New students Kung Fu warm up

[Ray Pina]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIj0RzpVLdE


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[Lucas]

nice. how long has he been with you, are you his first trainer?

[Subitai]

Sheesh!! another video of 2 students doing meaningless kung fu drills.

Too much stance work

No contlact at all

I guess it's Kung fu...if you mean by that, you mean hard work.

Otherwise, a couple of pansies doing forms with gloves on.

Where do you get this stuff Ray? !!! :rolleyes:

[Ray Pina]

It's my 14 year-old neighbor. It's his fifth class. He took four classes and then had to take off to study for exams.

Today was his first day back but he got four As and two Bs and remembered what we've been working on so not so bad. Introduced him to the heavy bag and how to work the straight, cross, hook with footwork.

He's got potential and seems into it.

[Lucas]

you teaching him for free?

so i notice you title it new students 'kungfu warmup', im assuming you're working on him with your accumlated skillsets? you're going to need to get a matt!! ;)

[Ray Pina]

Sheesh!! another video of 2 students doing meaningless kung fu drills.

Too much stance work

No contlact at all

I guess it's Kung fu...if you mean by that, you mean hard work.

Otherwise, a couple of pansies doing forms with gloves on.

Where do you get this stuff Ray? !!! :rolleyes:

Don't worry. It was just the warm up..... we broke out the foam noodle right after the camera was put away. Then we spent 45 mins teaching him how to bow in Shaolin-like for his form. Certainly want to use the time productively. :)

[Ray Pina]

you teaching him for free?

so i notice you title it new students 'kungfu warmup', im assuming you're working on him with your accumlated skillsets? you're going to need to get a matt!! ;)

Yea. I'm teaching him for free. My shoulder's busted right now so I can't BJJ (seeing a specialist later this week) and it's nice to have someone to work on some stuff I want to work on.

He's never trained before and matts would be nice. The grass isn't bad. But there are fire ants in some patches and they're nasty.

[Lucas]

oh **** lol ya, fire ants suck, used to deal with those suckers in texas. i think its cool that you're teaching him for free, if he doesnt now, later he'll see the immense value in what you're doing for him. now THATS oldschool. i feel you on the shoulder though man, my RC is messed up right now...:(

[Ray Pina]

In my experience though, I've found it best to charge.... the first student I ever had missed a lot of class and I'd skip surfing or something and be ****ed about the no show. And then I realized he didn't value the training because there was no monetary value.... his folks pressured him a bit.

As soon as I charged $100 (I new the parents would pay) he didn't miss.

Later on though, he became one of my closest students. I was renting from his folks, some old hippie surfers.

[TenTigers]

if you really valued what your Sifus taught you, you would be working on more internal, and eight pieces of brocade, rather than that kickboxing stuff.



Holy Crap!:eek:
I just chanelled in HW108!!

[Lucas]

you see clf everywhere!!!

[hskwarrior]

you see clf everywhere!!!

thats because i completely understand my CLF bro. CLF is extremely versatile which is why i love it so much. but the part of him blocking the incoming punch and throwing his own punch at the same time we do that in our CLF as passed down within our lineage.

[hskwarrior]

Ray is that you and your student together? also, you was doin some CLF there and didn't even know it LOL

[Lucas]

That's Ray with all the hair. Cantcha tell? :p

[hskwarrior]

That's Ray with all the hair. Cantcha tell?

That Spicoli dude is ray? really?

[Eric Olson]

That Spicoli dude is ray? really?

LOL, Spicoli

[Ray Pina]

if you really valued what your Sifus taught you, you would be working on more internal, and eight pieces of brocade, rather than that kickboxing stuff.


The drill where we punch each other's punch (stupid punching) and when we punch each other's shield (tree trunk punching) was something we did every class with my master.

When we punch each other's punch and then go right to the chin, with back hand blocking, that was a drill I developed off principles I learned from my master.

[Iron_Eagle_76]

Ray, do you work in peek-a-boo style blocks along with the cross blocks in your vid? I have found the set up from a body shot to hook off the peek-a-boo block to be very effective.

[Ray Pina]

Ray, do you work in peek-a-boo style blocks along with the cross blocks in your vid? I have found the set up from a body shot to hook off the peek-a-boo block to be very effective.

I don't know enough about "peek-a-boo" in that I've never had anything I learned in boxing or TMA called that.

What I was taught and value from my teacher is the principle that the wrists/hands should occupy the Party Line (if you place a long pole on your shoulder and the opponents) which essentially covers the line between your neck and the others. Think of a 12 inch tube going from face to face.... that's a crucial space to occupy.

The hands never go side to side or wax on wax off. The hands go out to the others neck, the elbow takes care of outside or mid-level attacks. Most times you can counter attack right away and use the same arms elbow to deflect.

I also like one hand goes out, the other goes back-hand blocking/tuck the chin for insurance. The other hand can go out too, but then the other must transform to back-hand blocking for insurance.

I used to take a heavy lead (right or left) and still do. But now with an MMA influence I also like staying more square with the hands up for quicker level changes.... from time to time.

[Iron_Eagle_76]

Peek-a-boo is basically a stance with the hands up in front high that rolls to the sides and counters. Often times it can intercept a punch similiar to the drills you are using. It is used by many boxers but most famously by Mike Tyson, particuarly in his younger years with Cus D'Amato.

The cross style block you and your student use is a similar notion but the hands are turned upwards towards the head, this allows for fast and devasting hooks and shovel hooks.