toe kick

[gabe911]

hi i joined this form because i had a question about certain types of kung fu kicks. i took kung fu only for a couple months i believe when i was a teenager and they taught me "toe-kicks." ive always wondered how are these kicks supposed to work? wont one hurt one's feet/toes by kicking with the the toes/top of the feet? also won't one hurt one's feet using crescent kicks?

thanks

[David Jamieson]

hi i joined this form because i had a question about certain types of kung fu kicks. i took kung fu only for a couple months i believe when i was a teenager and they taught me "toe-kicks." ive always wondered how are these kicks supposed to work? wont one hurt one's feet/toes by kicking with the the toes/top of the feet? also won't one hurt one's feet using crescent kicks?

thanks

using the foot in such a manner is pretty exclusive to nutsack kicks and face slapping kicks.

to take out joints you need to use a bit of shin for the cut. :)

[mooyingmantis]

hi i joined this form because i had a question about certain types of kung fu kicks. i took kung fu only for a couple months i believe when i was a teenager and they taught me "toe-kicks." ive always wondered how are these kicks supposed to work? wont one hurt one's feet/toes by kicking with the the toes/top of the feet? also won't one hurt one's feet using crescent kicks?

thanks

Toe kicks work well for those who practice in shoes, which many kung fu schools do.

[YouKnowWho]

"toe-kicks." ive always wondered how are these kicks supposed to work?
Quoted from someone's comment:

If you ever got in a fight for real on the street, always kick the attacker's front stepping leg. they always have to step a foot before they punch. so you stop that foot, and the punch can't get anywhere.

You can always switch your knee kick to belly kick and back and forth.

This is the result that you want to achieve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31h5gbazwU

[Lucas]

any real strike will hurt if you arent conditioned for it. the more you do it the more you will get conditioned and the less it will hurt. you can pull your toes back and hit with the ball of the foot if you are aiming at a hard surface. you can kick with the bottom of the foot or the side on a crescent kick. its like if you went and slapped a wall really hard right now it will hurt. do it every day for 5 years and it wont hurt anymore.

[hskwarrior]

why would you kick someones toe man? thats just wrong!

[Lucas]

hey u ever think maybe cuz they deserve it?!?!

[Northwind]

why would you kick someones toe man? thats just wrong!

lol
Actually on a side-note, I know a few folks that do like to step on opponent's toes while they're moving in; it's annoying as hell - but it works...til the opponent catches on of course :P

[David Jamieson]

lol
Actually on a side-note, I know a few folks that do like to step on opponent's toes while they're moving in; it's annoying as hell - but it works...til the opponent catches on of course :P


Yeesh Craig..You're revealing the dirty tricks !!!

I do this all the time and I don't care if they catch on or not, I step and press on the foot of my opponent whilst striking at him. It totally messes up whatever footwork they had in mind to get away.


Anyway, ninjas have been dispatched because of your indiscretion!! :p

[JamesC]

I do that a bit, but only if they say it is okay. I've seen people fall down with their foot trapped before and it ain't pretty.:eek:

As a side note, if you try that against a skilled judoka, they're likely to sweep you.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I always wore steel toed shoes when I bounced, still do everyday because of work environment.
I once kicked this big MofU with a toe kick in the inner thigh and I NEVER saw anyone so bog go down so fast.
Just saying.

[Grumblegeezer]

I do that a bit, but only if they say it is okay. I've seen people fall down with their foot trapped before and it ain't pretty.:eek:

As a side note, if you try that against a skilled judoka, they're likely to sweep you.

Stepping in close and pinning your opponent's foot with your lead leg is a standard technique at our school. Since we maintain a back-weighted stance, our lead leg is less vulnerable to sweeps... instead the leg should be very light and alive and ready to move from foot-trap to an attack.

Now as far as kicking with a toe... we had one guy who came to practice wearing cowboy boots...

[hskwarrior]

I want all of my Female warriors to wear shoes like this during TOE KICKING .....
http://www.pascol.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/pointed-shoes.jpg

unless its......

http://www.islandmix.com/backchat/attachments/f6/56174d1231705920-nsfw-camel-toe-alert-untitled.jpg

[YouKnowWho]

if you try that against a skilled judoka, they're likely to sweep you.
Agree! A judoka will always try to reach to your leg, now you just give your leg to him for free. When you try to step on your opponent's foot, you have to put your weight on your heel. That commitment may give your opponent a chance to sweep.

[hskwarrior]

We wouldn't just step on someone's foot without a follow up technique. some people back up when when you charge in. Step on his foot to stop him from retreating and attack.

[Lucas]

steel toed boots are weapons for sure. big reason why a majority of street kids you meet will be wearing them.

[hskwarrior]

When i first moved into a school where the majority of the people were white, the Rockers (stoners) were the ones to wear the bell bottom jeans, dirty metallica shirts, and steel toe boots. Now those were dudes that wanted to hurt people hahaha

[sanjuro_ronin]

Lets not forget those Uechi-ryu guys that make a living off of toe kicks.
Sick ****s !

[JamesC]

Lets not forget those Uechi-ryu guys that make a living off of toe kicks.
Sick ****s !

Gah, that stuff makes me cringe every time I see it! :eek:

Seriously, you've got to have some big balls to even want to train that.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Gah, that stuff makes me cringe every time I see it! :eek:

Seriously, you've got to have some big balls to even want to train that.

I assume you've seen the clips on Youtube of Shinjo-sensei?

[JamesC]

Hmm, i'm not sure if I have or not.

I'll look it up when I get home. Homeland Security blocks youtube. :rolleyes:

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hmm, i'm not sure if I have or not.

I'll look it up when I get home. Homeland Security blocks youtube. :rolleyes:

You'll love it and cringe all at the same time :)

Shinjo Sensei uechi ryu breaking.

There are a few clips of him on it and he is quite the specimen.
He breaks board with toe kicks, with finger tips, with thumb joint, with wrist, breaks bats with shins and with forearms, etc.

[JamesC]

Wait, is it the dude they showed on Human Weapon?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Wait, is it the dude they showed on Human Weapon?

Could be, never saw that show.

[JamesC]

Yeah, it's him. I found a site I could watch it from.

Uggh. Tough as nails.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Yeah, it's him. I found a site I could watch it from.

Uggh. Tough as nails.

He is, a freak really and NOT typical even in uechi ryu.

[goju]

I used to do the conditioning with the the bat for the toe

after a while i said screw this and stopped lol:D

[JamesC]

I used to do the conditioning with the the bat for the toe

after a while i said screw this and stopped lol:D

Yeah, just wear some shoes, lol

[SanHeChuan]

i took kung fu only for a couple months i believe when i was a teenager and they taught me "toe-kicks." ive always wondered how are these kicks supposed to work? wont one hurt one's feet/toes by kicking with the the toes/top of the feet? also won't one hurt one's feet using crescent kicks?

Chou Jiao specializes in the Toe kick.

Ancient Chuo Jiao (3of4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IomX4gESIlM&feature=related)

You can see halfway through the video that they are really kicking with the ball of their foot.

As for Cresent kicks, you can kick with the heel...

[Lee Chiang Po]

Any kick that required me to condition the part of the foot that made impact was quickly tossed aside. I consider it to be less than favorable. The outside edge of the foot and the heel can take a lot of impact and not hurt. A toe kick would work ok if you didn't kick something bony or real hard. And of course unless you were fighting in a ring you would be wearing shoes of some sort.
When I was a kid, it was pretty common to glue a single edged razor blade into the front, outside edge of the shoe. You could glue it in deep enough that you had only 1/8 to 1/4 inch of blade exposed. That 1/8 inch could mean the difference in a charge of criminal assault and murder. If a gang approached you, and if they were standing or walking close together, you pretty much had a fight on your hands. But if they were keeping a distance between themselves, you were in for serious cutting. They didn't usually try to kill you, but would try to hamstring you with a foot sweep.