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hskwarrior
08-30-2011, 07:35 AM
this is nice!
http://youtu.be/tV_B0OnRkxM

jdhowland
08-31-2011, 07:35 AM
this is nice!
http://youtu.be/tV_B0OnRkxM

Yes, that's the nicest one I've ever seen.

I've found that these are usefull for teaching basic skills and combinations but I have one problem with them: they tend to instill a false sense of timing with the strokes. Very good for accuracy and visualization but you have to wait for the plates and rotors to finish their arc for the next strike. This makes me wonder if the intent was only for practicing accuracy when no training partner is available. You can practice quicker reactions against a training partner with a weapon.

I now use only the vertical and horizontal rotors. With the horizontal you can practice cutting strokes such as got. It teaches the correct angle for contact to accelerate through the stroke instead of a percussive impact at the beginning (which tends to make your weapon rebound and be struck by the other end of the rotor). The grazing contact works better for disarms against the lead hand or to create an opening. A sharp percussion is better for attacking the wrist. The horizontal rotors are sometimes attached to the tops of ching johng.

I use vertical rotors for practicing spear which has to be withdrawn more quickly than the gwan. For thrusting accuracy I prefer to use small loops (one at throat level, one at solar plexus level).

hskwarrior
08-31-2011, 05:33 PM
yeah i like that dummy. since i don't have one like that, i do use my Ching Jong in a similar fashion during training. if that kid tightened up his movements a bit he'd have a nice rhythm going.

CLFNole
08-31-2011, 06:04 PM
I am not a big fan of how he holds the staff when doing single head staff techniques. I think he should be holding it more towards the end to maximize the reach/length of the weapon. No problem with holding it the way he does for double head staff though since he is using both ends.

kukulcan
03-21-2012, 10:00 AM
I have a welder and can use my Ching Jong building experience to easily fabricate this for about $500. I think they are asking a bit too much, but I understand they got to make a profit on their research :)