Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

[dragonfalls27]

guys anyone got info on any gung fu people in Kuala lumpur? personal exp would be great but any info is helpful i suppose.

that includes tai ji ... honestly and which im most interested in anyway

[TenTigers]

hook up with Eric Ling. He has done extensive research on Gung-Fu in Malaysia.

[Hardwork108]

guys anyone got info on any gung fu people in Kuala lumpur? personal exp would be great but any info is helpful i suppose.

that includes tai ji ... honestly and which im most interested in anyway

If you want the real thing, then I would search for the Kwoon that teaches the lineage of Five Ancestor Fist as taught by the late Great Grand Master Chee Kim Thong - declared a "Living National Treasure of the Peoples Republic of China".

It should be easier to locate his school(s?) once you are in Malaysia as unfortunately I do not currently have any more details.

[五祖拳]

If you want the real thing, then I would search for the Kwoon that teaches the lineage of Five Ancestor Fist as taught by the late Great Grand Master Chee Kim Thong

Yes, try and locate somebody teaching "Wuzuquan/Ngo Cho Kun" from the "Chee Kim Thong Pugilistic & Health Society". Their website with address and email in sidebar can be found here:

http://cheekimthongmalaysia.blogspot.com/

You won't be sorry.

If you need more help, get in contact and I will try and get more information for you.

[Hardwork108]

Yes, try and locate somebody teaching "Wuzuquan/Ngo Cho Kun" from the "Chee Kim Thong Pugilistic & Health Society". Their website with address and email in sidebar can be found here:

http://cheekimthongmalaysia.blogspot.com/

You won't be sorry.

If you need more help, get in contact and I will try and get more information for you.

Thank you for posting this link. :)

[LSWCTN1]

We have a good teacher in England for this style I believe, but one issue may be that nobody ever completed the style under Chee Kim Thong

[Hardwork108]

We have a good teacher in England for this style I believe, but one issue may be that nobody ever completed the style under Chee Kim Thong

Do you mean Sifu Yap Leong?

I believe that Chee Kim Thong's knowledge was so deep that the time span required to completly understand and master all aspects of his teachings was not available to most people, in a world where the general public have other responsibilities, such as work and family duties.

Of course, it is my understanding that the deeper aspects had everything to do with the INTERNALS!

However, I believe that the disciple that completed most of his teachings was one, Chan See Meng. There is a very interesting interview with him in English in the Kung fu Secrets Magazine issue that came out about years ago:

http://www.shaolinway.com/shaolinway/kfs3.htm

Personally speaking, I would rather study under one Chee Kim Thong's disciples, even if they had only completed most of the style, instead of a disciple from another lineage/style who had completed the whole of a given system.

The incredible thing about Great Grand Master Chee Kim Thong was the fact that he was also a master in other styles including Emperor Fist (Tai Cho)!

[Howard]

that includes tai ji ... honestly and which im most interested in anyway

There is Chen, Yang and Wu style in KL - which is your preference?

[五祖拳]

Thank you for posting this link. :)

No problem.


We have a good teacher in England for this style I believe, but one issue may be that nobody ever completed the style under Chee Kim Thong

I'm from England myself. There is also more than one good teacher in England, but I think you're referring to Han Shigong (Han Jin Yuan). It's also best not to speculate whether anybody ever completed or fully mastered a style - after all, who can complete or master any style? Kung fu is a lifelong learning process..

[dragonfalls27]

howard, im interested in the best teacher if you would know that, if not i would say chen style i suppose

any more info please let me know id love to practice tai chi here

[Northwind]

Eric is in Singapore, but has many connects there (it's not far away from KL).

Shi Gao Can/Cen (other spellings etc.), taught at a temple in my neck of the woods in Singapore years ago, but then traveled north into Malaysia. He hung for a bit in Penang, but he might still have some offshoots there as well.

Honestly, there's a LOT of good TCMA there...But outside of the McDojo stuff, often you have to kinda be introduced. If you have the chance, I would suggest to start in Singapore. Everything's a lil more expensive there (when I was there it was 2x) than in MY, but it's a great place to start any journey in the area; making connections, learning & hearing stories etc. Of course SG has its own good and bad too.

And SG, in general, is going to be slightly..."more comfortable" for someone starting out in that region. It's a great springboard.

Good luck!

[Hardwork108]

Eric is in Singapore, but has many connects there (it's not far away from KL).

Shi Gao Can/Cen (other spellings etc.), taught at a temple in my neck of the woods in Singapore years ago, but then traveled north into Malaysia. He hung for a bit in Penang, but he might still have some offshoots there as well.

Honestly, there's a LOT of good TCMA there...But outside of the McDojo stuff, often you have to kinda be introduced. If you have the chance, I would suggest to start in Singapore. Everything's a lil more expensive there (when I was there it was 2x) than in MY, but it's a great place to start any journey in the area; making connections, learning & hearing stories etc. Of course SG has its own good and bad too.

And SG, in general, is going to be slightly..."more comfortable" for someone starting out in that region. It's a great springboard.

Good luck!

Hello, a Singapore based kung fu brother of mine mentioned some years ago that most genuine kung fu schools on that island are closed door schools, specially as regards foreigners.

This was a while back and I don't know why but something tells me that he may have been referring to White Crane schools, but what he said could have been a reference to any genuine TCMA training.

May I ask if you experienced this during your time there?

[dragonfalls27]

well alot of the chinese associations here who do lion dance i know do gung fu, im just seeking info here from first hand experience anyone might have?

im also not exactly "new" to this area ive been here almost a year, ive been all over malaysia(and surrounding countries) besides borneo and ive been to singapore and will be returning in a couple weeks, ive no desire to live there as its boring and way to expensive and almost a clone copy of KL just not half as good food/entertainment/girls etc in short it sucks but... anyway

im curious about "howard" and his information on the tai chi here

[Howard]

im interested in the best teacher if you would know that, if not i would say chen style i suppose

sorry not sure of best teacher as that is very subjective.


im also not exactly "new" to this area ive been here almost a year, ive been all over malaysia(and surrounding countries) besides borneo and ive been to singapore

Then I guess you would know as examples the:
KL Chen Style Taijiquan Association
Malaysian Federation of Chen Style Taijiquan (http://www.malaysia-taiji.com/chen/aboutus.htm)
Most of the KL Chen style is from students of Zhu Tiancai ....thus should mention that in Singapore his son Zhu Xiangqian teaches there...

[dragonfalls27]

howard, thanks for the link, ill have a chinese friend of mine help me contact those guys

[Northwind]

May I ask if you experienced this during your time
there?

Hello and howdy HW.
Yup - it's not just Bai He. Chin Woo even gave me a ****ens of a time! I found only one BSL guy in the whole joint (not including styles of same name but completely different content).

Yeah in Singapore, MY & Thailand (referring only to tcma schools here - I know nothing really bout other than), the Chinese are usually still a bit in the 1910's and earlier...if you know what I mean.

Guy from America = $$$ and if not, then he is untruthful and shady and best to avoid because we know the truth of ppl in usa = millionaire regardless...
That is the thought process MOST of the time in SEA. It sux. But if and when and how you get into something - it's genuine. Maybe not great all the time, but at least genuine. There are a couple of ppl here on this board who knew me when I lived down there who can vouch.

[Hardwork108]

Hello and howdy HW.
Yup - it's not just Bai He. Chin Woo even gave me a ****ens of a time! I found only one BSL guy in the whole joint (not including styles of same name but completely different content).

Yeah in Singapore, MY & Thailand (referring only to tcma schools here - I know nothing really bout other than), the Chinese are usually still a bit in the 1910's and earlier...if you know what I mean.

Guy from America = $$$ and if not, then he is untruthful and shady and best to avoid because we know the truth of ppl in usa = millionaire regardless...
That is the thought process MOST of the time in SEA. It sux. But if and when and how you get into something - it's genuine. Maybe not great all the time, but at least genuine. There are a couple of ppl here on this board who knew me when I lived down there who can vouch.

Hey there Northwind,

Thank you for your reply and your perspective. I guess once you get throught the ¨smoke screen¨ and maze, you have a good chance of getting genuine tuition, so I guess one must appreciate the plus side. :)

Personally speaking, if I was not married, I would probably travel to the Far East to train for some years. My destination would more likely be Hong Kong because that is where the HQ of the Chow Gar school I am a member of is located, but I have heard about high quality kung fu schools in other styles, located in Singapore.

Thanks again. :)