Dumbocrats

[Syn7]

alan simpson... what a piece of work that guy is... now he's all over the "entitlements" arguments... here's his uber educated response to a question about why he wants to cut social security...


Here's President Obama's deficit commission co-chair on Fox News.

?This is a fakery,? Simpson said on Fox News. ?If they care at all about their children or grandchildren, and sometimes I doubt that?I think, you know, grandchildren now don?t write a thank-you for the Christmas presents, they?re walking on their pants with the cap on backwards listening to the enema man and Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dogg, and they don?t like them!?


WTF??? :confused: what the h3ll is that??? sounds like he doesnt like his grandkids, lol... but what does that have to do with social security??? he feels they just dont deserve it??? i hate how they cloud the issue... this is a simple scenario... people already paid into social security... all it is is basically a way tro explain off and cover up the fact that that money has already been stolen and spent... thats why they cant afford it, coz they already took the money they had no right to take... thats like dipping into my savings account to subsidize big oil and wall street... thats crazy??? not enough people are upset about this... its a direct assault on hard working people... you are getting it from both parties... they want whats yours and it seems people are, for the most part, content to just let it happen... theyre too focused on celebs and shiny stuff...


i dont like obamas choices of staff... he can do so much better... i mean, bring in new people... non wall street staple type guys... find people that are actually interested in cleanin things up... somebody who isnt already a millionaire made from what they are supposed to be watching over...

[Syn7]

does anyone here still believe obama will bring in sweeping reforms and major change in washington??? does anyone agree with everything obama has done? the million and one things he's caved on??? does anyone have any faith in this man, what so ever??? he lied about gitmo, wall street, just to name two big ones... maybe he did mean it when he first said it, but his lack of cajones has left him limp... well, at least he's not caving on everything and he's still better than mccain/palin or some mitt romney huckabee horror show... but really, WTF is up with big shot federal democrats moving away from their core values??? were they bought that quickly??? seems fast, but money talks, i guess... within ten years obama will have a portfolio in the hundreds of millions... mark my words... anyone believe in this man??? or is just that at least he's better than a republican???


:confused:


anyone???


that should be his slogan for 2012...
"hey, i may not be a real democrat, but at least im not a republican either."

or

"anything is preferable to the far right."



also look at all the people that are comming out and saying how dissapointed they are... like matt damon... and that guy was all about obama before... now he's saying that obama is far too conservative and didnt change any of the systems he said he'd change... obamacare is the only thing he did that he really promissed to do in the campaign...

[Syn7]

about alan simpson:


You may ask, why is this man testifying before the Senate Finance Committee tomorrow? That's a very good question. Particularly since Chairman Kent Conrad has asked Simpson and his co-chair, Erskine Bowles, to testify "about the final report of the National Commission."

It's an even better question considering that there was no final report of the National Commission. The commission failed to issue a final report. Not that inconvenient truths like that will deter Kent Conrad from his favorite deficit peac0ckery hobby horse, Social Security. Not even the massive embarrassment to the public discourse that is Alan Simpson.


http://leftword.blogdig.net/archives/articles/March2011/07/Alan_Simpson_s_Social_Security_expertise___Snoopy_ Snoopy_Poop_Dogg_.html

[David Jamieson]

No, I've changed my mind about Obama.

He has changed nothing, has not kept his election promises and falls into one gaff after another.

The other side of the coin is even worse.

America, thee are truly fukced.

[Lucas]

America, thee are truly fukced.

its ok. most of us are just waiting for the zombie apoc. if that doesnt happen,

[David Jamieson]

whimper, no bang.

that's how it goes.

[Syn7]

yeah you gotta wonder how many people that campaigned so hard for him and spoke so highly of him are timid to speak out about his failures... sometimes people just wont admit they were wrong, even if it hurts them... too bad there wont be a primary challenge... basically, for the next 6 years, barack obama is the best the US can do... and thats just sad... even more sad than our choices up here...

[Syn7]

obama actually asked the palestinians to put off their plans in the UN till after 2012... apparently he really said this behind the scenes... does anyone have a source for this??? coz thats crazy... especially since he just rammed his fist up their asses with that veto... unbelievable... 5 million jews occupy all this land and shove 4 million palestinians into two smalll pockets of cluster fukc... and its not like they took israel, it was given to them by the british and friends... without that support they wouldnt have gotten so strong... im all for a jewish state, for sure... but share... theyre lucky they have what they have... these people have been knocked around for a long time, for lots of reasons...

two states, share, make it happen... back off the territories to start... and stop killing kids and sh1t, geeeeeeez...


can anyone source the obama part???

[Hardwork108]

No, I've changed my mind about Obama.

He has changed nothing, has not kept his election promises and falls into one gaff after another.


Well, about time you realized that. I have been saying that to my friend Drake since Obama's election. Ironically, as an intelligence officer he got one of his best pieces of info from me and not his commanding officer....:D



America, thee are truly fukced.

And the rest of the world is next, unless the awakening speeds up...

[Syn7]

The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

[Hardwork108]

The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/

Here, you can even watch it in documentary format, that really explains why there are no differences between the Obama and the "Democrats" and the "Republicans":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw



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[Syn7]

yeah thats old.... theres even more info now...



if anything, the good part is the kennedy thing.... kennedy is abolishing the fed and pulling outta the nam and BOOM, dead...


"They put a black face on the new world order, and now we all happy. KRS ain't buyin' it."
- Lawrence K. Parker A.K.A. KRS One



Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everybody
Call up KRS, I'm guaranteed to rip a party


http://www.xxlmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/scott-la-rock-krs-bw.gif

[Syn7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnI8JEW7Ty4&feature=player_embedded




golden age of hiphop.....


i cant believe they consor "As I spark mad iszm"??? wtf... yall soft...:p

[Hardwork108]

yeah thats old.... theres even more info

It may be "old" for you and I, but there are still people here who think that the Fed is the national bank of the USA. That is, they think it is government owned...LOL!


These people include a certain intelligence officer posting here....I really need to have a word with his C.O. ...:D

[Syn7]

i have no doubt that drake knows exactly how the fed came to be... im sure how knows about the barely occupied room near xmas ramming it thru when everyone was away with family... a huge mistake on their part... never EVER leave a mneeting in the hands of the enemy... EVER... anyways, im sure drake knows all this... its no secret that its as "public private partnership"... most people know that... where the problem lies is in their faith of the president... they say "welol the prez gets to big top dog, so how bad can it be"... those are the dumb people, the enemy... drake's no dummy... and he knows about the globalists... he just doesnt see it the way YOU see it... thats all... i dont even know drake, and i know that much about him... just read his posts...

[Hardwork108]

i have no doubt that drake knows exactly how the fed came to be... im sure how knows about the barely occupied room near xmas ramming it thru when everyone was away with family... a huge mistake on their part... never EVER leave a mneeting in the hands of the enemy... EVER... anyways, im sure drake knows all this... its no secret that its as "public private partnership"... most people know that... where the problem lies is in their faith of the president... they say "welol the prez gets to big top dog, so how bad can it be"... those are the dumb people, the enemy... drake's no dummy... and he knows about the globalists... he just doesnt see it the way YOU see it... thats all... i dont even know drake, and i know that much about him... just read his posts...

I will say one thing, and that is, intelligence is relative.

Drake, has in the past denied that the Fed is a privately owned organization. Furthermore, he believes Iraq was invaded because, among other reasons, Saddam Hussain had apparently said that he had weapons of mass destruction....no matter that his country was occupied by the most technologically advanced military forces on the planet, who could not find them, during ten years of searching. Nevermind the fact that UN inspectors had not found them, so much so that one of them came out and said that claims of such weapons were exaggerated to justify an invasion. Of course, as you probably know, that particular individual was found dead some time after his statements. Suicide apparently...:rolleyes:

As for the NWO and Globalists, it would be interesting to hear Drake's view on this through, for once, a straight statement, and not accusations of tin hat wearing "conspiracy theorists" making things up!

[Drake]

Yes, Drake DID say that... and it would appear that others agree with what I knew years ago.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html

[Hardwork108]

Yes, Drake DID say that... and it would appear that others agree with what I knew years ago.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/01/AR2009070104217.html

LOL!

So, the most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet did not perceive that someone like Saddam Hussain could be bluffing??? Especially, when they were apparently searching for those very alleged weapons inside an invaded and defeated country for a DECADE??? LOL

The Washington Post article is a feeble attempt at whitewash, by the very system that is part of the NWO!

By the way, do you still believe that the Federal Reserve is a government owned institution, or have you finally realized that it is a private banking cartel that is extorting money out of the US citizens and controls everything in the America, including the government.

[Hardwork108]

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tinfoil_h/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Wow, it is good to see finally what you really look like. However, be warned, we, the Kung fu Forum posters, do not take kindly to tin hat wearers....;)

[Hardwork108]

It is amazing how otherwise intelligent people, do not see beyond their noses, when their emotional/psychological comfort zones are at risk......

[Hardwork108]

Freud would have a field day with you.

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenhangover3.jpg

I believe that Freud was overated.....

[Drake]

Says the guy who believes people who say depleted uranium was a weapon for genocide.

[Hardwork108]

Says the guy who believes people who say depleted uranium was a weapon for genocide.


A little lost in the woods, I see....

This just proves my theory that before brainwashing the masses, the system first indoctrinates (read: brainwashes) its own servants, as it cannot afford decent!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/30/faulluja-birth-defects-iraq

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/95178_du12.shtml

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

The information contained in the above articles should provide food for thought, for those who are capable of thinking, that is!

[Syn7]

so does anyone think that the dems will take a stand anytime soon??? they should take a page from the republicans, rather than always trying to meet in the middle they need to bring the fight to the other side of the aisle... stop being such pu$$ies...

well, looks like a few congressman have started to speak up about the lack of backbone in the whitehouse... i love it... this president is a joke, not a democrat...

[Hardwork108]

so does anyone think that the dems will take a stand anytime soon??? they should take a page from the republicans, rather than always trying to meet in the middle they need to bring the fight to the other side of the aisle... stop being such pu$$ies...

well, looks like a few congressman have started to speak up about the lack of backbone in the whitehouse... i love it... this president is a joke, not a democrat...

They are all jokes. When will you people understand that there is no difference "Democrats" and "Republicans". They are there to create an illusion of choice for the masses. The same is true for most, if not all, other countries on this earth.

Christ, they are not even trying to hide it anymore. Obama, kept some George W.Bush staff in his government!

A lot of "Democrats" and "Republicans" are members of the same Masonic lodges. They are also members of political organizations such as Council of Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, as well as others. These organizations have goals, and no matter from what party you are in, if you are a member, then you are agreeing and carrying out these goals.

Is this concept so difficult to understand?

[Syn7]

anyone???????????

[Syn7]

Obama Treasury Celebrates Bailout Profits While Ignoring Costs, Legacy


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/30/obama-treasury-celebrates-bailout-profits_n_842747.html

[Syn7]

okay... so who wants to take bets that obama will cave on the cuts thing??? he put his foot down yesterday and said 33 billion was his limit... im betting he'll cave and give more... anyone disagree???

i think he'll go atleast 7billion more...

[BJJ-Blue]

He should cave. We are dead broke. And the worst part of it is this - Obama, Reid, and Pelosi ADMIT this. Yet they are playing politics with the budget. They were supposed to have done this already. Before the November elections, when they controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, a budget was due. They did not present a budget because they didn't want the voters to see how bad it was before the elections. Had they presented and passed a budget when they were supposed to, this wouldn't be going on now. And they still haven't presented a budget yet! They are just blasting the GOP proposal. Where's their proposal?

If we do not cut some programs now, in 10 years we will be forced to eliminate programs.

[Drake]

He should cave. We are dead broke. And the worst part of it is this - Obama, Reid, and Pelosi ADMIT this. Yet they are playing politics with the budget. They were supposed to have done this already. Before the November elections, when they controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, a budget was due. They did not present a budget because they didn't want the voters to see how bad it was before the elections. Had they presented and passed a budget when they were supposed to, this wouldn't be going on now. And they still haven't presented a budget yet! They are just blasting the GOP proposal. Where's their proposal?

If we do not cut some programs now, in 10 years we will be forced to eliminate programs.

Nobody is the good guy here. Republicans just made up some ridiculous bill that would ensure we are paid, BUT decided to add on crap that had absolutely nothing to do with us, ensuring the bill would be vetoed and the democrats would look anti-military. That is low and sick, considering how nerve wracked a lot of soldiers and families are.
Despicable act.

[BJJ-Blue]

Nobody is the good guy here. Republicans just made up some ridiculous bill that would ensure we are paid, BUT decided to add on crap that had absolutely nothing to do with us, ensuring the bill would be vetoed and the democrats would look anti-military. That is low and sick, considering how nerve wracked a lot of soldiers and families are.
Despicable act.

Ok then. So where is the Democrats proposal? Who is the 'Party of No' now?

And fyi, I do think it's ridiculous you guys aren't getting paid if this shutdown happens. Especially since the Medicaid checks are still going out if the Gov't shuts down.

[Drake]

Ok then. So where is the Democrats proposal? Who is the 'Party of No' now?

And fyi, I do think it's ridiculous you guys aren't getting paid if this shutdown happens. Especially since the Medicaid checks are still going out if the Gov't shuts down.

The democrats did create a proposal. Republicans rejected it.

[Drake]

Ok then. So where is the Democrats proposal? Who is the 'Party of No' now?

And fyi, I do think it's ridiculous you guys aren't getting paid if this shutdown happens. Especially since the Medicaid checks are still going out if the Gov't shuts down.

My reports will all be blank until I am paid. Just a single line will be there. "Where's my money?"

[MasterKiller]

Ok then. So where is the Democrats proposal? Who is the 'Party of No' now?

And fyi, I do think it's ridiculous you guys aren't getting paid if this shutdown happens. Especially since the Medicaid checks are still going out if the Gov't shuts down.

You do realize Boehner made a deal with the Democrats, but it was rejeced by the Republicans when he took it back for review because they want SOCIAL policy changes added into the bill...?

[BJJ-Blue]

The democrats did create a proposal. Republicans rejected it.

I believe you are incorrect. I saw Charlie Rangel on the news this morning (it was a live interview), and when asked about where the Democrats proposal was he just laughed.


My reports will all be blank until I am paid. Just a single line will be there. "Where's my money?"

Maybe you should have just went on welfare instead of choosing to be a great man and defend our freedoms. Then you wouldn't have to worry about your money.

That alone should show you where our priorities are and why we do need to fix this mess.

[BJJ-Blue]

You do realize Boehner made a deal with the Democrats, but it was rejeced by the Republicans when he took it back for review because they want SOCIAL policy changes added into the bill...?

Can you be more specific? I believe you are correct, but I want to be sure. Also, when you mention "social policy changes", are you referring to defunding Planned Parenthood and NPR, or are you talking about them trying to enact new laws and just attaching those parts to the funding bill(s)?

And again, the Democrats have not only not submitted a proposal, but had they passed a budget in September when it's supposed to be done, we wouldn't even be having this discussion now. The Gov't would have been funded until Sept 2011.

[Drake]

I believe you are incorrect. I saw Charlie Rangel on the news this morning (it was a live interview), and when asked about where the Democrats proposal was he just laughed.



Maybe you should have just went on welfare instead of choosing to be a great man and defend our freedoms. Then you wouldn't have to worry about your money.

That alone should show you where our priorities are and why we do need to fix this mess.

Maybe you are in no position to judge me. I'll be in Afghanistan this summer. What about you? What, in fact, have you ever done to help this country? I'm heading into my second deployment, thank you very much. I'm not worried about my money. I'm worried about rent, utilities, and food during this indefinite time of utter imcompetence. And guess what, BJJ? I can't even go get another job in the meantime. So I am stuck working longer hours than you can even imagine while my rent, utilities, and food bills will go unpaid. You again confirmed your utter lack of empathy for anyone except yourself.

And it's reverse welfare when someone expects someone else to work for free. You, again, have zero perspective on a topic you are woefully unqualified to discuss. How many hours do you work a week? How many weeks do you have spend away from your family, living in the middle of nowhere full of people wanting to kill you? Yeah, I volunteered for this, and I am upholding my end of the bargain. Too bad the sad excuse for congress cannot uphold theirs by ensuring, as they always promise and say is a priority, families and soldiers are taken care of. You can't refuse to pay an Army. It doesn't work. Ever.

And WTF is up with your rebuttal to the democrats' plan? Charlie Rangel just laughed? That says NOTHING except that the GOP has successfully brought their nation to a grinding halt, and are laughing about it. Awesome.

[BJJ-Blue]

Maybe you are in no position to judge me. I'll be in Afghanistan this summer. What about you? What, in fact, have you ever done to help this country? I'm heading into my second deployment, thank you very much. I'm not worried about my money. I'm worried about rent, utilities, and food during this indefinite time of utter imcompetence. And guess what, BJJ? I can't even go get another job in the meantime. So I am stuck working longer hours than you can even imagine while my rent, utilities, and food bills will go unpaid. You again confirmed your utter lack of empathy for anyone except yourself.

Whoa whoa! Dude, I'm on your side!!!

I'm ashamed that in this country welfare recipients are guaranteed to get their checks while military personnel are not. That's ****** up. The only judging I did concerning you was calling you a great man for defending this country.


And it's reverse welfare when someone expects someone else to work for free. You can't refuse to pay an Army. It doesn't work. Ever.

I agree. However it looks like you don't think I do. I'm furious you guys are getting screwed while those on the dole are not.


And WTF is up with your rebuttal to the democrats' plan? Charlie Rangel just laughed? That says NOTHING except that the GOP has successfully brought their nation to a grinding halt, and are laughing about it. Awesome.

Charlie Rangel is a Democrat. So it's the Democrats who are laughing at it.



But do you really want to get angry? Try this one on: Rush Limbaugh called this months ago. When the last budget was due around September and the Democrats didn't even submit one, he said they were not going to pass one, and wait til the GOP took over then shut down the Government and blame the GOP. He also said they would play the 'The GOP wants to starve kids, throw old people out on the street, make seniors eat dog food. etc' and he got that right too.

So you want to get mad about people playing politics with the budget, get mad at those guys who have been doing it since September, not the guys who just took office in January.

[Drake]

Well... it already started. Getting a very small paycheck next week. Nothing planned for end of month. I WAS going to buy some extra gear for my upcoming deployment. Guess not.

Funny thing is, we used to tell the Iraqis all matter of factly how it only made sense they'd have deserters if they didn't pay them.

I'd worry more about the wrath of the military spouses instead of the soldiers.

[Drake]

Whoa whoa! Dude, I'm on your side!!!

I'm ashamed that in this country welfare recipients are guaranteed to get their checks while military personnel are not. That's ****** up. The only judging I did concerning you was calling you a great man for defending this country.



I agree. However it looks like you don't think I do. I'm furious you guys are getting screwed while those on the dole are not.



Charlie Rangel is a Democrat. So it's the Democrats who are laughing at it.



But do you really want to get angry? Try this one on: Rush Limbaugh called this months ago. When the last budget was due around September and the Democrats didn't even submit one, he said they were not going to pass one, and wait til the GOP took over then shut down the Government and blame the GOP. He also said they would play the 'The GOP wants to starve kids, throw old people out on the street, make seniors eat dog food. etc' and he got that right too.

So you want to get mad about people playing politics with the budget, get mad at those guys who have been doing it since September, not the guys who just took office in January.

Sorry if I misread you, BJJ... I'm just pretty furious right now. More for my soldiers with kids than myself.

[BJJ-Blue]

Sorry if I misread you, BJJ... I'm just pretty furious right now. More for my soldiers with kids than myself.

It's ok, I can understand your anger and frustration.

Again, I can't believe that you guys are not covered as "essentials" who get paid even when there is a shutdown. It's ridiculous. Hopefully this will get changed so it won't happen in the future.

For whats it worth, I'll be praying for all of you guys.

[Drake]

All they need to do is send up a clean bill just for the Department of Defense. That's all. They can't even do that. They HAVE to have stupid riders and cuts that have nothing to do with us. Then they use it to blame the democrats? How freaking childish can you get?