Today in History

[David Jamieson]

Today marks the fall of the Ming empire with the suicide of it's Emperor and the ushering in of the Qing which lasted another 250+ years until the end of all dynastic houses in China.

April 25 -1644 = Ming no More.

This is not without significance to the legends and mythology, stories and meanings behind a lot of the Kung Fu and the various philosophies that people practice all over the world.

:)

[B.Tunks]

Also ANZAC day. Commemoration of approx 12,000 Australian, New Zealand (including Tongan, Cook Islands, Niuean and Samoan) soldiers slaughtered like dogs on behalf of the British at Gallipoli in 1915.

[taai gihk yahn]

Also ANZAC day. Commemoration of approx 12,000 Australian, New Zealand (including Tongan, Cook Islands, Niuean and Samoan) soldiers slaughtered like dogs on behalf of the British at Gallipoli in 1915.

gonna go play me "Waltzing Matilda" by the Pogues now...

[SPJ]

ming emporor

as the last one of the ming

the only honorable thing to do is to end his own life

qing did not want him alive or in refugee

b/c he will be the inspiration for people to resist qing.

there is southern ming

and then general cheng

he retook taiwan from the dutch

he then based his anti qing restoring ming movement in taiwan.

his son eventually surrendered to qing.

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[David Jamieson]

wtf has Gallipoli got to do with Kung Fu?

:rolleyes:

[Ben Gash]

Wow, Hung Men retro history to the max SPJ. Chongzhen committed suicide because the capital was about to be overrun by Li Zicheng's peasant rebellion, who would have executed him. He was the last Ming because he'd just killed his family prior to his suicide (although again not really true, his sons survived him). His death ushered in the short lived Shun dynasty of Li Zicheng, which in turn was defeated by the Qing a year later having been invited in by the surviving northern Ming nobility and generals.
Chongzhen's death had nothing to do with the Qing and everything to do with 50 years of popular dissatisfaction with the Ming starting with the poor later rule of his great-grandfather the Wanli emporor.

[bawang]

the hongwu emperor was the last great hero in chinese history. bless him

[Scott R. Brown]

wtf has Gallipoli got to do with Kung Fu?

:rolleyes:

They don't share ANY letters!:eek:

I am sure that reflects some cosmic connection!

Where is CYMac when we need him?:confused: