mainland wing chun linage

[kung fu fighter]

anyone know which linage of wing chun is this http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=79386c13962f87f

[Hardwork108]

anyone know which linage of wing chun is this http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=79386c13962f87f

Very interesting. I practice a rich Mainland Chinese lineage of Wing Chun, but it is very different from the what is on the video clip. I have been told that there are at least 7 different lineages of Wing Chun in Mainland China, so I guess we need to keep an open mind and hope that we are exposed to much more Wing Chun than the one dimensional view we get from most (perhaps not all) of the commercialized franchises.

IMHO, the art that is generally commercialized as Wing Chun here in the West, is a very limited view of this rich art.

[LoneTiger108]

I find the opening salutation interesting, as it's similar to guys I have seen in Foshan.

As for the lineage, at this time I don't know but will fill you in if I find out! :)

[weakstudent]

anyone know which linage of wing chun is this http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=79386c13962f87f

hey did you check out chi sao video on that website, straight blasting, i love it

[YungChun]

hey did you check out chi sao video on that website, straight blasting, i love it

You mean this?
http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=ec0af81f5f865df

[LSWCTN1]

i've seen this before, and i think i want to say Yui Choi?

thats from memory, could be wrong!

[weakstudent]

You mean this?
http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=ec0af81f5f865df

no it was another one its outside and at night they got some sort of video thing covering one of the guys faces, but it was pretty much the same as the one you found, straight punching no rolling as i saw it.

[CFT]

Thought I'd seen that carpet before :)

Here is a youtube clip that compares Chum Kiu form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNm8HW8mL5c

Still no idea what the lineages are though.

[LoneTiger108]

i've seen this before, and i think i want to say Yui Choi?

thats from memory, could be wrong!

I'm not sure, but we filmed Mak Yiu Mings students in China at the Ip Man Tong Opening and their Chum Kiu is the same. Cheung Bo Lineage I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZc0Lyw385U

[Paul T England]

Its not a line i have seen before....at least not a core form...

It looks to me to have other styles mixed in, family hung kuen, pak mei or maybe southern mantis.

Paul
www.moifa.co.uk

[imperialtaichi]

You mean this?
http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=ec0af81f5f865df

The Chinese guy should focus less on striking, and more on controlling the American guy's "structure and momentum." 跟手管勢破勢。

[Shadow_warrior8]

its chan yu ming lineage, via chan wah shun also called shunde wingchun because it comes from Shunde Guangzhou.

Can tell by their salutation and their movements, has hong kuen elements outside of the 3 sets of traditional wingchun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuiyo-hEDfU

Mak Yu Ming lineage has similar opening as Yuen Kay San, Sum Nung

Some info
The Lineage head, Chan Yu Min (陳汝棉) was the son of Chan Wah Shun (陳華順). He is the teacher of the renowned Grandmaster, Yip Man, who is the very teacher of Bruce Lee of international fame. Chan Yu Min taught to his 3 sons, Chan Kar Chai (陳家齊), Chan Kar Lim (陳家廉) and Chan Kar Sun(陳家燊). My Sifu's sifu, is the Kung Fu descendent of Chan Kar Lim and Chan Kar Sun .

[SAAMAG]

anyone know which linage of wing chun is this http://ph8tel.com/watch_video.php?v=79386c13962f87f

I'm haven't read the thread, so forgive me if this has already been established....it's obviously not HK wing chun. I like it though, it's more kung fooey. I wish there was more wing chun like this in the states. Perhaps some of us should go and study abroad for a while to bring some of it back here?!

[YungChun]

The Chinese guy should focus less on striking, and more on controlling the American guy's "structure and momentum." 跟手管勢破勢。

That's low level stuff IMO...

[imperialtaichi]

That's low level stuff IMO...
Can you expand on that?

[ph8tel]

I just stumbled upon this forum. It is nice to see that you are discussing my videos. One of them was from mainland China in a great Lion Dance and Kung Fu city called Fat San. I have a lot more that I did not put onto youtube. I have filmed many different Wing Chun styles around the world. I do not claim that these are the best sifus, I only present what I have seen. If you would like to see more of my HK and Mainland Wing Chun videos, please check out my site ph8tel.com . Feel free to leave a comment or uplaod your own videos.

Cheers,

ph8tel
http://ph8tel.com

[GeneChing]

Foshan, Bruce Lee’s ancestral home, dusts off kung fu heritage as it seeks to kick start tourism, services sectors (https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3126966/foshan-bruce-lees-ancestral-home-dusts-kung-fu-heritage-it)
The city is building a ‘kung fu town’ near Bruce Lee’s ancestral home in Shunde district, as well as a research institute and an experience and outreach centre
An important aspect of Foshan’s revitalisation plan will be the development of kung fu massage

Iris Ouyang
Published: 10:00am, 28 Mar, 2021

Nearly 50 years after his death, Bruce Lee’s martial arts and philosophy still influences lives
The city of Foshan in China’s southern Guangdong province is looking to revitalise kung fu as part of plans to develop its tourism and services sectors.
The city, which has been home to wing chun grandmaster Ip Man and the family of superstar Bruce Lee, also Ip Man’s most famous disciple, is building a 4.98 sq km “kung fu town” near Lee’s ancestral home in Shunde district, as well as a research institute and an experience and outreach centre.
An important aspect of this revitalisation will be the development of kung fu massage. This type of massage originated from the medical skills of kung fu masters, who were often injured and had a lot of experience in healing and curing themselves and others.
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Liang Xuyong during a kung fu massage lesson. Photo: Handout
“In the old days, you needed to learn kung fu for protection. But now … people care more about their health,” said Liang Xuyong, a fifth-generation disciple of the choy li fut style, as he explained the motivation behind the development of kung fu massage.
The kung fu revitalisation plan comes amid a push by Foshan, the third-largest economy in Guangdong, to upgrade and improve its industries. It is also expected to help kung fu proponents, who have struggled to adapt to a changing economic landscape, find a niche and make the martial arts more attractive to younger generations.
Liang is busy expanding his kung fu massage business. His company aims to open 60 centres in three years, especially since the coronavirus pandemic has increased awareness about health and wellness. He teaches massage techniques and choy li fut, and his current batch of students comes from as far away as Mexico.

“We can help our students start their own businesses,” he said, adding that they were operating four out of his six centres currently.

Foshan has more than 500 martial arts clubs that teach more than 50 variants. It was named “the City of Kung Fu” by the Chinese Wushu Association in 2004. The city invested 150 million yuan (US$22.9 million) on Bruce Lee Paradise, a 3,000 acre park that is also home to a 18.8 metre tall statue of the martial arts superstar. The park began operations in 2005.
Kung fu masters gathered in the city because of its well-established transport networks and robust economy. It was among the four most important commercial centres in China in the Ming and Qing dynasties together with Beijing, Suzhou and Wuhan in the northern, eastern and central regions, respectively, of the country.
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Dong Chonghua says Foshan’s revitalisation of kung fu means there are more opportunities for people interested in the martial arts. Photo: Handout
Dong Chonghua, a disciple of Ip Chun, the elder son of wing chun grandmaster Ip Man, said he felt the glory days of kung fu were making a comeback. A fan of Bruce Lee, he learned wing chun in Foshan after migrating from Fujiang province. Thanks to the new possibilities presented by the city’s revitalisation plan, he will now have more time to practice and teach kung fu, instead of working in a factory by day and practising and teaching by night.
“The government is devoting more resources to developing kung fu” and there are more opportunities for people interested in the martial arts, he said. “I hope to carry on the legacy of traditional kung fu,” Dong added.






Iris Ouyang

Iris Ouyang is a business reporter for the Post. She has reported in Washington D.C., Beijing, and Hong Kong in the past several years for both Chinese and international media organisations such as Caixin, Phoenix Finance, MNI, USA Today, MarketWatch and American Banker.

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