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Yoshiyahu
10-22-2011, 12:08 PM
Would it be a good match up to cross train Wing Chun with


72 Chin Na techniques and Shuai jiao?


Would that make WC more of a jack of all trades?
jesper
10-23-2011, 02:17 AM
Would it be a good match up to cross train Wing Chun with


72 Chin Na techniques and Shuai jiao?


Would that make WC more of a jack of all trades?

no but it would make you a better alround fighter.
WC is WC and whatever you learn besides that are add ons to your personal skills, not WC
Yoshiyahu
10-23-2011, 08:26 AM
no but it would make you a better alround fighter.
WC is WC and whatever you learn besides that are add ons to your personal skills, not WC

How Could it be useful?
dirtyrat
10-23-2011, 10:48 AM
there are dozens of chin na techniques to choose from. same with shuaijiao.

you don't really need to learn them all. just choose a few that's in keeping with WC's principle. you may have to modify....
Lee Chiang Po
10-23-2011, 11:29 AM
I have been into Wing Chun for 56 years. I also have black belts in jiujitsu. I can do one or the other, but I do not attempt to mix them into a single fighting system as they have very different principals.
Ben Gash
10-23-2011, 11:29 AM
How Could it be useful?

Because you'll be able to grapple? :confused:
Vajramusti
10-23-2011, 11:46 AM
If you do enough wing chun you can do joint breaks, cavity attacks and throws seamlessly. IMO.
Ben Gash
10-23-2011, 11:58 AM
Unless you train at one of the large number of schools that dogmatically refuses to acknowledge that WC has Chin Na or Shuai Jiao :rolleyes:
mjw
10-23-2011, 12:05 PM
no but it would make you a better alround fighter.
WC is WC and whatever you learn besides that are add ons to your personal skills, not WC

Very well put IMO
YouKnowWho
10-23-2011, 01:18 PM
After you have integrated locking and throwing skill into your WC on your own body, if you never teach any students, that integrate effort will die with you when you leave this world. If you teach students, that integrate effort will be passed down. Whether your students in the future generation will call your integration effort as a "evolve" style or not, you will not be able to know it.

If you just teach your students exactly the same as your teacher taught you. You are a good "copy machine", no more and no less. You add nothing into the TCMA world. You pass throught this world and leave no trace. If you add something into your system and pass down, After you have long gone, people will remember you. You have contributate something to the TCMA world. You will be part of the TCMA history.
EternalSpring
10-24-2011, 12:34 AM
If you do enough wing chun you can do joint breaks, cavity attacks and throws seamlessly. IMO.

qft!
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Yoshiyahu
10-29-2011, 04:50 PM
Unless you train at one of the large number of schools that dogmatically refuses to acknowledge that WC has Chin Na or Shuai Jiao :rolleyes:


I think the movie

IP Man Three


is a good movie which battles with the ideology of Wing Chun using throws!