Dire Straits 'Money For Nothing' song banned in Canada

[BJJ-Blue]

"Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing" can no longer be played in Canada in its original form since the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has deemed the song offensive.

The decision stems from a listener's complaint last year calling the lyrics — which contain the word "f----t" — extremely offensive to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

The song, which has been a classic rock staple for 25 years, earned the band a Grammy for best rock performance. The then state-of-the-art computer-animation video was also the first music video to air on MTV Europe."

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/01/13/dire-straits-money-ruled-offensive-canada/?test=faces

It's amazing that one sissy baby can get a song banned from an entire nation. Thank God the United States has the First Amendment.

[MasterKiller]

"Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing" can no longer be played in Canada in its original form since the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has deemed the song offensive.

The decision stems from a listener's complaint last year calling the lyrics — which contain the word "f----t" — extremely offensive to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

The song, which has been a classic rock staple for 25 years, earned the band a Grammy for best rock performance. The then state-of-the-art computer-animation video was also the first music video to air on MTV Europe."

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/01/13/dire-straits-money-ruled-offensive-canada/?test=faces

It's amazing that one sissy baby can get a song banned from an entire nation. Thank God the United States has the First Amendment.

They should just bleep it out. I think bleeps are carried way too far in America (radio stations bleep "vagina," which I think is ridiculous), but you have to make compromises sometimes.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Funny, I just heard it today on Q107 and there was no editing of the word at all.

[BJJ-Blue]

They should just bleep it out. I think bleeps are carried way too far in America (radio stations bleep "vagina," which I think is ridiculous), but you have to make compromises sometimes.

I completely agree.

And in this particular song, I think the guy using the word is the one getting made fun of, not the guy getting called the word.

[SoCo KungFu]

Thank God the United States has the First Amendment.

The irony here is that in this country its the bible thumpers that have all the sand in their pussies.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I completely agree.

And in this particular song, I think the guy using the word is the one getting made fun of, not the guy getting called the word.

If I recall, the singer, portraying a " mover", calls rock stars ***gots.
So the singer is, in effect, calling himself one, but I don't think Mark seems himself as "pop star rock star" , who are the true targets of his rant.

[BJJ-Blue]

If I recall, the singer, portraying a " mover", calls rock stars ***gots.
So the singer is, in effect, calling himself one, but I don't think Mark seems himself as "pop star rock star" , who are the true targets of his rant.

I just remember the mover calls the rock star in the video (who is surrounded by hot women btw) a ***got. Then the lyrics go 'That little ***got got his own jet airplane, that little ***got he's a millionaire'.

[BJJ-Blue]

The irony here is that in this country its the bible thumpers that have all the sand in their pussies.

"After I get off the radio today with you, Rush Limbaugh will have three hours to say whatever he wants and I won't have any opportunity to respond. And there's no truth detector. You won't get on afterwards and say what was true and what wasn't." -Bill Clinton

Sounds like he has sand in his about free speech, and he is no Bible thumper.

[Drake]

Actually, we ban quite a bit of stuff.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I just remember the mover calls the rock star in the video (who is surrounded by hot women btw) a ***got. Then the lyrics go 'That little ***got got his own jet airplane, that little ***got he's a millionaire'.

Yep, that's the one.

[MasterKiller]

"After I get off the radio today with you, Rush Limbaugh will have three hours to say whatever he wants and I won't have any opportunity to respond. And there's no truth detector. You won't get on afterwards and say what was true and what wasn't." -Bill Clinton

Sounds like he has sand in his about free speech, and he is no Bible thumper.

I don't see where he called for Rush to be censored.

[Drake]

And we are trying to butcher Mark Twain. How are we any different from Canada in this regard?

Except one is a masterpiece of American literature, and another is just a stupid rock song.

[Drake]

"After I get off the radio today with you, Rush Limbaugh will have three hours to say whatever he wants and I won't have any opportunity to respond. And there's no truth detector. You won't get on afterwards and say what was true and what wasn't." -Bill Clinton

Sounds like he has sand in his about free speech, and he is no Bible thumper.

He's not calling for censorship. He's saying caveat emptor when dealing with shock jocks who can say whatever they want, with absolutely no fact checking or chance for a counterargument.

And don't forget, we specifically added provisions for libel and slander when it comes to free speech. The Constitution is very clear that the 1st Amendment does NOT equate into saying whatever the hell you want.

[sanjuro_ronin]

BY the way, the song is NOT to be banned, just the word is to be edited.
I am not sure all stations will follow that since I know that some stations play songs unedited while others already bleep/pause certain things out.

[Syn7]

thats so weak... thats a new attitude that has been imported into canada... my whole life canadian TV has been open and had very little censorship... on canadian channels you can find swearing nudity and all that... theres even softcore porn on late night... this whole "we must shelter our children from anything even remotely offensive" is mos def an imported value from south of the border... this kinda thing used to be considered weak around here... like keeping kids under their mommas skirt till theyre 18 is a new phenomenon for canadian TV... thats just a general comment tho... about the f@ggot thing, if its that offensive just blank it out like they do with bullsh!t rappers like eminem or that geek soulja boy...

Also... elton john didnt seem to have a problem with the song when he performed the song enthusiastically in 1988 at The Prince's Trust Concert.

besides, the term wasnt in reference to h0mosexuals, it was a knock on hair bands like motley crue, becoz they all dressed very effeminately with the 1200 dollar perm, caked on make up, and we wont even get into the clothes they wore...

i mean, i can see why h0mosexuals have issue, but its not a very big deal...

maybe they can do it like the N word, and take it for themselves... "whuttup my f@ggot, how you doin?" "not much my f@g, just kickin it"...:rolleyes:

[BJJ-Blue]

I don't see where he called for Rush to be censored.


He's not calling for censorship.

From the same interview:

"We either ought to have the Fairness Doctrine or we ought to have more balance on the other side, because essentially there's always been a lot of big money to support the right-wing talk shows, and let's face it, you know, Rush Limbaugh is fairly entertaining, even when he's saying things that I think are ridiculous. I never minded having somebody be heard who disagreed with me. But if you only have one side like this blatant drumbeat against the stimulus program, this doesn't reflect the economic reality we're facing."

The Fairness Doctrine is Government censorship.


He's saying caveat emptor when dealing with shock jocks who can say whatever they want, with absolutely no fact checking or chance for a counterargument.

LMFAO!!! Are you saying the President of the United States did not have the means to fact check or make a counterargument????


And don't forget, we specifically added provisions for libel and slander when it comes to free speech. The Constitution is very clear that the 1st Amendment does NOT equate into saying whatever the hell you want.

100% True. And how many times has Rush Limbaugh, who Clinton was calling to be censored via the Fairness Doctrine, been successfully sued for libel or slander?

[David Jamieson]

First, thanks Fox, you got it wrong again and put your own skew on things to do whatever it is that Rupert likes you to do. :rolleyes:

know this:

Canadian Broadcast Standards Council = Nobody. this is a private agnecy, non govrernment and with no powers over program directors or stations in any way shape or form.

the legitimate body for that is the CRTC which is the same as the FCC more or less.
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) are the only body who can make any sort of decisions about what can and cannot get airtime in Canada, just like the FCC makes those decisions in teh US.

So the council received a complaint. They have a membership of many stations. Stations don't have to adhere to these nanny rulings and indeed have not! lol.
1 person whining doesn't cut it and I'm pretty sure this is just a BS story to fill gaps in dead news weeks. lol

here's the actual on this:
http://www.cbsc.ca/english/decisions/2011/110112.php

[BJJ-Blue]

thats so weak... thats a new attitude that has been imported into canada... my whole life canadian TV has been open and had very little censorship... on canadian channels you can find swearing nudity and all that... theres even softcore porn on late night... this whole "we must shelter our children from anything even remotely offensive" is mos def an imported value from south of the border... this kinda thing used to be considered weak around here... like keeping kids under their mommas skirt till theyre 18 is a new phenomenon for canadian TV... thats just a general comment tho... about the f@ggot thing, if its that offensive just blank it out like they do with bullsh!t rappers like eminem or that geek soulja boy...

Hey, it started with Political Correctness in the 1990s. People like me were speaking up then about the evils of censorship and where this could be headed. We were laughed at, called names, and told we were crazy. Now we have been proven to have been correct.

[Syn7]

Hey, it started with Political Correctness in the 1990s. People like me were speaking up then about the evils of censorship and where this could be headed. We were laughed at, called names, and told we were crazy. Now we have been proven to have been correct.

yeah, it just wasnt that heated of a topic on this side of the 49th... atleast not on the west side where im at... we were infiltrated by all that PC bullsh!t thru american media and it slowly crept in... just like how american privates are moving in on our public works... how our legal system is being undermined by american style littigation and all that rhettoric from south of the border... you know, it really hasnt been a very positive thing either... we were better off when people didnt sue over anything... i wont even get into the effect on our foriegn policy and or criminal system...

[Syn7]

First, thanks Fox, you got it wrong again and put your own skew on things to do whatever it is that Rupert likes you to do. :rolleyes:

know this:

Canadian Broadcast Standards Council = Nobody. this is a private agnecy, non govrernment and with no powers over program directors or stations in any way shape or form.

the legitimate body for that is the CRTC which is the same as the FCC more or less.
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) are the only body who can make any sort of decisions about what can and cannot get airtime in Canada, just like the FCC makes those decisions in teh US.

So the council received a complaint. They have a membership of many stations. Stations don't have to adhere to these nanny rulings and indeed have not! lol.
1 person whining doesn't cut it and I'm pretty sure this is just a BS story to fill gaps in dead news weeks. lol

here's the actual on this:
http://www.cbsc.ca/english/decisions/2011/110112.php


sounds about right to me...

[SoCo KungFu]

yeah, it just wasnt that heated of a topic on this side of the 49th... atleast not on the west side where im at... we were infiltrated by all that PC bullsh!t thru american media and it slowly crept in... just like how american privates are moving in on our public works... how our legal system is being undermined by american style littigation and all that rhettoric from south of the border... you know, it really hasnt been a very positive thing either... we were better off when people didnt sue over anything... i wont even get into the effect on our foriegn policy and or criminal system...

And soon you too will have 5 Starbucks on every corner. And the assimilation will be complete

[Syn7]

And soon you too will have 5 Starbucks on every corner. And the assimilation will be complete

already done... at one crossroad there are three starbucks on three of the four corners... and they all make money...

[PalmStriker]

"Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing" can no longer be played in Canada in its original form since the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has deemed the song offensive.

The decision stems from a listener's complaint last year calling the lyrics — which contain the word "f----t" — extremely offensive to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

The song, which has been a classic rock staple for 25 years, earned the band a Grammy for best rock performance. The then state-of-the-art computer-animation video was also the first music video to air on MTV Europe."

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/01/13/dire-straits-money-ruled-offensive-canada/?test=faces

It's amazing that one sissy baby can get a song banned from an entire nation. Thank God the United States has the First Amendment.

It's the bulldykenshpeil behind most of the agendaBender push to create an opinionless society. The game plan is well known.

[BJJ-Blue]

yeah, it just wasnt that heated of a topic on this side of the 49th... atleast not on the west side where im at... we were infiltrated by all that PC bullsh!t thru american media and it slowly crept in... just like how american privates are moving in on our public works... how our legal system is being undermined by american style littigation and all that rhettoric from south of the border... you know, it really hasnt been a very positive thing either... we were better off when people didnt sue over anything... i wont even get into the effect on our foriegn policy and or criminal system...

I agree with much of that. But your legal system can't be undermined by American style litigation unless you allow it to be. We don't have tort reform and we literally have ambulance chaser lawyers on TV saying, 'You may not even know you have a case, so call me. You have nothing to lose'. Another literally has the tagline, 'It's just that easy'. You guys are free to enact tort reform and do things like limit slip-and-fall or minor traffic accident awards and pull the law licenses of lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits regardless of what our legal system does.

[Drake]

The FCC demands we edit our music ALL THE TIME. I can think of tons of songs that have had words bleeped out, even when the offensive words aren't used in an offensive context.

So, BJJ... why is this some sort of groundbreaking event?

[Syn7]

I agree with much of that. But your legal system can't be undermined by American style litigation unless you allow it to be. We don't have tort reform and we literally have ambulance chaser lawyers on TV saying, 'You may not even know you have a case, so call me. You have nothing to lose'. Another literally has the tagline, 'It's just that easy'. You guys are free to enact tort reform and do things like limit slip-and-fall or minor traffic accident awards and pull the law licenses of lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits regardless of what our legal system does.

we do... but it slowly creeps in... i know the commercials youre talking about... its not that bad here... yet... genies outta the bottle tho, there are a ton of stupid canadians just waiting to be told what to do... and unfortunately tv networks have more influence than anyone else... and when it comes down to it, maybe 5% OF JUST REGULAR CABLE IS ACTUALLY CANADIAN CONTENT... uugg caps... sorry...

[Syn7]

The FCC demands we edit our music ALL THE TIME. I can think of tons of songs that have had words bleeped out, even when the offensive words aren't used in an offensive context.

So, BJJ... why is this some sort of groundbreaking event?

its not... the crtc does it all the time too...

[Reality_Check]

From the same interview:

"We either ought to have the Fairness Doctrine or we ought to have more balance on the other side, because essentially there's always been a lot of big money to support the right-wing talk shows, and let's face it, you know, Rush Limbaugh is fairly entertaining, even when he's saying things that I think are ridiculous. I never minded having somebody be heard who disagreed with me. But if you only have one side like this blatant drumbeat against the stimulus program, this doesn't reflect the economic reality we're facing."

The Fairness Doctrine is Government censorship.

Actually no. Those quotes are not from the same interview. The one you quoted (without a link) on page one of this thread is from 1994. The one you quoted (again without a link) above is ostensibly from 2009. Of course, the only source for it is a Rush Limbaugh transcript...

[BJJ-Blue]

The FCC demands we edit our music ALL THE TIME. I can think of tons of songs that have had words bleeped out, even when the offensive words aren't used in an offensive context.

So, BJJ... why is this some sort of groundbreaking event?

Well first off it's never been done for that word to my knowledge. I remember in the 80s the UK banned Frankie Goes To Hollywood's "Relax" from the radio while we did not even demand they edit it. And we had the 2 Live Crew singing "Me So *****" and that wasn't censored. And the 2 Live Crew did beat obscenity charges filed against them by arguing they were within their First Amendment rights.

Can you list some of those songs, and not because I'm arguing with you. I'm curious because if we really are indeed doing it, I'd wager it's gotten alot worse over time, ie things that would not have been banned/censored 20 years ago are now being banned.

[MasterKiller]

Well first off it's never been done for that word to my knowledge. I remember in the 80s the UK banned Frankie Goes To Hollywood's "Relax" from the radio while we did not even demand they edit it. And we had the 2 Live Crew singing "Me So *****" and that wasn't censored. And the 2 Live Crew did beat obscenity charges filed against them by arguing they were within their First Amendment rights.The 2LIVECREW were charged with obscenity based on local laws regarding obscenity (by a Republican govenor), not for radio play.

[MasterKiller]

Can you list some of those songs, and not because I'm arguing with you. I'm curious because if we really are indeed doing it, I'd wager it's gotten alot worse over time, ie things that would not have been banned/censored 20 years ago are now being banned.

How about Salt N Pepa not being able to use the word "retard" in Whatta Man (1994).

[MasterKiller]

Banned Lyrics - 1950s

Dean Martin's hit song "Wham Bam, Thank You Ma'am" is banned by radio stations for having suggestive lyrics. "There Stands the Glass" by Webb Pierce is banned from radio play for lyrics that promote drinking. The lyrics of a Cole Porter classic, "I Get A Kick Out of You" are changed for airplay due to a reference to cocaine.

Rosemary Clooney's hit "Mambo Italiano" for having lyrics void of good taste. Pat Boone starts recording and sanitizing T-Bone Walker's lyrics that contain messages of drinking and sexuality. Billie Holiday's version of Cole Porter's "Love for Sale" is banned for references to prostitution. The novelty song "Transfusion" by Dot and Diamond by NBC, ABC and CBS for grossness. Lloyd Price's original lyrics to "Stagger Lee" are banned for themes of violence.

Banned Lyrics - 1960s

The lyrics for the Kingsmen hit "Louie, Louie" were temporarily banned for sexual content. The lyrics to the Barry McGuire song "Eve of Destruction" were banned for containing themes of suicidal ideation.

Radio stations across the country banned The Who's hit sing "Pictures of Lily" for masturbation lyrics. Frank Zappa's lyrics in "Money" were altered by MGM Records because of a sexual reference. Radio stations banned The Swinging Medallions' lyrics to "Double Shot (of My Baby's Love" because of sexual references.

In order to appear on the Ed Sullivan Show, the Rolling Stones agree to alter the lyrics to "Let's Spend The Night Together". Radio stations banned Van Morrison's "Brown-Eyed Girl" because of the mention of pre-marital sex and teenage pregnancy. Jim Morrison temporarily agreed to change the lyrics to "Light My Fire" for the Ed Sullivan Show so that the listening public would not hear the words "Girl we couldn't get much higher", but when live and on air, sang those very same words.

Banned Lyrics - 1970s

A handful of radio stations across the country without consent, alter the lyrics to John Lennon's song "Working Class Hero". U. S. radio stations banned Bob Dylan's lyrics to "George Jackson" because of its political nature and an obscenity in the words. The lyrics to Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath" are changed without knowledge or consent by their record label Chrysalis Records over an anatomical reference.

The lyrics to John Lennon's song "Woman is the ****** of the World" are banned by radio stations across the U. S. as they misunderstood the words to be racist and anti-female. John Denver's hit song "Rocky Mountain High," is banned by radio stations for a possible drug reference. Loretta Lynn's song "The Pill" is banned for talking about birth control. The Sex Pistol's song "God Save the Queen" was banned by the BBC since the lyrics were said to be too political and unpatriotic.

Banned Lyrics - 1980s

Mercury Records bans Frank Zappa's song "I Don't Wanna Get Drafted" and refused to release the single. Olivia Newton John's hit song "Physical" is banned by Utah radio stations for being too suggestive for the Mormon population. Al Hudson's song "Let's Talk" is banned by radio stations across the country for sexual lyrics after a warning by MCA Records is released.

Sheena Easton's hit song "Sugar Walls" is banned by American Bandstand because the lyrics have been targeted by the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) as being sexually suggestive. After his death, Marvin Gaye's song "Sanctified *****" is rewritten as "Sanctified Lady" by the record company. Radio stations across the country ban George Michael's song "I Want Your Sex" because of sexual lyrics.


Banned Lyrics - 1990s

In Florida, 2 Live Crew's song "Me So Horney" is banned for sexual lyrics. A judge in Tennessee ruled that all of 2 Live Crew's "Nasty As They Wanna Be" and N.W.A.'s "Straight Outta Compton" lyrics are obscene under state law and thus banned. In regard to the 2 Live Crew song, four other states follow suit including Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

A Nebraska radio station banned lyrics from K. D. Lang because of her anti-meat beliefs. Wal-Mart discount stores banned Sheryl Crow's self-titled CD because of the lyrics in her song "Love Is A Good Thing" depicted gun violence using Wal-Mart products. Insane Clown Posse's album "The Great Milenko" is banned by stores nationwide because of unacceptable content in the lyrics. Prodigy's song "Smack My ***** Up" is banned by Wal-Mart and K-Mart stores after selling the "Fat of the Land" album for nine months, when the National Organization for Women object to the anti-feminist lyrics.


Banned Lyrics - 2000s

The New York Fraternal Order of Police ban Bruce Springsteen from New York performances for the lyrical content of his song "American Skin" about the controversial shooting death by police of student, Amadou Diallo. Producers of the Late Night with David Letterman TV show ban singer Ani DiFranco's lyrics to her hit "Subdivision" because of the racial conflict inherent in the song.

Sarah Jones' and DJ Vadim's song "Your Revolution", is banned by the FCC for profanity and Portland, Oregon radio station KBOO is fined for playing the song. Eminem's hit song, "The Real Slim Shady" is banned by the FCC and two radio stations are fined for playing the song.

[BJJ-Blue]

The 2LIVECREW were charged with obscenity based on local laws regarding obscenity (by a Republican govenor), not for radio play.

True.

As to the politics involved, the Republican Governor had nothing to do with charges, arrests, etc. It was done on the local level by sheriff Nick Navarro, who was a Republican. The U.S. district court judge, Jose Gonzalez, who ruled the album obscene and illegal to sell was a Democrat, appointed by Jimmy Carter. So politics is moot on this one, as both parties were in the wrong.

[BJJ-Blue]

How about Salt N Pepa not being able to use the word "retard" in Whatta Man (1994).

Thanks.

It seems from the list in the past more lyrics were banned over sexual overtones, lyrics, etc. While the more recent bans usually have to more with political correctness. Censorship is censorship, and it's wrong.

FYI, some of your songs were not banned by the government, but by TV shows, record labels, etc. I don't count those, they can't fine people and/or put them in jail. I'm talking about Gov't censorship. Sorry about not being more clear.