Rape prevention

[Razaunida]

Everything I have seen on rape self defense is garbage. The reason why it is garbage is that self defense instructors hang out in churches and watch Chuck Norris on the televangelist channels instead of talking to real gangsters.

They always say to hit the groin and the eyes...good one...dudes who have been fighting their whole lives never thought of that. They have to understand rape tactics before they can counter them.

Some OG cholos taught me how to pimp rich white girls and how to rape. I've never used these skills, but I learned them and now I teach them to my female students so they know what is really up. I don't teach techniques after that because if you really know how to rape easily you know how to stop it. Its not a knee to the balls or an eye gouge or punching him in the throat. That will only get you knocked out and passed around and left to brain hemorrhage in some park.

I will cover some rape myths first and then write some tips on how to realistically avoid it. Because pimping is a crime that is very hard to prove I if you mess up, you lose a girl. Rape on the other hand will land you in prison so fewer people mess around with it. Criminals already know this, and those who need it have no clue.

if you want I'll share the techniques and we can discuss how to counter them. They are mainly psychological techniques. No running or chasing or ripping off clothes. That is exciting in movies and gets people thinking of hunting, but its not how real gangsters get down.

[Razaunida]

step 1: Feminists are wrong. Rape is about sex and power, thinking it is only one is stupid. It is also about fun. Being assertive will not help, being weak will not help, be normal and blend and no one will see you. Also if you smell like shiit no one wants that. No one wants piojos on their huevos.

Step 2. Don't go drinking somewhere without a strong man if you don't want to have sex. Drunk girls on colleges are easy. If the party is over and you haven't gotten laid you roll through campus at four in the morning. You can find one and she's already wet, drunk and ashamed. One more scream when everyone on campus is shrieking all night goes unnoticed. Sad, but true. You walk alone and are weak, you are prey. Usually if you pretend you are on the way to a party you can get her in your car or she will walk with a group of guys for "safety".

Step 3. From a rapists perspective they want your back. Close is good, back is better. You can't knee or scratch from there or see the face. Clap the ears of a donkey punch a t-shirt over her head and choke her out. Most of the time you can get a girl to remove her own pants in exchange for air. He has no reason to take off his pants first. The trick is to break her down to where she is compliant out of fear. It it gets to be more trouble than the money for a hooker its not worth it.

Step 4. You can tell when a girl is a runaway who can't go back. She is used to getting raped and one more doesn't matter. You find the mark when they don't have real confidence and have lots of real fear. If there are a bunch of dangerous guy around you can claim one and she'll go with you to avoid the others, just keep this game going until the train is run.

Step 5. Rule of 45. Approach at a forty five degree angle and you can get very very close. Come from any other and they fear too much. Hit them in the solar plexus and drag them to a van, another an ear clap the will is gone.

Step 6. Watch your clothes. Wearing the wrong colors, acting ganster or dressing like a **** will get you raped much faster. No one comes to the air of a girl who looks like a ****. They can tell that a girl who is dressed nicely doesn't want to be having sex in an alley, but they can't tell if they think that this is normal for the girl. This targets you and makes bystanders not care.


Yes bad things happen to anyone, but if you look at criminal mentality you can make if much less likely to happen to you orsomeone you love. Actually this works for any mark. Same rules apply to avoid getting robbed.

[Razaunida]

Sweat pants....drop them and trip her forward onto her belly by lifting up, give her some force down and she will most likely hurt her hand on the way down or get KO'd. Then you can drop her chones and have at it. Broken hands can't claw. If she wants to yell, choke out.

How to avoid? Wear a belt, learn to fall and don't let dudes walk behind you.

[Razaunida]

do you practice blocking? What are you blocking a fist or an attack?

The difference in mentality is why fat dudes who are not streetwise claim to teach self defenese

[Razaunida]

When it comes to the darker side of violence you are afraid. Bath in it, immerse yourself in the river styx and you will be invincible in combat. Isn't that in your Italian/Greek story?

Do you think that singing in the Sun and swinging your arms around will teach you what it means to be a warrior?

[Razaunida]

I checked baidu and the Chinese forums say that Salvaterra was not the real inheritor, but he was used for his marketing skills to get Sifu Jew more money. They claim the real disciple is in HK right now. They have a big school there tied to the triads and even have their own vans to help "students" commute. Can you read Chinese? I suggest you learn, there may be a lot you are missing out on.

This explains why you are uncomfortable with violence.

[Razaunida]

I see now why you think I am elitist. I thought you were better than this because you are a Sifu. Then I saw that you are not and wondered why. I checked the history from the Chinese point of view and it is suddenly obvious.

[SPJ]

most of rapes are date rapes.

1. never date alone, double or triple date.

2. use cell phone to call 911

3. let friends know where you are.

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fist fight may not be a solution.

use weapon, pepper spray, biting---


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assault charge is another big area

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:eek:

[sanjuro_ronin]

This thread and post number #2 in particular, are inexcusable.

[SPJ]

Everything I have seen on rape self defense is garbage.

I only read this and stopped.

:D

[Razaunida]

This thread and post number #2 in particular, are inexcusable.

It isn't pleasant, but it is necessary to know your enemy and teach realistic rape prevention.

[Razaunida]

The highest level of rape and theft is done completely legally through implied thread and intimidation.

A homie will get more cred if he does it in front of a crowd or an authority figure like a policeman.

using body language he will demand that someone lets him hold something for a bit. Or "You want to do X" The threat is implied in the body language, which is nearly impossible to prove in court. If you are skilled with movements other people might not pick it up, but the mark will feel scared into compliance.

I suggest you look at NLP and really understand body language and the primatology. Criminals read this and have lots of time to practice. I knew thugs that read behavioral psycology to better pimp girls form nice families and eventually the whole family would feel obligated to give him gifts. Dad would try to feel that he was still in control and make a show of it by gifting cars, trips etc even though he was scared for his life. Entire families can be played.

[sanjuro_ronin]

It isn't pleasant, but it is necessary to know your enemy and teach realistic rape prevention.

And yet so many are able to teach rape prevention and NOT lower themselves to the level of a rapist.
Amazing.
Don't try to excuse your post, it has no excuse.
Some of us have actually taught and been exposed to women that have been raped, your post and what seems to be behind it, is inexcusable.

[Razaunida]

What is gangland? I don't have a TV since I can get movies from Chinese youtube.

[Razaunida]

oh you have taught them without understanding a rapists mentality? Know your self and know the opponent and you win.

You are teaching neither.

[Razaunida]

You guys are so soft.

These are things every cop knows.

The real easy techniques I won't say because it could give a coward the courage to actually do something.

Everything I have mentioned so far is brutish and easy, but requires a group and has a high chance of getting an offender caught.

The real devious stuff I don't need to say, but if you understand the overall predatory mentality, they don't get the chance to use those techniques.

Just like fighitng its not about techniques its about mentality and fear.

Teach this in your self defense classes and lay off the choke defense or wrist joint lock. My hope is that you will teach something useful for a change.


I am not a rapist, I have always been a gentlemen. When you grow up in a messed up place you understand the value of peace and stability. You suburban guys need adventure.....so do rich white girls and they get more than they should. Just sayin...be wise.

[Razaunida]

I think most of you guys should be charged with fraud for teaching women's self defense they way that you do. I have seen women walk in dangerous areas alone and I tell them they shouldn't and they proudly say that they know "self defense"

way to go guys (clapping)

[Razaunida]

how are you a Sifu, but don't understand basic yin yang theory?

Know your enemy? Ever read Sunzi?

[sanjuro_ronin]

oh you have taught them without understanding a rapists mentality? Know your self and know the opponent and you win.

You are teaching neither.

You have NO IDEA of what you are talking about and that makes you stupid AND dangerous and if it was in my hands, you'd be history.

Period.

[Razaunida]

ok...sorry for telling the truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCnIw7ZE2Q Here you go.


The low block is devastating to an attacker.

[sanjuro_ronin]

ok...sorry for telling the truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeCnIw7ZE2Q Here you go.

The FACT that you don't get that its NOT about telling the TRUTH makes you either mentally challenged or makes you a troll or makes you both.

[Iron_Eagle_76]

i was waiting for you to step up on this one,especially after that one thread some time back.

I remember that thread, similiar material was discussed. As for Mr. Razi******* here, you are one demented, sick, f**ck, and I would be the first to point and laugh if someone shoved a cactus up your rectum!!

[Razaunida]

I get that people who are brought up in comfort can stand the idea of violence even when they pretend to be experts in martial arts.

I get that they have no problem with their country committing all sort of violence for there material comfort, but then can't view that as part of themselves.

That is an insane disconnect. One that blinds you to reality.

[lkfmdc]

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1165481451l/4865.jpg

[Razaunida]

looks like a good book. How much?

[IronWeasel]

You guys are so soft.

These are things every cop knows..



Lol!! Ergo...every cop is a rapist. :rolleyes:

[faxiapreta]

I think most of you guys should be charged with fraud for teaching women's self defense they way that you do. I have seen women walk in dangerous areas alone and I tell them they shouldn't and they proudly say that they know "self defense"

way to go guys (clapping)

The best women's self-defense is CCW.

[Razaunida]

I just presented the information in a very tamed down way, but because the topic was about actual violence and not make believe mystical larping everyone gets scared and takes offense.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I get that people who are brought up in comfort can stand the idea of violence even when they pretend to be experts in martial arts.

I get that they have no problem with their country committing all sort of violence for there material comfort, but then can't view that as part of themselves.

That is an insane disconnect. One that blinds you to reality.

Again, you have NO CLUE.
Allow me to make this clear to you:
I am a MA, have been in MA since 1978.
Since that time I have served in the military and seen action in Bosnia as a peackeeper and saw **** that would make you crap your pants.
I have bounced for a few years in night clubs and strip clubs over Toronto and I have been shot at, stabbed at, attacked by bikers, tried to be runned over and assorted shirt that would make your ass crawl.
I have seen violence on a level that you may never understand and I HOPE you never do.
I have seen first hand the effects of rape, real rape and of long term sexual abuse.
Things that you have no idea of.

Let me put it to you this way:
I can tell and show you 100 different ways to kill someone AND get away with it, but you don't see me posting about it, do you?
Nor will you see me bragging about the "reality" of thr world, even though MY reality has been far more real that you can imagine.

You know why I KNOW you haven't experienced it?
Just like everyone else that HAS knows you haven't.

[Iron_Eagle_76]

The only ones here who show and wear their fear on their sleeves like the bi**tch a**ss puss***es they are are insignicant little trolls who hide behind a computer handle and spout pure hatred and vile that otherwise they would never do face to face with anyone because of the known consequences.

It must really suck to have a life so filled with unhappiness that you have to get on here and do that.

So to quote the great Jack Nicholson, "Go sell crazy somewhere else, we're all stocked up here.";)

[Razaunida]

okay, I see you guys can't even take hypothetical violence. Back to lineage topics perhaps?

[TenTigers]

I am not a rapist, I have always been a gentlemen. When you grow up in a messed up place you understand the value of peace and stability. You suburban guys need adventure.....so do rich white girls and they get more than they should. Just sayin...be wise.

methinks he has an issue towards people who he feels inadequate to-especially women.
as far as rapists go-voted most likely to.

[wenshu]

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6954/lebowski29093mx7.gif

[Lucas]

portions of your post(s) read very much so as tho speaking from personal experience. it is pretty confusing. you say you merely observed these behavioral patterns? if so, to be able to draw definitive conclusions like these (and not merely hyphothsis based on in depth phycological studies done on apprehded rapists) then you were at the very least accompliced in these rapings you are so informed upon, or were indeed involved at the forefront. or is it that you simply hang out with serial rapists and ask them tips on how to rape better?

im actually curious how you know so much about these rape techniques? i grew up on the streets and i dont know this **** in such great in depth detail... cuz i didnt rape or hang out with rapists.....

[bawang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWo7_RHdb_Q

[Lucas]

Sonny Chiba on Rape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBPduMCUMFU)
this is how you handle bidnizz

[Razaunida]

This isn't about me being evil. Its about all of us understanding the reality of violence and how violent people think. It brings up some negative things in all of us...so does combat training. Knowing violence is how we stop violence. This is the character of wu 武。 It means to stop the spear.

[Lucas]

i think what some people have a problem with is the manner in which you are presenting your information. you could get the same info across to the board in a better manner. some of the wording you are using is not neccessary and is obviously put in place to instigate confrontation, not striclty education or information sharing.

[Razaunida]

Lucas, I appreciate what you are saying, but this is exactly why it lacks realism.

As I said before there are some very cruel tricks that are used which I won't share because driving home the mentality is what is the most important.


Rape is not a problem caused by bad men, it is one that is allowed by good men. When good men fail to see their own dark side and use it, it allows bad men to do as they please.



when two forces meet, the one that knows how to be yin will prevail- Lao zi.

[Dragonzbane76]

i think what some people have a problem with is the manner in which you are presenting your information. you could get the same info across to the board in a better manner. some of the wording you are using is not neccessary and is obviously put in place to instigate confrontation, not striclty education or information sharing.

hammer meet nail, nail meet hammer. ;)

[brothernumber9]

Razaunida,
Do you even realize you spent the first three posts on this thread ALL about how to stalk and rape a female and ZERO on how to prevent it? Then you get bitter when the rest of the forum points out how creepy it comes accross.

A fair chunk of posters on these forums have been on here since pre 2000 (I think it's around that time that the forum switched from KFO to KFM). There is a pretty expansive range of experience of CMA practitioners on here, not to mention the segment that has crossed from CMA to MMA and other MA and may still do some or all (or one depending on how they define thier KF). In my opinion there is likely some fair guidance of rape prevention that can be found amongst these guys/gals.

Your posts come accross as if you were trying to teach everyone 7h3 r34l d34dly about things. One would assume your intentions to be positive and constructive, but unfortunately your posts don't tend to read that way.
You've been posting on these forums since this month. You might want to present something about yourself that would warrant readers to pay attention to things you suggest about MA and "reality of violence" as you put it before asserting such suggestions (or at least suggestions that I assume would have been forthcoming after the descriptions of how to stalk and rape someone.)

[Razaunida]

I never set out to hang out with those people, but when you are Mexican living in the Mexican part of town you make friends with people so they don't prey on you.

Life is like that, you subscribe to certain tribal groups for safety. The USA is a huge and powerful mafia I am proud to be apart of.

How did I know this and not do it? I have eyes. I have ears. I have heard thugs talking, I've seen things I pray that you never have to.

Experience is expensive. It can cost a person everything.

What can I know that specialists don't know? Everything. Specialists think like scientists, they don't think like thugs. They only catch the ones who do the low level techniques. There are criminals who never get caught and die rich and old. You never hear about them. Law enforcement doesn't either. They only get the pawns.

All I have said was Pawn level stuff.


How many people here practice techniques for killing and maiming? Are you murderers? Do you really want to break necks? Are you horrible violent people?

No

[Razaunida]

a guy tries to shoot in on you...what do you do?

This is a common forum topic. Who shoots in on you on the street? Not many people.

How many women get raped...1 in 4. Get the reality of the situation, feel the fear and come up with a solution.

I didn't invent rape, I have never raped anyone and personally I don't want to work hard to have bad sex. I am married, I can have bad sex regularly.

I discussed known techniques used by bad guys. This is scary. I don't blame people for being scared and projecting this hostility at me. Its normal. Look beyond that and see what is scaring you....its the lack of preparedness for this kind of violence.

Technique is useless without that.

[bawang]

this song is dedicated to you frank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbBTkINk5n4

i dedicate it to the hong men

[Razaunida]

Just by the way you are trying to SELL it on us, its crystal clear you don't know any thugs, gangsters, or even anyone affiliated with any.

to the last part of your question....yes i would try and break your neck if you tried to attack me on the streets. a person on the streets know that there is always the possibilities that you may kill someone during a fight. YOU, are failing at trying to glamorize the idea of violence, rape and murder.

One of my good friends was senselessly murdered. For NOTHING at all. and you talk about violence like its something you pick up from a video game. WTF do you know about REAL violence?

You win + 5 street cred

+6 charisma

+80 magician.


Your friend wasn't senselessly murdered. He lacked sense and was murdered. My friends that were killed were in gangs, it was expected. Know what you are getting into if you have the sense. You are choosing to ignore reality and also lack sense. Maybe you will see your friend sooner than later.

[bawang]

My friend who was murdered was an EX gang member who turned his life around and was a counselor. YOU, are delusional in the strongest sense.

he swore a blood oath and violated it and received retribution. i feel no sympathy for him.

[Razaunida]

A lot of ghetto black people live in Oakland...I wouldn't go there.


But...if you think racism is always evil and that all mankind are equal brothers......that idea can get you shot.

[Razaunida]

I'm not ficking dumb. I'm an adult and I don't have to be in a barrio...why the hell would I go back?

[Razaunida]

i believe in upholding your oath, regardless if it is wrong or right. your friend pledged his life to a gang, then betrayed it, that was his choice.

This is Wude in its purest form. Loyalty to one's sworn brothers.

[Razaunida]

Frank you claim to be Hong Men, but you will meet the same fate if the real Hong Men catch wind of it and happen to be in SF.

You say gangsters are bad, but are proud of your gangster history.

Think they weren't good at rape and violence? They were. Proud history there.

[Lucas]

I am married, I can have bad sex regularly.



ouch! :eek:

[bawang]

frank, your youtube page is open for the entire world to see.





BROTHERHOOD!
hong men brothers give each other money frank. you are pis poor.

either
1) your entire lodge has betrayed its oath of financial support to its members
2) you are fat rich white guy
3) you are not in the hongmen

[bawang]

you post videos of other clf people and trick people into think its u and ur students

[JamesC]

I don't think he knows.

None of his posts make sense lately.

[bawang]

if you lose weight and get into shape you can be taken seriously as a martial art teacher. how the hell does it not make sense?

[goju]

not being fat and out of shape is not being elite. its being a martial artist. it means you have the discipline to train others.

The why did you post that video of that fat teacher slapping his student?:confused:

[bawang]

i dont show video to you because you are batsh1t insane


The why did you post that video of that fat teacher slapping his student?:confused:

because he is obviously manly and strong

[bawang]

you will never be part of the elite™


never


Bawang, whoever you are, do you really think i should care what one coward who hides behind an alias has to say about me? .
i told you already. my name steve. steve johnson.


broke, fat, whatever.....
i am glad you agree with me

[ittokaos]

So basically no one monitors anymore?

I could have sworn that this thread was about how to prevent a rape. Other than us learning what not to wear(my mom loves that show ;D) or to stay in groups what have we been taught? The way a perverted man may rape someone? Cool and all but where is the rape prevention. Are we gonna talk techniques? Perhaps some choice weapons? Are we to just assume that it's gonna happen regardless of what is done and that women really have no fighting chance?

As for HSK and Bawang: Why not continue your tiff through PMs considering that neither one of you are helping the thread? Unless of course your goals were to call each other names and talk about each other's moms.

[bawang]

this is a matter of honer. it does not consern you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD3QUGUZFQU&feature=channel_video_title

where is the honer

[Razaunida]

Dont make fun of him...his estrogen levels are high and it is near the full moon so it makes it easier for him to throw a hissy fit.

This is why he makes no sense. He is hysterical like a woman. His body is changing due to fat content.

[Lucas]

sammo hung is on his way to backflip crush you guys.

[Razaunida]

Sammo hung was tortured and beaten as a kid...that is why he is worth something.


He just had more food and can get whoores and womins even though he is fat. Chinese fat is success fat. It is not the same as apathy fat.

videogame porno fat can not compare with Sammo.

[GeneChing]

Imagine if they didn't find an effect. :rolleyes:


Women trained to resist sexual assault far less likely to be raped: study (http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/women-trained-to-resist-sexual-assault-far-less-likely-to-be-raped-study-1.2416122)
Josh Dehaas , CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:00PM EDT

Female university students who completed 12 hours of training on resisting sexual assaults experienced far fewer rapes and attempted rapes, according to a new Canadian study.

The study involved 893 female Canadian students who were either given the training -- known as the Enhanced Assess Acknowledge Act Sexual Assault Resistance Program (EAAA) -- or formed a control group where they were asked to read brochures.

One year later, those who took the EAAA had experienced 46 per cent fewer completed rapes (5.2 per cent versus 9.8 per cent) and 63 per cent fewer attempted rapes (3.4 per cent versus 9.3 per cent) than the control group.

Charlene Senn, a University of Windsor women’s studies professor and notable sexual assault expert, was the lead researcher in the study, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

"What this means in practical terms is that enrolling 22 women in the EAAA resistance program would prevent one additional rape from occurring,” Senn said.

Sarah Oszter, 24, took the program during the second year of her psychology and criminology degree at the University of Windsor, in order to get class credit.

“The greatest thing that I took away was the self-defence training,” she said, adding she learned physical methods to get a person off of her in the event of a sexual assault.

Oszter said she also learned how common sexual assault is on university campuses, and skills such as how to spot the body language of someone who may be in danger.

“Whether it’s a woman or a man,” she said, “I think somebody should always step in if somebody looks like they’re in danger.”

Oszter said she also learned while the resistance training focused on how women can prevent assault, rape is not the victim’s fault so men also need training.

The chance of a woman being assaulted during four years at university is estimated at between 20 and 25 per cent over a four-year period, according to the study.

The study involved students and researchers from the University of Guelph, the University of Calgary and the University of Windsor.

Here is a summary of the four units taught during EAAA, as outlined in the journal article:

Assess: This unit focused on improving women’s assessment of the risk of sexual assault by male acquaintances and developing problem-solving strategies to reduce perpetrator advantages.

Acknowledge: This unit assisted women in more quickly acknowledging the danger in situations that have turned coercive, explored ways to overcome emotional barriers to resisting the unwanted sex, and practiced resisting verbal coercion.

Act: This unit offered instruction about and practice of effective options for resistance, including two hours of self-defence training based on Wen-Do Women’s Self-Defence.

Sexuality and Relationships: This unit provided sexual information, including the slang and scientific terms for a wide range of possible sexual activities, safer-sex practices and strategies for sexual communication.