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uki
02-26-2010, 05:58 AM
nature is the ultimate influence on martial arts - countless styles/methods based on numerous movements and concepts derived from observing the interplay of yin/yang play out in nature... i was recently inspired by watching the movement of smoke as it rises, how it reacts to the most subtle of changes in the air and then as if on que, this snowstorm comes along and i go thru the usual routine of observing nature from a more technological perspective:

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/ecwv.html

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/wcwv.html

i was compelled to share this understanding that though the means of observing nature have evolved, the principles of incorporating it all remains the same... nature truly is the best teacher.
:)

Dragonzbane76
02-26-2010, 06:03 AM
nature is the ultimate influence on martial arts

nature is the ultimate influence on life. We, as people, try to seclude ourselves from nature. But nature is nature and will not be denied. :)

David Jamieson
02-26-2010, 06:35 AM
Nature will drug you and rape you and leave you for dead on a dirt road in Mexico.
Never trust Nature!! You won't even get a t-shirt for it!

ever!

:p

SPJ
02-26-2010, 08:05 AM
we part of nature

so we need to understand nature

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:)

kfson
02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
There are all kinds of animal styles, how about a human style?

TAO YIN
02-26-2010, 09:15 AM
"We just need to get nature to cooperate with us..."

I for one will be glad when we refigure nature out again. I'm sick of working just to pay for gas, car insurance, electricity, etc. One would think we would have figured out a way around this by now. But, that takes away from control, so we don't want that. Horse feed costed and costs too...

taai gihk yahn
02-26-2010, 09:27 AM
I was thinking the following:

"Heaven and Earth are ruthless, and treat the ten thousand things like straw dogs."

That's catchy; I like it; I'm gonna copyright and market that.

David Jamieson
02-26-2010, 09:28 AM
I was thinking the following:

"Heaven and Earth are ruthless, and treat the ten thousand things like straw dogs."

That's catchy; I like it; I'm gonna copyright and market that.

uh, I think I already said that.

semantics man, semantics... lol

taai gihk yahn
02-26-2010, 09:53 AM
uh, I think I already said that.

semantics man, semantics... lol

you did?:mad:

frickin' Canooks...

TAO YIN
02-26-2010, 09:57 AM
Just curious...

Do any of you grow your own food? Tend animals? Fish? :confused:

David Jamieson
02-26-2010, 09:59 AM
Just curious...

Do any of you grow your own food? Tend animals? Fish? :confused:

have done yes. Have worked on a dairy farm, in an abattoir, market garden, and have done commercial feed grain and oilseed farming.

I have not tended fish. lol

anyway, why do you ask?

GeneChing
02-26-2010, 10:20 AM
i was recently inspired by watching the movement of smoke as it rises, how it reacts to the most subtle of changes in the air When I was in grad school, fractal mathematics were all the rage and trying to make computations to simulate smoke patterns were part of that. Some proposed that there was a fractal quality to smoke patterns. That was nearly two decades ago and I've totally lost touch with fractal mathematics and if there was ever any more conclusive theories about the connection.

Daoism engages a lot of principles of harmony with nature. I think you can take that notion much ****her than martial arts and apply it to all arts.

uki
02-26-2010, 10:25 AM
i burn on a daily basis. :D

SAAMAG
02-26-2010, 10:33 AM
Nature will drug you and rape you and leave you for dead on a dirt road in Mexico.
Never trust Nature!! You won't even get a t-shirt for it!

ever!

:p

Are you sure that was "nature" and not "Nacho" and his buddies? I mean it IS Mexico you're talking about here.

TAO YIN
02-26-2010, 10:58 AM
David,

I was just curious and wanted to see what people thought about that kind of stuff. I grew up farming, so all of that stuff is close to me at heart. I have had some pretty good conversations with cows, pigs, goats, dogs, cats, fish, and well lots of species over the years. And I have talked to quite a few plants over the years. I don't know what is funnier, asparagus or pigs. Asparagus acts like a baby when its a baby, then when it grows up, it just wants to go everwhere. Anyways, I have always tried to do my part in keeping the earth kind of the same way I found it while growing up.

Out of the jobs that you mentioned, which one did you like most and why?

TAO YIN
02-26-2010, 11:12 AM
:)

hahaha, I just noticed that.

I've only tended fish in having a fish tank once before. That was fun. But I have been to a few fisheries. On what I was talking about, fishing is awesome.

Fishing while doing standing chi gung is pretty daamned important if you ask me.

kfson
02-26-2010, 11:17 AM
an abattoir

Had to look that one up, merci.

Scott R. Brown
02-26-2010, 12:31 PM
I was thinking the following:

"Heaven and Earth are ruthless, and treat the ten thousand things like straw dogs."

That's catchy; I like it; I'm gonna copyright and market that.

Just steal it from the Canook and publish a short and concise treatise with little ditties like that. You know ones that don't really say anything of value, but with just enough vague nonsense to make people argue about what you meant for a couple of thousand years! Then some people will form silly philosophies around it and others will make exercises where they have to breathe a lot and lift heavy weights with their testicles and labias, and others will make really really really slow moving fighting thingies from it that they think makes them invincible warriors while others make a fighting thingy where they walk around and around and around and around and around in circles for days upon days upon days upon days, and they will be invincible warriors too and the circle invincible warriors will fight the slow moving invincible warriors and they will fight each other to see who is the real invincible warrior and it won’t make any sense except to the really really slow moving ones and walking around and around and around ones and then we could make some lines ohhhhh I don’t know…..maybe 6 of them piled on top of each other and some can be straight lines and some are broken in two and we can configure them in maybe 8 or 16 or 32 or maybe even 64 different kinds and we can assign different arbitrary meanings to each one and we will put them in a book and then people will buy some pick-up sticks or pixy sticks or drinking straws or milfoil or something and throw them on the ground and how they end up will determine which of the 64 little groups of lines it represents and they can conform their lives according those little straws on the ground….we can find millions of millions of things to do with your little book of ditties……

Yeah I think your little idea has the power to change the world and the way people think and how they furnish their homes and offices and how they exercise and breathe and eat, and things like that…..wow you are really really smart!!!!!!

I'd buy, read it, and then pretend I am an expert on it on some martial arts BB!!!!

Then we could be come vicarious friends based upon some weird and strange coincidences and I end up killing you in some horrible and bloody manner, and you will become some kind of mystical saint and everyone will say you didn’t really die you just rode a heifer out into heaven on a dragon or some such nonsense and even though I can show them your pickled head in a jar they won’t believe it is you, and they will worship you like a god, but you and I will know the real truth cuz I have your pickled head in a jar and you talk to me and stuff, and oh wait I am thinking of Futurama now, but it might still work anyway and we will laugh at them all for thinking silly thoughts cuz you made it all up off the top of your head, but no one will believe us even though I have your pickled head as proof!!!!!!!!!:confused:

Good idea huh?????:)

David Jamieson
02-26-2010, 12:50 PM
David,

*snip*

Out of the jobs that you mentioned, which one did you like most and why?

Abattoir. For the boners of course.

Just kidding. It's a sick joke. sick, sick...anyway...

Grain farming.
Learned the most about the vehicles, cycles, seasons, variety, ag in general, etc.

SnowDog
02-26-2010, 02:26 PM
When I lived in the Mtns I was always inspired by nature.

It was all around me, and you really do become connected to it when you live in the midst of it and truely see how insigificant you are compaired to it.

And the woods made an awesome training partner when you had no one else around. Uneven terrain to practice stances and footwork, rock climbing, running and hiking to build endurance, and dead Aspen groves to work on your Iron shin and forearm conditioning.

That is one thing I really miss now that I live in the city, the disconnection I feel with the natural world now.

Lee Chiang Po
02-26-2010, 03:12 PM
I own a number of acres, and have been retired since 1992, and I do some farming. I raise quail, chickens, pheasants for eggs and meat. Goats that I milk and occasionally eat when thinning the flock. I drink goats milk, but make cheese from some of it. I put in a vegetable garden each year, canning such things as tomatoes and pickles. I have fruit trees and I also have grapes and blackberries that I use to make wines. You are allowed to make a certain amount of wine for personal consumption yearly. And I love to fish. I have a small boat and a large boat, I fish with rod and reel as well as fishing with trot lines and jugs. I live on a large lake and I catch and eat a large amount of freshwater fish. I am also a Master Falconer, and I hunt large game with bow and arrow. I love the natural world and I try to live in it as much as I possibly can.

Yum Cha
02-26-2010, 04:25 PM
Traversing the swirling masses of the 'heard' as I ply my way back and forth on the black pathways I follow daily going out to harvest the resources to feed the family.

Eating the bounty of the sea and the land, masterfully prepared by the hand of experts, and delivered to my table by beautiful virgins (a bloke can imagine, right?).

Drinking exotic brews resulting from centuries of experience, and bottled and preserved by armies of dedicated individuals.

Standing amongst the throng of my semi-naked brothers and sisters, as the ocean crashes and slides up and back across the sand.

Laying on the grass, under the stars and gum trees, amongst hundreds of my tribe, watching flickering lights on a massive canvas in the ritual known as 'midnight movies in the park".

Ahhhh, nature, I love it like I love life itself...

David Jamieson
02-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Traversing the swirling masses of the 'heard' as I ply my way back and forth on the black pathways I follow daily going out to harvest the resources to feed the family.

Eating the bounty of the sea and the land, masterfully prepared by the hand of experts, and delivered to my table by beautiful virgins (a bloke can imagine, right?).

Drinking exotic brews resulting from centuries of experience, and bottled and preserved by armies of dedicated individuals.

Standing amongst the throng of my semi-naked brothers and sisters, as the ocean crashes and slides up and back across the sand.

Laying on the grass, under the stars and gum trees, amongst hundreds of my tribe, watching flickering lights on a massive canvas in the ritual known as 'midnight movies in the park".

Ahhhh, nature, I love it like I love life itself...

wait a minute, midnight movies are nature?

hmmn...i may change my opinion on the evil heartless and cruel biatch that nature is...