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Syn7
11-20-2010, 07:39 PM
we all know about the help haiti act right??? i'll give you a quick rundown... 1200 haitian orphans are in limbo, they are waiting to be adopted... congress passed the bill to fast track these adoptions months ago... but the senate made a few changes when they passed it(unanimous, (D) and (R) say yea), which means congress has to vote again... now here's where dems are playing politics with the lives of orphan children...

its been four months since they got this bill back and still no vote... why? seems like a no brainer right??? well, keep reading... on sunday it was on the agenda for mondays session... after a few changes to the schedule, it was moved around then dropped altogether... so you would think, ok, they sit all week, maybe tuesday, nope... wed.... nope... thurs...? nope... wtf... and we dont have any rights to know who or why it was removed...

they had time to pass resolutions that give congrats to penn state coach for 400 wins... they had time to give a NC town congrats on their 200th anniversary... but no time for 1200 orphans in limbo with no rights, no citizenship...

ok heres the worst part tho... dems are talking about putting the highly controversial DREAM act in with the haiti act... they know republicans dont want the dream act... so if they vote it down the dems can say that republicans dont care about orphans...

is this shrewd politics for a party that only has two months to get the dream act thru??? or is this pure political opportunism playing politics with the lives of children who have, quite frankly, been thru enough already...

personally, i dont disagree with the dream act as a whole, i see what they are getting at... it does have some problems but illegals that serve in the military deserve citizenship IMO... but ones that go to college? not so much...


i am an independant... in every sense of the word... this is just one more example of how "politics as usual", by either D or R is just pathetic and down right sad....


but as for today, if they do attach the dream act to the haiti act...
SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATS!!!

David Jamieson
11-21-2010, 09:50 AM
The UN has a mandate there. Why do you feel America should even shoulder the responsibility of reparations in Haiti?

There's nothing wrong with helping, but as Haiti is a sovereign nation, you and your countrymen are not obligated to do so.

in my opinion, the problem in Haiti is the UN and external interference.
Let them have and run their own country without the "white mans burden" attitude and they'll be fine.

The whole scenario is a further disaster because of the presumption that Haitians are helpless. They aren't. They need and want to direct themselves and not have a whole bunch of gawkers telling them what to do.

Syn7
11-21-2010, 03:49 PM
The UN has a mandate there. Why do you feel America should even shoulder the responsibility of reparations in Haiti?

There's nothing wrong with helping, but as Haiti is a sovereign nation, you and your countrymen are not obligated to do so.

in my opinion, the problem in Haiti is the UN and external interference.
Let them have and run their own country without the "white mans burden" attitude and they'll be fine.

The whole scenario is a further disaster because of the presumption that Haitians are helpless. They aren't. They need and want to direct themselves and not have a whole bunch of gawkers telling them what to do.

what are you smoking???
ok A) im canadian....

B) this isnt about disaster relief.... did you read the post? do ou even know what this is all about??? this is about how 1200 children were brought to the stetes in an act of good faith and ALREADY HAVE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THEM and the legal process was s'posed to be fast tracked to give these kids a clear path to citizenship... as of now, these kids have no nation and have no rights as citizens even tho the are and have been living in the US with adoptive families for how long now???


so yeah, this has nothing to do with disaster relief IN haiti... this is all about kids and their american families... im not sure why you went on about the UN... it has nothing to do with what i asked...

ok so legitimate, informed, US democrats, please answer.... anyone?

Kansuke
11-21-2010, 04:23 PM
legitimate, informed, US democrats?



That's an oxymoron.

Syn7
11-21-2010, 04:30 PM
That's an oxymoron.

legit, as in not an eastern canadian who didnt even read the post, or just didnt understand it? i dunno... clearly playboy didnt get what it was about...

Drake
11-21-2010, 04:30 PM
Why are Canadians so interested in US Politics?

Geez... go find your own drama.

Syn7
11-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Why are Canadians so interested in US Politics?

Geez... go find your own drama.

i am... but i cant talk about it here... most americans arent even sure where canada is....

for me this is about the political mind, not any particular nations politics...
i discuss otyher nations politics on sites from other nations...

Drake
11-21-2010, 06:06 PM
i am... but i cant talk about it here... most americans arent even sure where canada is....

for me this is about the political mind, not any particular nations politics...
i discuss otyher nations politics on sites from other nations...

Most Americans know where Canada and Mexico are. After that is when it starts getting fuzzy for my people.

Syn7
11-21-2010, 06:27 PM
Most Americans know where Canada and Mexico are. After that is when it starts getting fuzzy for my people.

my grandma told me about having car trouble in NC... some real nice country folk took em in... fed them... chilled with them while the car was being repaired... they said they liked canadians... they were always happy to meet friends from the south...:rolleyes:

i bet more than 5% of americans cant read.... :p


dont worry, rich canadians, they send their kids to american schools... so we aint so much better...



i know alot more about our own politics than yours... infact i know british politics better than i know american politics... but americans are fun to study... they are a whole new breed of retard... so much to study... i feel like a physics major on his first trip to CERN...

Syn7
11-21-2010, 06:43 PM
The UN has a mandate there. Why do you feel America should even shoulder the responsibility of reparations in Haiti?


didnt the UN just release a plea for help from any nations willing to help or if already helping, then help more??? saying nobody is helpingh enough and only 10% of of the money they asked for has been pledged, and even less has actually been handed over...

Drake
11-21-2010, 11:26 PM
my grandma told me about having car trouble in NC... some real nice country folk took em in... fed them... chilled with them while the car was being repaired... they said they liked canadians... they were always happy to meet friends from the south...:rolleyes:

i bet more than 5% of americans cant read.... :p


dont worry, rich canadians, they send their kids to american schools... so we aint so much better...



i know alot more about our own politics than yours... infact i know british politics better than i know american politics... but americans are fun to study... they are a whole new breed of retard... so much to study... i feel like a physics major on his first trip to CERN...

That post was such a self-fulfilling prophecy.

David Jamieson
11-22-2010, 06:32 AM
what are you smoking???
ok A) im canadian....

B) this isnt about disaster relief.... did you read the post? do ou even know what this is all about??? this is about how 1200 children were brought to the stetes in an act of good faith and ALREADY HAVE FAMILIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THEM and the legal process was s'posed to be fast tracked to give these kids a clear path to citizenship... as of now, these kids have no nation and have no rights as citizens even tho the are and have been living in the US with adoptive families for how long now???


so yeah, this has nothing to do with disaster relief IN haiti... this is all about kids and their american families... im not sure why you went on about the UN... it has nothing to do with what i asked...

ok so legitimate, informed, US democrats, please answer.... anyone?

1200 orphans from Haiti following the earthquake and their well being isn't about disaster relief? OK, if you're going to set limits and terms on what you perceieve to be part and parcel to that disaster relief.

Anyway, children are not afforded the same rights as adults. I'm sure each of those kids is doing alright and has not much to worry about. Should they ship them back to orphanages in Haiti?

Would their citizenship make a difference then? Would they be better off? I dunno, you tell me.

BJJ-Blue
11-22-2010, 08:17 AM
The UN has a mandate there. Why do you feel America should even shoulder the responsibility of reparations in Haiti?

There's nothing wrong with helping, but as Haiti is a sovereign nation, you and your countrymen are not obligated to do so.

LMAO at the utopian socialist saying the rich have no responsibility to take care of the poor.

Do you come on here just to argue, or do your political beliefs change with the weather?

David Jamieson
11-22-2010, 12:06 PM
LMAO at the utopian socialist saying the rich have no responsibility to take care of the poor.

Do you come on here just to argue, or do your political beliefs change with the weather?

Listen fascist nazi, (hey, if you are calling me a utopian socialist, I will frame you up in what I think you are), Lol at you for being a total hypocrite! Way to go! so, now your tune is that America should spend it's tax dollars on helping other sovereign nations to make reparations that had nothing to do with your country?

Beautiful! way to go fascist nazi! :p

this= you
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/runningintotroublep1.gif

BJJ-Blue
11-22-2010, 12:48 PM
so, now your tune is that America should spend it's tax dollars on helping other sovereign nations to make reparations that had nothing to do with your country?

I never said that. I see your up to your old tricks yet again. :rolleyes:

My take on it is simple. The US owes Haiti nothing. Zero. However, any American citizens who want to donate their money, time, possessions, etc to Haiti are more than welcome to do so.

David Jamieson
11-22-2010, 01:46 PM
I never said that. I see your up to your old tricks yet again. :rolleyes:

My take on it is simple. The US owes Haiti nothing. Zero. However, any American citizens who want to donate their money, time, possessions, etc to Haiti are more than welcome to do so.

so what are you talking about then? There's no tricks here.
I said your country has no obligation to Haiti and now you say you agree.

so what is it? Is that your position on it? Because that is mine.

And yeah, of course if someone wants to help they can go right ahead. Doesn't matter where they are from.

BJJ-Blue
11-22-2010, 02:03 PM
so what are you talking about then?

As I stated in my original post here: I think it's funny that a utopian socialist such as yourself is asking why a rich country like the US should shoulder the responsibility to help out a poorer nation like Haiti. It's a big contradiction. Do you get it now?

David Jamieson
11-22-2010, 02:25 PM
As I stated in my original post here: I think it's funny that a utopian socialist such as yourself is asking why a rich country like the US should shoulder the responsibility to help out a poorer nation like Haiti. It's a big contradiction. Do you get it now?

are you taking weird medication? YOu've just contradicted yourself throughout this thread.

I don't think any nation is responsible for the well being of any other nation.

I think anyone can help if they want, but don't take my tax dollars to prop up some greedy corrupt idiot in another country.

Do you get it now? :rolleyes:

MasterKiller
11-23-2010, 07:15 PM
http://imgur.com/rX2AV.jpg

BJJ-Blue
11-24-2010, 08:17 AM
are you taking weird medication? YOu've just contradicted yourself throughout this thread.

Not at all. I don't think nations have any responsibility to help out poorer nations. And I don't think citizens have any responsibility to help out poorer citizens. Where is the contradiction?


I don't think any nation is responsible for the well being of any other nation.

Which to me is a contradiction. You support welfare and socialized medicine, policies that force citizens to be responsible for the well being of other citizens. And to me, that's a contradiction.


I think anyone can help if they want, but don't take my tax dollars to prop up some greedy corrupt idiot in another country.

Do you get it now? :rolleyes:

But you think it's ok to take your tax dollars to pay for lazy, irresponsible people in other households, right?

So no, I don't get your contradictions. But I have asked for you to explain them to me.

David Jamieson
11-24-2010, 10:44 AM
Not at all. I don't think nations have any responsibility to help out poorer nations. And I don't think citizens have any responsibility to help out poorer citizens. Where is the contradiction? YOu just called me down for saying exactly that.




Which to me is a contradiction. You support welfare and socialized medicine, policies that force citizens to be responsible for the well being of other citizens. And to me, that's a contradiction.
I don't support it in someone elses country. I"ll pay to help my fellow citizens, but someone elses? Nope, you are in your nation and you are obligated to it, not someone else nation. Under the current reality, that is not a contradiction.



But you think it's ok to take your tax dollars to pay for lazy, irresponsible people in other households, right?

So no, I don't get your contradictions. But I have asked for you to explain them to me.

Dude, your first line is based in deep ignorance and misperception. What percentage do you think makes up the welfare roles? Of that percentage, what percentage is made up of lazy able bodied people who are sucking the system teat?

First of all, the amount of people on welfare overall is negligible and amounts to less than 2% of the working population and therefore has little if any impact on the overall economy. The USA is comparable to that number if you consider that Canada is only 10% of the population of the USA.

There are very very few able bodies on the welfare roles here. probably at this unfortunate time more that are drawing unemployment insurance and all extensions to that are now gone which will see a rise in welfare roles somewhat and a need for new jobs immediately.

Anyway, bottom line is I said that no one is obligated to fixing haiti and you said I was contradictory about this even though that is correct and you agreed, so, perhaps you have gotten into a groove of disagreeing with me that has spilled into this discussion. lol

BJJ-Blue
11-24-2010, 10:58 AM
I don't support it in someone elses country. I"ll pay to help my fellow citizens, but someone elses? Nope, you are in your nation and you are obligated to it, not someone else nation. Under the current reality, that is not a contradiction.

So you pick and choose who you will and wont help. Downtrodden Canadians are worthy of your help while downtrodden Haitians are not. I understand now.

David Jamieson
11-24-2010, 11:03 AM
So you pick and choose who you will and wont help. Downtrodden Canadians are worthy of your help while downtrodden Haitians are not. I understand now.

NOpe not at all.

I pay my taxes and a portion of that goes to social services in my country.

I also pay my taxes and have my Government pay into the IMF and as well use those dollars to send over doctors, soldiers, engineers, educators and equipment under the auspices of UN aid.

What I'm saying is that I had no choice at all whether or not I would participate in helping Haiti. As a Canadian, it's built into our tax system. I don't agree with that and I think that people should help if they are so inclined and if tehy don't want to help, that is fine too.

I'm all about personal choices and freedoms.

how about you? Did you donate? Did you pay your taxes which also went into the IMF and UN efforts carried out by the USA.

Do you think that your donation should have been your choice or do you think you should just be obligated to the rest of the world? And if so, do you understand the impingement on your personal freedom?

Lucas
11-24-2010, 11:54 AM
http://imgur.com/rX2AV.jpg

its even more funny that he's a big fat ass.

BJJ-Blue
11-24-2010, 11:57 AM
I wish someone else would chime in and see if they do or do not see your contradiction. To me it's beyond obvious. I'm just wondering if you see it and are denying it for whatever reason, or if you really can't see it.


What I'm saying is that I had no choice at all whether or not I would participate in helping Haiti. As a Canadian, it's built into our tax system. I don't agree with that and I think that people should help if they are so inclined and if tehy don't want to help, that is fine too.

But yet you say forcing people to take care of others is ok, but only as long it's others in your country. To me, thats a huge contradiction. Either you are for forced charity or you are not. It should not depend on where the people needing the charity live.


I'm all about personal choices and freedoms.

LMFAO!!!

Dude, you support socialized medicine, which takes away personal choice by FORCING everyone to buy health insurance.

You are for the Happy Meal ban, which takes away people's freedom of choice to eat what they choose.


Do you think that your donation should have been your choice or do you think you should just be obligated to the rest of the world? And if so, do you understand the impingement on your personal freedom?

It should be a personal choice, that's why it's called charity. If you donated a car to Meals On Wheels, I'd say you're a charitable person. But if the law forced everyone to give a car to Meals On Wheels, it's no longer charity, it's a legal obligation.

And yes, I see and understand infringements on my personal freedoms. That's why I either vote Republican or Libertarian, and never Democrat.

Syn7
11-24-2010, 07:46 PM
1200 orphans from Haiti following the earthquake and their well being isn't about disaster relief? OK, if you're going to set limits and terms on what you perceieve to be part and parcel to that disaster relief.

Anyway, children are not afforded the same rights as adults. I'm sure each of those kids is doing alright and has not much to worry about. Should they ship them back to orphanages in Haiti?

Would their citizenship make a difference then? Would they be better off? I dunno, you tell me.

no they shouldnt ship them out... im saying they need to be americans before they have any rights, any medical benefits, any real education etc etc... they need to be made into americans... plain and simple... what do you think im trying to say here???

ofcourse its a part of disater relief, but at this point what im talking about isnt disaster relief, im talking about irresponsible politics... they are here now, this isnt about haiti anymore... just make them americans... whats the hold up??? why playt politics with children?? its shady and its wrong... thats my point...

seriously, why are you even posting in here??? it was a simple statement and you danced right around it and never adressed the original question... so im not gonna waste any more time on ya... but feel free to make any real contribution to the thread if you can... otherwise....:rolleyes:

Syn7
11-24-2010, 07:51 PM
so what are you talking about then? There's no tricks here.
I said your country has no obligation to Haiti and now you say you agree.

so what is it? Is that your position on it? Because that is mine.

And yeah, of course if someone wants to help they can go right ahead. Doesn't matter where they are from.

why are you talking about obligations to haiti, soveriegn yadda yadda this, uhuh whatever that...

DAVID: this thread is not about helping haiti, its about adopting kids... yes adopting kids is a part of disaster relief, but we arent talking about whats going on in haiti, we're talking about 1200 orphgans in the US that were promissed a fast track to citizenship and arent getting it... just like you arent getting this thread... if you wanna talk disaster relief go make a thread about it... seriously? whats wrong with you??? adress the issue at hand or fukc off... plain and simple...

Syn7
11-24-2010, 07:53 PM
http://imgur.com/rX2AV.jpg

bible + obediance to jesus and his earthly representatives = food

Syn7
11-24-2010, 07:57 PM
NOpe not at all.

I pay my taxes and a portion of that goes to social services in my country.

I also pay my taxes and have my Government pay into the IMF and as well use those dollars to send over doctors, soldiers, engineers, educators and equipment under the auspices of UN aid.

What I'm saying is that I had no choice at all whether or not I would participate in helping Haiti. As a Canadian, it's built into our tax system. I don't agree with that and I think that people should help if they are so inclined and if tehy don't want to help, that is fine too.

I'm all about personal choices and freedoms.

how about you? Did you donate? Did you pay your taxes which also went into the IMF and UN efforts carried out by the USA.

Do you think that your donation should have been your choice or do you think you should just be obligated to the rest of the world? And if so, do you understand the impingement on your personal freedom?

that is exactly what US republicans say... my money, my choice... government intervention = bad... personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms... they have a point... its not my position but i understand why they feel that way... wellll, i somewhat understand... ofcourse i dont know what they really believe, i just know what they say...

Syn7
11-24-2010, 08:00 PM
its even more funny that he's a big fat ass.

its very sad and very dissapointing... these people actually believe they are maximizing their potential to give real aid... they just dont see how making and shiopping bibles isnt as important as making and shipping food... if everyone was fed, then yeah, make room on the cargo plain for bibles... but to have them take the place of food and meds when people are dying is unconcionable... and they reallly do believe it is whats best for everyone... its whats best for the bible thumpers, nobody else... oh and they must sleep so well after dragging that cross around everywhere they go....



OK NOW CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE ORPHANS AND THIS POLITICAL BULLSH!T THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING WITH THE LIVES OF CHILDREN BY ATTACHING THE DREAM ACT...

BJJ-Blue
11-29-2010, 10:34 AM
that is exactly what US republicans say... my money, my choice... government intervention = bad... personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms... they have a point... its not my position but i understand why they feel that way... wellll, i somewhat understand... ofcourse i dont know what they really believe, i just know what they say...

Speaking just for myself, the part in bold is very representative of my beliefs.

David Jamieson
11-29-2010, 11:41 AM
personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms

This is also known as self interest, greed, selfishness, callous disregard and basic inhumanity. Also, it is a sociopathic tendency to subscribe to this thinking when you are couched in the society which affords these benefits to it's populace.

sanjuro_ronin
11-29-2010, 11:48 AM
personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms

A very fine line that is walked there...

I think that "personal rights and freedoms" must be balanced with Laws that allow the rights of OTHERS to be respected and not abused when some wants to exert their "personal rights and freedoms".

There must be a balance between what is good for the whole and good for the individual, we can have cases of either/or because that = extremism.

BJJ-Blue
11-29-2010, 12:40 PM
This is also known as self interest, greed, selfishness, callous disregard and basic inhumanity. Also, it is a sociopathic tendency to subscribe to this thinking when you are couched in the society which affords these benefits to it's populace.

And that shows your close-mindedness.

So you think that is selfish? Greedy? Sociopathic?

Fine, but given the term says "personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms", that gives any person the right to give anything they CHOOSE to charity. You liberals really do have a horrible perception of human beings on an individual level. You really must think that if we were all given freedom over all of our money and not forced by Gov't to be charitable, we wouldn't give to charities.

David Jamieson
11-29-2010, 02:22 PM
*snip teh wahhhhh wahhhhh*

You liberals really do have a horrible perception of human beings on an individual level. You really must think that if we were all given freedom over all of our money and not forced by Gov't to be charitable, we wouldn't give to charities.

Not human beings, just republicans. There's a difference. :p

MasterKiller
11-29-2010, 02:24 PM
Not human beings, just republicans. There's a difference. :p

Religious Republicans actually donate about 30% more than secular Democrats in America.

As a side note, you think these guys voted Obama?

http://i.imgur.com/jPYFq.jpg[

BJJ-Blue
11-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Not human beings, just republicans. There's a difference. :p

Republicans are very charitable. Don't forget, all the "Bible thumpers" are Republicans. And say what you will about them, but they are charitable people.

You want to see rich people who are selfish, look at Al Gore and what they donated to charity while he was VP.

EDIT: MK actually beat me to it.

BJJ-Blue
11-29-2010, 02:59 PM
As a side note, you think these guys voted Obama?

I'm not sure about those people, but I bet these people did:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/graphics/mlk_small.jpg

David Jamieson
11-29-2010, 07:02 PM
that's some crappy link fu there man... just sayin..

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:13 PM
Religious Republicans actually donate about 30% more than secular Democrats in America.

As a side note, you think these guys voted Obama?

http://i.imgur.com/jPYFq.jpg[

dAyum.... b!tch is cuuuuute.... the belly relief on the fly is esspecially attractive... didnt anyone tell her she can get maternity clothes??? nothing sexier than pregnant wh0re!!!

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:21 PM
A very fine line that is walked there...

I think that "personal rights and freedoms" must be balanced with Laws that allow the rights of OTHERS to be respected and not abused when some wants to exert their "personal rights and freedoms".

There must be a balance between what is good for the whole and good for the individual, we can have cases of either/or because that = extremism.

agreed... but dont confuse personal rights that tread on other personal rights with personal rights that tread on collective rights or vice versa... its different...

one way or the other and youre a d!ck tho... if you believe personal rights over collective rights your being selfish... granted there is no such thing as a purely unselfish act EVER, but there is a sliding scale and we all have diff ideas of where the righteousness lays in that spectrum... but if you believe in comminal rights over personal rights youre a controlling pr!ck... siddartha made it very clear which path is the right path... whats not so clear is how to walk that path... tough one...

in the states you have these dynamic polars pulling at eachother... yiou call that a fair and balanced system... i call it a civil war waiting to happen... this two party sh!t is dangerous...

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:25 PM
This is also known as self interest, greed, selfishness, callous disregard and basic inhumanity. Also, it is a sociopathic tendency to subscribe to this thinking when you are couched in the society which affords these benefits to it's populace.

well said... i dont completely agree, but i understand why you feel that way... im more to the center... in some ways im very conservative in other ways im very progressive... but in most ways, im more towards the center... not a fence sitter, but i do climb over it often... i go with my intuition and the facts on the ground as i see them... i doubt i will ever belong to a political party... and like i said before, my history wont allow me to enter politics... otherwise, i may have done just that... i was gonna take poli sci but it didnt pan out... ended up jumping right into the, umm, commodities market instead... :rolleyes:

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:29 PM
And that shows your close-mindedness.

So you think that is selfish? Greedy? Sociopathic?

Fine, but given the term says "personal rights and freedoms are held above collective rights and freedoms", that gives any person the right to give anything they CHOOSE to charity. You liberals really do have a horrible perception of human beings on an individual level. You really must think that if we were all given freedom over all of our money and not forced by Gov't to be charitable, we wouldn't give to charities.

well it is true to a degree... but lots of people would still help out even if it was a capital crime... and in some cases in ur history it was... like giving aid and comfort to the enemy in WW2 for hiding an old japanese couple from the internmemnt camps while their three sons fought with the allies... and look at the german people who helped fight against the nazis, sacrificing a cushy gig to do whats right... people will help people no matter what... people will harm people and sell people out, no matter what...

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:35 PM
Religious Republicans actually donate about 30% more than secular Democrats in America.

As a side note, you think these guys voted Obama?

http://i.imgur.com/jPYFq.jpg[

yeah, but if you followed the money you may be rather dissapointed for the value of them dollars... giving to ur pastor and giving to doctors without borders are two completely different things...


i think hillhill wouldve been a better president... but u guys needed a black pres more than u needed a woman pres... thats why he was elected... because he's black... well, kinda black...

is the modern presidency too much for one man to handle??? look how fast these guys age when they are in office... clinton(granted he released alotta tension under that desk in the oval office), baby bush, now old grey obama who was a young man like 4 years ago...

Syn7
11-29-2010, 08:37 PM
so does anyone actually know anything aboiut these bills??? we can start a personal freedoms versus collective rights thread if yall want... but what about my original question... i know what blue thinks... i wanna hear from real dems on this... tell me what you think of the dream act... NOT YOU BLUE!!! i dont wanna have an immigration discussion and talk about arizona politics for 689798 pages okay bruh!!!:D

Drake
12-02-2010, 10:59 AM
dAyum.... b!tch is cuuuuute.... the belly relief on the fly is esspecially attractive... didnt anyone tell her she can get maternity clothes??? nothing sexier than pregnant wh0re!!!

Why would you call her that? Because she has different interests and culture than you? How do you know that the guy she is with isn't her high school sweetheart? Let me guess, because you made a stupid ass ASSUMPTION about people based on a photo and your prejudices regarding a certain way of life.

Rednecks have the right to be rednecks. And for all you know, they could have plenty of black friends. I've been in the deep south, and it happens all the time.

Man, I am really beginning to dislike Canadian prejudices.

David Jamieson
12-03-2010, 07:36 AM
*snip*

Man, I am really beginning to dislike Canadian prejudices.

whatever dude, like there is no such thing as "american prejudices"? :rolleyes:

don't be such a ****us malorkus.

Syn7
12-03-2010, 07:48 PM
Why would you call her that? Because she has different interests and culture than you? How do you know that the guy she is with isn't her high school sweetheart? Let me guess, because you made a stupid ass ASSUMPTION about people based on a photo and your prejudices regarding a certain way of life.

Rednecks have the right to be rednecks. And for all you know, they could have plenty of black friends. I've been in the deep south, and it happens all the time.

Man, I am really beginning to dislike Canadian prejudices.

lol... we have our share of rednecks... im related to a bunch of em...


what i find really sad tho, is that you cant tell when im just being a d!ck or when im dead serious... come on now... you know you love me son... now drop and gimme twenty for being slow in the head soldier!

Syn7
12-03-2010, 07:50 PM
david, i think we;ve been lumped together, friend... should we both be offended here???


david is just an easterner... he doesnt understand the complexities of the westerners... how dare you compare!!!! that would be like, i dunno, comparing canadian and american law... :eek:


18.... 19... 20....


ok do it again... your form sucked...



u know drake... i love that ive hit a nerve... i had ruled out that weakness in you awhile ago... guess i was wrong... and the only thing i like more than being right, is being shown im wrong.... thats when i really get something out of any debate...

Drake
12-03-2010, 07:55 PM
david, i think we;ve been lumped together, friend... should we both be offended here???


david is just an easterner... he doesnt understand the complexities of the westerners... how dare you compare!!!! that would be like, i dunno, comparing canadian and american law... :eek:


18.... 19... 20....


ok do it again... your form sucked...



u know drake... i love that ive hit a nerve... i had ruled you out that weakness in you awhile ago... guess i was wrong... and the only thing i like more than being right, is being shown im wrong.... thats when i really get something out of any debate...

Dude... I am working 18 hour days in freezing weather being asked to answer unanswerable questions. At the same time I am still expected to turn in my doctorate homework and research, as well as plan for an uncertain future. You are somewhere on my emoitonal scale between the plight of Red Yaks in Mongolia and whether or not the penguin I saw on a nature show killed by a sea lion suffered at all. :D

Syn7
12-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Dude... I am working 18 hour days in freezing weather being asked to answer unanswerable questions. At the same time I am still expected to turn in my doctorate homework and research, as well as plan for an uncertain future. You are somewhere on my emoitonal scale between the plight of Red Yaks in Mongolia and whether or not the penguin I saw on a nature show killed by a sea lion suffered at all. :D

ok now thats the drake i like...

Syn7
12-03-2010, 09:46 PM
so the bill passed today... anyone know if the dream act was attached???