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ngokfei
09-22-2010, 09:17 AM
The earliest Chinese term for wrestling, "jǐao dǐ" (角抵, horn butting), refers to an ancient sport in which contestants wore horned headgear with which they attempted to butt their opponents. Legend states that "jiao di" was used in 2697 BC by the Yellow Emperor's army to gore the soldiers of a rebel army led by Chi You.[1] In later times, young people would play a similar game, emulating the contests of domestic cattle, without the headgear. Jiao di has been described as an originating source of wrestling and latter forms of martial arts in China.[2]
The practice of Jiao li in the Zhou Dynasty was recorded in the Classic of Rites[3]

"Jiao li" (角力) was a grappling martial art that was developed in the Zhou Dynasty (between the twelfth and third century BC). An official part of Zhou military's training program under the order of the king[3][4], jiao li is generally considered to be the oldest existing Chinese martial art and is among the oldest systematic martial arts in the world. Jiao li supplemented throwing techniques with strikes, blocks, joint locks and attacks on pressure points.[1] These exercises were practiced in the winter by soldiers who also practiced archery and studied military strategy.

Jiao li eventually became a public sport in the Qin Dynasty (221-207 BC)[4], held for court amusement as well as for recruiting the best fighters. Competitors wrestled each other on a raised platform called a "leitai" for the potential reward of being hired as a bodyguard to the emperor or a martial arts instructor for the Imperial Military. Some contests would last a week or so, with over a thousand participants. Jiao li was taught to soldiers in China over many centuries and its popularity among the Manchu military guaranteed its influence on later Chinese martial arts through the end of the Qing dynasty.

Here is a signboard I did that took into consideration the age of the Zhou Dynasty and the usage of imagery relating to the Jiao Li method.

Syn7
09-22-2010, 09:35 AM
can you imagine.... you walk up with your crew, sticks in hand, and a crew of crazy fukcers lower their heads and chanrge at you with pointy helmets....???

to win a war that way is.... well... wow... i dunno what to say about that (rare i know:D)...

Chief_Suicide
09-23-2010, 04:42 AM
Appreciate the info. I'm fascinated with wrestling in all cultures. Wrestling seems like a natural sport for all young people. I remember wrestling before I knew what 'wrestling' was.

Does seem like a stretch to go from ramming pointy helmets to what we now acknowledge as Swai Jiao.

ngokfei
09-25-2010, 09:25 AM
this signboard/plaque is being sent to Mathew Blazon Yee- san fran, ca
http://kung-fu-fit.com/index.htm

SanHeChuan
09-25-2010, 11:46 AM
I find that description dubious. Goring people with helmet horns? :confused: That just sounds stupid. :rolleyes:

More likely the horns are arms locking like horns. That would make more sense since Shuai Jiao is wrestling rather than head butting/goring.

http://www.chinatoday.com.cn/English/e2008/e200801/images/e01tu/e0801n85.jpeg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41968000/jpg/_41968872_wrestling416.jpg

http://www.asianaccess.org/a2blog/resserver.php?blogId=8&resource=mon.wrestling.jpg

YouKnowWho
09-25-2010, 12:22 PM
Shuai means wrestling. Chiao (Jiao) means horn. In the ancient time when human saw 2 bulls to use horn to flip each other to the ground, human then used their arms to copy the bull's horn.

http://johnswang.com/SC_introduction_1.WMV

In one Viking movie, I saw the Viking worrior helmet had horn on it, may be ancient Chinese also had helmet like ancient Viking worrier.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theplatelady.com/figurines2/6218-viking-warrior.jpg&imgrefurl=http://wmuenglishbeardoff2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/history-of-beard-part-iv-dark-ages.html&h=500&w=500&sz=41&tbnid=mRFJcoy3TosTXM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dviking%2Bwarrior&zoom=1&q=viking+warrior&usg=__vmCenwBvlZ2I0BTdvDTo8SLYbgk=&sa=X&ei=RE6eTKDHConEsAPvl-zVAQ&ved=0CCkQ9QEwBQ

ngokfei
09-25-2010, 05:49 PM
For one thing alot of societies and cultures make use of Horned Helmets. And I am sure they were more then just decoration.

I'd say it might be similar to the famed thai boxing with hands wrapped and dipped in glass. Pretty dramatic.

this is one of the only images I know off that show a horned ceremonial dance that is listed as Jiao Di