Drizzt
09-11-2010, 01:02 AM
Just curious to know how familiar some of you here are with this form of Wing Chun, as taught by Duncan Leung and Alan Lee. I haven't seen other lineages that look anything like what they teach. I always wondered why Duncan Leung's Wing Chun looks so different from what others do. Maybe some of you on here can explain that one to me. Not judging anyone, just curious.
My other reason for asking comes from a video that was posted of an old fight between Steve Falkner and combat sambo expert Igor Zinoviev that happened in 1996. Some were confused (at least that's my impression) of the circle drill that was being done by Steve in the promos. Is this something other schools of Wing Chun don't do? The circle drill is a great way to practice against multiple techniques and attackers to develop muscle memory. I will admit in the promo they were going at a slow speed and I can understand why someone who has never done it before would dismiss it.
As for Steve's fight, he closed the gap effectively, trying to force Igor to react, but he made the mistake of leaving himself open to a sambo fighter who knows how to take their opponents down and submit them. Steve should not have done the same technique twice. He probably wasn't aware of what his opponent could do. Combat sambo fighters are really good (Fedor for instance) and during that time very few people were aware of ground-fighting. I'm glad Steve took a chance against Igor and I have nothing but respect for him. I hope he learned from that experience. I plan on asking him about it and hopefully he'll respond.
What is sad is some who call themselves Wing Chun practitioners would bash a guy who stepped up and fought. Especially during the 90's when MMA wasn't even popular or known by most people. Wing Chun is no different than any other form of martial arts. If it doesn't evolve, it becomes obsolete. You have to adjust to a new environment. Learn to apply techniques in a combat environment. Sure MMA isn't real fighting, but it's close enough. Sanshou and full contact karate/kickboxing are close to real fighting too. You can't train in a school/gym and think you're ready to fight. You have to go against a real live person at full speed that you don't know.
I'm sure some of you train in MMA gyms or at least watch the sport. Those guys are evolving. They are also in better shape. Don't fool yourself into thinking they can't fight in the street. Imagine what they could do to you if they were on top with no ref's around? Combat Sambo is practiced by the Russian military and police force. They train standing and ground-fighting techniques. Do you think they play by any rules outside of a ring or cage? Why do people in Wing Chun spend so much time talking about theory and less time showing/talking about application in real life situations. Is a front kick and chain punching all that is used in fighting with Wing Chun?
My other reason for asking comes from a video that was posted of an old fight between Steve Falkner and combat sambo expert Igor Zinoviev that happened in 1996. Some were confused (at least that's my impression) of the circle drill that was being done by Steve in the promos. Is this something other schools of Wing Chun don't do? The circle drill is a great way to practice against multiple techniques and attackers to develop muscle memory. I will admit in the promo they were going at a slow speed and I can understand why someone who has never done it before would dismiss it.
As for Steve's fight, he closed the gap effectively, trying to force Igor to react, but he made the mistake of leaving himself open to a sambo fighter who knows how to take their opponents down and submit them. Steve should not have done the same technique twice. He probably wasn't aware of what his opponent could do. Combat sambo fighters are really good (Fedor for instance) and during that time very few people were aware of ground-fighting. I'm glad Steve took a chance against Igor and I have nothing but respect for him. I hope he learned from that experience. I plan on asking him about it and hopefully he'll respond.
What is sad is some who call themselves Wing Chun practitioners would bash a guy who stepped up and fought. Especially during the 90's when MMA wasn't even popular or known by most people. Wing Chun is no different than any other form of martial arts. If it doesn't evolve, it becomes obsolete. You have to adjust to a new environment. Learn to apply techniques in a combat environment. Sure MMA isn't real fighting, but it's close enough. Sanshou and full contact karate/kickboxing are close to real fighting too. You can't train in a school/gym and think you're ready to fight. You have to go against a real live person at full speed that you don't know.
I'm sure some of you train in MMA gyms or at least watch the sport. Those guys are evolving. They are also in better shape. Don't fool yourself into thinking they can't fight in the street. Imagine what they could do to you if they were on top with no ref's around? Combat Sambo is practiced by the Russian military and police force. They train standing and ground-fighting techniques. Do you think they play by any rules outside of a ring or cage? Why do people in Wing Chun spend so much time talking about theory and less time showing/talking about application in real life situations. Is a front kick and chain punching all that is used in fighting with Wing Chun?