Stan Lee's Super Humans

[Hebrew Hammer]

The History channel is airing an episode of Stan Lee's super humans, titled "Killer Punch" featuring a Shaolin Monk...I didn't see a posting for this but looks like a good show airing on 8/12/10. Here's the link. http://www.history.com/shows/stan-lees-superhumans/episodes/#slide-2

[GeneChing]

Warrior monk Shi Yan Ming shocked the world by moving to New York in 1992, marking the first time that a Shaolin monk has ever defected from China. By harnessing the power of Qi, or vital energy, he's taken Bruce Lee's infamous "one-inch punch" to a new level.
Wasn't he the first monk to teach dapaoquan (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57944) in America too? :rolleyes:

[Hebrew Hammer]

So the first episode of the show...not bad but not much depth either so expect some misinformation about Kung Fu and Shaolin but should be interesting to watch the punch results.

[enoajnin]

There was a smattering of talk about Qi which led to the line later in the segment "Yeah, it looks like he has lot of Qi in him" by the host.

[Hebrew Hammer]

I didn't catch the episode, how were his punch results?

[IronFist]

anyone see it? i dvr'ed it and am watching it now. testing the force of some of his punches and one inch punch.

im ready to hear criticisms:
- when they broke sticks over his body they broke them with mechanical advantage, not qi
- he pulled his one inch punch back on the high speed
- wtf one inch punch has nothing to do with qi
- etc.

btw Superhumans is a cool show. watch it.

[Shaolin]

Is it just me or is it every time Yan Ming's name come's up on this forum people try to discredit him?

And no Gene he wasn't the first monk to teach large cannon, the add was misinterpreted, it was the first time he taught large cannon in the states.

[SanHeChuan]

772 pounds of force to the face.

2 inches of deflection to the chest.

One inch punch (that was at least 3 inches) was put in car accident terms :rolleyes: In laymen’s terms it was greater than a 30 mile per hour crash which is what they say about everybody and everything.

From fight science (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw)

Kung fu guy 612
Karate guy 816
TKD guy 917
Boxing guy 993

Of course they didn't take body weight into account when making the "comparisons", so much for science. :rolleyes:

[IronFist]

All I'm saying is a one inch punch can be performed by someone with correct body mechanics with no knowledge of qi.

I don't think Bruce Lee was into qi and he had a great one inch punch.

[wutymes]

that fight science show reminds me of when you overhear a conversation between two people debating about something they don't understand fully.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Just watched an episode of Myth Busters, they were testing the myth from Kill Bill about punching your way out of a coffin...they put MMA fighter John Fitch on his back and measured his 3" punching power rated at 1400 lbs of force. Very impressive.

[IronFist]

I love Mythbusters!

[ghostexorcist]

772 pounds of force to the face.

2 inches of deflection to the chest.

One inch punch (that was at least 3 inches) was put in car accident terms :rolleyes: In laymen’s terms it was greater than a 30 mile per hour crash which is what they say about everybody and everything.

From fight science (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw)

Kung fu guy 612
Karate guy 816
TKD guy 917
Boxing guy 993

Of course they didn't take body weight into account when making the "comparisons", so much for science. :rolleyes:
I remember that crap. The boxing guy was a huge gorilla and the kung fu guy was a 10 year old girl. Gee, I wonder who is going to hit harder?

[GeneChing]

Click that link (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57944), Shaolin, and you can take up this discussion there.

As for our other OT tangents, Fight Science is discussed here (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42741) and Mythbusters is discussed here (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52236) (among other places..)

[IronFist]

From wikipedia, the 9/30 episode:


Daniel meets martial artist Tom Cameron of Chicago, Illinois, the "Human Stun Gun" who focuses the power of "Chi" to deliver knockdown blows to opponents without touching them; Salim Haini of Marrakech, Morocco, whose incredible gastronomical fortitude has earned him the title of the "Man Who Eats Anything"; Ron White of Austin, Texas whose super mental focus allows him to memorize and recall complex information quickly, even while distracted; and Greg Poe, a test pilot from Florida who claims he can withstand incredible G-forces.

[Syn7]

From wikipedia, the 9/30 episode:

thats insane man!!!!!!!! check out this coincidence...

in another thread a few minutes ago a guy posted a van damme link... in the youtube page where the other related videos are down the side i clicked on a link that was the steve harvey show and it was this guy, the human stun gun... totally random, i didnt know who he was or even why i clicked... so i posted that link, like 5 minutes ago in this thread here:
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58404&page=6

then i click back into the kung fu forum and this post was there and its this same guy... weird... this seems to happen to me alot lately... maybe i just notice it more, i dunno... its a trip either way...

anyways,
heres the link to the vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vBd8Z47ZE

[EarthDragon]

I can assure you he will only do this on his own students, power of suggestion is a very powerful thing........

[Jimbo]

I was really impressed by the Indian Monkey Man (the one who climbs all over the place, including a sheer rock cliff, using mainly his finger strength and agility). That guy was incredible, and he has a helluva fu jow (tiger claw).

[tiaji1983]

Why use a 1 inch punch when you can use a 0 inch punch?...

[ghostexorcist]

Why use a 1 inch punch when you can use a 0 inch punch?...
Isn't that called a muff?

[IronFist]

I was really impressed by the Indian Monkey Man (the one who climbs all over the place, including a sheer rock cliff, using mainly his finger strength and agility). That guy was incredible, and he has a helluva fu jow (tiger claw).

Agreed. Insane strength and body control on that guy.

[EarthDragon]

Just watched that superhuman show on history channel and they did and episode on Tom w whatz his nutz guy from Chicago, and he tried the touchless KO on the host and it didnt work!

they did say that his student had a drop in blood pressure, but thats about it.

[Violent Designs]

because his students are WEAK.

THEY WILL DIE TO THE STRONG.

[IronFist]

Just watched that superhuman show on history channel and they did and episode on Tom w whatz his nutz guy from Chicago, and he tried the touchless KO on the host and it didnt work!

they did say that his student had a drop in blood pressure, but thats about it.

Yeah, I just watched it now. Here's what happened.

He knocked out some students without touching them.

He wasn't able to knock out the host.

They brought in some paranormal investigators who measured his "energy" or whatever and they got a reading, but then when he left the room they were still getting a reading.

Then they brought in some paramedics and hooked a student up to some meters and had him do a no touch knock out and they noticed a blood pressure drop, which lead them to the conclusion of "it's not hypnosis". That was it.

And then Stan Lee was like "the power of suggestion can be a super power of its own" or something like that.

Basically it was a bunch of BS that didn't work. I'm glad they didn't try to make it into something it wasn't. What good is no-touch knock out power if it only works on your own students?

[wutymes]

Kinda like that Japanese kiai master who could control people from several feet away...until he fought in a real fight where nothing worked at all?

It has like 5 million views on youtube. I don't know if it's funny or sad.

[CFT]

Basically it was a bunch of BS that didn't work. I'm glad they didn't try to make it into something it wasn't. What good is no-touch knock out power if it only works on your own students?The road to world domination is easy. Offer your lessons for free, make everyone your students, then you will reign supreme!

Muwahahahaha!!!:D

[IronFist]

Shaolin Monk Hu Qiong was on season 2, episode 1 this week doing some qigong stuff. They brought a biomechanical engineer to observe.

Monk claims to use qi to protect himself from damage.

First demo:
Qiong "prepares his body by harnessing his qi" and then hits himself in the head a bunch of times with a piece of metal and bends it, then flips it over and hits the other side and bends it back.

Engineer says "impressive, but physics explains how this is happening. there's nothing here that pushes the limits of human tolerance."

Second demo:
Qiong lays on 3 vertical spears while a 100 pound granite block is placed on his back and is broken with a sledgehammer. He does qi warm-up exercises first.

Engineer says it was impressive, but he's not "unbreakable", which the monk claimed to be.

Third demo:
Qiong presses a running drill into his stomach, throat, and temple. He has scars on his body, probably from previous demonstrations.

Engineer says he doesn't know why it's not going thru. They used force plates or something to see if he's actually pressing or just holding it there. They said he's pressing with up to 200lbs of force. It bled a little but the monk was fine.


I'm sure there's a trick to it, but I figured I'd mention it here in case anyone wanted to look it up.

[IronFist]

Here's an article and pic of him using a drill on his own head:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1173084.ece

[GeneChing]

Hu was brought up on our Shaolin bodyguards thread (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57236).

[IronFist]

Mods: I know this thread will get moved to "other media" or whatever but can we leave it on the main forum for a few days so people see it? :D

A guy named Kirby Roy who is a Combat Ki guy and student of Rod Sacharnoski (who was also on the episode) took strikes from two karate experts and a boxer. He took a groin shot and knife edge to the throat from the karate guys, and a liver shot from the boxer. Dude didn't even care, he smiled and shook their hands afterwards.

Anyone see it?

[bawang]

ur point is wat

[EarthDragon]

staged or real?

[IronFist]

ur point is wat

It was an interesting segment.

[Raipizo]

Just got done watching that episode ironfist. I guess it may be real, i've seen him before on YouTube so i don't think it would be the show faking it if anything. If it is true then we gotta find out how to do that! Lol

[Raipizo]

He should go against http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=CuqkP5Mic2U

"EYAHHHHHHHHHH EYAHHHHHH" you'll get it when you watch the video, I started laughing, but this is still impressive.

[David Jamieson]

Best I can do is supply a redirect link for a couple of days.

- My impression of Rick at Gold&Silver

[Robinhood]

I wonder if he feels it the next day ?, a jaw punch would have been something they might try. Knock out versus pain, does it do both ?

[IronFist]

Here's a thread that mentions that guy:

The first mention of Roy is on page 5 and through the rest of the thread.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9116&page=5

The general consensus is that it requires some skill but is mostly a parlor trick.

A comparison was made to a stage magician, except the difference is when you go to see a stage magician you know you are seeing stage tricks. The magician doesn't lie to you and tell you he is actually sawing the woman in half.

I will say, however, that the demo on Stan Lee's Superhumans was at least more along the lines of "I've been conditioning myself to withstand strikes" rather than "mystic qi power" fluff. So props to them for that.

[Jimbo]

It's impressive, but it doesn't look healthy at all over the long-term.