to stand or to hop??

[uki]

when striking, it's quite obvious that our feet are usually connected to the ground during contact, yet how about adding a short hop to break connectivity to the ground instead?? (inflectional nature of yin/yang) everything is still held the same, save only for the momentary hop during the connecting of the strike... i am generally speaking of a horizontal elbow strike being done with a short hop - i have naturally incorporated it into my heavy bag form work.

i am curious to see what others have to say about this concept. :)

[Dragonzbane76]

superman punch concept??

[David Jamieson]

Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV5fAUCZKU

Good old GSP.

watch this guy. If you only watch one guy to get a grip on good mma standup, this is the guy to watch. :D (there's others, but this guy is a countryman of mine )

[taai gihk yahn]

Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV5fAUCZKU

Good old GSP.

watch this guy. If you only watch one guy to get a grip on good mma standup, this is the guy to watch. :D (there's others, but this guy is a countryman of mine )

yeppers; the man is the ideal - excellent all-around technician, excellent conditioning, excellent strategist; IMHO, pound-for-pound I'd say the best fighter out there;

[sanjuro_ronin]

Its the same concept pf "stomp" punching that some IMA use, you make contact at the moment or just before your lead foot ( sometimes BOTH feet) make contact with the ground, thus transfering ALL the kinetic energy to the target as opposed to "losing" some to the ground.

[taai gihk yahn]

come to think of it, when I studied TKD a million years ago, in my first school we had "flying punch" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL_7lIZxolA), a.k.a. "axe punch"

[sanjuro_ronin]

come to think of it, when I studied TKD a million years ago, in my first school we had "flying punch" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL_7lIZxolA), a.k.a. "axe punch"

The flying punch is "old TKD, while I don't think TKD invented it ( it may have, I don't know), the TKD gusy were doing it in the 60's and 70's.

[taai gihk yahn]

The flying punch is "old TKD, while I don't think TKD invented it ( it may have, I don't know), the TKD gusy were doing it in the 60's and 70's.

yeah, my first sabumnim was old school, pre-WTF; in retrospect, I think he wasn't too thrilled with towing the party line either, and taught us a lot of stuff that was not really in line with the standard curriculum;

as TKD inventing stuff, you DO know that it's a 3,000 year old art from which all other arts emerged, right? which makes sense, considering that 10,000 years ago Koreans went to China and invented Taoism (at least that was what the head of the Dahn Yoga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahn_yoga) system told me when I purely by chance happened to wander into the headquarters school in Sedona about 12 years ago...)

[sanjuro_ronin]

yeah, my first sabumnim was old school, pre-WTF; in retrospect, I think he wasn't too thrilled with towing the party line either, and taught us a lot of stuff that was not really in line with the standard curriculum;

as TKD inventing stuff, you DO know that it's a 3,000 year old art from which all other arts emerged, right? which makes sense, considering that 10,000 years ago Koreans went to China and invented Taoism (at least that was what the head of the Dahn Yoga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahn_yoga) system told me when I purely by chance happened to wander into the headquarters school in Sedona about 12 years ago...)

LMAO !!
Yeah, I remember that line !
I was a 3rd generation ITF guy ( Choi-Park-Hennings-me) to begin with but then I trained under Park and then Choi and his son for a couple of years.
I don;t think I ever saw them with a straight face when they tried to talk about that, LOL !
There is a book, Taekwondo, the killing art, that is very factual in regards to the early days of TKD and the internal politics of the ITF and WTF.

[TenTigers]

Buk Sing CLF and Jow Ga both have this strike. BSCLF calls it, Fei Charp Choy, and Jow Ga calls it the (flying?)Cougar Punch.
If you watch "Best of the Best," Dae Han drops his opponent with a flying punch, and continues walking, while laughing.Great scene.

(I do a (not really)great immitation from that film.
"It's my son, Coach!"
and,
"Coach! He's gonna kill'im!"
"NO..!"
(if you know the film, it's funny)

[sanjuro_ronin]

Buk Sing CLF and Jow Ga both have this strike. BSCLF calls it, Fei Charp Choy, and Jow Ga calls it the (flying?)Cougar Punch.
If you watch "Best of the Best," Dae Han drops his opponent with a flying punch, and continues walking, while laughing.Great scene.

(I do a (not really)great immitation from that film.
"It's my son, Coach!"
and,
"Coach! He's gonna kill'im!"
"NO..!"
(if you know the film, it's funny)

"Pop it Tommy, Pop it !!!!"

LOL !!

[Dragonzbane76]

funny scene from that movie.

They get into the bar fight.

There is a dude standing against the wall with a cigarett in his mouth. The one guy training for olympics kicks it out of his mouth.

Dude says: "impressive" with sarcasm.

anyways, i haven't watched that movie in years.

[goju]

yang jwing mings crane dvds have the hopping principle in their attacks as well

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://i29.tinypic.com/1060boy.jpg

[taai gihk yahn]

best line:

"This is the only thing I've ever been good at!!!"

(makes sense, 'cause ACTING sure ain't it...)

[taai gihk yahn]

(I do a (not really)great immitation from that film.
"It's my son, Coach!"
and,
"Coach! He's gonna kill'im!"
"NO..!"
(if you know the film, it's funny)

next year at Peninsula: no Grady imitation, no hung bao...:D:D:D

[Lucas]

ive found 'hop' attacks pretty much everywhere ive looked so far, to some degree or another....well, okay i dont remember seeing it in wingchun when i did that for a spell, but ya. i didnt train that for very long, so maybe i just didnt see it. lots of shuffling tho

[sanjuro_ronin]

best line:

"This is the only thing I've ever been good at!!!"

(makes sense, 'cause ACTING sure ain't it...)

BBBWWAHHHHH !!!!!!

http://cdn.complex.com/assets/images/Entertainment/Features/062008/kfc-best-of-the-best-420x420.jpg

[TenTigers]

next year at Peninsula: no Grady imitation, no hung bao...:D:D:D

"They took my thumb, Charlie!"


ok, not Grady, but Eric Roberts nonetheless.

[David Jamieson]

Eric Roberts has improved.

But the worst acting moment ever belongs and shall ever belong to Ryan O'neal with his ode to "oh man, oh god, oh man, oh god, etc etc"

see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg

incredibad!

[MasterKiller]

Eric Roberts has improved.

But the worst acting moment ever belongs and shall ever belong to Ryan O'neal with his ode to "oh man, oh god, oh man, oh god, etc etc"

see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg

incredibad!

I respectfully present "Garbage Day."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k&feature=related

[David Jamieson]

I respectfully present "Garbage Day."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k&feature=related

well, teh 80s was the decade of fail after all.

so, that is some good competition to be sure.

But Ryan...man...he's bad, real bad and he's known! He was Banging Farrah (rip).
I have no idea who chubby bob sagget look alike there is though. :D

[No_Know]

when striking, it's quite obvious that our feet are usually connected to the ground during contact, yet how about adding a short hop to break connectivity to the ground instead?? (inflectional nature of yin/yang) everything is still held the same, save only for the momentary hop during the connecting of the strike... i am generally speaking of a horizontal elbow strike being done with a short hop - i have naturally incorporated it into my heavy bag form work.

i am curious to see what others have to say about this concept. :)

I might wonder what function you're implimenting by breaking connectivity with the ground at the moment of the strike.

Shao-lin forms from the Wheel of Life performance seem to might have a technique of Connecting with the ground at the moment of Impact but breaking connectivity at impact is only for distance or visual/psychologicalstunning or deafening or deception...That's what it seems to do regardless of what you might like to think of it.
No_Know
No_Know

I think you might tear something because that maneuer stretches you to make. And without the regulation of a solid connectivity from which to stableize the reverberation if you connect of the resistance met .

No_Know

[No_Know]

Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlV5fAUCZKU

Good old GSP.

watch this guy. If you only watch one guy to get a grip on good mma standup, this is the guy to watch. :D (there's others, but this guy is a countryman of mine )

This guy went for deception. And moved the legto avoid telegraphing--wading opposed to stablizing.

Person seemed to make a point to not bob or shift height.

The leg in motion gave the internal resistance to feed (in essence) the punch motion.

No_Know

[No_Know]

yeah, my first sabumnim was old school, pre-WTF; in retrospect, I think he wasn't too thrilled with towing the party line either, and taught us a lot of stuff that was not really in line with the standard curriculum;

as TKD inventing stuff, you DO know that it's a 3,000 year old art from which all other arts emerged, right? which makes sense, considering that 10,000 years ago Koreans went to China and invented Taoism (at least that was what the head of the Dahn Yoga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahn_yoga) system told me when I purely by chance happened to wander into the headquarters school in Sedona about 12 years ago...)

Tae Kwon Do is at best about fifty (50) years old starting in the early 1960's, My Comprehend. -No_Know

The stuff that went into the formation of Tae Kwon Do as a compilation covering eons seems fine.-No_Know

4th paragraph 2nd line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tkd)

"...Separate from the various taekwondo organizations, there have been two general branches of taekwondo development: traditional and sport. The term "traditional taekwondo" typically refers to the martial art as it was established in the 1950s and 1960s in the South Korean military forces; in particular, the names and symbolism of the traditional patterns often refer to elements of Korean history. Sport taekwondo has evolved in the decades since then..."-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tkd


No_Know