Ok I got a couple Kung Fu questions, hope you can help.

[Koontzy]

Ok I am new to the whole Kung Fu thing, but I have been fascinated by it for a long time, I rem watching alot of old Kung Fu flicks when I was a kid, and I still enjoy them and other fighting type movies (redbelt,fighting,never back down, karate kid ect..), anyways I have a few questions and hope you guys here can help:)

1. Me and my brother used to have a vhs that we bought at a yard sale for $1, it was a older king fu flick ( I believe made in the early 80's), we watched it so much that we ran the tape down. I have been trying to find a copy of this movie for a long time now, but havent yet. Heres what I remember. There is a older master and he has 3-4-maybe 5 pupils that he teaches differant styles. One is taught crane,one is tiger, one is dragon, and I belive there is one or two more, like snake and maybe another, maybe not. Their master is killed and they go on a revenge mission I believe. I cant rem much more than that one.

2. My favorite flick is still the Once Upon a time in China trilogy with Jet Li. I know Jet Li is a wushu master, but also would like to know what styles were mainly used in the movies? I understand it is a tale about a man names Wong Fei-Hung? Would like to know what Styles were used primarily in this series.

[TenTigers]

The "style" used in the Jet Li trilogy is contemprary wu-shu and movie choreography-nothing at all like the style Wong Fei-Hung actually did, which is Siu Lum Hung Kuen, more commonly known as Hung-Ga.
Pretty sad. All these movies about WFH, and none of them portray Hung Kuen. Even Jacky Chan is guilty of this.

[David Jamieson]

The "style" used in the Jet Li trilogy is contemprary wu-shu and movie choreography-nothing at all like the style Wong Fei-Hung actually did, which is Siu Lum Hung Kuen, more commonly known as Hung-Ga.
Pretty sad. All these movies about WFH, and none of them portray Hung Kuen. Even Jacky Chan is guilty of this.

lol, so true.

Mostly because Jet and Jackie tow the line...so to speak. :)

If you wanna see Hung Ga on film, you have to go back ****her into the black and white days of hk cinema and tv shows about wfh. then you'll see some actual hung ga.

Jet and Jackie play mostly opera style or outright prc wushu in jet's case and there is almost no traditional styles shown in any of their films with maybe a small glimpse here and there. Mostly movie fu though with a huge helping of commie useless wushu thrown in for flare.

am i bitter? I am made of bitter. :)

[Shaolindynasty]

Lau Ga Leung's movies from the 70's and 80's have quite a bit of hung ga in them

[lkfmdc]

Lau Ga Leung's movies from the 70's and 80's have quite a bit of hung ga in them

there is the world's biggest understatement! :p

[Scott R. Brown]

am i bitter? I am made of bitter. :)

Butter is good on toast!

[SPJ]

Ok I am new to the whole Kung Fu thing, but I have been fascinated by it for a long time, I rem watching alot of old Kung Fu flicks when I was a kid, and I still enjoy them and other fighting type movies (redbelt,fighting,never back down, karate kid ect..), anyways I have a few questions and hope you guys here can help:)

1. Me and my brother used to have a vhs that we bought at a yard sale for $1, it was a older king fu flick ( I believe made in the early 80's), we watched it so much that we ran the tape down. I have been trying to find a copy of this movie for a long time now, but havent yet. Heres what I remember. There is a older master and he has 3-4-maybe 5 pupils that he teaches differant styles. One is taught crane,one is tiger, one is dragon, and I belive there is one or two more, like snake and maybe another, maybe not. Their master is killed and they go on a revenge mission I believe. I cant rem much more than that one.

2. My favorite flick is still the Once Upon a time in China trilogy with Jet Li. I know Jet Li is a wushu master, but also would like to know what styles were mainly used in the movies? I understand it is a tale about a man names Wong Fei-Hung? Would like to know what Styles were used primarily in this series.

in the old kung fu flicks

they shared the same plot or story line. you or your family/school got hurt, you better your kung fu and revenge, final fight lasting longer. revenge is always bitter sweet.

this line of plot continued into Bruce Lee's flicks.

Jackie Chan around the same time, started to move away from this. more stunts, more comedies---

Jet Li somehow started in the "generic" movie story line.

re play the well know WFH

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nowadays, both Jet Li and Jackie Chan both play in hollywood.

they are pricey, now.

so you would see sammo hung (cheaper) start more in hong kong/china movie

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and there is the steven chow kung fu commedie and exaggeration out of this world.

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[SPJ]

in terms of kung fu flicks in 2010

vs kung fu flicks in the 60's and 70's.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt9cnNRCdsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pmwqDLxU0

vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReWfV0GsAjk

there are more "soul" in old kung fu flicks.

there are more "flashiness" in the nowadays kung fu flicks.

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[Lee Chiang Po]

During the Kung Fu craze of the 70's there were a lot of Chinese flicks dubbed into English. They rolled from one fight scene to the next, none stop. A nephew introduced me to them. My favorite guy was Superman Chu. Or was it Super manchu? Everyone appeared to be about 15 years old with lots of makeup, except for the bad guy, who seems to have always been middle aged.

[bawang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-WQO9shbA&feature=PlayList&p=CBCEA62FD16FE3B6&playnext_from=PL&playnext=2&index=11

good kung fu movie

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gq-Nxhlp48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B12PgKnqgGk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veok7pOO3N4&feature=related

this is a great movie.

JC was a sodier from liang kingdom. He captured the general from wei kingdom.

I got dvd yesterday.

absolutely love it.

:cool:

[Scott R. Brown]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gq-Nxhlp48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B12PgKnqgGk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veok7pOO3N4&feature=related

this is a great movie.

JC was a sodier from liang kingdom. He captured the general from wei kingdom.

I got dvd yesterday.

absolutely love it.

:cool:

Yes! A very cool movie!:)

[Northwind]

looks good & that's Jackie singing in the beginning too :P

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqBXeIN2Sfk&feature=related

theme song for people that are interested.

the movie was from JC for happy Chinese new year 2010.

:)

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMc6QsVQQ60&feature=related

JC talked about his messages from this movie in Germany.

:cool:

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7SR9gBj_js

happy year of the tiger show.

hu hu shen wei.

let the tiger in you show.

:)

[brothernumber9]

I have a movie like this. Was a SB re-release. The english title given was Shaolin Super Soldier. There was a traveling martial artist who would carry a sign stating something to the effect that he had the cure for bad kung fu. And would defeat those he thought unworthy and force them to close down.
An old master, who assumedly was not that bad at kung fu, and also a good person, was defeated and forced to close his school. He had 3 pupils who then left. The old master thought he had been abandoned, but instead the pupils vowed to go elsewhere to aquire new kung fu skills and return in 2-3 yrs and reclaim the honor of their school and sifu. This sounds the same?


1. Me and my brother used to have a vhs that we bought at a yard sale for $1, it was a older king fu flick ( I believe made in the early 80's), we watched it so much that we ran the tape down. I have been trying to find a copy of this movie for a long time now, but havent yet. Heres what I remember. There is a older master and he has 3-4-maybe 5 pupils that he teaches differant styles. One is taught crane,one is tiger, one is dragon, and I belive there is one or two more, like snake and maybe another, maybe not. Their master is killed and they go on a revenge mission I believe. I cant rem much more than that one.

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[sanjuro_ronin]

Some movies have "flashes" of "legit" kung fu moves from the styles they pretend to represent, Iron Monkey is a good example where Donnie Yen does some nice "tiger and crane" moves right out of the form.
You can't really ask for much more than that in a movie.

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw6bE80ajYQ&feature=related

:)

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw6bE80ajYQ&feature=related

:)

Sweet find dude, thanks.

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3_F5VLBVM

[Koontzy]

I have a movie like this. Was a SB re-release. The english title given was Shaolin Super Soldier. There was a traveling martial artist who would carry a sign stating something to the effect that he had the cure for bad kung fu. And would defeat those he thought unworthy and force them to close down.
An old master, who assumedly was not that bad at kung fu, and also a good person, was defeated and forced to close his school. He had 3 pupils who then left. The old master thought he had been abandoned, but instead the pupils vowed to go elsewhere to aquire new kung fu skills and return in 2-3 yrs and reclaim the honor of their school and sifu. This sounds the same?

Nope that isnt the movie I am thinking of....As I rem, they were at least 3-4 pupils. I remember one was Crane,One was snake, one was Tiger, I cant rem the other.

the bad guy was a older guy with long silver(white hair) and a long goatee, he fought a few guys on his way to killing these pupils master...Man I wish I could rem this movie, it was awsome.....

[David Jamieson]

Nope that isnt the movie I am thinking of....As I rem, they were at least 3-4 pupils. I remember one was Crane,One was snake, one was Tiger, I cant rem the other.

the bad guy was a older guy with long silver(white hair) and a long goatee, he fought a few guys on his way to killing these pupils master...Man I wish I could rem this movie, it was awsome.....

teh five animals of shaolin are:

Tiger/Leopard/Crane/Snake/Dragon

were these the names used? If so, I don't know.

But if it was Lizard/scorpion etc, then it sounds like Five Deadly Venoms is teh flick you're looking for and yeah, it's a great Chop Sockey spectacular! :D

[Lucas]

sounds like some shaolin disciples training to fight pai mei...

[Lucas]

sounds kind of like Executioners From Shaolin to me....but its been years, i dont remember how many people trained for revenge in Executioners From Shaolin....

kind of a re occuring kungfu theme....shaolin vs pai mei that is.

[Lucas]

hmm actually now that i think about it. that might not have been 5 students learning the 5 animals, it might have been one or maybe two guys training to revenge on pai mei..

[Koontzy]

teh five animals of shaolin are:

Tiger/Leopard/Crane/Snake/Dragon

were these the names used? If so, I don't know.

But if it was Lizard/scorpion etc, then it sounds like Five Deadly Venoms is teh flick you're looking for and yeah, it's a great Chop Sockey spectacular! :D


Yep it was those listed Tiger/Crane/dragon/snake and leapord...now all I gotta do is find the movie..

and it isnt executioners from shaolin

[David Jamieson]

good luck finding your movie.

really, this thread should be in the media forum though seeing as it is really about trying to find the name of this movie.

[CLFNole]

I have a movie like this. Was a SB re-release. The english title given was Shaolin Super Soldier. There was a traveling martial artist who would carry a sign stating something to the effect that he had the cure for bad kung fu. And would defeat those he thought unworthy and force them to close down.
An old master, who assumedly was not that bad at kung fu, and also a good person, was defeated and forced to close his school. He had 3 pupils who then left. The old master thought he had been abandoned, but instead the pupils vowed to go elsewhere to aquire new kung fu skills and return in 2-3 yrs and reclaim the honor of their school and sifu. This sounds the same?

The movie is called the Five Superfighters and was a Shaw Brothers movies with some lesser known stars one of which was Kara Hui Ying Hung's brother.

Regarding the original poster it is definately not a Shaw Brothers movie as there was never one where there were 5 students taught 5 animal styles.

[Jimbo]

Some movies have "flashes" of "legit" kung fu moves from the styles they pretend to represent, Iron Monkey is a good example where Donnie Yen does some nice "tiger and crane" moves right out of the form.
You can't really ask for much more than that in a movie.

Here's a couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZJe1OQmOqk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBttIUDOLDU&feature=related

[sanjuro_ronin]

Here's a couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZJe1OQmOqk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBttIUDOLDU&feature=related

Cool, never seen the Iron wire done in a movie before, nice :)