Elbow Stroke?

[TopCrusader]

Hello,
I have heard of a technique in Tai Chi (and other internal arts) called an Elbow Stroke. Is this just another way of saying elbow strike?
Lastly, does it refer to one specific motion or is it a general category of elbow techniques?

Thanks!

[YouKnowWho]

If your elbow strike comes from your "Dantian rotation", it's call elbow stroke.

An "internal" guy's elbow stroke at your heart can interrupt your blood supply to your brain which can cause you to have "stroke". You will be paralized for the rest of your life. Next time when an "internal" guy raises his elbow, you should run like hell. Never mess with any guy who trains "internal".

[taai gihk yahn]

If your elbow strike comes from your "Dantian rotation", it's call elbow stroke.
I thought u were stroking someone else's elbow, like, if u were in a bar, and this beautiful girl walks up next to you order a drink, u stroke her elbow; or, if u r into "performance art", you dip ur elbows into paint and use the "elbow stroke" to create an abstract expressionist Taoist piece;


An "internal" guy's elbow stroke at your heart can interrupt your blood supply to your brain which can cause you to have "stroke". You will be paralized for the rest of your life. Next time when an "internal" guy raises his elbow, you should run like hell. Never mess with any guy who trains "internal".
John, u shud know better than this: by the time he raises his elbow, it's too late; what u need to watch for is the tell-tale characteristics of an internal practitioner, while he's still at 100 paces: eyes half open, the slightest faintest smile just at the corners of the mouth, some sort of loose fitting outfit, a lot of suppressed rage coupled w egregious feelings of inadequacy, counterbalanced by a sense of smug superiority but weighed down by the burden of bearing great responsibility for possessing a set of deadly techniques that could never be used for real lest they kill someone and and seven generations of their family in both directions - when u see someone in this state, u had better get out of Dodge...

[taai gihk yahn]

Hello,
I have heard of a technique in Tai Chi (and other internal arts) called an Elbow Stroke. Is this just another way of saying elbow strike?
Lastly, does it refer to one specific motion or is it a general category of elbow techniques?

Thanks!

srsly, yeh, it's an elbow that you deliver by pulling the guy by the arm into it at the same time; it's not a big deal; but taiji people like to be abstruse...

[Scott R. Brown]

I thought u were stroking someone else's elbow, like, if u were in a bar, and this beautiful girl walks up next to you order a drink, u stroke her elbow; or, if u r into "performance art", you dip ur elbows into paint and use the "elbow stroke" to create an abstract expressionist Taoist piece;


John, u shud know better than this: by the time he raises his elbow, it's too late; what u need to watch for is the tell-tale characteristics of an internal practitioner, while he's still at 100 paces: eyes half open, the slightest faintest smile just at the corners of the mouth, some sort of loose fitting outfit, a lot of suppressed rage coupled w egregious feelings of inadequacy, counterbalanced by a sense of smug superiority but weighed down by the burden of bearing great responsibility for possessing a set of deadly techniques that could never be used for real lest they kill someone and and seven generations of their family in both directions - when u see someone in this state, u had better get out of Dodge...

Don't forget knees slightly bent, shoulders lowered (slumped) and his anus sucked up his a$$!

[TopCrusader]

srsly, yeh, it's an elbow that you deliver by pulling the guy by the arm into it at the same time; it's not a big deal; but taiji people like to be abstruse...

Im glad someone on here took my questions somewhat seriously! I swear some of the people on here that have 2000 posts, 75% of those posts are all bull****! lol! :p

[Eric Olson]

Elbow uses short energy.

Peng, Lu, Ji, An are long.

Cai, Zhou (elbow), Lie, Kao are short.

People think Taiji is all long energy. But the short energy stuff is really brutal. All knee, elbow, hip and grabs. Kind of like Ba Ji.

Here's the Canon fist where you can see it at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6I9gf-Clac

[Yoshiyahu]

1,2,3,4,5,


chain punch his face!

[TopCrusader]

Im going to resurrect my own thread!

Another question regarding "elbow stroke". Is that term somewhat exclusive to Tai Chi or other 'internal' arts or is the term "elbow stroke" used throughout Chinese martial arts to reference hitting with the elbow?

Thanks again

[YouKnowWho]

Many years ago I asked a question, "What's the difference between internal hip throw vs. external hip throw?" I still have not received any anwer yet.

When you associate "elbow" body function to "internal" or "external", It's just like to ask people what's the difference between "internal' keyboard typing vs. "external" keyboard typing. People just can't take it too serious. The elbow strike has nothing to do with "internal' or "external". You can strike your elbow:

- downward,
- upward,
- horizontal,
- straight forward,
- backward.

In TCMA, there is even an elbow form that has all the elbow techniques.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENNYpZeYY0c

[xinyidizi]

Many years ago I asked a question, "What's the difference between internal hip throw vs. external hip throw?" I still have not received any anwer yet.

When you associate "elbow" body function to "internal" or "external", It's just like to ask people what's the difference between "internal' keyboard typing vs. "external" keyboard typing. People just can't take it too serious. The elbow strike has nothing to do with "internal' or "external". You can strike your elbow:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENNYpZeYY0c

It's more like the difference of using office on a PC and on a Mac. The operating system is different but the program is almost identical.

[Martin2]

May be this article is of interest to this topic - Zhou - the Elbow Power:

http://taichi-philosophy.blogspot.de/2013/09/article-zhou-elbow-power.html

All the best

Martin

[SPJ]

Hello,
I have heard of a technique in Tai Chi (and other internal arts) called an Elbow Stroke. Is this just another way of saying elbow strike?
Lastly, does it refer to one specific motion or is it a general category of elbow techniques?

Thanks!

Zhou Fa elbow methods

The area around below joints plus forearm methods in Tai Ji and other CMA styles.

Cai Lie Zhou Kao

Zhou means more than elbow that is.

:cool:

[SPJ]

Zhou methods not only about strike

but also about neutralization of the opponent's power.

Hua Jin that is.

:cool:

[hskwarrior]

please don't stroke my elbow if you're a man. I only let da ladie's stroke my elbow!

[mawali]

Elbow strike/stroke is a multifaceted response so it isn't a "singular concept'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy3S3kDh0z0