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BJJ-Blue
06-22-2011, 07:36 AM
"SACRAMENTO, California -- Sacramento police arrested a 29-year-old mother Tuesday after an investigation found her baby likely died from burns suffered in a microwave oven.

Ka Yang was being held without bail in Sacramento County Jail on suspicion of murder and assault resulting in the death of a child.

She was arrested three months after her otherwise healthy 6-week-old daughter, Mirabelle Thao-Lo, was found dead in the family home on March 17.

Police described the child as suffering "extensive thermal injuries." Officer Laura Peck said the arrest took so long because investigators had to pinpoint what they believe is the cause of death by looking for other cases involving similar injuries.

They found three in the U.S., all after children were burned in a microwave: in Dayton, Ohio; Galveston, Texas; and New Kent County, Virginia.

"This is rare. The injuries were obviously very unique," Peck said. "There have been only three other documented cases in the entire country where the injuries were consistent with this case. ... Those children were also burned and placed in the microwave."

She said police do not know a motive. She did not believe Yang had an attorney, and none was listed in jail records.

"We wouldn't assess her mental condition. That will be up to the court system," Peck said. "The bottom line is no one knows what happened in that house but her and the little baby."

Yang has three other children, all under age 7, who were removed from the home the day their sister was found dead. They are now living with relatives.

Last month, China Arnold, of Dayton, Ohio, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the 2005 microwave murder of her 28-day-old daughter, Paris Talley.

In 2008, Joshua Mauldin, of Galveston, Texas, was sentenced to 25 years in prison for severely burning his 2-month-old daughter in a microwave oven. The girl survived, but suffered second- and third-degree burns to her left ear, cheek, hand and shoulder. Part of her left ear had to be amputated, and she required several skin grafts.

In 2000, a Virginia woman was sentenced to five years in prison for killing her month-old son in a microwave oven. Elizabeth Renee Otte claimed she had no memory of putting her son in the microwave in 1999. Experts testified that Otte suffered from epilepsy and that her seizures were followed by blackouts."


Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/21/calif-mom-arrested-after-baby-dies-in-microwave/#ixzz1Q122DWI0

David Jamieson
06-22-2011, 10:25 AM
That's a shame.

It's hard to stay sane in this world.

JamesC
06-22-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't understand why you even posted it... Is Fox not getting enough hits on their own these days? I understand this is the off topic section, and I know that just because I don't want to hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Let me ask you something; When was the last time you posted a news story about something "good"? Not a story about tragedy, or political mumob jumbo?

I just don't see how stuff like this and the stupid **** that Palin says is more relevant than the community work the local church does for the homeless.

As a father, it just depresses me to hear these stories.

It's because of stories like this that I don't even pay attention to the news anymore. It's usually nothing but a bunch of doomsayers and parrots sqwuaking their political agendas.

BJJ-Blue
06-22-2011, 11:01 AM
I don't understand why you even posted it... Is Fox not getting enough hits on their own these days? I understand this is the off topic section, and I know that just because I don't want to hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I just thought it was an interesting, albeit disgusting and horrible, story. I posted the Fox link because CNN did not do an article on it as of the time I posted it. And fyi, Fox has higher ratings than CNN and MSNBC. They don't need help getting web hits.


Let me ask you something; When was the last time you posted a news story about something "good"? Not a story about tragedy, or political mumob jumbo?

June 10th. Less than 2 weeks ago. It's titled "Funny: Caller unhappy with theater's no texting policy leaves nasty voicemail". Here is the link:

http://kungfuqigong.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60788

Oddly enough, it got no replies. FYI, the political threads usually end up having multiple pages.


I just don't see how stuff like this and the stupid **** that Palin says is more relevant than the community work the local church does for the homeless.

So why are you griping about me talking politics when you just brought politics (Sarah Palin) into this discussion? :rolleyes:

JamesC
06-22-2011, 11:09 AM
I just thought it was an interesting, albeit disgusting and horrible, story. I posted the Fox link because CNN did not do an article on it as of the time I posted it. And fyi, Fox has higher ratings than CNN and MSNBC. They don't need help getting web hits.



June 10th. Less than 2 weeks ago. It's titled "Funny: Caller unhappy with theater's no texting policy leaves nasty voicemail". Here is the link:

http://kungfuqigong.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60788



So why are you griping about me talking politics when you just brought politics (Sarah Palin) into this discussion? :rolleyes:

Because I obviously wasn't "talking politics." I was referring to your threads.

Mostly I was just ranting. Stories like the one above are horrible, and the only reason they are used on networks like Fox is because they know people can't help but read about it when they see the link. It's unfortunate, really.

Anyway, pay no attention to me. Perhaps working in law enforcement is getting to me. This is the kind of crap I have to hear about all day, and it just sucks when I turn on the tv, or get online, and I see more of the same.

Seems like we're living in a "dying world." :(

David Jamieson
06-22-2011, 11:54 AM
Seems like we're living in a "dying world." :(

1. Be the change you want to see in the world.

2. Make your world what you want your world to be.

3. Somebody out there loves you very much.

:)

BJJ-Blue
06-22-2011, 12:06 PM
Seems like we're living in a "dying world." :(

I can believe that. Honestly, it feels alot like the the late 70s to me. And I've heard others make that comparison.

But keep your chin up. If the 2012 election goes like the 2010 one did, we are in for a great ride just like in the 1980s, minus the Cold War. Once the right policies are put into effect, the economy will rebound quickly and I bet you'll hear less stories like this one. And of course crime usually always drops during good economic times.

JamesC
06-22-2011, 12:08 PM
1. Be the change you want to see in the world.

2. Make your world what you want your world to be.

3. Somebody out there loves you very much.

:)

1. I wish. For me, stepping away from it all is the change that I would like to see from the world. By doing that, no one sees you doing it, lol.

2. That goes with number one. I've stepped away from mainstream media to the point that i'll no longer have internet after this month. I just don't like the fact that i'm expected to conform.

3. Truth.

JamesC
06-22-2011, 12:10 PM
I can believe that. Honestly, it feels alot like the the late 70s to me. And I've heard others make that comparison.

But keep your chin up. If the 2012 election goes like the 2010 one did, we are in for a great ride just like in the 1980s, minus the Cold War. Once the right policies are put into effect, the economy will rebound quickly and I bet you'll hear less stories like this one. And of course crime usually always drops during good economic times.

I sure hope so. It would be nice to see some change for the better.

I think I need a vacation, lol.

David Jamieson
06-22-2011, 12:26 PM
I think I need a vacation, lol.

I know for a fact that I do.
End of the month cant get here fast enough. :)

Lucas
06-22-2011, 12:31 PM
3. Somebody out there loves you very much.

:)

not true in all cases. ;)

wenshu
06-22-2011, 01:16 PM
Putting a baby in the microwave is just wrong.

The meat gets all tough and rubbery.


too soon?

JamesC
06-22-2011, 01:19 PM
Putting a baby in the microwave is just wrong.

The meat gets all tough and rubbery.


too soon?

Yes. And in poor taste.

wenshu
06-22-2011, 01:31 PM
Rosalie Prudent
(http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/1605/)Guy de Maupassant

There was a real mystery in this affair which neither the jury, nor the president, nor the public prosecutor himself could understand.

The girl Prudent (Rosalie), servant at the Varambots', of Nantes, having become enceinte without the knowledge of her masters, had, during the night, killed and buried her child in the garden.

It was the usual story of the infanticides committed by servant girls. But there was one inexplicable circumstance about this one. When the police searched the girl Prudent's room they discovered a complete infant's outfit, made by Rosalie herself, who had spent her nights for the last three months in cutting and sewing it. The grocer from whom she had bought her candles, out of her own wages, for this long piece of work had come to testify. It came out, moreover, that the sage-femme of the district, informed by Rosalie of her condition, had given her all necessary instructions and counsel in case the event should happen at a time when it might not be possible to get help. She had also procured a place at Poissy for the girl Prudent, who foresaw that her present employers would discharge her, for the Varambot couple did not trifle with morality.

There were present at the trial both the man and the woman, a middle- class pair from the provinces, living on their income. They were so exasperated against this girl, who had sullied their house, that they would have liked to see her guillotined on the spot without a trial. The spiteful depositions they made against her became accusations in their mouths.

The defendant, a large, handsome girl of Lower Normandy, well educated for her station in life, wept continuously and would not answer to anything.

The court and the spectators were forced to the opinion that she had committed this barbarous act in a moment of despair and madness, since there was every indication that she had expected to keep and bring up her child.

The president tried for the last time to make her speak, to get some confession, and, having urged her with much gentleness, he finally made her understand that all these men gathered here to pass judgment upon her were not anxious for her death and might even have pity on her.

Then she made up her mind to speak.

"Come, now, tell us, first, who is the father of this child?" he asked.

Until then she had obstinately refused to give his name.

But she replied suddenly, looking at her masters who had so cruelly calumniated her:

"It is Monsieur Joseph, Monsieur Varambot's nephew."

The couple started in their seats and cried with one voice--"That's not true! She lies! This is infamous!"

The president had them silenced and continued, "Go on, please, and tell us how it all happened."

Then she suddenly began to talk freely, relieving her pent-up heart, that poor, solitary, crushed heart--laying bare her sorrow, her whole sorrow, before those severe men whom she had until now taken for enemies and inflexible judges.

"Yes, it was Monsieur Joseph Varambot, when he came on leave last year."

"What does Mr. Joseph Varambot do?"

"He is a non-commissioned officer in the artillery, monsieur. Well, he stayed two months at the house, two months of the summer. I thought nothing about it when he began to look at me, and then flatter me, and make love to me all day long. And I let myself be taken in, monsieur. He kept saying to me that I was a handsome girl, that I was good company, that I just suited him--and I, I liked him well enough. What could I do? One listens to these things when one is alone--all alone--as I was. I am alone in the world, monsieur. I have no one to talk to--no one to tell my troubles to. I have no father, no mother, no brother, no sister, nobody. And when he began to talk to me it was as if I had a brother who had come back. And then he asked me to go with him to the river one evening, so that we might talk without disturbing any one. I went--I don't know--I don't know how it happened. He had his arm around me. Really I didn't want to--no--no--I could not--I felt like crying, the air was so soft--the moon was shining. No, I swear to you--I could not-- he did what he wanted. That went on three weeks, as long as he stayed. I could have followed him to the ends of the world. He went away. I did not know that I was enceinte. I did not know it until the month after--"

She began to cry so bitterly that they had to give her time to collect herself.

Then the president resumed with the tone of a priest at the confessional: "Come, now, go on."

She began to talk again: "When I realized my condition I went to see Madame Boudin, who is there to tell you, and I asked her how it would be, in case it should come if she were not there. Then I made the outfit, sewing night after night, every evening until one o'clock in the morning; and then I looked for another place, for I knew very well that I should be sent away, but I wanted to stay in the house until the very last, so as to save my pennies, for I have not got very much and I should need my money for the little one."

"Then you did not intend to kill him?"

"Oh, certainly not, monsieur!"

"Why did you kill him, then?"

"It happened this way. It came sooner than I expected. It came upon me in the kitchen, while I was doing the dishes. Monsieur and Madame Varambot were already asleep, so I went up, not without difficulty, dragging myself up by the banister, and I lay down on the bare floor. It lasted perhaps one hour, or two, or three; I don't know, I had such pain; and then I pushed him out with all my strength. I felt that he came out and I picked him up.

"Ah! but I was glad, I assure you! I did all that Madame Boudin told me to do. And then I laid him on my bed. And then such a pain griped me again that I thought I should die. If you knew what it meant, you there, you would not do so much of this. I fell on my knees, and then toppled over backward on the floor; and it griped me again, perhaps one hour, perhaps two. I lay there all alone--and then another one comes--another little one--two, yes, two, like this. I took him up as I did the first one, and then I put him on the bed, the two side by side. Is it possible, tell me, two children, and I who get only twenty francs a month? Say, is it possible? One, yes, that can be managed by going without things, but not two. That turned my head. What do I know about it? Had I any choice, tell me?

"What could I do? I felt as if my last hour had come. I put the pillow over them, without knowing why. I could not keep them both; and then I threw myself down, and I lay there, rolling over and over and crying until I saw the daylight come into the window. Both of them were quite dead under the pillow. Then I took them under my arms and went down the stairs out in the vegetable garden. I took the gardener's spade and I buried them under the earth, digging as deep a hole as I could, one here and the other one there, not together, so that they might not talk of their mother if these little dead bodies can talk. What do I know about it?

"And then, back in my bed, I felt so sick that I could not get up. They sent for the doctor and he understood it all. I'm telling you the truth, Your Honor. Do what you like with me; I'm ready."

Half of the jury were blowing their noses violently to keep from crying. The women in the courtroom were sobbing.

The president asked her:

"Where did you bury the other one?"

"The one that you have?" she asked.

"Why, this one--this one was in the artichokes."

"Oh, then the other one is among the strawberries, by the well."

And she began to sob so piteously that no one could hear her unmoved.

The girl Rosalie Prudent was acquitted.

wenshu
06-22-2011, 01:34 PM
Yes. And in poor taste.

There is such an easy joke there. . .

must. . .

not. . .

JamesC
06-22-2011, 01:36 PM
There is such an easy joke there. . .

must. . .

not. . .

I set myself up for that one I suppose...lol

Okay, THAT was kind of funny. :p

Lucas
06-22-2011, 06:46 PM
if we didnt laugh, we would cry