since city budgets are public record, please post that info so we can see if these allegations are really true, or just the rantings of a liberal blog.

BoulderDawg
02-08-2010, 11:01 AM
I love to kid around with my CS friends..."Last one out make sure you lock up":D

I'm thinking they oughta just turn it into a big gated communiity. You could put Dobson's Focus on the Family gestapo at the front gate to keep all the riff raff out and everyone inside would be warm and cozy!.

Of course the cost to do all of this will make taxes look like parking meter fees but what the hell.....at least those Teabaggers won't have to worry about us pesky liberals anymore!:eek:

solo1
02-08-2010, 01:14 PM
can we do that ? live in a gated community without liberals? I knew we could discriminate for everything else, cause thats what conservatives do but can we bar liberals from living in our neighborhoods? it would be a perfect world not being preached to about how awful it is to keep your money, not have ot confiscated to finance every idiotic social experiment that comes down the pike.
boulder dawg? its a blast having you on this board! rarely can folks disagree so vehemently and still have something that unifies us (CMA). good times good times. Your poking at us conservatives is wonderful reparte'

David Jamieson
02-08-2010, 02:56 PM
welcome to little somalia, formerly colorado springs.

Notice those houses with razor wire and gun turrets? those are the rich folk who created this utopia *bang bang*


lol

yup, that's about where it goes. Not supporting infrastructure in urban areas because of archaic libertarian principles that apply to 200 years ago when everyone was a farmer is the height of well...retarded. lol

dimethylsea
02-08-2010, 03:05 PM
yup, that's about where it goes. Not supporting infrastructure in urban areas because of archaic libertarian principles that apply to 200 years ago when everyone was a farmer is the height of well...retarded. lol

Um... don't tar and feather the "archaic libertarians" with the blame for this. Authentic libertarians tend to view municipal ordinances as way more tractable than federal power.

Left libertarians tend to interpret the "no initiation of force" clause with a slightly different idea of how personal property is created from the environment. Instead of labor invested and presumption of non-pillage title (a problem given NorAm's history) left libs tend to emphasize community consent.

Any real libertarian is horrified at corporations being given more power than natural persons, being granted monopolies, and peddling political influence. They are also horrified at legislation of morality.

Arguably the people in Breckenridge who made pot legal in their town are more functionally libertarian than the Colorado Springs folks.

BoulderDawg
02-08-2010, 03:11 PM
can we do that ? live in a gated community without liberals? I knew we could discriminate for everything else, cause thats what conservatives do but can we bar liberals from living in our neighborhoods? it would be a perfect world not being preached to about how awful it is to keep your money, not have ot confiscated to finance every idiotic social experiment that comes down the pike.
boulder dawg? its a blast having you on this board! rarely can folks disagree so vehemently and still have something that unifies us (CMA). good times good times. Your poking at us conservatives is wonderful reparte'

It would totally suit me if you guys had your own country. Right now I'm willing to cede Colorado Springs to your control. The Springs can be like a territory or something. However the big country can be Texas. The Gov down there wants to break from the union anyway and there is plenty of room for all the teabaggers. You can go down there and have a Hi O time shooting people on saturday nights and going to church on sunday morning!:D

1bad65
02-08-2010, 03:52 PM
Let me guess, you've never been to Texas, but you are an expert on the State and it's people. :rolleyes:

BoulderDawg
02-08-2010, 05:28 PM
By the way, they showed Sarah talking to the teabaggers. She mentioned Texas seceding from the Union and the crowd totally went wild!:D

I'm all for it!