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Foiling Fist
06-22-2011, 09:18 PM
Externalist (machine/muscle-heads) cannot keep their arm stationary, without flexing the muscles; and explain it without using Qi.

Internalist use Qi for the 'Unbendable Arm'.
See: http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60755

Here is how to test:
1) muscle use will show the muscles enlarged with blood,
the arm-hand will be rigid and/or spring back reactively.
2) when using Qi, the arm will have a little flexibility, but not much: like rattan.
3) the tissue response from being pressed down is more resilient,
than when limp yet has more give than when contracted muscularly.

If it were just the joints locking, without muscle tension, no explanation is given as to how this done consciously. Even if this were to be explained, it does not explain why the muscle tissue is neither limp nor flexed.

faxiapreta
06-22-2011, 09:26 PM
Externalist (machine/muscle-heads) cannot keep their arm stationary, without flexing the muscles; and explain it without using Qi.

Internalist use Qi for the 'Unbendable Arm'.
See: http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60755

Here is how to test:
1) muscle use will show the muscles enlarged with blood,
the arm-hand will be rigid and/or spring back reactively.
2) when using Qi, the arm will have a little flexibility, but not much: like rattan.
3) the tissue response from being pressed down is more resilient,
than when limp yet has more give than when contracted muscularly.

If it were just the joints locking, without muscle tension, no explanation is given as to how this done consciously. Even if this were to be explained, it does not explain why the muscle tissue is neither limp nor flexed.

You're joking right? People are really stupid enough to believe this, right?

Scott R. Brown
06-23-2011, 03:41 AM
Externalist (machine/muscle-heads) cannot keep their arm stationary, without flexing the muscles; and explain it without using Qi.

Yes they can!:eek:


Internalist use Qi for the 'Unbendable Arm'.

No they don't! :o


If it were just the joints locking, without muscle tension, no explanation is given as to how this done consciously. Even if this were to be explained, it does not explain why the muscle tissue is neither limp nor flexed.

Neither does it prove it is Qi?

In your fractured way of thinking, if YOU cannot explain it and/or cannot find a mechanistic explanation for it, it MUST be Qi!!! :rolleyes:

The Unbendable Arm is a TRICK and anyone can learn it in minutes!:p

SimonM
06-23-2011, 08:10 AM
ROTFLMFAO!!!

First rate troll Foiling Fist. If this were 1995 I might believe you were serious.

Darthlawyer
06-23-2011, 08:40 AM
http://aikidoforbeginners.blogspot.com/2007/06/unbendable-arm.html

Remember this link you posted in your previous thread... it explains how it works from a simple bio-mechanical standpoint.

"The explanation of the unbendable arm is that it is not a feat of "energetics," but of mere physical strength, albeit proper use of strength. When the demonstrator first introduces unbendable arm, you are asked to "make a fist" and/or "use all of your muscle" to keep your arm from being bent. You do this by tightening the "big-bellied" muscles of the arm-the biceps specifically. When the demonstrator applies pressure to your arm, it bends because the muscles you have engaged are not the muscles needed to resist the pressure on your arm but are, in fact, the exact muscles that move your arm in the same direction as his pressure, i.e. the biceps bend the arm.
...

The method to keep someone from bending your arm in this exercise is correct and is most impressive, but the explanation of "life energy" (or any other explanation besides the use of the triceps) is wrong.

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