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Mr Punch
07-04-2010, 05:04 PM
This guy should have watched fewer movies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/04/suspect-raoul-thomas-moat-gateshead-shootings

Yao Sing
07-04-2010, 05:19 PM
The article you listed said the Karate instructor was killed by his girlfriend's ex who is still on the run.

Mr Punch
07-04-2010, 05:24 PM
Well done.

Read it again.

taai gihk yahn
07-04-2010, 05:35 PM
The article you listed said the Karate instructor was killed by his girlfriend's ex who is still on the run.

yes, he ran outside of the house to engage after the guy after he had already fired a shot into the house striking his ex-GF; definitely gets a Darwin for that...

sholo86
07-05-2010, 11:08 AM
As a martial artist, he should have known not to confront a deranged person with a gun...especially when he already demonstrated that he was there to use it.

It's always good to keep your presence-of-mind during confrontational situations like these and keep your emotions in check...

lkfmdc
07-05-2010, 11:10 AM
this is why I keep a crossbow in the house, and a catapult

taai gihk yahn
07-05-2010, 11:34 AM
this is why I keep a crossbow in the house, and a catapult

most people never get passed ur moat or giant three-headed dog for u to have to use them tho..

lkfmdc
07-05-2010, 11:35 AM
most people never get passed ur moat or giant three-headed dog for u to have to use them tho..

I just stand on the ramparts and **** in their general direction :D

taai gihk yahn
07-05-2010, 11:37 AM
I just stand on the ramparts and **** in their general direction :D

is that what is meant by "o'er the ramparts we watched, was so galantly steaming"?

lkfmdc
07-05-2010, 11:51 AM
fortunately, a moment of this was caught on film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

fopah
07-05-2010, 01:54 PM
his iron jacket training wasn't strong enough.

xcakid
07-05-2010, 02:18 PM
Good Martial Artist always carries a gun!! Why do people fail to practice this part. Martial Artist of old always carried a weapon of sorts. Yet today, people have this sense of over confidence at being able to beat people with their fist. :(

doug maverick
07-05-2010, 02:53 PM
This guy should have watched fewer movies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/04/suspect-raoul-thomas-moat-gateshead-shootings

ok read the article, he didnt kill himself i know what you were getting at, but how was this guy suppose to know the level of derangement he was getting himself into? so does this mean when you go out to confront someone no matter what you carry a gun on you? yeah cant wait to see the story of you being arrested for accidental discharge or god forbid accidental manslaughter.

David Jamieson
07-05-2010, 03:58 PM
Good Martial Artist always carries a gun!! Why do people fail to practice this part. Martial Artist of old always carried a weapon of sorts. Yet today, people have this sense of over confidence at being able to beat people with their fist. :(

well not every one lives where you can just carry a gun around like you're a cowboy.

That's pretty much the US and the third world really.
In the US it's because of the bill of rights and in the 3rd world it's because they have a lot of lawlessness and not very good government...wait... lol :p

Scott R. Brown
07-05-2010, 04:17 PM
Good Martial Artist always carries a gun!! Why do people fail to practice this part. Martial Artist of old always carried a weapon of sorts. Yet today, people have this sense of over confidence at being able to beat people with their fist. :(

Thank you.....I have been trying to tell this BB that very same thing for years, but people would rather pretend they are tough.

I have frequently mentioned a friend of my brother-in-law who was a former Army Ranger, bouncer and Kenpo black belt who was shot to death with a .32 cal pistol while trying to disarm his crazy ex-girl friend!

It doesn't take much to equalize, or defeat, 20 years or more of specialized training!


.....the level of derangement he was getting himself into? so does this mean when you go out to confront someone no matter what you carry a gun on you?

What you do is leave the area, through a back window if necessary, and call the police. Domestic disputes are the most dangerous! Passions run high on the part of all parties and unfortunate consequences are sure to follow.

Or you can risk getting injured, arrested or killed of course, all in the name of noble actions!

REAL men don't run away right?

Mr Punch
07-05-2010, 04:40 PM
ok read the article, he didnt kill himself i know what you were getting at, but how was this guy suppose to know the level of derangement he was getting himself into? so does this mean when you go out to confront someone no matter what you carry a gun on you? yeah cant wait to see the story of you being arrested for accidental discharge or god forbid accidental manslaughter.The bloke shot through his window and hit his girlfriend.

To me, this means you lock the doors and windows without giving him a second clear shot, arm yourself, and call the bizzies.

That you don't 'go out and confront' anyone with a gun (especially if he's already used it!) is the point, full stop... not even if you have one.

jmd161
07-05-2010, 05:08 PM
you don't 'go out and confront' anyone with a gun (especially if he's already used it!) is the point, full stop... not even if you have one.


Agreed!


You've got to be crazy going out to confront someone armed and you're unarmed... especially after this person has already fired into the house you were in. He's already proved he's willing to use it on his EX, so I'd say it's safe to say as his ex's new boy friend he'll shoot you as well!

ManilaCrane
07-05-2010, 05:33 PM
this is why I keep a crossbow in the house, and a catapult

lol its better to keep a chu ko nu instead loaded with pencils as ammo. lol an optional idea is to dip the tip of the pencils with pufferfish toxin :p

Jimbo
07-06-2010, 05:14 PM
Thank you.....I have been trying to tell this BB that very same thing for years, but people would rather pretend they are tough.

I have frequently mentioned a friend of my brother-in-law who was a former Army Ranger, bouncer and Kenpo black belt who was shot to death with a .32 cal pistol while trying to disarm his crazy ex-girl friend!

It doesn't take much to equalize, or defeat, 20 years or more of specialized training!



What you do is leave the area, through a back window if necessary, and call the police. Domestic disputes are the most dangerous! Passions run high on the part of all parties and unfortunate consequences are sure to follow.

Or you can risk getting injured, arrested or killed of course, all in the name of noble actions!



REAL men don't run away right?


I fully agree.
Back in the '90s, a childhood friend of mine, who was a cop, and his partner went to a domestic violence call, and as he walked up to the house, he was fatally shot by the husband. And he was just doing his duty! Getting involved in someone else's domestic dispute is one of the most dangerous situations you can find yourself in.

jmd161
07-06-2010, 09:58 PM
I fully agree.
Back in the '90s, a childhood friend of mine, who was a cop, and his partner went to a domestic violence call, and as he walked up to the house, he was fatally shot by the husband. And he was just doing his duty! Getting involved in someone else's domestic dispute is one of the most dangerous situations you can find yourself in.

I have friends that are cops and they all hate going to domestic violence calls...


A friend of mine a cop here gets a call with his partner. They get there and he says the wife was beat to crap! She's screaming get his ass out of here I want him out of here!

They go to handcuff the guy and she losses it!

All the sudden she has a change of heart and doesn't want him to go to jail. My friend explained the law that someone has to go once the police are called and there are injuries. They proceed to walk the guy out when the wife out of nowhere plunges a butcher knife into the back of his shoulder. He said the only thing that saved him was the vest he was wearing.:eek:

Iron_Eagle_76
07-07-2010, 05:41 AM
well not every one lives where you can just carry a gun around like you're a cowboy.

That's pretty much the US and the third world really.
In the US it's because of the bill of rights and in the 3rd world it's because they have a lot of lawlessness and not very good government...wait... lol :p

You limp noodles in Canada should take note:p

Becca
07-07-2010, 01:50 PM
ok read the article, he didnt kill himself i know what you were getting at, but how was this guy suppose to know the level of derangement he was getting himself into? so does this mean when you go out to confront someone no matter what you carry a gun on you? yeah cant wait to see the story of you being arrested for accidental discharge or god forbid accidental manslaughter.
Dude, he didn't stick the gun to his own head, but he did charge an angry person who'd already shown he was willing to shoot. You just don't do stupid things like that and live long. The point is, a black belt should ideally know better than to do something like that, therefore, he committed suicide by moron.