Dude check it out -- rooting tables?!

[SAAMAG]

Rocking/Rooting tables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5JVhhePBA)

So the question is: do you feel they can actually increase one's ability to "root"?

[HumbleWCGuy]

I suppose that it teaches people something, but I doubt that it is very related to fighting.

[t_niehoff]

Rocking/Rooting tables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5JVhhePBA)

So the question is: do you feel they can actually increase one's ability to "root"?

"Rooting" is nonsense. So do you really want to increase your ability to perform nonsense?

[Tom Kagan]

Rocking/Rooting tables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5JVhhePBA)

So the question is: do you feel they can actually increase one's ability to "root"?

Disclaimer: I personally know the person who designed and built those rocking tables.

Although I have not used the actual rocking tables he has built, I have used a variety improvised tools to increase instability when trying to balance within the context of my training, rehabilitation, and just plain screwing around. My conclusion is those tables will work for their intended purpose of improving a person's dynamic balance.

Still, as some will argue, whether someone feels their intended purpose is useful or that there is a better way to acheive their intended purpose is another discussion entirely. :)

[HumbleWCGuy]

Rocking/Rooting tables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh5JVhhePBA)

So the question is: do you feel they can actually increase one's ability to "root"?

I am pretty sure that I did some sparring with one of his brown sashes. I didn't notice anything unique about his WC that I would attribute to rooting tables.

[YungChun]

"Rooting" is nonsense. So do you really want to increase your ability to perform nonsense?

Rooting is just the way some folks refer to ground connection.. So what?

[anerlich]

Lame. Indo boards would be cheaper and more challenging. All that bosu ball and instability stuff is questionable in any case.

Might be worth it if you're looking for a challenge match on rolling logs in the middle of a lake.


So do you really want to increase your ability to perform nonsense?

Producing nonsense on this forum seems to be your mission,T, maybe there's something there for you.

[Sardinkahnikov]

C'mon guys, stop being boring old bozos, these tables thingies look fun!

PS: The kung fu flick song playing the background is a nice touch, lol:rolleyes:

[k gledhill]

interesting...:D

[t_niehoff]

Rooting is just the way some folks refer to ground connection.. So what?

No, it is a way that some people theorize how they should be connected to the ground. And it is nonsense. It's one of those "concepts" that only interferes with your development.

[shawchemical]

No, it is a way that some people theorize how they should be connected to the ground. And it is nonsense. It's one of those "concepts" that only interferes with your development.

No, it simply refers to the connection to the ground to maximise effective strength.

It can be explained through direct manipulation of the centre of mass. Rooting is simply a piece of jargon which you're picking on.

The idea itself is not nonsense, but different groups can have different uses of language which is likely where the confusion arises.

[SAAMAG]

No, it is a way that some people theorize how they should be connected to the ground. And it is nonsense. It's one of those "concepts" that only interferes with your development.

I personally feel that it describes the way to maintain one's stance, balance, and power lines; because as we all know that one cannot be truly connected the ground.

The whole idea behind what you see with visualizing roots of a tree for example is because the mind uses imagery to lead the body. It is the most raw method of the mind-body connection. Mental words (thinking to yourself) came later and was a learned.

For example, when a baby doesn't want to be picked up, it somehow becomes heavier, and vice versa when it does want to be picked up. Did the baby think to itself "I don't want to be picked up"? No because it can't speak yet. Did the weight actually change? Nope. What the baby did was become dead weight so-to-speak using only its desire of knowing it wanted to be on the ground.

[k gledhill]

NY Rangers ice hockey team uses a swiss/gym ball to simply try and stand on for stabilizing exercises ...think it is a little harder than the 'rockers' , but same idea.
:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dngEImCV7ZI you can add this to it....

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbqIo-rNMgk&feature=related

and more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRFpPZCqbPw&feature=fvw

rolling jj training http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrm7h4biTaQ&feature=related

[shawchemical]

NY Rangers ice hockey team uses a swiss/gym ball to simply try and stand on for stabilizing exercises ...think it is a little harder than the 'rockers' , but same idea.
:D

exactly, because the ball has additional degrees of freedom for its movement.

On another note, T, this bear has better skills than you it would seem. And a similar proclivity for its foot to be in its mouth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghgg_fukbvU

[k gledhill]

personal trainers can easily add 'core/stability' work by simply asking the client to take one foot off the floor while doing cable tower workouts.

Old school VT as begginers we learned kicking and part of the training was that we stood on one leg for 3 minutes minimum. Adding one legged pushing the other guy standing on one leg trying to push you over using your lifted foot , while chasing after each other on one leg.......until one drops leg/loses balance...swap legs.

the one legged SLT , classic. need the entry level 3 min beginners do before this :D each arm should take 5 minutes minimum

i have to try SLT on a gym ball ;)....on one leg hah !! theres achallenge.


gives good balance control.


BTW the Bear isnt bad ; )

[anerlich]

Swiss balls are fun for BJJ-related exercises, though how good the skills transference is is debatable. Jeff Glover does some crazy stuff on it. I spent a fun filled few hours trying to emulate him, but the ball popped on me and I ended up suddenly sitting on the floor on a sheet of deflated plastic with some training buds laughing at me.

Better for keeping COG centred over imaginary opponent, though once again how well it translates into real BJJ is debatable.

Jeff Glover is a good fighter with a proven contest rep atinternational level, so I'm doing what good fighters do and advocate. No need for the self appointed forum police to attack me.

Standing on the ball might help with balance, but not with "rooting" IMO. A chi sao contest on a pair of Swiss balls would be a pretty short one :)

[MaikuB]

Lame. Indo boards would be cheaper and more challenging. All that bosu ball and instability stuff is questionable in any case.

I thought you would've commented about how us aussies don't need tables to help with rooting :P

[anerlich]

I thought you would've commented about how us aussies don't need tables to help with rooting :P

It had crossed my mind :)

[sanjuro_ronin]

The best tool to develop any skill in a physical endevour is THAT physical endevour.
Anything beyond that is just "fun" and "window dressing".
Sure using supplementary exercises can have SOME cross over, but again, the more realted the exercise the better the cross over.