So you thought Fluoride was safe?

[Hardwork108]

The truth about Fluoride on Australian TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskdiL_YqRw&feature=player_embedded#


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[Syn7]

nobody likes the idea of flouride dude... not anyone that really gets what its all about... lots of folks dont care, but thats on them... this isnt anything new...

[Hardwork108]

nobody likes the idea of flouride dude... not anyone that really gets what its all about... lots of folks dont care, but thats on them... this isnt anything new...

Believe me that it is NEW for many members in this forum who believe that if Fluoride was that bad then their caring leaders would not allow it into our food chain, and there are millions of "sleeping beauties" like them on the planet, who trust the immoral psychopaths who are time and again manipulated into power to screw the human race.

For those that who do not find this info as "new", then what are doing about it?????

[Drake]

As much as I hate quoting Wikipedia, they do have this properly referenced and annotated...

"Water fluoridation is the controlled addition of fluoride to a public water supply to reduce tooth decay. Fluoridated water has fluoride at a level that is effective for preventing cavities; this can occur naturally or by adding fluoride.[2] Fluoridated water operates on tooth surfaces: in the mouth it creates low levels of fluoride in saliva, which reduces the rate at which tooth enamel demineralizes and increases the rate at which it remineralizes in the early stages of cavities.[3] Typically a fluoridated compound is added to drinking water, a process that in the U.S. costs an average of about $0.95 per person-year.[2][4] Defluoridation is needed when the naturally occurring fluoride level exceeds recommended limits.[5] A 1994 World Health Organization expert committee suggested a level of fluoride from 0.5 to 1.0 mg/L (milligrams per litre), depending on climate.[6] Bottled water typically has unknown fluoride levels, and some domestic water filters remove some or all fluoride.[7]

Dental cavities remain a major public health concern in most industrialized countries, affecting 60–90% of schoolchildren and the vast majority of adults.[8] Water fluoridation prevents cavities in both children and adults,[9] with studies estimating an 18–40% reduction in cavities when water fluoridation is used by children who already have access to toothpaste and other sources of fluoride.[2] Although water fluoridation can cause dental fluorosis, which can alter the appearance of developing teeth, most of this is mild and usually not considered to be of aesthetic or public-health concern.[10] There is no clear evidence of other adverse effects. Moderate-quality studies have investigated effectiveness; studies on adverse effects have been mostly of low quality.[11] Fluoride's effects depend on the total daily intake of fluoride from all sources. Drinking water is typically the largest source;[12] other methods of fluoride therapy include fluoridation of toothpaste, salt, and milk.[13] Water fluoridation, when feasible and culturally acceptable, has substantial advantages, especially for subgroups at high risk.[8] The U.S. Centers for Disease Control listed water fluoridation as one of the ten great public health achievements of the 20th century;[14] in contrast, most European countries have experienced substantial declines in tooth decay without its use, primarily due to the introduction of fluoride toothpaste in the 1970s. The use of topical fluorides (such as in toothpaste) to prevent caries among people living in both industrialized and developing countries may help supplant the need for fluoridated water.[3] Fluoridation may be more justified in the U.S. because of socioeconomic inequalities in dental health and dental care.[15] While water fluoridation is a predominantly American phenomenon,[16] it has been introduced to many countries to varying degrees[17] with many countries having water that is naturally fluoridated to recommended levels and others, such as in Europe, using fluoridated salts as an alternative source of fluoride.[18]

The goal of water fluoridation is to prevent a chronic disease whose burdens particularly fall on children and on the poor.[19] Its use presents a conflict between the common good and individual rights.[20] It is controversial,[21] and opposition to it has been based on ethical, legal, safety, and efficacy grounds.[22] Health and dental organizations worldwide have endorsed its safety and effectiveness.[3] Its use began in 1945, following studies of children in a region where higher levels of fluoride occur naturally in the water.[23] Researchers discovered that moderate fluoridation prevents tooth decay,[24] and as of 2004 about 400 million people worldwide received fluoridated water.[18]"


There's always a counterpoint.

[Hardwork108]

As much as I hate quoting Wikipedia, they do have this properly referenced and annotated...

"Water fluoridation is the controlled addition of fluoride to a public water supply to reduce tooth decay. Fluoridated water has fluoride at a level that is effective for preventing cavities; this can occur naturally or by adding fluoride.[2] Fluoridated water operates on tooth surfaces: in the mouth it creates low levels of fluoride in saliva, which reduces the rate at which tooth enamel demineralizes and increases the rate at which it remineralizes in the early stages of cavities.[3] Typically a fluoridated compound is added to drinking water, a process that in the U.S. costs an average of about $0.95 per person-year.[2][4] Defluoridation is needed when the naturally occurring fluoride level exceeds recommended limits.[5] A 1994 World Health Organization expert committee suggested a level of fluoride from 0.5 to 1.0 mg/L (milligrams per litre), depending on climate.[6] Bottled water typically has unknown fluoride levels, and some domestic water filters remove some or all fluoride.[7]

Dental cavities remain a major public health concern in most industrialized countries, affecting 60–90% of schoolchildren and the vast majority of adults.[8] Water fluoridation prevents cavities in both children and adults,[9] with studies estimating an 18–40% reduction in cavities when water fluoridation is used by children who already have access to toothpaste and other sources of fluoride.[2] Although water fluoridation can cause dental fluorosis, which can alter the appearance of developing teeth, most of this is mild and usually not considered to be of aesthetic or public-health concern.[10] There is no clear evidence of other adverse effects. Moderate-quality studies have investigated effectiveness; studies on adverse effects have been mostly of low quality.[11] Fluoride's effects depend on the total daily intake of fluoride from all sources. Drinking water is typically the largest source;[12] other methods of fluoride therapy include fluoridation of toothpaste, salt, and milk.[13] Water fluoridation, when feasible and culturally acceptable, has substantial advantages, especially for subgroups at high risk.[8] The U.S. Centers for Disease Control listed water fluoridation as one of the ten great public health achievements of the 20th century;[14] in contrast, most European countries have experienced substantial declines in tooth decay without its use, primarily due to the introduction of fluoride toothpaste in the 1970s. The use of topical fluorides (such as in toothpaste) to prevent caries among people living in both industrialized and developing countries may help supplant the need for fluoridated water.[3] Fluoridation may be more justified in the U.S. because of socioeconomic inequalities in dental health and dental care.[15] While water fluoridation is a predominantly American phenomenon,[16] it has been introduced to many countries to varying degrees[17] with many countries having water that is naturally fluoridated to recommended levels and others, such as in Europe, using fluoridated salts as an alternative source of fluoride.[18]

The goal of water fluoridation is to prevent a chronic disease whose burdens particularly fall on children and on the poor.[19] Its use presents a conflict between the common good and individual rights.[20] It is controversial,[21] and opposition to it has been based on ethical, legal, safety, and efficacy grounds.[22] Health and dental organizations worldwide have endorsed its safety and effectiveness.[3] Its use began in 1945, following studies of children in a region where higher levels of fluoride occur naturally in the water.[23] Researchers discovered that moderate fluoridation prevents tooth decay,[24] and as of 2004 about 400 million people worldwide received fluoridated water.[18]"


There's always a counterpoint.

There always is a counterpoint specially prepared by the establishment who is poisoning us. These counterpoints are to keep the yes-men and the, "Mr President knows best", soldier types on their side.

The government really cares for the health of your teeth, even though it is willing to send you and the country's young men (together with their healthy teeth) to war so that they can die for the profit of multinational companies and banks.

The same government, who are so concerned for the public and their teeth, are extorting, whoops sorry, taxing, their own population into poverty.

The same government plays part in false flag operations that kill her own citizens (and their nice teeth), in order to push along their nasty agendas, while it plays its part in the current engineered economic crisis to relieve the same population (and their nice teeth) of whatever they can get out of them, sending them into further poverty.

Internationally, the tooth caring US government creates wars and mayhem which result in millions of deaths, injuries and displacements. Wow, if only the those Iraquis had Fluoride in their water supplies, they would have been so much better off.............

Do you really believe that the US/UK/etc. governments gives a **** about your teeth? I mean how naive can you be?

[Drake]

You think 9/11 was staged based off of what? Youtube clips? Because someone else TOLD you so? You base your opinions off of unresearched, unconfirmed secondhand internet speculation and call ME naive?

What evidence of any of this have you seen yourself? Anything? Any lab tests? Colllaborative trips to Ground Zero, Iraq? Afghanistan?

Yet you happily swallow everything these nut jobs feed you... and call ME naive... funny stuff there...

[Hardwork108]

You think 9/11 was staged based off of what? Youtube clips? Because someone else TOLD you so? You base your opinions off of unresearched, unconfirmed secondhand internet speculation and call ME naive?
What evidence of any of this have you seen yourself?
It may surprise you but my evidence comes from the idiotic and retarded official version of the story!

Lets see now, the planes were highjacked, some over the most protected airspace over the US, and what was the reaction from the military? Oh yes, a 40 minute delayed reaction was the reaction!

Two planes hit New York, but bring down THREE buildings, the third one of which is mainly ignored by the media reports.

The planes exploded on impact into fire balls, yet the FBI gets their hands on the passport of one of the "terrorists". If the American people were not so dumbed down and trusting, then the week after this event, we would have had the whole of the Bush family, together with the **** Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, and others, hanging from the nearest trees to the Whitehouse!!!!

Who were these "terrorists"? Oh yes, they were largely middle class, alcohol drinking (one of them used drugs), and strip club frequenting, not to mention absent minded (they seemed to leave copies of the Koran and flight plans/manuels wherever they went). Just the type of guys you would expect to be suicide bombers...:rolleyes:


Anything? Any lab tests? Colllaborative trips to Ground Zero, Iraq? Afghanistan?

Yet you happily swallow everything these nut jobs feed you... and call ME naive... funny stuff there...
Compared to your official version of the 9-11 story the so called nut jobs make a lot of sense!

[Drake]

In the real world, we call that entire post "speculation". You have no facts, and are presuming them based on what we like to refer to as assumptions. You have no evidence other than what you think you have figured out from wherever it is that you are.

Please let me in on this FAA inside scoop that you have. Apparently you know what everyone in the military thinks, was thinking, and will think. You have it all figured out from the comfort of your own home. You have everyone pigeon-holed into their appropriate roles, and your story, though without a single solid fact, is a beautiful construct of an overactive imagination and a desire to think you "got it all figured out.

40 minute delay? Come on... think about it, and use some critical thinking. Drop your assumption that it was a consiracy. Give me a few other possibilities as to why there was a delay. Try to think outside of your fabricated story.

Here's a possibility for you to chew on:
We ignored the possibility of a plane being used as a weapon because we thought it was too outlandish. We also did not want to shoot down a civilian airliner, much less several of them, especially when we thought at best we'd have a simple hijacking, and not a suicide attack. Seeing as this form of attack was unprecedented at the time, and the fact that we beat up the USSR back in the 80s for doing the same thing, isn't this a plausible possibility?
Second part. AQ wanted to conduct these attacks, but had no idea that the planes would actually bring down the towers (this is based on actual video of AQ being surprised when they heard the results). Once what was done was done, AQ of course couldn't back down (think of the value of "face" in ME culture).



As for your Fluoride conspiracy, this whole thing was recommended by dentists, not the government. Using adequate, peer reviewed testing and research, they provided the government with compelling reason to engage in this, not vice versa.

So, HW, stop thinking so narrow mindedly, open yourself up to other possibilities, and stop parroting the stuff you see on Youtube. If you cannot come up with at least three other possible explanations for whatever it is you are talking about, then wouldn't that make YOU naive and brainwashed?

[Hardwork108]

In the real world, we call that entire post "speculation". You have no facts,

Well, here are a few facts:

1. Two planes brought down THREE buildings in their OWN footprints!!!!

2. There was about a 40 minute delay in reaction to the planes being hijacked. Is that usual, specially for the most protected airspace in the US. Is that how the US would have reacted in the Soviet era?

3. The "hijackers" were alcohol drinking (in at least one case, drug taking), individuals who frequented strip clubs. Has there ever been a suicide bomber with such MO, let alone multiple individuals? LOL

4. The FBI claimed to have found a passport that had survived the fireballs and building collapses...LOL!

And YOU a Military Intelligence officer don't see the BS? Talk about indoctrination!!!




and are presuming them based on what we like to refer to as assumptions. You have no evidence other than what you think you have figured out from wherever it is that you are.

I gave you some facts above. The evidence you so desperately seek is within those words.

Also, why were family members of Bin Ladin flown out of the US, immediately after 9-11, when no other air traffic was allowed over American airspace?

Why is there so little reference to the collapse of the third structure, building number 7, in the media?



Please let me in on this FAA inside scoop that you have. Apparently you know what everyone in the military thinks, was thinking, and will think. You have it all figured out from the comfort of your own home. You have everyone pigeon-holed into their appropriate roles, and your story, though without a single solid fact, is a beautiful construct of an overactive imagination and a desire to think you "got it all figured out.

My "story" is very logical when compared to the total fantasy BS fed to us by the official US government sources!


40 minute delay? Come on... think about it, and use some critical thinking. Drop your assumption that it was a consiracy. Give me a few other possibilities as to why there was a delay. Try to think outside of your fabricated story.

Let me see, the guys in charge of the radar control had hours of partying during the previous night, hence they were sleeping? There was foot ball game on during the hijacking?

Oh yes, now I know, and this is FACT. There were those military exercises which the media is not mentioning much either. Remember those? They are the ones where the military/airforce were rehearsing procedures for a more or less exact hijack scenario on the same day of the exact hijacks. Now, that might have put the actual honest military personnel who believe that they are doing for the good of the nation, off their stride.

Now, and please try and answer this question Mr Drake, what are the possibilities of an actual terrorist attack happening on the same location and on the same day of actual rehearsals for an exact such attack?

The problem with people such as yourself is that you are so indoctrinated that you do not fathom that your government would carry out evil and psychopathic acts of violence, hence you believe any cr@py explanation they give you, because "Mr President cares for the American people and would never do anything bad"...LOL


Here's a possibility for you to chew on:

Not the aliens again, I hope....lol



We ignored the possibility of a plane being used as a weapon because we thought it was too outlandish.
Weren't there previous (to 9-11) intelligence "warnings" that the "terrorists" would use a passenger plane and crash it into US buildings? I seem to remember your official media making references to this!



We also did not want to shoot down a civilian airliner,
Yes I know, it is much more fun bombing their homes and cities from above.:rolleyes:



much less several of them, especially when we thought at best we'd have a simple hijacking, and not a suicide attack.
If that were the case, then why were there no military planes escorting these airliners? Isn't that part of the procedure? Or did they leave them alone hoping that the "hijackers" would change their minds, or fall a sleep watching the onboard entertainment channels?



Seeing as this form of attack was unprecedented at the time, and the fact that we beat up the USSR back in the 80s for doing the same thing, isn't this a plausible possibility?

No it is NOT. Firstly, the US government has proven time and again that they do not give two bits for civilian lives!

Secondly, there is still the question of why the "hijacked" aircraft were not escorted and why it took so long to react to them.

Thirdly, what about the intelligence reports, referred to in the official media as regards possible hijack and crashing of airliners into US buildings?



Second part.
Yes, this is getting better and better....LOL


AQ wanted to conduct these attacks, but had no idea that the planes would actually bring down the towers

Look, Al Queda does not exist. It is a name given to a computer file in reference to the Afghan militia that the US was training to fight the Soviets, at the time of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Who said this? The ex and now departed UK Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, and no he did not wear a tin hat and did not believe that his cousin was from the Alpha Centuri star system!!!!




(this is based on actual video of AQ being surprised when they heard the results).

May I suggest that they were surprised by the WHOLE incident on 9-11 because they had absolutely nothing to do with it? LOL!



Once what was done was done, AQ of course couldn't back down (think of the value of "face" in ME culture).

To be honest, for a "Terrorist" organization who are not afraid to die for Allah, and who are fanatics, they took a long time to "admit" to the attacks......I would think about that, if I were you.....




As for your Fluoride conspiracy, this whole thing was recommended by dentists, not the government. Using adequate, peer reviewed testing and research, they provided the government with compelling reason to engage in this, not vice versa.

The pharmacutical industry, or Big Pharma, if you like, has great control on what doctors and dentists prescribe and recommend. Of course, none of this would be possible if the corrupt government did not play its part in the whole scam!


So, HW, stop thinking so narrow mindedly, open yourself up to other possibilities,

That is exactly what I am doing. That is, I don't believe the official version of these events, just because, "Mister President wouldn't lie to his people" fantasy. Or because I read it on some Intelligence memo sent to me with some feeble explanation, to keep my indoctrinated mind satisfied.


and stop parroting the stuff you see on Youtube.

Parroting is not a character trait that is usually associated with me. I believe that would apply more to military personnel, who by the nature of their training need to accept and do as they are told...



If you cannot come up with at least three other possible explanations for whatever it is you are talking about, then wouldn't that make YOU naive and brainwashed?

You can come up with as many "explanations" as you like to confuse the people, but there is only one truth to the story!

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[Hardwork108]

Here is a weblink that has more info on Fluoride and its "benefits":

http://www.tuberose.com/Fluoride.html

[Hardwork108]

For the Drakes and Syn7's of this world, watch and enlighten yourselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkaRkKwmPRw&feature=player_embedded

I want to see you argue your ways out of the information presented in the above video. LOL!


If you have the attention span and the balls, then please watch the other 4 parts to enlighten yourselves about the corruption that is engulfing you.

[Syn7]

yeah not to be a d1ck, but i dont really care... i dont use toothpaste and i dont drink tap water... well, i guess i do and not know it, but when i can help it i dont...

if i had my way i would have a cabin, a garden, a well and i'd be armed to the teeth... totally self sufficient... thats my ultimate goal... not retirement in boca... so all this is really irrelevant... if the human race dissapeared tomorrow, the universe wouldnt bat a lash... i just dont care... all this is intellectual stimulation for me, nothing more... i know who i am and what i want... and i know how to get it...



by the way, can you post a non alex jones vid once in a while??? god i hate that guys voice... he's just mad because he believed in the american dream once, then found out it wasnt true for just anyone and everyone and got his panties in a twist... none of this is new... this **** is deep... thousands of years deep... fukc it... survival of the fittest... i know i'll make it...

[Syn7]

besides, im much more concerned with things like cannabinoids biend classified as schedule one when they do infact have proven medical benefits... it has even been shown to kill cancer cells, but the dea shut those studies down real quick... im more concerned with what im not allowed to do than what is forced on me... like flouride...but thats just me... i dont even use toothpaste... so its just a non issue for me...

[Hardwork108]

yeah not to be a d1ck, but i dont really care... i dont use toothpaste and i dont drink tap water... well, i guess i do and not know it, but when i can help it i dont...

Yes, but that does not mean that what the authorities are doing is right. Also, you cannot be sure that you are not being poisoned in other ways.

If you have the time, then please watch all five parts of the videos posted.


if i had my way i would have a cabin, a garden, a well and i'd be armed to the teeth... totally self sufficient... thats my ultimate goal... not retirement in boca... so all this is really irrelevant...

Well, that is you and fair enough, but there are others who would like to be able to drink their tap water without risking having their brain functions altered or getting cancer.


by the way, can you post a non alex jones vid once in a while??? god i hate that guys voice...

And yet again, I am not posting his videos for people to like his voice. Besides, the last set of videos contained mainly another person talking.



he's just mad because he believed in the american dream once, then found out it wasnt true for just anyone and everyone and got his panties in a twist

That is a very simplified take. I would say that Alex Jones discovered the corruption and conspiracies, that shocked him. Then he decided to do something about it. I am guessing that our Drake here could be the next Alex Jones.....:D


... none of this is new... this **** is deep... thousands of years deep... fukc it... survival of the fittest... i know i'll make it...

Unfortunately, people armed to the teeth and living in the woods can be taken out very quickly after the onset of the dictatorship. That is, you will be labelled "Terrorists" and then got rid of, and the Drakes of this world will applaud the "patriotic" soldiers who do this type of things.

The best way is to put ones weapons down and protest by not conforming -not paying taxes; silly fines; and refuse to fight in colonial wars. If the population do that, it will bring the system down. That is because the controllers are minute in numbers when compared to the controlled, and they are petrified by the awakening of the masses. That is why you are seeing an escalation in wars, and the various "threats" that are shubbed down our throats to scare us into conformity and to take away our powers as citizens. That is why more and more we are attacke chemically by food additives, such as Fluoride, Aspartame, MSG, etc.

There is an all out war on humans, and yet most of them have the "Mister President wouldn't do that because he is a great guy, and we are the land of the free and god", mindset........ It is very sad, really...