Why I support a New World Order

[David Jamieson]

Yep, that's right, I'm for it. 100%

I want to see global accountability and responsible use of resources.
I want to see energy resources governed effectively and appropriately and I want to see less war, less hunger and less strife in the world.

I believe that the longer we as a species separate ourselves with national constructs is the longer we remain un-evolved. We need to take these steps forward as steps were taken forward in creating the New World!

You ever wonder why they call it the new world? Wonder why there's no kings and queens in the new world? no fifedoms, no earldoms, no nobility and other such artificial social constructs?

think about it. It's not some cabal to enslave you, it's a plan to take humanity forward and to carefully go about that change so that we can have an entire world that is safe and clean. There are hurdles of course and there will be stumbles as well. It's a big plan after all.

I find that most people who resist this change are for the most part uneducated about what the "G" countries are doing and why.

I find that a lot of tin foil hat wearers lose focus and make absurd connections. I attribute this to a poor education and poor analytical skills which seem to be rampant in some places.

There is a lot of us vs them going on, but if you look at where it starts, where it is and where it's going, I personally am excited about getting there.

take that tinfoil hat wearers! lol :p

[Lucas]

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[1bad65]

You ever wonder why they call it the new world? Wonder why there's no kings and queens in the new world? no fifedoms, no earldoms, no nobility and other such artificial social constructs?

And yet you vote for politicians wanting more Government and more Government power. And you speak out against those calling for less Government and for more personal freedoms.

Which one is the real you? :confused:

[Lucas]

we all live in the hulkisphere

[sanjuro_ronin]

What is this world coming to?
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/stormtrooper%20babe.jpg

[Lucas]

ya, in my day, storm troopers werent allowed belly tats...the empire is slipping

[David Jamieson]

And yet you vote for politicians wanting more Government and more Government power. And you speak out against those calling for less Government and for more personal freedoms.

Which one is the real you? :confused:

what the hell are you talking about?

I'm 46 years old. Colour me conservative! lol.

However, I am not the crazy right wing nut job neo-con type of conservative as is found in the states. Those guys aren't conservatives (as demonstrated by the last president) tHey are just haters and warmongers paying off pals in oil and military industrial complex.

Real conservatism is not what the US has anymore. I mean, maybe, but for the most part they are pretty confused about what it entails.

I mean come on. lol

Fiscal responsibility, moderate taxation, capitalism and a fair social order. That's my flavour of conservative, not some moon bat crazy interpretation of the world.

But when it comes right down to it, I am nothing. I am more and more seeing that the whole idea of division of politics is a construct that is only used to divide and conquer.

It doesn't actually have value philosophically speaking anymore.

action is infinitely more useful than any amount of words, written or spoken. :)

[1bad65]

Fiscal responsibility, moderate taxation, capitalism and a fair social order. That's my flavour of conservative, not some moon bat crazy interpretation of the world.

So Obama is 0-4 in what you look for in a politician, yet you defend him. :confused:

[Dragonzbane76]

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[mooyingmantis]

And yet you vote for politicians wanting more Government and more Government power. And you speak out against those calling for less Government and for more personal freedoms.

Which one is the real you? :confused:

But that is what the New World Order is all about. We sheep couldn't possibly function without the Gov't thinking for us. :eek:
So turn off your brain, abandon personal responsibility, press your lips firmly against the Gov't tit and follow David into the New World Order.

[David Jamieson]

But that is what the New World Order is all about. We sheep couldn't possibly function without the Gov't thinking for us. :eek:
So turn off your brain, abandon personal responsibility, press your lips firmly against the Gov't tit and follow David into the New World Order.

lol. The only constant is change really isn't it? What world would you rather live in? War and dystopia followed by more war and dystopia or take a chance on a broader more peaceful existance.

Would you agree that having leadership and vision and coupling those with determinate action is key in bringing order to anything?

If so, you understand the requirement for mechanisms by which order is built and maintained and used to serve those who create it?

Following that you can create an environment, or it can be hoped, that you do whereby people take on full accountability and responsibility for their actions as an individual. Order in each instead of order imposed.

Looking at where we are now, and pondering where we are going,are you alright with the status quo? Do you think that Obama in his one year and some in office brought us to where we are now as far as "G" countries go? And I only ask to make a point to 1bad really.

Do you think massive social change can occur overnight or is there somewhat of a struggle to get there? Historically speaking, you're probably well versed in your own country's civil rights movement. Did that happen overnight? Was there a need for government response and action in order to create the law by which we basically agree to abide?

And finally. What can you realistically put forth as a plan to bring order, rights and freedoms to everyone born to this earth?

[David Jamieson]

And I know that my signature completely distracts from the point. But I'm keeping it for a while because I think it's funny. :D

[mawali]

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This is definately a New World Order that has bypassed me! sup wit dat!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Ah Jack, turning women into ****s since it's inception !

[1bad65]

lol. The only constant is change really isn't it? What world would you rather live in? War and dystopia followed by more war and dystopia or take a chance on a broader more peaceful existance.

This country has only been around a little over 200 years. Look at all the coutries who have been around hundreds of years before us, yet we are the richest country in the world (although China will soon pass us since they have moved to more capitalism while we've moved to more socialism).

We didn't become the country people are literally dying to get into because of Government, we became that country because of our people. Don't ever forget that.


Would you agree that having leadership and vision and coupling those with determinate action is key in bringing order to anything?

If so, you understand the requirement for mechanisms by which order is built and maintained and used to serve those who create it?

You mention "order" alot. So did Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin. Think about that now...


Looking at where we are now, and pondering where we are going,are you alright with the status quo? Do you think that Obama in his one year and some in office brought us to where we are now as far as "G" countries go? And I only ask to make a point to 1bad really.

The status quo must change, but not in the way you say. We must get our entitlements under control, and fast. If things continue at this rate, children born here right now will have to pay 70% of their income in taxes to keep the economy going. That's a just small step above slavery, imo.


And finally. What can you realistically put forth as a plan to bring order, rights and freedoms to everyone born to this earth?

Have their countries adopt Constitutions similar to ours. Like I said, it only took us 200 years to sail past every other country on earth, and some of those countries had over 500 years jump on us.

Emulate success, not failure.

[Drake]

Don't confuse our economic schema with our success. Don't forget that we were pretty much the only advanced nation that did not suffer devastating urban destruction due to WWI and WWII. Only after those wars did we come out ahead, as all of our competitors' infrastructures were devastated. We were lagging behind Europe prior to that.

Free markets helped us, true, but it wasn't the significant factor in our success as a nation.

[David Jamieson]

Don't confuse our economic schema with our success. Don't forget that we were pretty much the only advanced nation that did not suffer devastating urban destruction due to WWI and WWII. Only after those wars did we come out ahead, as all of our competitors' infrastructures were devastated. We were lagging behind Europe prior to that.

Free markets helped us, true, but it wasn't the significant factor in our success as a nation.

what about Canada? Brazil? Switzerland? Australia?...and a cast of others.

I know Europe took the brunt of the city damage, but there were places that weren't touched but were involved in the war and america was only one of them.

[Drake]

what about Canada? Brazil? Switzerland? Australia?...and a cast of others.

I know Europe took the brunt of the city damage, but there were places that weren't touched but were involved in the war and america was only one of them.

I said "advanced".

[Hardwork108]

Yep, that's right, I'm for it. 100%
You really need to educate yourself, IMHO.


I want to see global accountability and responsible use of resources.
I want to see energy resources governed effectively and appropriately
Who makes those rules? Who decides on the governance?

I ask because if the European Community, one of the major steps towards NWO, does not function like that. Sovereign nations have been coaxed into giving away their decision making to unelected bureaucrats sitting in Brussels. So, suddenly everyone has to pay new taxes; follow regulations, and pay fines, etc. on the whim of these unelected officials.

Does that that kind of political evolution seem like we are heading for a free and just world to you?



and I want to see less war, less hunger and less strife in the world.
I hate to break this to you but the propents of the New World Order have included some of the biggest war criminals and mass murderers of the last century and this one!

See, Henry Kissinger, the Clintons and the Bushes, in the US. Europe has others!
These are the people whose NWO agenda is being implemented now. They have used wars, false flag operations, global cons, such as "Global Warming" and "pandemic threats", to push nations towards global government.

Do you think that if a Global Government is established these criminals and thieves are going to turn around and say, "lets be nice to the masses, from now on"? Are you that naive?

You don't really do any research, do you?


I believe that the longer we as a species separate ourselves with national constructs is the longer we remain un-evolved. We need to take these steps forward as steps were taken forward in creating the New World!

Ok, I will admit that the idea has some appeal to it, but I believe that we as species can also maintain our national identities and borders, while also maintaining friendly and constructive relationships with other sovereign nations. Of course, this becomes easier when you don't have the intelligence agencies of third parties stirring up problems between nations, in order for their nations to make a profit selling arms and enslaving warring nations in debt.....;)


You ever wonder why they call it the new world?
They call it "new world", because it is THEIR new world. The masses wil continue to be treated with contempt, just as they are now, but they will be able to do less about it, as all freedoms are being eroded gradually, but surely, as we speak. Or haven't you even noticed that?


Wonder why there's no kings and queens in the new world? no fifedoms, no earldoms, no nobility and other such artificial social constructs?
Oh, yes there are.....LOL

Do your research, kiddo!


think about it. It's not some cabal to enslave you, it's a plan to take humanity forward and to carefully go about that change so that we can have an entire world that is safe and clean.
Let me get this right. The proponents of the New World Order, created the artificial War on Drugs (while they are in that business, up to their necks!); created, "The War on Terrorism" (while they were and are behind the false flag terrorist acts that they are protecting us from); created the "Global Warming" scam, to tax and control every aspect of our lives; created the the NONE-EXISTANT "pandemic threats" (read: scams), so as to force vaccinate people (more global regulations), dragged the Western Nations into illegal wars (mass murder) and LOOTING, yet you believe that these same people are taking us towards a "safe" and "clean" world, that is going to be just and democratic? LOL!

By the way, don't you even believe for one minute that the current economic crisis happened because the banks "made a mistake"!

This is how the scam has worked. For decades problems (wars, terrorism, famines, high crime and general instability) have been created by the same people who have offered us their solutions, with the FINAL SOLUTION, being the NEW WORLD ORDER - world government owned lock, stock and barrel by the same criminals that are traumatizing (and brain washing) the masses into accepting it as their salvation.

Most of the suffering and misery of the last and this century has been caused by the same people who are proponents of the New World Order and they have carried out those criminal acts within an agenda to implement that same New World Order (and for them and their masters to control global wealth of course)!

These same people are eroding our rights as citizens using the same old scare tactics - "terrorists", "global warming", "pandemic threats", "war on drugs", not to mention the artificially created economic crisis!

People are less free than they were 20-30 years ago. So, does it still look like we are heading for a just and free world?

And do you still think that we are heading for a better world? Run by Arms runners, drugs runners, murderers and thieves? Because, that is what they are and nothing else!!!!


There are hurdles of course and there will be stumbles as well. It's a big plan after all.
Oh yes there are hurdles, because despite decades of dumbing down through the media, medicine, drugs and food additives, many people are waking up and seeing this scam for what it is, and recognizing the murderous criminals who are behind it.

So, I guess there may be hope for you to wake up as well....


I find that most people who resist this change are for the most part uneducated about what the "G" countries are doing and why.
Perhaps you are the one who needs educating about the HISTORY and MORALITY of the G countries?


I find that a lot of tin foil hat wearers lose focus and make absurd connections. I attribute this to a poor education and poor analytical skills which seem to be rampant in some places.
Until reading your post, I did not consider Canada to be one of these places you speak of.....

By the way, there is a difference between good education and "good" indoctrination! ;)

If you take your pseudo-intellectual head out of your asss, then it may be the beginning of your awakening.........


There is a lot of us vs them going on, but if you look at where it starts,

It starts with war and mayhem (inhuman and criminal acts) created by those same people who are currently implementing the New World Order (as a "solution").

I keep repeating this, because now that I have bothered to answer, then I might just as well attempt to educate you the best I can!



where it is
It, or more correctly the SCAM, is in the open now and one can only hope that it falls apart and the people behind it to be brought to justice.


and where it's going,

We don't know where it is going yet, but I hope that it goes to the toilet hole of history where it belongs!

Countries should disconnect their artificially created interdependence and function as separate entities. Nations can have friendly trade agreements without having their borders eroded. Countries should get rid of their PRIVATELY owned central banks who are connected to each other globally.

Yes, they function as cartels and their owners enjoy immense influence on sovereign nations! They are the real power structure behind the governments and they will be sitting on the top of the power pyramid in your beloved New World Order!


I personally am excited about getting there.

You know, blind supporters like you are the first people to be "wacked" if the "revolution" you support succeeds. That is because blind,yet do-gooder ideologists such as yourself, do eventually wake up to the real agenda and start causing problems for their masters. So, usually they are "done with" if after the revolution succeeds.....

The problem with you is that you do no research. You take the fantasy version and limit your "research" to it and then come up and make an irresponsible post such as the one you made to start this thread.

This type of behavior, specially regarding a serious subject matter sucha s this one, does not reflect well on your intelligence. So, do some research and don't just discount information that takes you out of your comfort zone.

OPEN YOUR MIND and see the big picture!

[David Jamieson]

I said "advanced".

:rolleyes: How provincial of you.

I guess you aren't actually too well educated about the world in ww2 or post ww2?
or you're just being facetious for the sake of it.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I think you guys REALLY NEED to get laid.

[Yao Sing]

I would support a world government if it was based on the United States Constitution. I DO NOT support the criminal enterprise currently attempting to sieze control of the world.

[Dragonzbane76]

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[Drake]

:rolleyes: How provincial of you.

I guess you aren't actually too well educated about the world in ww2 or post ww2?
or you're just being facetious for the sake of it.

Are you going to suggest the nations you listed were "advanced" prior to or during WWII or WWI?

You resort to insults to reinforce your point? Weak.

[1bad65]

I would support a world government if it was based on the United States Constitution. I DO NOT support the criminal enterprise currently attempting to sieze control of the world.

Of course.

But instead of using the document that created the greatest, richest, most powerful nation on Earth, they despise that document and want to use socialism as the blueprint.

[1bad65]

You resort to insults to reinforce your point? Weak.

Par for the course with him. At least he changed playbooks and didn't just call you a racist. :rolleyes:

[Lucas]

if you google hulkisphere this thread is #1 hit.

:D

[Hardwork108]

lol. The only constant is change really isn't it? What world would you rather live in? War and dystopia followed by more war and dystopia or take a chance on a broader more peaceful existance.

Would you agree that having leadership and vision and coupling those with determinate action is key in bringing order to anything?

If so, you understand the requirement for mechanisms by which order is built and maintained and used to serve those who create it?

Following that you can create an environment, or it can be hoped, that you do whereby people take on full accountability and responsibility for their actions as an individual. Order in each instead of order imposed.

Looking at where we are now, and pondering where we are going,are you alright with the status quo? Do you think that Obama in his one year and some in office brought us to where we are now as far as "G" countries go? And I only ask to make a point to 1bad really.

Do you think massive social change can occur overnight or is there somewhat of a struggle to get there? Historically speaking, you're probably well versed in your own country's civil rights movement. Did that happen overnight? Was there a need for government response and action in order to create the law by which we basically agree to abide?

And finally. What can you realistically put forth as a plan to bring order, rights and freedoms to everyone born to this earth?

Seriously, are consuming some illegal narcotics????? You seem to be blind as a bat as far as the real world is concerned.

You look, but only see what you want to see.....

[Dragonzbane76]

hey david since you can't read HIS comments, douchbag wrote a book that you can't see. GRATS

[David Jamieson]

Are you going to suggest the nations you listed were "advanced" prior to or during WWII or WWI?

You resort to insults to reinforce your point? Weak.

Dude. You are saying that those countries weren't advanced?

they were industrialized and by 1945 Canada had the third largest and most powerful navy on the planet next to UK and US.

The other countries I mentioned were no less.

Sorry, I am not insulting you, I am saying you need to educate yourself if you think the USA was the be all and end all of ww2. Russia was advanced as well, how about them?

I mean, America got into the war late due to lots of circumstances. A HUGE ECONOMIC DEPRESSION not being the least of them. :rolleyes:

Your resorting to flag waving while chanting usa usa usa doesn't actually change history you know. lol

[Hardwork108]

I would support a world government if it was based on the United States Constitution. I DO NOT support the criminal enterprise currently attempting to sieze control of the world.

I guess it might even be better and safer, if independent governments adopted the US Constitution or at least used the same ideas/approach, for their own individual constitutions. This would ensure that all countries would maintain their own cultural identities in a world system that allowed "free" interaction between different nations without the comprise of their borders or their national identities.

[Drake]

Except for the Bill of Rights, the Constitution is tailored toward an American way of life, and probably wouldn't be terribly compatible with a number of cultures. Im against forcing our culture on others, because for one, it's ours. Secondly, it doesn't work well for everyone. We learned that in Iraq, and we are learning it in Afghanistan.

I'm all for a smaller government influence, but honestly, we see what happens when we let businesses run rampant. The damage they can cause to the country exceeds their freedom to do whatever they like, when they adversely affect resources, employment, and cause entire chunks of the economy to melt down due to being left unchecked.

There simply must be some degree of oversight, because we are seeing time and time again that they can't follow the rules.

And while it's my job... we could probably use a smaller military. The Cold War is over. We should follow the British model of having a small but expandable counterinsurgency force. Would save oodles of money.

[1bad65]

they were industrialized and by 1945 Canada had the third largest and most powerful navy on the planet next to UK and US.

Only because the Allies destroyed the Japanese, Italian, and German navies. What was your rank prior to WWII?

[1bad65]

I'm all for a smaller government influence, but honestly, we see what happens when we let businesses run rampant. The damage they can cause to the country exceeds their freedom to do whatever they like, when they adversely affect resources, employment, and cause entire chunks of the economy to melt down due to being left unchecked.

Actually capitalism solved it's own problem, unions were created. Of course once Government got involved and sided with the unions, they became powerful enough to bankrupt 2 of the Big 3 automakers. In short, capitalism had everything running just fine until Government showed up and butted in.

[David Jamieson]

Only because the Allies destroyed the Japanese, Italian, and German navies. What was your rank prior to WWII?

your ignorance knows no bounds it would seem. who the f do you think the allies were ?

you do realize that canada was in fronm the get go and the us was in 2 years after that right? and why would we need a huge navy without such a war at hand. after the war we decommissioned plenty fo ships.

by the way, what navies do you think were involved in the destruction of the axis anyway.

such an ass. :rolleyes:

[1bad65]

your ignorance knows no bounds it would seem. who the f do you think the allies were ?

you do realize that canada was in fronm the get go and the us was in 2 years after that right? and why would we need a huge navy without such a war at hand. after the war we decommissioned plenty fo ships.

by the way, what navies do you think were involved in the destruction of the axis anyway.

such an ass. :rolleyes:

You can't read or comprehend English too well, can you?

I simply asked what their rank was before the war. And you didn't answer it.

Also, at no time did I demean Canada's sacrifices to the Aliied cause in WWII either, so don't act like I did.

As for needing a strong navy before the war, it's called deterrence. Had our navy been stronger, the Japanese would not have attacked us in late 1941.

[David Jamieson]

You can't read or comprehend English too well, can you?

I simply asked what their rank was before the war. And you didn't answer it.

Also, at no time did I demean Canada's sacrifices to the Aliied cause in WWII either, so don't act like I did.

As for needing a strong navy before the war, it's called deterrence. Had our navy been stronger, the Japanese would not have attacked us in late 1941.

post ww1 pre ww2 #1 with our UK connection. :) #3 follow ww2 and then decommissioning began.

what was the us rank before their civil war? after? how about 1779? where was the army at then?

I use the point to illustrate, not to continue to argue some small minutia with you and your flag waving patriotic pan rattling. lol

also, yes you did and you do demean pretty much everyone, but you fail to recognize it because of your ignorance and belligerent attitude towards anything that is not american and in particular texan. lol


your last point is hypothetical and is neither true or not true. It simply never was and can't be postulated with any value at all in this time.

[MasterKiller]

Had our navy been stronger, the Japanese would not have attacked us in late 1941.

WTF? The whole reason they sneak attacked us was because of fears we would use our fleets to interfere in their SE Asia campaign.

[1bad65]

WTF? The whole reason they sneak attacked us was because of fears we would use our fleets to interfere in their SE Asia campaign.

True. But they admitted they had to do it before 1943. FDR had embarked on plans to vastly increase our Navy, but most of those ships would not be complete until 1943-4.

Japan had more carriers, more naval and army aircraft, more battleships, more cruisers, and a larger Army than we did before Dec 1941.

[David Jamieson]

True. But they admitted they had to do it before 1943. FDR had embarked on plans to vastly increase our Navy, but most of those ships would not be complete until 1943-4.

Japan had more carriers, more naval and army aircraft, more battleships, more cruisers, and a larger Army than we did before Dec 1941.

to complete a ship by 43- 44 you would have to start building it a long time before.

Also the Japanese had more stuff because they had been at war for more than 5 years prior to America getting involved. They attacked China in the 30's and were trying to take over all of south east asia.

the saving grace of the American Navy in ww2 was carriers and air power. It also changed the US warfighter tactics right up to today in that regards.

Naval power moves in and unleashes air power followed by ground forces. It's a well used and effective strategy and tactic.

[1bad65]

to complete a ship by 43- 44 you would have to start building it a long time before.

Which is what I said.

My point was the Japanese rolled the dice and attacked us hoping we would sue for peace before we outproduced them. Had we been strong already, they never would have attacked us.


Also the Japanese had more stuff because they had been at war for more than 5 years prior to America getting involved. They attacked China in the 30's and were trying to take over all of south east asia.

True, but they built their navy during that time with the objective to beat the US and the UK in a Pacific naval war.

Neither China nor any other coutry in SE Asia had a navy of any importance. They knew this, but were planning on having to fight the US, the UK, and Australia's navies.


the saving grace of the American Navy in ww2 was carriers and air power. It also changed the US warfighter tactics right up to today in that regards.

Naval power moves in and unleashes air power followed by ground forces. It's a well used and effective strategy and tactic.

True.

Of course the fact that we learned this 'on the fly' and in the middle of a war we were not prepared to fight shows the greatness of our country and our people.

[dimethylsea]

After decades of being threatened with cages and being dragged into wars of course we'd rather deal with socialists than the militarist-fundy-corporates.

Bring on the New World Order. Maybe then we could get out into cislunar in force then. Best thing for the species is to make the Earth a nice tame well kept garden and send all the dissidents, crazies and wave-makers out into the void.