Obama kills Bin Laden

[MasterKiller]

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[MasterKiller]

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[Drake]

So, I'm not deploying then? :D

[MasterKiller]

http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/terror/front.jpg

[Syn7]

i dont get why you posted that last pic???

the eagle pic is fresh tho... love it... ima copy that one, gotta crop out the border and words tho... the pic is good enough on its own...

[MasterKiller]

i dont get why you posted that last pic???

the eagle pic is fresh tho... love it... ima copy that one, gotta crop out the border and words tho... the pic is good enough on its own...

You don't get the significance of firefighters holding a flag on the day American intelligence kills Osama Bin Laden?

[Drake]

Well... looks like Obama scored himself four more years.

[MasterKiller]

Well... looks like Obama scored himself four more years.

Fox News will demand to see the Death Certificate long form...

[Drake]

Fox News will demand to see the Death Certificate long form...

Trump killed him.

[Syn7]

trump sure made an ass of himself the other day didnt he... he showed just how insecure he really is... i would never vote for a man that cant laugh at himself... trump is the biggest retard... i hope he gets the nomination just so he can get thrashed by a real politician... not some trumped up half assed manager wannabee... should call him dr. bankrupt... the guy bankrupts casinos, i didnt even tknow that was possible... he's such a tit...

[wenshu]

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[Syn7]

You don't get the significance of firefighters holding a flag on the day American intelligence kills Osama Bin Laden?

i do now...

i didnt know they actually got him... i thought it was just a cheeky thread as an excuse to post pics...

my pops was actually a part of that firemans parade thing they did right after 9/11... firemen from all over the world went down to participate... he got maaad love walking around in the dress uniform... everyone treated him like a hero...

[r.(shaolin)]

US Special Ops. You guys are the real Shaolin!

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/bin-laden-dead-u-s-official-says/?pagemode=print

r.

[Hebrew Hammer]

Fox News will demand to see the Death Certificate long form...

I'm pretty sure Fox News is drumming up away to figure out how it was really Ronald Reagan who pulled the trigger.

[PHILBERT]

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[David Jamieson]

http://i.imgur.com/zK4jI.gif

yep, that's pretty much what happened.

lol, that's awesome!

[sanjuro_ronin]

10 freaking years...
*Shakes head*
They could have done it that first month.

[BJJ-Blue]

Good thing the community organizer didn't close Gitmo as he said he would do.

[hskwarrior]

Without a body how do we really know Bin Laden was actually killed? if this is true where is the picture of his dead body?

[BJJ-Blue]

Without a body how do we really know Bin Laden was actually killed? if this is true where is the picture of his dead body?

I doubt they would lie about this. If the guy shows up on tape with a current newspaper or some other timestamp, the jig is up. No way anyone would risk that imo.

[JamesC]

Didn't they say he was shot in the head?

Probably a good chance we wouldn't recognize him anyhow.

[hskwarrior]

I find it very suspicious that close to election time Obama killed Osama.

[MasterKiller]

I find it very suspicious that close to election time Obama killed Osama.

What, you mean 1 1/2 years????

[David Jamieson]

You aren't having an election for another year and a half.
there is no campaign on.

Should he have waited for a convenient more believable moment? They were watching for almost a whole year before they moved on him with enough actually good intel this time to get it done.

There is no satisfying some Americans it seems.

This likely explains the obesity problem. Never satisfied, never enough. :rolleyes:

[hskwarrior]

What, you mean 1 1/2 years????

Obama's rep approval rating is dropping really bad. i think this was a great opportunity to possibly get re-elected. 1.5 years isn't all that long.

i still think its suspicious. not all that serious to me, but suspiciously suspicious. LOL

[hskwarrior]

There is no satisfying some Americans it seems.

Canadians complain about American far too much. LOL


Should he have waited for a convenient more believable moment? They were watching for almost a whole year before they moved on him with enough actually good intel this time to get it done.

I don't trust government. So we should just trust their word that Osama was taken out? Come on man, i watch 24!!!! LMAO

[Drake]

Good thing the community organizer didn't close Gitmo as he said he would do.

It's hard to unf*ck incompetence. One previous administration screwup fix at a time.

[BJJ-Blue]

It's hard to unf*ck incompetence. One previous administration screwup fix at a time.

huh? :confused:

[Drake]

huh? :confused:

GITMO. GITMO is a tangled nightmare with no easy solution. The impetus for the closing of it SHOULD have been on the guy who opened it. I can't believe you are criticizing someone for being unable to un-eff Bush's HUGE mistake.

And WTF? We get OBL and you come back with "What about GITMO?". Fmr Pres Bush couldn't do either. ESPECIALLY when we had him at Tora Bora, and the CinC hands it over to the Northern Alliance.

What about GITMO, you ask? Give our President time. Stop pestering him for birth certificates, college records, DNA samples, etc, and let the man do his job.

[BJJ-Blue]

GITMO.

I just pointed out that the community organizer promised to shut it down. FYI, I'm glad he didn't and I supported Bush on it too.


And WTF? We get OBL and you come back with "What about GITMO?".

I heard that the info came from a Gitmo interrogation. Assuming that's correct, one of 2 things happened: 1) either the info came during Bush's years, meaning his interrogation policies got the info, or 2)the info came while the community organizer was President. And had he closed it as he promised to do, the guy would still be alive.


Stop pestering him for birth certificates, college records, DNA samples, etc, and let the man do his job.

I'm not. I've openly stated he likely was born here before he released the document he spent years trying to cover up. Trump is asking for the transcripts. FYI, Bush released his, and he wasn't exactly the top of his class. I've not heard anyone asking for DNA.

[Drake]

The intel didn't come from GITMO.

[BJJ-Blue]

The intel didn't come from GITMO.

You should know better than I. But that's what I heard on the news today. I'm sure it will be cleared up here soon.

[David Jamieson]

Intel more than likely came from AF-PAK allies.

Pakistan would like USA to stop predator bombing them, so they gave up the boogeyman. Pretty cut and dried op if you ask me.

W could have done it. But didn't and that's the rub right there.

Obama could have done it, and did it.

nuff said. :)

[MasterKiller]

You should know better than I. But that's what I heard on the news today. I'm sure it will be cleared up here soon.

Rumsfeld is just trying to cover his own ass. He's the one who said that. No one else has, to my knowledge.

[BJJ-Blue]

W could have done it. But didn't and that's the rub right there.

I've not heard that one. And considering you are either dead-wrong or fabricate things quite a bit,....

I do know Clinton was offered him before 9/11, and he took a pass.

[wenshu]

Intel more than likely came from AF-PAK allies.

Pakistan would like USA to stop predator bombing them, so they gave up the boogeyman. Pretty cut and dried op if you ask me.

W could have done it. But didn't and that's the rub right there.

Obama could have done it, and did it.

nuff said. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Faraj_al-Libbi

Dude's in gitmo. Intel as to the identity of the "trusted courier" whose trail lead them to Bin Laden came msot likely from Al-Libbi.

[David Jamieson]

I've not heard that one. And considering you are either dead-wrong or fabricate things quite a bit,....

I do know Clinton was offered him before 9/11, and he took a pass.

what resources does Obama have that Bush did not?
Bush never went after OBL.
Osama just finished up 8 months of getting it together for go time.

Badabing, badaboom, done. Courtesy of a democrat. woot! :p

I can't believe you had not heard that Bush could've done it. He could've, but he didn't.

[BJJ-Blue]

Bush never went after OBL.

:rolleyes: Once again I wish we had a 'facepalm' icon.


I can't believe you had not heard that Bush could've done it. He could've, but he didn't.

Never heard it before now. Please provide a source on that, I'm curious if you're right or dead-wrong. I know what history shows in relation to you and the facts....

[Reality_Check]

President Bush said the finding Osama Bin Laden was not a priority.

March 2002: (http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html)


Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

July 2006: (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html)


C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden

The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.

The unit, known as Alec Station, was disbanded late last year and its analysts reassigned within the C.I.A. Counterterrorist Center, the officials said.

The decision is a milestone for the agency, which formed the unit before Osama bin Laden became a household name and bolstered its ranks after the Sept. 11 attacks, when President Bush pledged to bring Mr. bin Laden to justice "dead or alive.

September 2006: (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/696wnfcp.asp)


WE NOW KNOW WHY the Bush administration hasn't made the capture of Osama bin Laden a paramount goal of the war on terror. Emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism. Here's how President Bush explained this Tuesday: "This thing about . . . let's put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work."

[GeneChing]

"I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

[BJJ-Blue]

He said Bush could've done this, but didnt. That's what I'm looking for, evidence of that. While Bush may well have said it wasn't his top priority, I don't believe for a second he ever had info as to where exactly the guy was and said, 'Dont worry about it, we don't want that guy.'

[Syn7]

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thats awesome... im so glad the birther thing is dead...

who wants to bet on what percent of the population will still insist they think he's not american or unsure... i bet it will be like 20 % or higher... lol

the fact that it went this far is pretty sad tho...

[Syn7]

You people are so divisive. Half you fukcers are just contrarians.

[Badger]

Obama killed Osama? I doubt ol' Zero could even lift a gun much less fire it...& much much less qualify as a Seal..
but hey good job of him giving to go ahead to kill the Bastich...

God bless our warriors for killin' Aholes!!!

[BJJ-Blue]

the fact that it went this far is pretty sad tho...

It is, especially considering the community organizer could have just released it 2 years ago instead of spending millions to keep it hidden.

[Reality_Check]

It is, especially considering the community organizer could have just released it 2 years ago instead of spending millions to keep it hidden.

Except that he did release his birth certificate in 2008. People like you just refused to accept it. As for the "millions" canard:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/


Donald Trump claims Obama has spent $2 million in legal fees defending lawsuits about his birth certificate

...

When fact-checking, we think the onus is on the person making the claim to back up his statement. And the only backing we've seen in this case is that the Obama campaign's legal team spent more than $2 million on legal fees since the election ended. It's clear to us that the WND story has been twisted to wrongly assume that every dollar the Obama campaign spent on legal fees went to fight the release of Obama's birth certificate. The evidence shows that's simply not true. It's a huge, unsubstantiated leap to assume that all, or most, of that was related to lawsuits about Obama's citizenship. We rule Trump's claim False.

[BJJ-Blue]

Except that he did release his birth certificate in 2008. People like you just refused to accept it. As for the "millions" canard:

People like me? My ass. Look over my posts on the subject, which we all see you are good at doing. I openly said I wasn't sure either way.

And he released the long form to the public and the media in 2008? Really??? I, the press, and the rest of the nation must have missed that. :rolleyes:

[Badger]

12 "I's" and "Me's" in his victory lap over UBL's removal tells ya all ya need to know about "Duh Won"....

[taai gihk yahn]

12 "I's" and "Me's" in his victory lap over UBL's removal tells ya all ya need to know about "Duh Won"....
that he knows how to use pronouns?

really, get real - what should he do, refer to himself in the 3rd person? or not at all? do you think W, or any other president, would have said it any differently? and how about the mentions he gave to the people who actually did it? did you count that number as well?

look, he was outlining the decision making process; he was taking responsibility for making the decisions - if the operation had been a failure and US servicemen were killed and OB escaped, if he didn't refer to his roll, people would say he was trying to escape responsibility; now, when he gave the go-ahead for a successful mission, you accuse him of taking credit unduly?

why do you have to make a piszy argument about how many time he referred to himself? ridiculous

BTW, it's not about me loving Obama per se, but your ad hominem attack is just silly and petty;

[Reality_Check]

People like me? My ass. Look over my posts on the subject, which we all see you are good at doing. I openly said I wasn't sure either way.

And he released the long form to the public and the media in 2008? Really??? I, the press, and the rest of the nation must have missed that. :rolleyes:

No, he released his birth certificate. Just because it wasn't good enough for "birthers" doesn't make it any less valid.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/


FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.


It has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the Constitution and the rule of law.


Please explain how the Constitution is irrelevant when it says the President must be a natural born citizen, and we are discussing whether Obama was a natural born citizen? :confused:

You'll forgive my confusion...:rolleyes:

[GeneChing]

You people are so divisive. Half you fukcers are just contrarians.
Like you don't like being contrarian (great word, btw, but I got a better one). This is a kung fu forum. We're martial artists (or at least we claim to be). This forum is our coliseum of contrarianism. :cool:

[Drake]

12 "I's" and "Me's" in his victory lap over UBL's removal tells ya all ya need to know about "Duh Won"....

I see Limbaugh has your soul. Rush also FAILED in mentioning that he gave credit to everyone, GWB included. CONTEXT FAIL.

[Drake]

12 "I's" and "Me's" in his victory lap over UBL's removal tells ya all ya need to know about "Duh Won"....

Since you didn't actually hear the speech and would rather parrot a foolish shock jock, here.... let me break down your stupid post.

Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world, the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

I = 1
Credit taken - none

Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world, the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

I = 2
Credit Taken - Yes, because he DID direct him.

I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

I = 5
Credit taken - Yes, in making the decision to act. HIS responsibility.

Tonight, I called President Zardari
I = 6

These efforts weigh on me every time I, as commander in chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded.
I=7

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.
Me = 1

AND.... let's do ANOTHER count.
WE = About THIRTY times
Credit given to the military, the intelligence community, and those involved in the operation.

Read the speech before you spout off LIES.

[David Jamieson]

In the eyes of the hateful man, facts are not facts, reason is not reason and mind is not mind.

The internet just lets us see more of it.

[Hardwork108]

I doubt they would lie about this. If the guy shows up on tape with a current newspaper or some other timestamp, the jig is up. No way anyone would risk that imo.

The other scenario is that Bin Laden has been dead for years and that he has been "kept around" as a boggey man to fortifiy the fantasy we all know as the "Terrorist Threat".

http://www.prisonplanet.com/osama-bin-laden-has-been-dead-for-years.html

Now that he has been officially "killed", don't be surprised by "terrorist retaliations" that will ultimately result in more restrictions on your freedoms and further attacks on the US Constitution and resultant erosion of all that this fundamental document stands for.

[PHILBERT]

Without a body how do we really know Bin Laden was actually killed? if this is true where is the picture of his dead body?


Google image search for Bin Ladin's dead body. There are photos of it. He got shot in the eyes.

http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=548&q=Bin+Ladin+body&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g-msx1&aql=&oq=

NSFW Google search. I also shut filtering off just in case. Pictures of his dead body are there.

[PHILBERT]

He said Bush could've done this, but didnt. That's what I'm looking for, evidence of that. While Bush may well have said it wasn't his top priority, I don't believe for a second he ever had info as to where exactly the guy was and said, 'Dont worry about it, we don't want that guy.'

The Battle of Tora Bora in December 2001.

[hskwarrior]

that photo is clearly a fake.....

[Hardwork108]

Interestingly "Bin Laden" was shot in the eyes, making visual recognition of him difficult. I wonder if all the "terrorists" in that compound were shot in the eyes, or was this something exclusively reserved for "Bin Laden"? :rolleyes:

Those pictures are as good as the videos of "Bin Laden" that used to pop up during crucial times to give credence to the official version (mumbo jumbo) of the 9-11 events.....

[PHILBERT]

that photo is clearly a fake.....

look out behind you! Its bin laden!

[Hardwork108]

that photo is clearly a fake.....

Here is the final nail in the coffin of that photo:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/media-runs-fake-photo-to-illustrate-bin-laden-death-propaganda.html


And now we are told that Osama was "buried at SEA"......LOL!




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[goju]

If he gets four more years over this im immigrating to another country:eek:

[Hardwork108]

If he gets four more years over this im immigrating to another country:eek:

I suggest China or Brasil.;)

[Siu Lum Fighter]

originally posted by=goju
If he gets four more years over this im immigrating to another country
Funny, that's what I was saying before Bush was elected the second time.

I turned on FOX today in hopes of seeing them squirm and I couldn't believe how Hannity and Beck seemed to purposefully omit any mention of Obama and try to make it seem like it was the SEAL commanders who made all of the tough calls. Just in case all of the extremist anti-Obama dillholes didn't know, Obama was calling all the shots the whole time, every step of the way, down to the minute! He went against the advice to bomb the compound and had the SEAL's infiltrate instead. He even directed them to destroy the downed chopper before they left. It was just like in that movie "Patriot Games" when they watched an assault via satellite in infrared spectrum.

When did we ever see Bush with such a hands on role in anything? When he was dilly dallying in that 3rd grade classroom while the towers were smoldering? Any Republid0rks or Tea Bagger who keeps drumming on about Obama's supposed failures and illegitimacy at this point just can't stand it that we have such a highly intelligent and capable liberal (or pseudo-liberal) in office. Many of them can't stand that he's black either but if you tell them that they'll just fire back with, "well, you're a racist against white people!" Dumb asses:rolleyes:

[BJJ-Blue]

In the eyes of the hateful man, facts are not facts, reason is not reason and mind is not mind.

Like when you said the Federal Reserve was a private corporation?

[BJJ-Blue]

If he gets four more years over this im immigrating to another country:eek:

I bet it doesn't even give him a boost in his approval meetings.

This is great we got Bin Laden and the community organizer approved it. But that wont lower unemployment, or lower our national debt, or balance our budget, or lower our gas prices, or ward off the inflation that's starting to happen. Americans always 'vote with their pocketbooks', so he is in big trouble unless the economy turns around.

[BJJ-Blue]

The Battle of Tora Bora in December 2001.

"We don't know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001. Some intelligence sources said he was; others indicated he was in Pakistan at the time...Tora Bora was teeming with Taliban and Qaeda operatives ... but Mr. bin Laden was never within our grasp." -Gen. Tommy Franks, commander of US forces in Afghanistan at that time, quoted in October 2004

Try again.

[wenshu]

http://articles.cnn.com/2005-03-24/us/pentagon.binladen_1_tora-bora-bin-john-stufflebeem?_s=PM:US

Document suggests bin Laden escaped at Tora Bora
TORA BORA

March 24, 2005|From Mike Mount CNN


The U.S. has offered a $25 million bounty for Osama bin Laden.
A document from the U.S. military appears to contradict the Pentagon's previous statements that it does not know whether al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden escaped U.S. forces at Tora Bora in Afghanistan in December 2001.

The legal document, which summarizes evidence against a terror suspect in U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, states the prisoner "assisted in the escape of Usama Bin Laden from Tora Bora."

There is no date or time frame given.

Originally released after a Freedom of Information Act request by The Associated Press, the document is now on the Pentagon Web site. Who wrote it and what level of information that person had is unclear.

The document is dated December 14, 2004. It is part of what the U.S. military calls Combatant Status Review Boards, a process to determine whether a detainee is an enemy combatant and should continue to be held or if he should be released.

Pentagon officials would not discuss the information in the document and the numerous others released with it, saying the statements were generated from classified information.

Neither the prisoner's name or nationality was disclosed. In the document, he is said to be associated with al Qaeda and the Taliban, and is described as having had bodyguards at one point, indicating he may have been of some importance.

The document also says the detainee was a commander for bin Laden during the Afghan fight against the Soviet occupation in the 1980s, and at some point called for a jihad, or holy war, against the United States.

Other evidence cited against the detainee states the person organized at least one rocket attack against U.S. troops and supported others.

The December 2001 siege of Tora Bora, aimed at killing or capturing bin Laden, has been hotly debated. U.S. military commanders have repeatedly said they didn't know if bin Laden was in the region or if he got away.

At a Pentagon news conference during the 2001 manhunt, Rear Adm. John Stufflebeem told reporters: "I'm not sure how close we ever really have been. We have narrowed it down to an area. Indicators were there, and now indicators are not there. So maybe he still is here, maybe he was killed, or maybe he's left."

The matter surfaced again during the 2004 presidential campaign.

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry repeatedly asserted that President Bush let bin Laden escape by using Afghan forces instead of American troops against al Qaeda in Tora Bora.

In an October 2004 opinion article in The New York Times, Gen. Tommy Franks wrote, "We don't know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001. Some intelligence sources said he was; others indicated he was in Pakistan at the time."

Franks was the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan at the time.

"Tora Bora was teeming with Taliban and Qaeda operatives ... but Mr. bin Laden was never within our grasp," wrote Franks, who retired in 2003 and backed Bush in the election.

[David Jamieson]

Like when you said the Federal Reserve was a private corporation?

You are a fool.

[David Jamieson]

:rolleyes: Once again I wish we had a 'facepalm' icon.



Never heard it before now. Please provide a source on that, I'm curious if you're right or dead-wrong. I know what history shows in relation to you and the facts....

You are a fool, a shill and you are willfully ignorant.

You seem to think yourself wise and the rest of us dumb.

I would submit, it is exactly the other way round and as you go on and on, you make that reality quite firm.

Fool. :rolleyes:

[BJJ-Blue]

You are a fool.

I'm not the one who said the Federal Reserve was a private corporation.

And of course you've again resorted to name-calling.

[BJJ-Blue]

You are a fool, a shill and you are willfully ignorant.

You seem to think yourself wise and the rest of us dumb.

I would submit, it is exactly the other way round and as you go on and on, you make that reality quite firm.

Fool. :rolleyes:

Wow, 3 names in one post! Your debating skills are improving! Can you go for 4 next time?

I'm wise enough not to think the Federal Reserve is a private corporation. ;)