Thai Kicks

[SPJ]

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjEzMDg0NjA0.html

since we have a thread about wu dang kicks.

we may also discuss MT kicks.

comments?

:)

[hskwarrior]

i know in the old days that as kids their shins would get chipped by a hammer and the bones would grow back stronger. do they STILL do this today?

either way, although they don't look like it at first glance, thai kicks are vicious.

[SPJ]

I like

1. the bench

2. ish ish or poosh poosh breathing, breath work or voicing

qi gong related or not?

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[SPJ]

3. stepping in circle and hand moves

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[SPJ]

4. holding on to the taped pole and knee strike

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[SPJ]

5. leg sweeps compared with shaolin or wudang leg sweep

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[SPJ]

6. some of the hand blocking moves are like those in WC and mantis

7. bent elbow protecting temple and head and move in are like Ba Ji

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[SPJ]

8 upper cut defenses: frontal kick to distance yourself, body turn with eblow up, or move in

the moving in part is like Ba Ji tactics, too.

:)

[mickey]

Hi SPJ,

Thai kicks are very agressive. I like the way Buakaw kicks. It is like he has serpents for legs.

I am at a disadvantage when it comes to the stuff coming out of Thailand. I have yet to see the real thing. We only see the sport.

mickey

[hskwarrior]

Buakaw is the MAN....

[IronFist]

cool vid.

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[Violent Designs]

Really no credit, really?

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58710

Buakaw has close to perfect technique and has ultimate control of his kicks, but he doesn't kick the hardest.

However they are absolutely FAST and well, more than hard enough.

Just ask Masato or Andy Souwer, LOL.

[Scott R. Brown]

cool vid.

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9-8-0? You forget how to count? Or creating your own counting system?:p

[PalmStriker]

Great instructional vid, SPJ, from a fighter who is imparting the science of MT ! :)

[sanjuro_ronin]

The law of specificity is awesome.
You do something and you do it over and over and you do it in a realistic way, you will find the best and most effective way to do it.

The thai round kick is, for what it does, the best round kick on the market.

[Frost]

Hi SPJ,

Thai kicks are very agressive. I like the way Buakaw kicks. It is like he has serpents for legs.

I am at a disadvantage when it comes to the stuff coming out of Thailand. I have yet to see the real thing. We only see the sport.

mickey

what do you mean by the real thing?

[sanjuro_ronin]

what do you mean by the real thing?

Why..oh why ???

[Frost]

Why..oh why ???

sorry (hangs head in shame and disappears)

[YouKnowWho]

Thing that I like about this clip:

- Use downward elbow instead of horizontal elbow (harder to block it).
- Raise leg first, then snape it.
- Use your body to pull your leg.
- Without target, you can't stand right.
- Waist target is an excellent idea.
- Put hand next to the face as target.
- Kick over a bench.
- In head level roundhouse kick, kee pass your opponent's head.
- In head level roundhouse kick, go up and then cut 45 degree downward.
- Add I-Shi breathing into your kick.
- Skip back leg, pass front leg, kick front leg.
- Raise your knee then move in circle. Kick and move in circle.
- Use outside arm to block kick and use inside arm to catch it.
- Roundkick at your opponent's back outside upper leg, inside and outside of the front upper leg.

[ghostexorcist]

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjEzMDg0NjA0.html

since we have a thread about wu dang kicks.

we may also discuss MT kicks.

comments?

:)
It's sad that I can recognize the opening music from internet porn.

[YouKnowWho]

6. some of the hand blocking moves are like those in WC and mantis
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挂(Gua) - comb hair

I also like to use the front kick to stop upper cut. If I want to pick up just one single skill in all MA style, I'll choice this one - front toe push kick against all punches.

Do you know how to down load clip from youku.com?

[Yung Apprentice]

Very good vid. Someone earlier mentioned about current shin conditioning used in Thailand, I too wish it was gone over a bit more in this vid. But awesome vid no less.

[gwa sow]

http://vixy.net/index.php i used this. downloaded program and it has an interface in your web browser to download video. after i downloaded the movie i removed program.

[YouKnowWho]

http://vixy.net/index.php i used this. downloaded program and it has an interface in your web browser to download video. after i downloaded the movie i removed program.

Thanks! But why do you need to remove that program after? Are there any virus risk involved?

[Frost]

挂(Gua) - comb hair

I also like to use the front kick to stop upper cut. If I want to pick up just one single skill in all MA style, I'll choice this one - front toe push kick against all punches.

Do you know how to down load clip from youku.com?

the only problem with the front push kick is its easy to turn off/sewwp aside and then if grappling is invloved you cant sprawl so the shots easier, actually i believe the seeping aside defence is used alot in thai against the kick

but i agree its a good technique and much under used in MMA

[gwa sow]

sorry guess i should have said more. program seems fine. it puts an interface on the toolbar of your browser. i just dont want more clutter on my screen thats all. plus i try to have as least amount of stuff on my computer as i can thats all. i ran it and seems perfectly safe though.

[mickey]

Greetings,

Frost,

I will use Tae Kwon D as an example.

The kicking methods of early Tae Kwon Do practitioners of the '60's and '70's are radically different from those of present day practitioners. Back then, the kicks were trained to stop someone dead, if not kill them. The flashy 540 degree type kicks did not exist back them. The kicks that were drilled were:

Front snap Kick (ball of foot, instep came later)

Side Thrust Kick (blade of foot)

Roundhouse Kick (ball of foot and instep)

Back Kick

Spinning Heel Kick (body held upward)

And they were not all kickers either, Their hands were something else.


These aforementioned kicks were seriously trained to do serious damage. Today, the emphasis is different. I have seen TKD players throw a kick only to fall because they made impact.

So when I say I have not seen the real thing when it comes to Thai boxing, I am not trying to start anything. I am telling it true. I have not. I would sure love to. That way I can see the evolution or de evolution of the art.


mickey

[goju]

Not entirely true in the killing art book choi was trying to get his guys to leap over someones head and kick them in the back of the cranium before they landed. Even slapped someone for saying it was impossible.:D Those fantastical kicks started coming into the picture pretty quick.

we have seen peoples legs break from thai kicks, we have seen limbs fractured, and permanent life long damage as well

exhibit A

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/115482/scaled_php.jpg

[mickey]

Hi goju,

There were other Kwans besides that put forth by Choi. And I would not say that all of them loved him.

mickey

[Violent Designs]

what do you mean by the real thing?

he means Muay Boran and the ancient techniques Mae Mai Muay Thai, Lok Mai Muay Thai.

[Violent Designs]

look, the traditional styles and techniques are still there they are just not as high percentage.... sport Muay Thai is streamlined and uses the most techniques.

despite that there are some "street friendly" techniques from ancient Muay Thai, that IF you can pull them off will really injure someone that is why they are not used in sport, obviously.

so there are plus and minus, positive and negative.... of both sides.