Zhen Shan Gun-Guard the Mountain Staff

[Xian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhLyKoP2kBo

Does anyone know the master ? Looks very simple but I enjoy watching it.


Kind Regards,
Xian

[LFJ]

Video says he is Master Tai Qingfeng, 7th Duan, top national coach.

He's also a committee member of the Beijing Wushu Association.

[Xian]

Video says he is Master Tai Qingfeng, 7th Duan, top national coach.

He's also a committee member of the Beijing Wushu Association.

Thank you :)

[RenDaHai]

Yeah,

As above, This guy is famous for the set 'WuxingBafa' 5 forms and 8 methods. Which is a typical northern shaolin style set, except it includes 5 animals. NOt directly from shaolin temple but near shaolin are many versions of an animal set of the same name, and often start with the same posture but diverge afterwards.

His family style is called 'Da Jingang Quan' (Great Vajra Fist, Vajra being a buddhist guardian warrior). The Style contains a 'Luohan 18 shou' 'Wu Xing Ba Fa' 'ZhenShanGun' and 'Jin Gang Da Dao' respectively 'The 18 hands of the saints' '5 forms and 8 methods' 'mountain staff' and 'Vajra giant blade'.

[David Jamieson]

good techniques displayed there. nice execution.

[Xian]

Yeah,

As above, This guy is famous for the set 'WuxingBafa' 5 forms and 8 methods. Which is a typical northern shaolin style set, except it includes 5 animals. NOt directly from shaolin temple but near shaolin are many versions of an animal set of the same name, and often start with the same posture but diverge afterwards.

His family style is called 'Da Jingang Quan' (Great Vajra Fist, Vajra being a buddhist guardian warrior). The Style contains a 'Luohan 18 shou' 'Wu Xing Ba Fa' 'ZhenShanGun' and 'Jin Gang Da Dao' respectively 'The 18 hands of the saints' '5 forms and 8 methods' 'mountain staff' and 'Vajra giant blade'.

Thanks I have edited the Info with quoting you and refer my thanks to RenDaiHai. Hope this will be no problem :)


Kind Regards,
Xian

[SHemmati]

here is another form named Zhen Shan gun, by Shaolin monk Shi Deci:
Shaolin Zhen Shan gun (youtube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfd5q-yt8-E&list=PLE48D537F756421A2&index=8&feature=plpp_video)
however, this is different from the Shaolin famous zhen shan gun (Shi Decheng has a video clip of it).

i checked the names of the forms:
*Qin Qing Feng uses the name [B]Zhen (镇: guard) the mountain staff, but
*Shi Deci uses Zhen (震: shake) the mountain staff.
both names pronounced the same, zhen shan gun, but with different meanings.

[RenDaHai]

Hey All,

The first Zhen Shan Gun here is a good form. Its from that guys family style and is not song shan (I mean it could be, but its not there now). Just like WuXingBaFa Quan its a form from outside.

The one you just posted above (ShiDeCi) is not a good form. It is pointless. A mess. This is probably a recently constructed form, designed to look traditional but designed by someone who didin't think about it for more than an afternoon. Probably just for the VCD.

I guess they may have found a QuanPu, old manual of the form ZhenShanGun but couldn't really understand it and came up with this. It is also far too short.


There are many forms even within song shan which are completely different but share the same name. On closer investigation they may be different roads of the same old style.

YinSHou Gun for example has 6 sets. Good luck finding all of them though. I found someone who knew them, but he was too 'BaoShou'.... Wouldn't teach them.

[LFJ]

this man is well-known and has several videos and books on the styles that RenDaHai mentioned. (seems Ren knows him very well.) his name is "Qin Qing Feng (秦庆丰)".

[i used my PDF Chinese dictionary to find these **** Chinese words! LFJ has erroneously read the first word as Tai (泰) while it is Qin (秦). can Chinese people actually distinguish these two words from each other?! ah God ****!]

Apparently not when it's too small, lol! He's called Tai on this website for example, but it does appear to be Qin in the video: http://www.beauty128.com/product_list.php?actor=%E6%B3%B0%E5%BA%86%E4%B8%B0

It appears you're correct though. Qin Qingfeng. Here is his Baidu bio: http://baike.baidu.com/view/2396940.htm

[Bacon]

Now THAT is a Kung fu form!

[SHemmati]

this one is the famous Shaolin temple zhen shan staff:

Shaolin Zhen Shan gun [by Shi De Cheng] (youtube.com) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyAR1mNqPOQ)