Kneeling in CMA?

[yutyeesam]

Are there any systems in CMA that does a series of leverage-oriented techniques specifically from a kneeling position, the way some Japanese systems do?

I know there are some squat stance techniques, but it seems like a lot of those are striking techniques?

The kneeling that I've seen are from arts like Combat Shuai Chiao where after you throw, you hold on to an arm, drop a knee down for an arm-bar...but that's more of a follow up.

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[MasterKiller]

Are there any systems in CMA that does a series of leverage-oriented techniques specifically from a kneeling position, the way some Japanese systems do?

I know there are some squat stance techniques, but it seems like a lot of those are striking techniques?

The kneeling that I've seen are from arts like Combat Shuai Chiao where after you throw, you hold on to an arm, drop a knee down for an arm-bar...but that's more of a follow up.

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Most of the knee-on-ground positions, at least in my style, are for reaping/hooking the leg for a takedown. The knee down is the end position after the throw.

[Drake]

CLF has a "kneeling" type of stance, the "" meaning that your knee doesn't actually touch the floor. It's just very close.

[yutyeesam]

Most of the knee-on-ground positions, at least in my style, are for reaping/hooking the leg for a takedown. The knee down is the end position after the throw.

Right on. I suppose the kneeling thing is purely a cultural thing on Japan's part, and they just incorporated that into their combat arts.

Seems like an effective method to learn some basic leverage oriented techniques for beginners without slamming the s**t out of each other.

[yutyeesam]

CLF has a "kneeling" type of stance, the "" meaning that your knee doesn't actually touch the floor. It's just very close.

Drake - in your line of CLF, do you guys do any type of throwing/takedown techniques from Lok Kwai Ma?

[hskwarrior]

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[yutyeesam]

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[David Jamieson]

We have no kneeling on the ground positions in any of the material I have learned.

we do have a stance where we are crouching somewhat, but never a knee on the ground.

[uki]

kneeling is nothing more than one of the three tiers... prone(ground), kneeling, and standing - best to be proficient in all of them to some degree. concepts to remember... transition from standing to kneeling, kneeling to standing, kneeling to prone(ground), prone to kneeling... then of course there is standing to prone and prone to standing. :)

[TenTigers]

practicing technique in seiza (kneeling position) allows you to develop higher skill and understanding by isolating your technique without compensating with footwork. You can also practice it seated in a chair. I would suggest anyone who practices cum-na/chin-na to do this.

[David Jamieson]

practicing technique in seiza (kneeling position) allows you to develop higher skill and understanding by isolating your technique without compensating with footwork. You can also practice it seated in a chair. I would suggest anyone who practices cum-na/chin-na to do this.

karate mixing? lol

[xcakid]

I have taken 3 different styles of CMA, 1 southern and 2 northern. I can speak for those and say that no, we did not have any kneeling position techniques.

[TenTigers]

karate mixing? lol
I studied Hakko-Ryu and Hapkido in my younger days, and everything gets absorbed into what I teach now. If there is a good method to get a student from point A to point B, I will use it.A joint is a joint, you can only bend it so many ways. Jiu Jutsu, Cum-Na, etc-it's all the same. The techniques I learned then are exactly the same as the ones my Sifu teaches me now.
"Tool is Tools."

[David Jamieson]

I studied Hakko-Ryu and Hapkido in my younger days, and everything gets absorbed into what I teach now. If there is a good method to get a student from point A to point B, I will use it.A joint is a joint, you can only bend it so many ways. Jiu Jutsu, Cum-Na, etc-it's all the same. The techniques I learned then are exactly the same as the ones my Sifu teaches me now.
"Tool is Tools."


That's cool. I do that as well.

[TenTigers]

I'm telling HW on youuuu!

[Yum Cha]

we have some techniques where you drop to one knee to strike or to reap a leg. Usually followed up by a quick return to the standing position.

Like a bounce down and up...a bit like a single leg takedown, kinda, sorta, well, not really...

[Drake]

I don't like the position of the head in relation to the opponent when kneeling. Too vulnerable, regardless of what targets are made available, if you ask me. There's other ways of hitting those areas without making yourself open for an instant loss.

[David Jamieson]

I'm telling HW on youuuu!

lol. no worries, I have that piece of ....work, on ignore.

He's the only guy I ignore here. And it's totally worth it! :p