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EarthDragon
06-23-2011, 06:43 PM
For you school owners out there or generous students looking to give thier teacher something very special, you must check out eric hardgrove's hand carved sign boards.

The workmanship is awesome the love and passion he puts into his work eminates throught the whole sign, here is a pic of one he did for out school. he can be found on the forum by the way
Brings you back to the olden days of the tea houses and outdoor kwoon's in china check it out.....

notice the hand chisel marks in the background, makes it look and feel like its 100 years old, very cool detail

6267

bawang
06-23-2011, 07:39 PM
looks fake and gay

cardboard cutout

SPJ
06-23-2011, 07:48 PM
the writing style a bit too thick/fat for me

I learned or modeled after Yan Zheng Qing. his writing was fat/thick, too but not this thick.

my brother likes thinning writing almost bone like or bamboo stick like

well

each to his or her own.

:)

bawang
06-23-2011, 07:50 PM
he printed out chinese characters from the internet, put it on a cheap plywood then cut it out with a boxcutter.

SPJ
06-23-2011, 07:52 PM
oops

I thought it was his writing.

:D

bawang
06-23-2011, 07:53 PM
take a closer look at the edge of the characters. all rough and cut up

looks like a dam arts and crafts project from kindergarden

Minghequan
06-24-2011, 12:02 AM
Can I please ask how much you paid for that sign?

EarthDragon
06-24-2011, 06:21 AM
bawang, why must you be so disprectful? that sign is beautiful, it was hand carved from 1 solid piece of wood and took almost 2 months to do. And our school and my students really appreciate it. You shoudl learn to be a bit nicer when it comes to others feelings/


spj,
you can select what ever type of caligraphy you wish, I perferred the brush stroke sample. But he carvres it all by hand so any wrtiing can be doneMing,
the prices vary on color, style size and hours of workmanship so they range from 200- 500 depending on all the variables

here is another pic so you can see how big it is haging compared to the wall

6274

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 06:25 AM
bawang is just being a jerk.
It's his role here.

He's a troll. And he's our troll.
At least, he's the only relevant troll.

Occasionally barfs up a gem. lol

having said that, hand carved from a single piece?
That is great work! He did really well on that one.

bawang
06-24-2011, 06:26 AM
im being 100% serious. that hargrove guy spamming internet selling "pie bins" extremely annoying

he couldnt even pronouce your style, he called it bat bo tong long. why the hell did you pay him money for that garbage?

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 06:30 AM
im being 100% serious. that hargrove guy spamming internet selling "pie bins" extremely annoying

he couldnt even pronouce your style, he called it bat bo tong long. why the hell did you pay him money for that garbage?

Are you saying you can't read that sign for what it is?
and what's wrong with crappy romanization? People do it all the time.

we know what that garble phonetic is: "8 step preying mantis"

He does good work. Pretty good quality and the ideograms are correct.

You're just jelly because he does well at it and you have to beg for cheeto money.

Cdr.Instigator
06-24-2011, 06:40 AM
Earth Dragon, you should by now know how "bawang" talks to everyone around here. Almost everything that comes out of his mouth is Negative... pay no attention to his insults.

I know nothing about Chinese language characters. But, I got to tell you.... it looks very nice! I would have done it myself using a small table band saw ad sand paper and save the money to buy some more training weapons or the like..

Thanks for sharing..

bawang
06-24-2011, 06:58 AM
why cant you guys be more like david ross? he doesnt put cardboard posters and old magazine cutouts on his wall, he put gold medals.

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 07:02 AM
why cant you guys be more like david ross? he doesnt put cardboard posters and old magazine cutouts on his wall, he put gold medals.

Who is David Ross? Maybe he should try to post up something like that very nice sign board?!?!

bawang
06-24-2011, 07:06 AM
and what's wrong with crappy romanization? People do it all the time.


from now on i will use only my village dialect. he do baghbouv tungnung. and you practice ong chueen.

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 07:07 AM
why cant you guys be more like david ross? he doesnt put cardboard posters and old magazine cutouts on his wall, he put gold medals.

You mean this David Ross?
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/sifuross.html

This one right?
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/sanshou/davidsword3.jpg


:p

He's got a double life you know. That's why he is such a conundrum...

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 07:08 AM
from now on i will use only my village dialect. he do baghbouv tungnung. and you practice ong chueen.

excellent.

does your village always talk with it's mouth full? :p

bawang
06-24-2011, 07:10 AM
i dont know, but i think ong chueen is a ver powerful style. i really like the houvhag swungshin form and tiagsheen form.

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 07:36 AM
i dont know, but i think ong chueen is a ver powerful style. i really like the houvhag swungshin form and tiagsheen form.

Your village isn't a care centre for mentally handicapped people is it? lol

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 07:50 AM
im being 100% serious. that hargrove guy spamming internet selling "pie bins" extremely annoying



Bawang

Eric is actually a GOOD FRIEND of mine, and he made a board for me for my new school. He's a dedicated Ying Jow Pai person, a great human being and honestly in this case your trolling is NOT FUNNY

SPJ
06-24-2011, 08:02 AM
on the side note

1. 4 characters are the norm in chinese signboard

at the time of carving text on bamboo stick

4 characters are the norm

so ba bu tang lang is enough

quan actually limiting to fist methods

there are also many weapon methods

2 the placement of sign board is usually at the top of the gate/door or highest point in the building close to roof/ceiling

--

cool.

:)

SPJ
06-24-2011, 08:46 AM
in the old time, sign board is very serious matter

it is called flatboard on the forehead or bian er.

usually we beg or plead and pay for the great or good paint brush writer in town or of our time, such as yu you ren to write for us

we then select a good piece of wood

we then hire a professional carpenter to carve and paint

there are timing to do all the work

timing to place the board

positioning of the board on the forehead of the gate or hall

--

they are all serious matters

but

nah, nowadays just another sign or logo

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瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:17 AM
Anything Eric can get I will make for half price.

My cousin has a sign making store. He said he can make better signs at half price. He can cut out the sign or he has a machine that burns the image on wood.

Everything he does looks much better than this. America is a strong country with ugly signs.

Anyway half price, plus I can get it shipped from China to you in 10 days.

Eric Hargrove...go get a new job, you are taking jobs from Chinese.

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 09:23 AM
Eric Hargrove...go get a new job, you are taking jobs from Chinese.

can you make a video for us to prove you are really chinese? And, if you can't do it in the ring, its just your fantasy.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:24 AM
Eric Hargrove...go get a new job, you are taking jobs from Chinese.

You are an idiot

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:25 AM
can you make a video for us to prove you are really chinese?

and you are a bigger idiot :rolleyes:

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:28 AM
now wenshu gets all upset :p

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 09:42 AM
and you are a bigger idiot

Great! Thanks. We all have to be something right? At least I'm sure I'm in awesome company.

GeneChing
06-24-2011, 09:51 AM
looks fake and gay

cardboard cutout
Come on bawang, it's national pride week. Easy on the hate posts. It's not like you can evoke the The Shaolin Defense for hate crimes (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60962).



bawang is just being a jerk.
It's his role here.

He's a troll. And he's our troll.
At least, he's the only relevant troll.

Occasionally barfs up a gem. lol Funny, I thought most of the big posters here were just relevant trolls...:rolleyes:

Lucas
06-24-2011, 09:52 AM
I live under a bridge, so as you can see, i have no choice but to troll.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:55 AM
Funny, I thought most of the big posters here were just relevant trolls...:rolleyes:

some might think from time to time Gene even trolls

(or uses a clever alternate screen name, something with a bunch of nonsensical letters)

GeneChing
06-24-2011, 09:55 AM
Have we crossed this bridge already?

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:56 AM
Have we crossed this bridge already?

http://www.thecityreview.com/bridg2fr.gif

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 10:02 AM
Roll with the Troll :D Rollin Rollin Rollin....................

SPJ
06-24-2011, 10:19 AM
http://www.thecityreview.com/bridg2fr.gif

cool movie

all the big stars on the screen at the time

sean connelly and all

operation market garden

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:cool:

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 11:03 AM
sean connery or is his name really sean connelly :confused:

SPJ
06-24-2011, 11:13 AM
just in

columbo passed away

me luv episodes of doctors and lawyers being murderers.

:(

SPJ
06-24-2011, 11:14 AM
sean connery or is his name really sean connelly :confused:

dun know the rite spelling

but me like his 007 movies the most.

:)

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 11:15 AM
You are an idiot

You like paying double for half the quality? Who is the idiot?

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 11:21 AM
Who is the idiot?

YOU ARE

Thanks for asking.....

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 11:23 AM
David Ross wins at the internet.

He trained so long with a real Sifu and now he can win in the internet. Sifu must be so proud of his disciple....because you finally win at something.

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 11:26 AM
He trained so long with a real Sifu and now he can win in the internet. Sifu must be so proud of his disciple....because you finally win at something.

Awesome guy, congrats....:D

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 11:26 AM
No, clearly the "winner" is the guy who comes on and fakes being Chinese :rolleyes:

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 11:28 AM
No, clearly the "winner" is the guy who comes on and fakes being Chinese

OH, uh eh...you mean its not...uh...never mind. :o

wenshu
06-24-2011, 11:39 AM
now wenshu gets all upset :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdcBENN4NSU

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 11:40 AM
No, clearly the "winner" is the guy who comes on and fakes being Chinese :rolleyes:


You are a famous loser. You make fun of black taoists friend, but the only video anyone saw of you fighting was getting smashed in the face again and again and falling down like a failure.

You are an online bully and real like pessy.

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 11:55 AM
Come on bawang, it's national pride week. Easy on the hate posts. It's not like you can evoke the The Shaolin Defense for hate crimes (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60962).


Funny, I thought most of the big posters here were just relevant trolls...:rolleyes:

I see what you did there.... <.<

Lucas
06-24-2011, 11:56 AM
http://www.dominiquesskincare.com/images/knowledge-and-the-relevance-of-yoga-poses_oanag_0.jpg

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 11:57 AM
http://www.dominiquesskincare.com/images/knowledge-and-the-relevance-of-yoga-poses_oanag_0.jpg

1. here's a bowl of oatmeal and some pants

That'll be enough for now, because you don't want to overwhelm the dude.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 12:00 PM
No one wants to see gay porn.

Lucas
06-24-2011, 12:05 PM
No one wants to see gay porn.

So quit downloading and watching it all day.

Tyrant171
06-24-2011, 12:16 PM
It's a shame how almost every thread here seems to disintegrate into a series of personal attacks...

Anyway, I think the sign looks awesome. You should be very happy. :D

EarthDragon
06-24-2011, 12:23 PM
thanks tyrant, we are very happy with it, I just made the thread because I thought it would be a great gift idea for other schools, gives a hand made old school feel in a modern world.

I had no idea this thread could get hijacked like all the others..

Lucas
06-24-2011, 12:37 PM
thanks tyrant, we are very happy with it, I just made the thread because I thought it would be a great gift idea for other schools, gives a hand made old school feel in a modern world.

I had no idea this thread could get hijacked like all the others..

you must be one of those optimists that i hear about

David Jamieson
06-24-2011, 12:44 PM
you must be one of those optimists that i hear about

soon, he'll be a cynic...

Lucas
06-24-2011, 12:44 PM
soon, he'll be a cynic...

this place drove me to insanity, but thats ok, now im happy.

sanjuro_ronin
06-24-2011, 01:19 PM
thanks tyrant, we are very happy with it, I just made the thread because I thought it would be a great gift idea for other schools, gives a hand made old school feel in a modern world.

I had no idea this thread could get hijacked like all the others..

Sucker....
Some people will never learn, LOL !

Let me make it up to you:
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/HollowVoyd/diahblo.jpg

Snipsky
06-24-2011, 01:20 PM
NOW THOSE ARE NALGALITAS!!!!!!!!! Aye yai yai yai!!!!!!!

bawang
06-24-2011, 03:24 PM
Bawang

Eric is actually a GOOD FRIEND of mine, and he made a board for me for my new school. He's a dedicated Ying Jow Pai person, a great human being and honestly in this case your trolling is NOT FUNNY

i did not mean to offend you david ross, please accept my apologies, it will not happen again.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 03:49 PM
Ross defends those who do bad Chinese art and charge too much for it because he's like that too.

I read Huck Finn...the rednecks thought it was Shakespear, but actually is all made up.

Ross is like that. Everyone gets suckered until real teachers from China come..then he will get a job at a massage house and have to wear a fake yellow hair to get more customers.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 03:52 PM
For you school owners out there or generous students looking to give thier teacher something very special, you must check out eric hardgrove's hand carved sign boards.

The workmanship is awesome the love and passion he puts into his work eminates throught the whole sign, here is a pic of one he did for out school. he can be found on the forum by the way
Brings you back to the olden days of the tea houses and outdoor kwoon's in china check it out.....

notice the hand chisel marks in the background, makes it look and feel like its 100 years old, very cool detail

6267

8 steps mantis is a fake style made in USA. No real history...all of it is make up believe.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 03:53 PM
You are an online bully

you are a coward who is afraid to post his name and picture, as for "*****" you haven't had it since it had you and my guess is you've never even kissed a girl and if you really want to talk crap to me, you could come down and say hi, that wouldn't be online you know

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Why would I go to NY?

Only low lives live there and immigrants who don't know no better.

NY people are low class. After 9/11 most people are sad for America, but don't care about New York.

NY is nothing like the rest of the USA. Everybody hates NY...that is true. People there are selfish like Donald Trump and only eat greasy pizza. Losers live there.

You are a loser. I have told you my real name. It is Watson. You are Ross. No one knows me..thats okay...but everyone knows you and no one respects you because you are low class and your kung fu is bad.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 04:11 PM
Why would I go to NY?



you LIVE here :rolleyes:




Only low lives live there



well, YOU live here :rolleyes:

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 05:14 PM
I don't live in NY.

I used to live in Boston and took the bus in Chinatown to NY. NY is just okay. It has opera and some expensive restaurants. Basically you pay a lot and get a little. Then people are proud to live in NY, but it is really garbage.

The people are very low class. Even the ones with lots of money do nothing to care for others. NY is a place where selfish people who think they are important gather to make the world worse.

I was happy on 9/11...because it happened in NY. To people like you. Selfish and not real people.

Tyrant171
06-24-2011, 06:08 PM
I was happy on 9/11...because it happened in NY. To people like you. Selfish and not real people.

PLEASE tell me that's enough to ban this guy.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 06:16 PM
Actually, you could hear the cheers in China and around the world after 9/11. No one loves America when America is not looking. That is why Pakistan hid Bin Laden.

People die everyday around the world. Now hillbillies care about low life money stealers in NY.

If 9/11 happened in Kansas, I would cry...in Montana, California. .that would be a tragedy.

9/11 is when the NY bully got punched in the nose. Oh..no..the most selfish people on the planet with no heart got hurt.......good..that is karma.

This is my political opinion. I have not broken the agreed upon forum rules.

You may be a republican...your opinions kill more people than mine.

TenTigers
06-24-2011, 06:23 PM
yep..worse case of pizza envy I've ever seen.

YouKnowWho
06-24-2011, 06:34 PM
after 9/11.
After 9/11, my wife and I went to China, we brought back 8 daggers (the handler looks like a pagoda and it cost about 2 US dollars each) in our suitcase. When the Chinese police checked our bags before we took off, they took all the daggers out and tested the blade. One Chinese police reported to his boss, "They carry 8 daggers in their luggage". His boss asked, "where are they going?" The Chinese police said, "US". His boss then said, "Let them go, why should we care?"

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 06:42 PM
I believe that. Actually anything going out of China...China really don't care.

Tyrant171
06-24-2011, 07:14 PM
Actually, you could hear the cheers in China and around the world after 9/11. No one loves America when America is not looking. That is why Pakistan hid Bin Laden.

People die everyday around the world. Now hillbillies care about low life money stealers in NY.

If 9/11 happened in Kansas, I would cry...in Montana, California. .that would be a tragedy.

9/11 is when the NY bully got punched in the nose. Oh..no..the most selfish people on the planet with no heart got hurt.......good..that is karma.

This is my political opinion. I have not broken the agreed upon forum rules.

You may be a republican...your opinions kill more people than mine.

I have no idea what about my post delineated me as a Republican...but okay.

I'm very glad to hear that the people of Kansas, Montana and California have passed your morality test and are therefore worthy of life. You are certainly a humanitarian of the highest order.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 07:17 PM
I have no idea what about my post delineated me as a Republican...but okay.

I'm very glad to hear that the people of Kansas, Montana and California have passed your morality test and are therefore worthy of life. You are certainly a humanitarian of the highest order.


We all pick who dies based on who we like. Look at how quick the US bombs dark skinned people compared to other white.

Israel bombed a US ship, but we did nothing. If Sudan did this the entire place would be destroyed.

Israel passed America's morality test because holy bible was written by Jewishes.

Lucas
06-24-2011, 07:18 PM
lol im pretty sure the US woulda had no problem bombing the hell out of russia back in the day if we werent scared. your logic fails

Lucas
06-24-2011, 07:20 PM
i agree the US does some douchebaggery things, but im pretty sure the only thing we consider when bombing is the al mighty $$

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 07:26 PM
true, but USA didn't bomb russia. Reagan went into a cabin with Gorby for intense kissing....or talking...no one knows.

Lucas
06-24-2011, 07:28 PM
true, but USA didn't bomb russia. Reagan went into a cabin with Gorby for intense kissing....or talking...no one knows.

lol i vote for kissing

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 08:12 PM
Israel passed America's morality test because holy bible was written by Jewishes.

why to all the idiots spout anti-semitism :rolleyes:

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 08:16 PM
USA and Israel share some culture from Judah fairy tale...what is anti semitic?

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 08:17 PM
I'm a troll and a coward who hides behind mommy's keyboard so I can act tough



fixed that for you

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 08:37 PM
you win the internet again.

Now you feel okay about being a loser and a disgrace to your teacher.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 08:38 PM
dear coward and troll, please feel free to say it to my face, if not, I have two words for you and they are NOT "good luck" :rolleyes:

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 08:44 PM
I will not slum in NY. Come to the Bay Area. I can meet you in El Cerito or Oakland because it is low classes like you.

I can beat you up and donate your bottom to poor gays.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 08:53 PM
blah blah blah

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lezx3lbG8a1qdro83o1_500.jpg

Minghequan
06-24-2011, 08:53 PM
Again, I'd like to ask how much did the sign cost you?

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 08:55 PM
blah blah blah

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lezx3lbG8a1qdro83o1_500.jpg



You are low class, stupid and no one respects you.

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:06 PM
I am a low class troll, too stupid to find a good line and no one respects me

as a troll , you

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-07-09-epicfail.jpg

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:07 PM
I am not so good like you as internet because I waste time traiing martial arts

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:09 PM
I am not so good like you as internet because I waste time traiing martial arts

says the guy who posts on the forum an average of 25 times a day :rolleyes:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f51/savvyamigo/InternetToughGuy.gif

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:15 PM
Wait, I was wrong

33 posts a day!

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:17 PM
your posts are many

You say you are master

master of information superhighway

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:19 PM
your posts are many



I post 0.72 posts per day....

You post over 33

Only you can't figure that math out.... :rolleyes:

So, again, be a good little kid and go and run and play in the traffic

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:25 PM
Its true, people who post here are losers.


How many posts does Ross have? See...there is the proof!

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:26 PM
let's review

http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6275&stc=1&d=1308975328

you = ****ing loser

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:28 PM
Ross wins as biggest loser on an internet forum.


That makes up for being a failure in life. ;)

lkfmdc
06-24-2011, 09:31 PM
Do you know how you keep an idiot in suspense

ngokfei
06-24-2011, 09:32 PM
For those who liked it thanks.

for those who didn't thats okay too.

Cardboard? try Hard Pine.

These are handmade one of a kind. I do not use Computer Run routers.

anyhow thanks again.

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:33 PM
The more you post.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................................The more you lose.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..the more you post.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................the better you get............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......................................at being a loser.

TenTigers
06-24-2011, 09:36 PM
Again, I'd like to ask how much did the sign cost you?

ask Ngok Fei-his prices are very reasonable. I will have him do mine as well. He does really good work, and can do many different styles.
hey Ron., and please don't take offense at this-maybe it's my eyesight, or just because your picture/avatar is so small,(or just because I have a sick mind..) but it kinda looks like you're on your knees, begging. I'm sure it doesn't look like that close up, but...still

瓜娃子
06-24-2011, 09:50 PM
My cousin can get you half price

Minghequan
06-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Hey yeah your right, its the super baggy Kuzi (pants). I've changed both images!

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5886/28923455.jpg
Fang Qiniang Mao / Spear

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7277/aaaakl.jpg
母子手 Muzi Shou Mother & Son Hands on Mu ren zhuang 木人樁

How much did the signboard cost you? I am really interested to know as I am considering getting one made for my Wusu Guan. Awaiting your reply?

Minghequan
06-24-2011, 11:32 PM
Just another question, Is there such a thing as "Wude" here?

Lucas
06-24-2011, 11:45 PM
Just another question, Is there such a thing as "Wude" here?

Yes, in very small quantities.

Lucas
06-24-2011, 11:46 PM
Oh yes, in one post he said that the signs range from 200-500 depending on the variables of what the sign consists of. I think that is a fair price.

SPJ
06-25-2011, 06:13 AM
focus focus focus

there are many trees in the woods

but if you know the direction from position of sun in the day and stars at nite

or have GPS or compass, you do not get lost.

how the sailman sails at sea

etc etc

the thread is about signage

if you know how the authentic ones are done

that is all

:)

ngokfei
07-08-2011, 09:00 PM
a glimpse at the process

EarthDragon
07-09-2011, 06:51 AM
minghequan,
as I stated there are many variables that change the pricing, for example, if you have it made from one solid piece, border size and style, number of characters, type of paint ie gold leaf vs flat black etc etc.

I suggest you PM ngokfei and he can give you a exact price for what you woudl like done. the workmanship is incrediable