What do you like about Tai Chi fist

[SPJ]

instead of arguing back and forth

what tai chi is

and what tai chi is not.

so you learn and practice some tai chi.

what you like about it?

why you like about it?

:)

[SPJ]

I will start.

I like to idea of following or sui.

In tai chi, you are following the opponent's force and posture for the most part.

toward the end of his force and posture

you then start your own force and posture.

however, in theory it sounds fine and dandy

in practice, it is not that easy to do.

thus we have push hands drills

1. fixed step, we are following arms and wrist movement

2. random step or huo bu tui shu we are following steps and postures

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so if you do not know push hand

you probably do not know tai chi fist.

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[Eugene]

Hi SPJ,

I found this an interesting topic, I also practice tai chi, but we do not do pushing hands. Ive seen many schools with all kind of different training scheduals.

Does the tai chi fist has something to do with the internal movement of the fist ?

Has the pushing hands part always been into the Tai Chi scene ? I have seen Chen Man Ching do this but before this like ages ago.

Peace Eugene :)

[SPJ]

this is the thread

that every body may say whatever they like or dun like about tai chi.

I will sit back and read.

no comment from me.

I like the theory of tai chi

but the practice may be difficult to attain

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;)

[SPJ]

Hi SPJ,

I found this an interesting topic, I also practice tai chi, but we do not do pushing hands. Ive seen many schools with all kind of different training scheduals.

Does the tai chi fist has something to do with the internal movement of the fist ?

Has the pushing hands part always been into the Tai Chi scene ? I have seen Chen Man Ching do this but before this like ages ago.

Peace Eugene :)

yes. you may do other drills to practice 4 zheng or peng lu ji an

and 4 yu or cai lie zhou kao.

push hands may be good to sense or feel the interaction of jin from you and your practice partner.

i think the pushhand drills were introduced by yang jian hou.

but I am not a yang stylist. other in the forum may know more.

yang jian hou also modified yang tai chi to be easier for people that practice tai chi for health.

yang jian hou large frame that is.

:cool:

[SPJ]

push hand drills are also good for practicing your lower leg strength

stepping and posturing

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:)

[Bob Ashmore]

I like that KC Elbows is always right.
It comforts me.

Oh, you asked about Tai Chi fist.
Never mind....
:p

[KC Elbows]

I like that KC Elbows is always right.
It comforts me.

Oh, you asked about Tai Chi fist.
Never mind....
:p

Bob Ashmore is correct.

I like taiji practices that focus so much on what is implied about the other guy in the moves. It is not imposing against a force that cannot resist, but answers and responses to what is there.

Connected to that(pun intended), I like the focus on infinitessimally small interactions between the two, between the two and gravity, the tree, the rock, etc, that produce meaningfully detailed yet energy economic body mechanics.

Thirdly, the rep. Say you're a taiji man, and the play you get. It's like being one of the Beastie Boys on tour.

[Scott R. Brown]

The best Tai Chi is always spelled TaiJi and has lots of insults included with belittling and argument about pointlessness things!

This proves kung fu and is mighty beyond all other forms of non-sense!

[charlyws]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSkujscyFVQ

is this taiji fist too?

for me taiji is taiji :D i don't how to describe it. rather just only talk better we practiced it :)

[uki]

i like the whole concept of doing forms in sloooooooooowwwwwww motion as a means of becoming more aware of your movements and to develop speed in a real situation. :)

[Scott R. Brown]

i like the whole concept of doing forms in sloooooooooowwwwwww motion as a means of becoming more aware of your movements and to develop speed in a real situation. :)

I agree, I am seldom impressed with fast forms.

[charlyws]

i like the whole concept of doing forms in sloooooooooowwwwwww motion as a means of becoming more aware of your movements and to develop speed in a real situation. :)


agree, in reality taiji is move so fast

[SPJ]

follow up on following or sui

1. we start with contact, stick, link and follow

zhan nian lian sui--

2. the key principles: do not lose contact, do not oppose.

bu diu bu ding

it is easy to say but not so easy to do

push hand drills really help us to do 1 and 2.

it is not perfect, but push hand drills are helpful.

for people not doing push hands--

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[kfson]

I like the possibility of little effort required for maximum benefit... with minimal injury.